Vagrans I have met...

[ssssnakeluvr]

well.....thought I would add one....here's some wandering garters I have....

normal male
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/wander_2.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/wander1.jpg

hypermelanistic wandering male....

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/wander_3.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/wander_4.jpg

[ssssnakeluvr]

orange male.....

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/medium/wander_5.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/wander_6.jpg

and my gray female

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/wander_7.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/wander_8.jpg

[adamanteus]

I like that grey female, Don. Unfortunately I can't contribute to this thread.:(

[ssssnakeluvr]

Maybe we can fix that little problem at the thamnophis world meeting.....:cool:

[Stefan-A]

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/snakesies08/vagr-feb06.jpg

[Snaky]

I must say, I really like them. Was tempted at the fair in Houten, there were some very dark ones there. But don't have the room...:(

[enigma200316]

very nice looking snakes, deff. like the gray one to........:D

[Lori P]

Wow, me too, I really like the grey one. And she's so cute in that pic-- peeking out, like, "Is that camera still out there?!"

[adamanteus]

Wow, me too, I really like the grey one.

What's this? An American who can actually spell 'grey'!!:D

[count dewclaw]

What's this? An American who can actually spell 'grey'!!:D

The problem is the schools teach it both ways, so they must be right :rolleyes: ,or something like that...

[anji1971]

Count me in -- I like the grey one too!:)

[ssssnakeluvr]

here's a neat shot of "Stripe", my hypermel male with the full stripes... he's in my back yard here...

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/hypermel.jpg

[jitami]

Thanks for bringing this thread back up to the top and for your beautiful addition, Don. It's your silver girl that makes me drool, tho :)

[ssssnakeluvr]

you're welcome!!! here's some shots of a gravid wandering brought to me by my rescue friend.... nice orange on her belly!!!

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/orange_vagrans_2.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/orange_vagrans.jpg

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow that is a neat color!!!!!!:D:D

[GartersRock]

I LOVE vagrans!!
Sylar: Poss Het for Hypermel Male
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d807b3127ccec420ea4eb7ef00000070O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/
Claire: Reduced pattern steel grey female
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d925b3127ccec4dd54153bbc00000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/
Elle: Regular. This girl is ready to POP! I can't WAIT!! She just cleared out of blue phase. =D
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d925b3127ccec4dcb7ba5bb600000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d925b3127ccec4dc732dda7300000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

Niki: Poss Het for Hypermel. Gravid. Just went into blue phase. But not sure if this is the pre birth shed. Could be?
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d925b3127ccec4dcd46f1bca00000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d925b3127ccec4dd61d2fac900000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

[GartersRock]

Peter Petrelli: Poss Het for Hypermel. My fav!!
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d925b3127ccec4dce82e9aa500000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d925b3127ccec4dd4ecbba5f00000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d925b3127ccec4ddc207bad500000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

Vagrans are cool!! =D

[jitami]

Claire can come stay at my house anytime :)

Good luck with the gravid girls!

[Garter_Gertie]

Wow. I need to get like 100 more snakes. Those are simply gorgeous. Little photog hams. How'd you teach them to pose so nicely? :p

[GartersRock]

jitami, she is a lovely girl isn't she?

Gertie, =D Thanks! It's a tough challenge actually. Every one of them was a pain. Especially Peter and Claire. What you do is you cup your hand over their whole body until they stop trying to push their way out. Then slowly let your hand up until they "get" that they need to just stay put. It can take 1-50 times. lol! But you'll get it eventually. I expect pics of yours when they come home. ;)

[jitami]

She's my absolutely favorite snake ever :) followed very closely by Don's silver/white/black eastern. I may end up going with easterns instead, but I really, really, really love Claire :)

[Steven@HumboldtHerps]

I personally have never met a vagrans, but I must say - So many of the pics I have seen totally remind me of some of the atratus I find further inland!

Of course recent genetic studies indicate that the ordinoides, atratus and elegans complexes are closely related.

Great snakes!

