dumpy frog

[drache]

yesterday I went to Sean's to rub some pinkies on a frog as a last ditch attempt to get my tri-coloured hognose to eat
it was a white's tree frog (aka dumpy frog)
and he gave me this look . . .
like he was checking me out very calmly
now I want him
and I found out that he's very good beginner frog
unfortunately my justification didn't work out, because the snake was no more interested in the frog scented pinks than in any other
like - I've got no good reason . . .
other than that he's so damn cute and well - that look

[tikichick]

Sounds like "the look of love" lol. Get one!

[drache]

I did ask Sean to hold him for me

[tikichick]

Cool! Good for you :)

[tikichick]

I just googled to see what they look like... too cute! So much expression, I can see why you want him. White's Tree Frogs (http://whitestreefrog.net/)

[Sid]

White's are really neat Tree Frogs, Rhea. Easy to care for.

[anji1971]

Oh, they ARE cute!!! You must get one, Rhea. I insist!:D

[tikichick]

Anji has spoken... and so it must be :D

[Serpentine99]

They look cool, id keep it if i were you.

[drache]

well here's our new friend

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2405/2240809496_e18273a13d_b.jpg

not full grown yet

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2240022071_463940af98_b.jpg

and
we've not come up with a good name yet
for a while it was Eddie, but it could be a female . . .

[KITKAT]

I have been deeply tempted by this species, but I know I don't have time for the care it needs... at least until I retire!:D

Can't they be sexed by the size of their thumbs, like other frogs?:confused:

[Sid]

Great photos, Rhea. Very nice speciman.:D Congrat's.

[anji1971]

So cool!! Glad you took my advice......:rolleyes::D:rolleyes:

[GarterGuy]

Very cool Rhea, congrats!:D

[Stefan-A]

Nice. :)

I'm tempted to suggest "Jabba", but.. ;)

[Snaky]

Looks like a very fun species to have :)

[drache]

I read up before adopting
they're the ultimate "beginner frog"
since I already have to have feeder insects, it's not a big deal
he needs a bit of misting and fresh water
no veggies to chop . . .
and I do think Jabba was modeled on them, because they can become ridiculously obese
mine is a nicely trim specimen
I don't know about the size of the thumbs, but apparently these can't be sexed until about 6 months of age, when the males will start calling
Jeff suggested Legolas for a boy, which can be turned into Leggy Lass if it's a girl
I don't know . . .

[scorpio]

Hi,

what a nice frog! Is this your daughter on the photo?

[drache]

yes it is
she's gartergirl on this forum
she has been very busy in the lego universe
but the frog got her attention
maybe we should name it Lego - that's pretty gender neutral

[MoJo]

Cute frog! My daughter has been wanting a tree frog for quite a while. How hard is the care?

[CrazyHedgehog]

yay (I kept looking at this thread to see if you had succumbed...)
now thats one cute smiley frog...

[drache]

not at all
they don't need a huge amount of heat
they are completely carnivourous, so bugs and occasional pinkies are all they eat and as adults they only eat a couple of times per week
they climb, so they need more space vertically than horizontally
they do get their water dirty and that needs to get changed at least once a day

[Lori P]

Wow, he's huge!!!! I kept picturing the little tree frogs around here. He is really cool!!! Congrats. :-)

[tikichick]

Awww, what a sweet face! Congratulations! :D

[drache]

thank you all
I'd not been sure, but I found out this morning
he can climb glass

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2147/2243323507_8cc17b95ab_b.jpg

[MoJo]

Very cute - we might just have to look into this!

[Lori P]

Rhea, does his food have to move for him to strike at it? Or can you use canned bugs or f/t pinkies?

[drache]

Rhea, does his food have to move for him to strike at it? Or can you use canned bugs or f/t pinkies?
I have no idea and will ask Sean
I do remember Sean saying that lobster roaches might scare him and to with something a bit slower
the literature says that they're non-stop eaters and that they can become obese - that doesn't sound like they're picky eaters
I haven't fed ours yet

[anji1971]

If they're like toads at all, then he'll eat anything that moves, and stuff that doesn't move, he'll eat anyway, just in case it moves!!:D

[Sputnik]

We bought a couple of tree frogs, too, a few weeks ago, they're not dumpy though, lol.
I have also managed to find an unusual way of housing them when I came across some heated propagators in our local garden centre. They only produce gentle heat and I have added extra ventilation holes and put the propagator on a timer just to make sure it definately doesn't get too hot. Since they have moved in, they have started barking! Totally weird sound!
I haven't seen them eat, but I guess they must do as they are still alive and there's poo in the tank. You never know with the food, it might have just crawled off.

