what Garter is this

[lestat]

heres a photo290

[Snake lover 3-25]

looks like a ribbon to me......... :confused:

[adamanteus]

Pretty hard to tell from that pic, but I would say it's a parietalis with no red. Where did you get it?

[adamanteus]

looks like a ribbon to me......... :confused:

Yeah, could be a Ribbon too. Can you get a head/face picture?

[Elliot]

The top looks like a ribbon, but the bottom of it doesn't. Could we have a picture of the head/face and the side of the body.

[adamanteus]

The top looks like a ribbon, but the bottom of it doesn't. Could we have a picture of the head/face and the side of the body.

Bottom? Where do you see the bottom?:confused:

[Elliot]

Well farther down the sides. The bottom stripe doesn't look right.

[adamanteus]

I see what you mean. I still think it's parietalis.

[ssssnakeluvr]

don't think it's a ribbon...doesn't have the white spot in front of the eyes...I am saying either eastern or parietalis with no red...

[lestat]

I will try very hard to get better photos. I dont understand it. It was taken by an SLR camera. I wouldnt say i was very good but i think i am average at taking photos but both my camers have struggled to take good shots of my snakes.
1. Is it because the snakes are moving allways.
2. Is it because of camera shake,(as i am trying to watch they dont get out while taking the shots)
3. Is it because of the lighting.

As for where i got the snake. I got it from a shop near Abingdon and they told me it was a common/striped garter. It was eating pinkies they told me but has not eaton one since i got it home and has only eaten worms so far. I thought he might like some company and put Lois in with him. I am hoping he starts eating pinkies and fish soon.

[Zephyr]

I'm going to say either T. s. sirtalis or T. s. parietalis sans red.
Also, is that tinge of brown on the upper left of the snake scale row 1?
If so, I may be tempted to think T. b. butleri.

[adamanteus]

From a UK shop it's almost definitely a parietalis. We just don't get Easterns very often in the UK pet trade.

We weren't criticising the photograph, it's fine. It just shows the wrong bits!;)
Close up pics of snakes are difficult because without very strong lighting you lose a lot of the depth of field, so part of the snake is always going to be out of focus.

[Stefan-A]

I'd say that's a parietalis, but I think it's time to start counting scales and posting more detailed pictures. ;)

[reptileparadise]

It looks like it might be parietalis with no, or very little red or maybe a very dark sirtalis, but I doubt that...

[enigma200316]

I was thinking sirtalis or parietalis as well but need more pics......;)

[Thamnophis]

I agree... eastern or parietalis.

[Josh]

parietalis.