Lulu's Albino Checkereds.

[adamanteus]

Hi Guys, I just heard from Lulu.... She asked me to let you all know that her albino marcianus has had babies! I don't know how many yet, but she has promised to up-date us and post pictures very soon.
So a BIG congratulations to Lulu... it's her very first time!:D

[enigma200316]

Great!!, tell her congrats and can't wait to see...........:)

[Sid]

Great news, Lulu and congratulations.

[Stefan-A]

Aw, everybody's having babies except me. :(

Congratulations, Lulu! :D

[adamanteus]

Aw, everybody's having babies except me.

It does feel that way, doesn't it? I'm considering giving mine a little squeeze... just to speed things up a little bit.:D

[anji1971]

Oh, I can't wait to see them, they must be adorable!!:)
Congrats to Lulu!

[Stefan-A]

It does feel that way, doesn't it? I'm considering giving mine a little squeeze... just to speed things up a little bit.:D
Well, I do have a shotgun.. Maybe it could speed things up a bit as well. :D

[enigma200316]

Well, I do have a shotgun.. Maybe it could speed things up a bit as well. :D


you and James, Stefan are alway so funny..............:rolleyes::D

[reptileparadise]

Big congrats to Lulu!
Yeah, seems like everyones garters are gravid...Can't wait to have some little buggers around here again...

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

congratulations on the litter!

[drache]

Lulu - cool - congrats
aren't babies fantastic - I mean garter babies
I'm not sure mine will ever have babies
Sammy and Boyfriend have been at it again
would they be doing that if it worked the first time?
I wonder whether they're just bloody hedonists
last time I looked, she was clearly into it as well
anyway
can't wait to see pics of your babies, Lu
and all the details

[Lulu Bennett]

Awww, thanks guys.
All together i have got 16 live, 1 still born and 1 jellybean.
i am quite chuffed and spent yesterday bouncing off the walls at work hahaha. will try and post the 4 pics i have but they are very tiny and very fast lol

[Sid]

Awww, thanks guys.
All together i have got 16 live, 1 still born and 1 jellybean.
i am quite chuffed and spent yesterday bouncing off the walls at work hahaha. will try and post the 4 pics i have but they are very tiny and very fast lol
Looking forward to the photos, Lulu.:D

[ScimitarX]

Congratulations:D

[Lori P]

Congrats, Lulu!!! I can't wait to see. :-)

[Lulu Bennett]

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[zooplan]

congratulations Lulu,
everybody get thier baby garters
but I´m stll waiting:(

[anji1971]

Even in those little pictures, they look just precious!!
Oh, I wish I could get one............
Congrats again, Lulu!

[Thamnophis]

Good one, Lulu!!!

[Snaky]

Congrats, Lulu! Very nice, those little marcianus:D

[Lulu Bennett]

Kia has only just dropped her sprogs and Sissle is already trying to make more babies hehehe xxxx

[Lulu Bennett]

only 5 babies have ate but can't get the others to. any suggestions?

[adamanteus]

Yeah..... give them to me!:D
I wouldn't worry just yet, Lulu. It's still early days.

[zooplan]

What kind of food do you have offered?
You can try to spray some water to the enclosure before feeding, thats my suggestion and worked well for me several times.

[Lulu Bennett]

i have tried worms, fish and pinkys all chopped into tiny pieces.
6 have eaten so far. about to try again once pinky is defrosted.
Haha james if you want one then its yours. you have helped me alot over the last year sweety. ;)

[adamanteus]

Bless you, I graciously accept:). (I'll take the mother)! :D

[Lori P]

LOL.. give him an inch, he'll take a mile!!!!

[Lulu Bennett]

hahaha james i would like to see you try :mad: this b***h can BITE! hehe

[adamanteus]

Have you taken any 'postable' pictures yet, Lulu?

[Lulu Bennett]

i have just this min been trying but it just won't let me

[adamanteus]

Rather than a bulk upload, have you tried uploading single shots?

[Lulu Bennett]

yeah i have already tryed :o(

[adamanteus]

That's weird. Are you loading them from your mobile?

[Lulu Bennett]

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[adamanteus]

Very cute! "I want that one"!

[Lulu Bennett]

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[Lulu Bennett]

james, i don't know which one that one is lol

[adamanteus]

james, i don't know which one that one is lol

"Yeah, I know"!

