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Samm
04-28-2008, 06:02 PM
So my sister's were collecting worms for my snake [brown snake]
when they came running into the house saying they found a snake,by their reactions i was expecting an anaconda....but need'less to say this is a baby snake [and its so freaking cute] but when i say baby...i mean some of the worms where bigger then this.


So i have a questions ><

Is this snake to young to keep? ;[ [ its so cool]
And dont worry i'll be posting pics asap

The top of it is blackish/brownish and the bottom is almost a pink color

I was so excited thinking i finally have a garter..but now takeing a closer look im not sure what he is.



:confused:

adamanteus
04-28-2008, 06:06 PM
We need pics to tell you what it is, Samm.... but it sounds like a Ring Neck Snake Diadophis species.

Samm
04-28-2008, 06:14 PM
Im uploading the pics now ><

I was going to make this thread when i had the pics...i just get excited



btw thanks for replying..your always really helpful

enigma200316
04-28-2008, 06:17 PM
We need pics to tell you what it is, Samm.... but it sounds like a Ring Neck Snake Diadophis species.


funny James I was thinking the same thing when I read the post................:D

Samm
04-28-2008, 06:21 PM
I probaly should have dusted off that crate thing before i brought it into my room *nods*


I couldnt get many good pics..my camera sucks but if you need more..ill take more



http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/Riots__/snake009.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/Riots__/snake011.jpg

EdgyExoticReptiles
04-28-2008, 06:23 PM
i think thats a sharp tailed snake, does it have a sharp tail?
this is one i found
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/general-talk/2738-baby-sharp-tailed-snake-pics.html
and heres and info link
Contia tenuis - Sharp-tailed Snake (http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/c.tenuis.html)

Samm
04-28-2008, 06:38 PM
Dude that snake looks awesome

Im sorta thinking it looks this way because it's just a baby?

but he/she does have a sharp tail

EdgyExoticReptiles
04-28-2008, 06:41 PM
and it has kinda box like head right? then its a sharp-tail. they dont get very big like 8" max i think, they eat slender salamanders and slugs

Dude that snake looks awesome

Im sorta thinking it looks this way because it's just a baby?

but he/she does have a sharp tail

Samm
04-28-2008, 06:52 PM
Yeah i read the link you gave me..and it might be

We found him after it rained..and he was in an area where there's lots of salamanders and sometimes a couple slugs

EdgyExoticReptiles
04-28-2008, 06:54 PM
also flip him over if it has those black and white stripes it for sure a sharp-tail, and yea i always find them where there are salamanders

Yeah i read the link you gave me..and it might be

We found him after it rained..and he was in an area where there's lots of salamanders and sometimes a couple slugs

Sid
04-29-2008, 03:24 AM
For your location, I'm leaning toward a Redbellied Snake. They max out at about 10 inches long and feed on worms, slugs and small salamanders.

Check this link and see what you think. Snakes of North Carolina (http://www.bio.davidson.edu/projects/herpcons/herps_of_NC/snakes/snakes.html)

Lori P
04-29-2008, 05:47 AM
Oh, whatever he is, he's wicked cute and tiny.

Wait. You have your sisters out collecting worms for you?? How on earth did you manage that one-- threats or bribery?!! LOL!!!

Samm
04-29-2008, 02:02 PM
Lol...they like to watch him eat...and they like digging around outside..so i put 2 in2 togother :D

Also sid,that's what my dad also said,[but he also said it might be a racer...cough]
Im sorta leaning toward the worm snake



btw i have that website saved onto my fav's ;D

EdgyExoticReptiles
04-29-2008, 05:35 PM
i just re-read thew post not a sharp tail, they dont have pinkish bellies:) sorry bout that

Lol...they like to watch him eat...and they like digging around outside..so i put 2 in2 togother :D

Also sid,that's what my dad also said,[but he also said it might be a racer...cough]
Im sorta leaning toward the worm snake



btw i have that website saved onto my fav's ;D

Sid
04-29-2008, 06:30 PM
Definately not a racer, Sam and take a close look at the worm snake. They don't show any neck at all. The head simply tapers to a point with extremely tiny eyes.

Samm
04-29-2008, 08:01 PM
He was alot more clam today,so i was able to take better pics
[and you can see just how small he is]

my sister found another one today about the same size/color except his top was lighter

Also,while i was holding him i noticed there was some waterish thing's coming out of his tail? I thought it was musk but this didnt have any odor to it [did it pee o.0]

there was also some coming from the top of his head,but im pretty sure that was just from the water dish

In the first picture where the curve/lump thingy is,that's where he was 'leaking'
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/Riots__/snake022.jpg

And so you can see the colors best
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/Riots__/snake024.jpg

aSnakeLovinBabe
04-29-2008, 08:07 PM
that does not look like any red-bellied snake i have ever seen. the tail is too stumpy and the red extends way too far up the snake's sides. Also, is it jsut me or does your snake have very smooth shiny scales? Redbellied snakes have keeled scales.

On a side note, many people call red bellied snakes "red bellied racers", they are not racers at all, but they for some reason are called that by some people.

If you could put the snake on the carpet or something and take a snapshot that is far away enough so that it focuses on the carpet and the snake, it would help immensely!

count dewclaw
04-29-2008, 08:20 PM
What a cute little snake! Sorry I can't help with the ID...

BTW I like your thirdday poster (what I can see of it) ;):D

Samm
04-29-2008, 08:26 PM
I will run up to the store to get more battiers for the camera/take the pic you need right now,btw the scales are very smooth and shiny.Also,he has trouble moveing on the cage it's self [had to put some dirt into the cage so he could move,other wise when he tried to slide around it seemed like he couldnt move that well and started to freak out.


[glad to see someone else likes thirdway]




btw

Does musk have a smell to it?i always thought it was something some snakes put out that was really foul smelling.he puts some type of clear liquid out..but it doesnt have a smell to it.

aSnakeLovinBabe
04-29-2008, 08:28 PM
he probably urinated a bit... yea it was a good idea to put some substrate in there, you don't want him jsut sitting on glass, if he has smooth shiny scales, a a flat head, he most likely is a snake that burrows and will spend most of him time underground. where in the US do you live?

aSnakeLovinBabe
04-29-2008, 08:31 PM
I jsut went back and looked at your first pic, and I need to add that you need a lot more substrate on your cage bottom. the snake is never going to feel secure without it. also, make sure he's got adequate heat and a water dish that is pushed down into the bedding so taht he can find water when he needs it.

Samm
04-29-2008, 08:53 PM
Yeah,his cage was lacking alot ><..

I've filled half of it with the dirt [stuff you get when you buy worms],and put a water dish in the corner,then used a paper towel and a little bit of dirt with a bigger water dish and a heat rock for the other side

On the side with the dirt he was a heat patch [i dont think thats the real name of it]
Stuck to the bottom of his cage warming up his dirt




I had to put him on a plastic thing,when i put him just on the cushion,he would slitther away >< [had to catch him twice]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/Riots__/snake026.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/Riots__/snake027.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/Riots__/snake028.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/Riots__/snake029.jpg

adamanteus
04-30-2008, 06:52 AM
It looks to me like a Western Worm Snake Carphophis amoenus vermis. Do you live within the range of this snake?

Samm
04-30-2008, 01:52 PM
Had to look at alot if site's to find out ><
Yes i live in it's Biogeography [North Carolina]

Charlet_2007
05-01-2008, 01:05 AM
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