Steve

[Garter_Gertie]

Steve, I just wanna say... It is SO NICE to have you here! You're a wonderful, patient teacher with a great sense of humor and I appreciate the time you put in here to help and educate - especially me. Your joy, facination and enthusiasum for herps, snakes in particular, is opening the once formerly squinted-closed eyes of this previous Herp Hater. I'm so glad to have "vagran" across you! :D

[GartersRock]

Really?? Well I am sure Claire is flattered. =D She has a lot of personality as well. Very active but handles really well. And is a PIGGY eater. ;)
Can't wait to breed her next year!!

Don's silver eastern is one of my favorites too! Just incredible!!!

[el lobo]

I love vagrans heads! they look so aquatic!

[GartersRock]

Hmm. Interesting observation!

[Steven@HumboldtHerps]

Steve, I just wanna say... It is SO NICE to have you here! You're a wonderful, patient teacher with a great sense of humor and I appreciate the time you put in here to help and educate - especially me. Your joy, facination and enthusiasum for herps, snakes in particular, is opening the once formerly squinted-closed eyes of this previous Herp Hater. I'm so glad to have "vagran" across you! :D

Why thank you... But really! A previous Herp Hater? You? That's awesome! What made you reform? LOL! No really, how does a herp hater "warm up" to herps? I want to know. That way I can open up my First Church of Heavenly Herps and preach to the world how snakes are not evil! Just joking of course. I am not a religious person, but if I were, that would be my congregation... okay, not really... maybe just a cult... uh... okay, how 'bout a small get-together chanting "Yay snakes! Woo hoo lizards! Toss me a frog?"

I don't usually get this silly, sorry; I will be serious information dude again!
Roar! Hissss! Actually, the reason I am off kilter tonight iiiiis: I went on a herp hike along the Trinity River today and did not find a single snake! That's a big boo-hoo and some cheese with my whine! Waaaah!

Okay, much better now...

Sincerely and oh so slowly letting the freak shine,

Steve

[ssssnakeluvr]

Why thank you... But really! A previous Herp Hater? You? That's awesome! What made you reform? LOL! No really, how does a herp hater "warm up" to herps? I want to know. That way I can open up my First Church of Heavenly Herps and preach to the world how snakes are not evil! Just joking of course. I am not a religious person, but if I were, that would be my congregation... okay, not really... maybe just a cult... uh... okay, how 'bout a small get-together chanting "Yay snakes! Woo hoo lizards! Toss me a frog?"

I don't usually get this silly, sorry; I will be serious information dude again!
Roar! Hissss! Actually, the reason I am off kilter tonight iiiiis: I went on a herp hike along the Trinity River today and did not find a single snake! That's a big boo-hoo and some cheese with my whine! Waaaah!

Okay, much better now...

Sincerely and oh so slowly letting the freak shine,

Steve
Amen Brother!!!! will open a branch out here!!!!!! :D

yea, it sucks to not see anything....but a lousy day herping is better than a good day working!!!!!:cool:

[Lori P]

LOLOL Steven, we like to see the silly side come out!!! Now I can't get Neil Diamond's "Brother Love" song out of my head. lol

[Steven@HumboldtHerps]

Yeah, I am over it now. I did find an awesome Boreal Toad and lots of Foothill Yellow-legged Frogs tho....

Thanks for the story Gertie - that wonderful progression towards serpent appreciation. Now how do we turn all the other "ophidiaphobes" into snake lovers?!!! Even the gradual approach doesn't work with everyone!

[ssssnakeluvr]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/odd_gray_2.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/odd_gray_1.jpg

[adamanteus]

I like that last picture, Don. Very nice!

[ssssnakeluvr]

thanks!!! I posted them on here in this computer...I work mostly on my wife's laptop...wanted to post some photos on the garter snake forum on kingsnake and couldn't find them here.... so loaded them and here they are! she is my favorite vagrans....in brumation now...will be pairing her up with my hypermels. found her about a block from where I live!!! she is a good feeder, pounds unscented rat pups!!!!

[Snaky]

That's a very nice vagrans! :)

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow nice snakes don!!!:D