(I've been watching Little Britain).

[Lulu Bennett]

hahahaha james, hahaha

[adamanteus]

They're really lovely, Lulu. How many have eaten so far?

[Lulu Bennett]

5 have eaten so far and the love their food too lol

[Lulu Bennett]

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[Lulu Bennett]

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[Lori P]

Oh, my gosh, I'm in loooooooove!!!!!! Yep, albino checkered, next on my garter wish list!!!!! But not this year... next year. Lulu, they are too adorable for words!!!

[Lulu Bennett]

Lori, i wasn't even sure if Kia was pregnant so it was a fantastic belated xmas pressant haha i love them. Don't even know if i could get reid of them, it will be gut renching lol

[Zephyr]

So precious! X3

[Lori P]

Lori, i wasn't even sure if Kia was pregnant so it was a fantastic belated xmas pressant haha i love them. Don't even know if i could get reid of them, it will be gut renching lol

I hear you-- I can't imagine I'd be able to let them go... I'd have a hard time trusting people to take care of them. Well, I'd probably feel comfortable with a couple of people on this forum. Maybe. :D:D LOL!!!

Funny, isn't it, I'm more comfortable adopting out a dog or a horse than a snake... but it's because people really don't tend to view reptiles as lifetime commitments. They're more of a novelty to most.

Well, Lulu, you'll just have to keep them all... except for the ones you hand deliver here... LOL!!!

[Lulu Bennett]

well for those that can get local i am going to put up an ad to see who is interested.
In the end its down to who eats properly and if any (god forbid) pass on to the viv in the sky.

[anji1971]

Lulu, those little sweeties are just too cute for words! Wish I was close enough to get a couple......

[Lori P]

Anji, I think we should take a road trip to Lulu's. Well, a road trip, sky trip, water trip... LOL!!

[adamanteus]

I think you should.... I'll be there to meet you!:eek:

[anji1971]

That would cost an awful lot for a snake or two!!:D But if I could afford it, I would so be there!

[Lulu Bennett]

I think you should.... I'll be there to meet you!:eek:

me too ;)
come on guys.

[Lori P]

Yeah... darn that thing called money... sigh. Isn't there someone on this forum who is independently wealthy and who wants to adopt a couple of us?? And then promptly send me and Anji overseas?? LOL

[ssssnakeluvr]

Yeah... darn that thing called money... sigh. Isn't there someone on this forum who is independently wealthy and who wants to adopt a couple of us?? And then promptly send me and Anji overseas?? LOL
what's this "independently wealthy" thing you speak of?????

[Zephyr]

what's this "independently wealthy" thing you speak of?????My roaches feed themselves.
And I have about three dollars in change...
Maybe we could ship Anji and Lori via USPS.

[anji1971]

If USPS is what it takes, I'm in!!
Some poor people will do almost anything to be able to travel!:D

[Lulu Bennett]

Anji, i have got a few pounds in my copper jar an about 5euros lol if that helps :p

[anji1971]

Can you imagine what the shipping costs would be for a 150lb package????:eek:
Hope you have more than pocket change, people!!:D

[Loren]

Nice snakes Lulu.

[Snaky]

Congrats again, Lulu. Those are some lovely babies :)

[Zephyr]

Don't you just love beby albino checkereds?!
Not to brag, but mine are already on unscented pinks. :P
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Hubba on the left and Bubba on the right. :D

[zooplan]

Are they still babies when they feed on whole mice?

[jeanette]

wow they are very cute, very similar in looks as babies to corn snake hatchlings. Absolutely stunning :)
i think im going to go to the IHS show this summer to see what they have in the way of Garters, Lots of reptile nuts go so i might be in with a chance of a bargain.

[Lulu Bennett]

thank you very much jeanette.
Welcome to the forum btw. its great to see more UK based members joining, it is making the uk reunion look all the more interesting :D

[Lulu Bennett]

guys, i can still only get the same 5 to eat. 11 still havn't touched a thing.
when should i start worrying?
any tips?

[Snaky]

They can take a few weeks without food.

You can try a living fish in a shallow water dish. The movement of the fish might trigger the snakes.

Otherwise if you think it's necessary, you can forcefeed them once. Usually they'll start eating after you did it once...

