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Squeaky10199
03-27-2008, 10:52 AM
hey i havent posted here in awhile and i thought i would share some new pics!

i love this species for their looks! i like how he has green on the top part underbelly...
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee250/squeaky10199/crap008.jpg

Here is his enclosure i set up for him just yesterday!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee250/squeaky10199/tank002.jpg
there is a hide in the back left corner, then he has his bark basking spot and some plants with his water bowl with a piece of pvc in the back right for another hide.

here are some more shots!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee250/squeaky10199/crap007.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee250/squeaky10199/blah008.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee250/squeaky10199/blah007.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee250/squeaky10199/blah006.jpg

So what do you guys think of the enclosure setup? comment please!!!!! OH and he started eating a week ago... he wouldnt eat because i didnt have worms to feed him due to winter but now i have gotten worms and he is eating like a pig!

aSnakeLovinBabe
03-27-2008, 07:00 PM
the first pic enclosure looks good... that green carpetish stuff in the other pics I have heard irritates their bellies :(

you have a beautiful garter snake though :D

Sid
03-27-2008, 08:06 PM
Looks good, those are nice photos

GarterGuy
03-27-2008, 11:40 PM
Nice looking snake and the cage looks good too. Still bucking the group though and think you've got a T.butleri and not a T.s.sirtalis.....now more then ever, with this group of pics.

Stefan-A
03-28-2008, 12:11 AM
I agree with Roy.

Butler's are so rare on this forum, that I think most of us didn't even consider the possibility that this might have been one. I sure as hell didn't.

drache
03-28-2008, 03:22 AM
a beautiful snake
now please explain to to me and possible other ID impaired people how you can tell that it's a butler's - what are the distinguishing features?
my Rossman is still in one of the book boxes . . .

Snaky
03-28-2008, 03:24 AM
A very nice garter :)

Stefan-A
03-28-2008, 04:09 AM
a beautiful snake
now please explain to to me and possible other ID impaired people how you can tell that it's a butler's - what are the distinguishing features?
my Rossman is still in one of the book boxes . . .
- The lateral stripe is high. It's supposed to start in the second and stretch to the fourth row, at least partially. That's why my second guess earlier was radix, because it was high enough to be in the fourth row.

- The head shouldn't be significantly wider than the neck, which also applies to one or two other garters specialized in invertebrates. T. brachystoma was one of them, I think.

- Dorsal scale rows 19 max

- Supralabials: 6 or 7

- Infralabials 8 or 9

zooplan
03-28-2008, 05:22 AM
I agree thats is no ´sirtalis, but butleri and brachystome are quiet small secies.
What size is it(weight and lengh)?
Are you sure about the sex?

enigma200316
03-28-2008, 06:48 AM
I'm going to have to disagree with ya guys, I think it is a sirtalis and just one of the many variations of it, but hey what the hell do I know......:rolleyes:;)

Squeaky10199
03-28-2008, 09:45 AM
well in my opinion it probably is a butler because we have a small population of them here but they are protected in this area but if it is a butler i really dont care because i found him and im not going to let him go now! haha thanks for all the comments. and i dont have carpet in his enclosure anymore, i have it with dirt, the picture obove! i just did that one for him...

Squeaky10199
03-28-2008, 07:46 PM
i forgot to state he is about 15-20 inches and not that thick in girth. he loves to eat his worms but thats the only thing he will eat. i have had him for about 7 months now.