Old picture

[charles parenteau]

Some old pic 10 years ago...some taken by Phil Blais,(vavarium augu-sept 1998)

The only picture i have from my wc eastern melanistic...too bad
and 3 strippes flame.http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s152/parenteau/blaisflameetcdusanctuaire.jpg

[charles parenteau]

nexthttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s152/parenteau/divers.jpg

[charles parenteau]

wc 3 strippes flame.1998 and wc melanistichttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s152/parenteau/3strippes98.jpg

[Serpentine99]

Wow great pics of those amazing garters, yeah, too bad... Also is it just me or do alot more flames die than other species in captivity?

[charles parenteau]

What we know about flame is the result of almost 15 years of captive breeding ... From the start this morph come from only a couple of WC male and WC female with the perfect genetic ...
This is the best example of captive breeding effect mabe is because of less genetic variation , diet ,basking light or whatever.

My friend ,the pionner of this morph have a 9 year old female over 3 feet long apple red...His last living specimen from his first breed specimen.

Need some advice about that oh yes!!

[Snaky]

Some very nice snakes in the pictures!

[Sid]

Fantastic specimens, Charles. Thanks for sharing them with us.

[snakeman]

Alot of the pure Blais flames I got died.I can think of only one that made it to adult.All of the snakes that were crossed with normals or erythristics, melanistics etc. did much better.

[Snaky]

Some morphs are just more fragile. I also heard a lot about the sirtalis snows. I know a breeder of them and he has snows every year. A lot of snows don't even get to their first birthday. For example 4 out of 6 died within a few months...

[gregmonsta]

Gorgeous snakeys :)

[enigma200316]

great looking snakes and good pics, thanks for sharing.......:)

[anji1971]

Thanks for sharing. I just love the flames, hope I get to see one for real one day!

[Gijs & Sabine]

Very nice flames :eek: !!

I also heard that flames are very weak and can die easily. But last year we got ourselves some babyflames from Alan Francis and his adults are offspring from Blais as well. So far none of the babies died, actually they are doing great :) So I have good hope for these little ones.

[Serpentine99]

Well learing about genetics in biology, i learned that with breeding some of these more attractive or beneficial traits in an animal or human can also have less noticed harmful traits that can silently effect the animal or human in many ways. I was just thinking that perhaps these flames or snows could be an example of this scenario.

[GarterGuy]

Beautiful looking snakes. I love the flames with the red dorsal stripe as well, outstanding looking snakes. I hadn't actually heard about problems with the "fitness" of the flames before.....that's very interesting. One of my worries when it comes to line breeding for certain traits or such. The Blais line has some outstanding examples in it....it's kind of a shame it sounds like it's "dieing" out.

[adamanteus]

I hadn't heard about the weakness in the Flames either.... a bit worrying as I'm getting 1.2 this year.

[ssssnakeluvr]

haven't heard of that either.....Scott's are doing great all these years......

[osubeaver22]

Wow great pics, love the colors.