Feds Move To Ban Pythons & Boas

[tikichick]

http://www.pethobbyist.com/sitenews/...hons-Boas.html (http://www.pethobbyist.com/sitenews/index.php?/archives/202-Feds-Move-To-Ban-Pythons-Boas.html)

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[CrazyHedgehog]

wow thats a bit severe!!

[Sid]

Thanks for the info.

[gregmonsta]

It's a bit full on ... still I aggree that any of the biggies should only be available to people who will give them the space they need ... I was watching a programme on 'NG Wild' about how Burmese pythons have become established in the everglades through being released by petowners who couldn't cope any longer ... which, of course, will have an effect on the local wildlife ... the issue became public when a 13' python was found after consuming an alligator.

[tikichick]

I saw that show too. Florida's overrun with iguanas, too for the same reason. :mad:

[Stefan-A]

I admit I'm not very familiar with the situation in Florida, but I've always been under the impression, that the primary source of foreign reptiles down there in Florida, is the illicit pet trade and ignorant tourism. Both tourists and smugglers coming through Florida would dump their animals at first sight of trouble. The secondary would have been pet owners.

Speaking of released pets, our captial city just declared war on rabbits, because they cause 100,000€ worth of damage in parks and in gardens every year. As you may or may not have guessed, it's not a domestic species. They were in fact released by pet owners during an economic depression in the 90's.

But about this issue.. I don't really support any kind of bans or control, on the grounds that any system of control will ultimately be arbitrary and inconsistent and because of the fact that the vast majority of people it would hurt, would be completely innocent.

[Loren]

You beat me to it, I actually just got on the forum to post a thread about this topic myself! I'm glad to see that the word is getting out.

[Snaky]

At this moment, in Belgium, they're in the proces of making a law to only admit animals in Belgium that are on a 'positive' list. This means that we will not be able to have everything that's not on this list. Let me give you the draft of the list they've given to us:
http://www.terravzw.org/positieflijst/positieflijstreptielenvoorstelfod.pdf
(you won't be able to read the text, but the list is simple understood if you know the scientific names)

At this moment a bearded dragon is NOT in the list! Can you imagin the stupidity of this list?

[tikichick]

No beardies??? That's ludicrous!! What is it with all these anti-herper laws lately? :mad:

[Stefan-A]

No beardies??? That's ludicrous!! What is it with all these anti-herper laws lately? :mad:
They're probably running out of ways to show that they "care" about security (more of a reference to various hot bans). In other words, they're running out of things to ban. :rolleyes: Herpers are easy targets, too.

[drache]

No beardies??? That's ludicrous!! What is it with all these anti-herper laws lately? :mad:
I think the problem is that many of these laws are made by people with insufficient knowledge
it's bureaucrats run wild

[Snaky]

I think the problem is that many of these laws are made by people with insufficient knowledge
it's bureaucrats run wild
My opinion also. In Belgium, we're reacting by filling in sheets with behaviour/requirements/level of danger/... and 1 reptile organisation is collecting them and will send them in. But we're such a small country and so few people have reptiles, this will be a very hard one to win.

So I'm certainly with you guys and hope it will turn out for you!

[ssssnakeluvr]

hmm..maybe we should ban bureaucrats....:D has anyone heard of a boa or python killing anyone here in the U.S.?????? every time I see someone that got eaten by a large snake, its always someone out in the middle of nowhere in the snakes territory....not at some residential home with a large snake in a cage......

[drache]

death by reptile can't be much more common than accidental bath tub drownings

[Stefan-A]

hmm..maybe we should ban bureaucrats....:D
That's the only thing that actually needs to be banned. ;)

[snakeman]

There is a huge population of nile monitors in the western portion of florida.It's great when you are walking in the woods all by yourself and one of those things goes flying though the bushes.Scares the crap out of you.Not as bad as when I got growled at by something large in the bushes.I did,nt stick around to find out what it was.