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EdgyExoticReptiles
02-10-2008, 11:46 PM
Ive found out that platys and mollies are on the ok list so i might breed those and are fancy guppies ok? i found that they are a bit larger than regular ugly grey ones and that they might be easier to breed, but do they contain THIAMINASE?, and what would be the easiest?
Thanks,
Reed

enigma200316
02-11-2008, 08:34 AM
Mollies would be a good choice actually if they are ok.......
they breed pretty well and are easy to keep.............:)

EdgyExoticReptiles
02-11-2008, 09:38 AM
ok i made sure mollies were ok and they are, they seem to be a good size and easy breeders so i'm gunna pick up some black ones from petco and start a colony

Mollies would be a good choice actually if they are ok.......
they breed pretty well and are easy to keep.............:)

enigma200316
02-11-2008, 05:13 PM
good luck, it should work.................:)

Zephyr
02-11-2008, 05:21 PM
Actually, I have to disagree.
Reed, you read my message already, but here it is for the rest of the forum

Mollies are practically salt water fish. Rosies are the easiest fish to breed. You won't need a heater or a filter, just a bubbler and some weekly water changes. Platies don't have as many babies as you think; if you're really paranoid about safe fish, use mosquito fish. As for rosies, Tikichick has been feeding her snakes exclusively on rosies since their birth and she reports no problems. I think the levels of thiaminase in goldfish is very high and very low in rosies, and the only thing that you need, in my opinion, to counteract the effects of thiaminase is a varied diet.
My two cents. :P

tikichick
02-11-2008, 07:34 PM
I'm sorry, I'm confused on fish again :rolleyes:

This is what mine eat. Are these flathead minnows or rosies?

http://www.lakehousemedia.com/hidden/herps/garters/food.jpg

Zephyr
02-11-2008, 07:37 PM
I'm sorry, I'm confused on fish again :rolleyes:

This is what mine eat. Are these flathead minnows or roses?



Fathead minnows ARE rosies. :P
Rosies are the nickname for the pink strain, which, as the pic demonstrates, may have some wild-color types mixed in.
Other names are fathead minnows, toughies, rosies, rosy reds, and crappy minnows.

tikichick
02-11-2008, 07:40 PM
LMAO, "crappy" minnows. Ok, I'll try to remember that this time :D Thanks!

Zephyr
02-11-2008, 07:48 PM
LMAO, "crappy" minnows. Ok, I'll try to remember that this time :D Thanks!Crappy as in the fish, but that works too. XD

drache
02-12-2008, 05:37 AM
that's the ones I get - crappy minnows - or at least most of the time

Stefan-A
02-12-2008, 08:27 AM
Crappy as in the fish, but that works too. XD
Crappie. :D ;)

enigma200316
02-12-2008, 08:33 AM
I have never kept any Molly in any kinda of salt water in my 20+ years
of keeping aquarium fish, and I know they keep easy and breed well....
my first ever fish when I was 4 or 5 yrs. old was a black molly and it had
15 babies and they grew very fast, and my mother sold 10 of them to the
petshop for store credit so I could buy things for my aquarium.........I have had many since then and used them for a veriety of things...........
it is very common to buy a molly and it will be pregnant because they breed well....agian thats my opinion and experience just wanted to put that in there...........................:)

Stefan-A
02-12-2008, 08:43 AM
Another nice thing about mollies is that they very rarely eat the newborn, even compared to other live-bearing fish. The downside was that they didn't reproduce very quickly compared to guppies and swordtails for example. The offspring are relatively large, if you got 10-15 young from a molly, you could get three times as many from a swordtail.

I didn't keep them in any kind of salt water either, but I only kept them for about 6 or 7 years.

enigma200316
02-12-2008, 08:47 AM
Another nice thing about mollies is that they very rarely eat the newborn, even compared to other live-bearing fish. The downside was that they didn't reproduce very quickly compared to guppies and swordtails for example. The offspring are relatively large, if you got 10-15 young from a molly, you could get three times as many from a swordtail.

I didn't keep them in any kind of salt water either, but I only kept them for about 6 or 7 years.


I agree with you Stefan, the guppies, and swordtails will breed faster, and I don't know if there on the list or not........:)

EdgyExoticReptiles
02-12-2008, 08:47 AM
i did a lot of reaserch on platies and they seem good (many babies/easy to breed/ easy to keep) so ill start out with them and if they dont work out ill move onto something elsee

Another nice thing about mollies is that they very rarely eat the newborn, even compared to other live-bearing fish. The downside was that they didn't reproduce very quickly compared to guppies and swordtails for example. The offspring are relatively large, if you got 10-15 young from a molly, you could get three times as many from a swordtail.

I didn't keep them in any kind of salt water either, but I only kept them for about 6 or 7 years.

enigma200316
02-12-2008, 08:50 AM
Reed, you have to do whats best and easiest for you...........;)
another easy one are danio's but don't know if there on the list either....

Zephyr
02-12-2008, 04:55 PM
Reed, you have to do whats best and easiest for you...........;)
another easy one are danio's but don't know if there on the list either....I would think they would be, they are cyprinids...
But the only thing I'd be concerned about is that platys and most other livebearers aren't part of a garters wild diet. Mosquito fish are US natives, however. ;D

KITKAT
02-13-2008, 08:53 PM
Reed, you have to do whats best and easiest for you...........;)
another easy one are danio's but don't know if there on the list either....

The list was made for mink (or was it fox?) nutrition, so they would not have focused on nor tested aquarium fish. Therefore, platies and danios may not be safe.

EdgyExoticReptiles
02-13-2008, 09:18 PM
gartersnake.info said they were okay

The list was made for mink (or was it fox?) nutrition, so they would not have focused on nor tested aquarium fish. Therefore, platies and danios may not be safe.