[Gijs & Sabine]

First of all, congrats Lulu !!! (kind of late reaction :o)

I agree with Hans, if the food is moving it could work.
And you can consider force feeding if nothing else works. Last year we bought a cyrtopsis ocellatus of wich we knew he wasn't eating by himself. We have force fed him several times and then suddenly he start eating by himself.

Good luck :)

[GarterGirl]

Congrats Lulu!!!
They're so cute!!!

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

yea i would try the live fish thing, no garter ive had has ever not eaten them

[chloe]

Congratulations Lulu they are so cute

[Lulu Bennett]

how the hell do you force feed something that is sooooo small?

[Zephyr]

I prefer the blood and gore technique... Also, using live, flailing fish seems to get their attention as well.

[Lulu Bennett]

bought a load of neon tetras and only 3 still havn't eaten. :D:D:D:D
soooooo chuffed but its £18 a meal :(

[Snaky]

It's costy, but hopefully they will start eating normally now. Otherwise, scent the food with a tetra next time... great to hear only 3 are left without having eaten :)

[adamanteus]

I'm pleased the Neons worked for you Lulu, but they are expensive. Have you thought of putting some strips of trout in the water with them? Then, when the snakes are chasing the Neons, they bump into the trout and 'voila'!

[Lori P]

Lulu... we need new pics!!!

[Lulu Bennett]

i will get some pics and upload them soon i promise ;)

[Lulu Bennett]

Guys,
Bad news.
10 of the 14 are pretty much dead.
i fed them last night on fish and all but 2 again ate. then this morning i put them into a small container with water (10 poss female in one and 4 poss males in another) and placed them into the adults tank because its a bit warmer. now (3hrs later) all my females are rippled up with regurgitated food around them and the males are happy as larry and ok. just put them in water now incase i dehydrated them and 3 started moving but i don't think it will last long.

[reptileparadise]

damn Lulu, that really sucks...
Any chance you could try tadpoles? or something amphibian?

[Lulu Bennett]

can.t get hold of anything like that here i don't think.
what i dont understand is what did it.
2 of the none eaters were amongst the dead. and the four that are fine were put in the adult tank too and they are fine.
i am really confuzzled!

[adamanteus]

I'm really sorry Lulu. That's just too bad!:( XXX
Like I said, if you want these two back, it's no problem.

[enigma200316]

so sorry Lulu, these things just sometimes happen though without explanation.............:(

[Elliot]

Sorry Lulu. :(

[Sid]

So sorry to hear the bad news, Lulu:(

[CrazyHedgehog]

sorry lulu, is there any chance you put the females too near the heat source? heat affects them really quickly when they are so small...

[drache]

oh that's awful news, Lulu

[Lulu Bennett]

i am almost certain it was human error (a nicer way of saying 'its my own bl**dy fault') i haddn't realised it but the tank was getting to the 90's with the new bulb. i should have paid more attention. i WILL know for next time.
1 out of the 10 survived! she was really weak at first but she is giddy as anything now. really happy with her progress. I have called her Hope.

[count dewclaw]

Sorry for your losses. Don't be too hard on yourself, learn from it and move on :). You still have Hope (double meaning intended :D )!

[anji1971]

Lulu, as hard as this experience was, and as bad as you feel because of it, just remember two things.
1. We've all made mistakes, and it sucks, but we're only human, and that's how life goes.
2. When things like this happen, someone else on this forum will benefit, because they will remember, and watch for it when they are raising their own baby snakes. So you've potentially saved many little lives by your experience!

Don't be too hard on yourself, and enjoy little Hope. And for heaven's sake, keep us all up to date on her progress!:)

[Lulu Bennett]

thanks for thoes kind words anji xxx

also i would like to thank Anji & James for listening to me moaning and sobbing lol. it was just Anji online so she got the brunt of it lol hahaha

Thanks guys xxxx

[anji1971]

Lu, I already told you,
if I'm around when someone needs me, I'm happy to share in the misery!;):D
Really, I'm glad I could be there to listen...........no need to thank me!

[adamanteus]

Lu, I already told you,
if I'm around when someone needs me, I'm happy to share in the misery!;):D
Really, I'm glad I could be there to listen...........no need to thank me!


That goes for me too.
You were all there when I needed some support. Only too happy to return the favour!:D

[Snake lover 3-25]

oooooo......... welll i will def be careful with my babies...... now i know how easily they can get in danger...... feel better EVERYONE makes mistakes!!!!!!:D:D:D