Not feeling very green today...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/MrsSputnik/Snakes-%20not%20on%20a%20plane/DSC01584.jpg

Favourite spot...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/MrsSputnik/Snakes-%20not%20on%20a%20plane/DSC01573.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/MrsSputnik/Snakes-%20not%20on%20a%20plane/DSC01434.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/MrsSputnik/Snakes-%20not%20on%20a%20plane/DSC01432.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/MrsSputnik/Snakes-%20not%20on%20a%20plane/DSC01429.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/MrsSputnik/Snakes-%20not%20on%20a%20plane/DSC01428.jpg

[Lori P]

Wow, what a cool idea for a set up, Esther. And very cute froggies!!

My red bellied toad will only eat something moving, and it's hilarious to watch him because he'll creeeeeeeep up on a cricket walking by but if it stops for long enough, he just moves on.

I saw a White's at the petstore today when I was getting live pinkies. He was soooo cute!!! I'd never noticed them before, Rhea, but he kind of has my eye now... :rolleyes:

[tikichick]

Oh cool setup! I didn't know there was such a thing. What's the temp range like?

That frog is adorable!!!

[anji1971]

That heated propagation kit is really neat!!! I'm going to look around the garden centres when the spring stuff comes out and see if they carry them over here. I bet Toadie would like something like that, and obviously it would support live plant growth at the same time. Fabulous!!
BTW, the froggies are adorable, too!:D

[Charlet_2007]

call it varda (spelling?) Spanish for green

[Stefan-A]

Nice frogs. :)

I also like the housing solution. I toyed with the idea a few times, but the ones I found, didn't seem secure enough for baby snakes.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

its verde

call it varda (spelling?) Spanish for green

[Sputnik]

Nice frogs. :)

I also like the housing solution. I toyed with the idea a few times, but the ones I found, didn't seem secure enough for baby snakes.

Yeah, I was wondering if they'd work as vivs for snakes, but while the lid is fairly heavy and because of its shape not easy to lift from the inside, it's hard not to let anything escape when you open it as the whole lid lifts up. Even when I tilt it, I'm still always a bit weary of the frogs hopping out through the sides. It is incredibly cheap though! The whole propagator cost me just a little more than a large heatmat. To begin with the sides were totally steamed up but once I'd added extra ventilation holes the condensation cleared a fair bit.

[Stefan-A]

Some of the ones I found had sides that you could open, but they all seemed pretty flimsy and there would have been quite a few things you would have had to seal.

[tikichick]

To prevent escapes, before you open the lid, place the whole thing in a tall sided rubbermaid tub. Then if they get out, they're still within a container and easy to catch and return. I use that method when cleaning out my crickets' keeper.

[Sputnik]

It would have to be a pretty big tub! The propagator is 57x39x25 cm.
But I was thinking, that sitting it into the bath might be an idea. As long as I leave the plug hanging out. It does get fairly heavy though. I have pebbles, a large rock and water aswell as all the plants etc. in there.

The lid of this one, Stefan, is very strong plastic.

[Stefan-A]

Yeah, you can really see it in the pictures.

[drache]

that thing looks great
I guess it's like a miniature green house

and that frog is way cute too
what kind of tree frog is it?

[Sputnik]

A green one. :p

[anji1971]

A green one. :p

Is that the scientific name, Esther??:D:D:D

[drache]

you know
ours used to be green
we gave him forest bedding substrate though and now he's brown most of the time
will take pics later

[Stefan-A]

Is that the scientific name, Esther??:D:D:D
Hylidae and Rhacophoridae are mighty big families. ;) "Green" is accurate enough. ;)

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

it looks kinda like a white-lipped tree frog

[Stefan-A]

All tree frogs look pretty much the same, I couldn't even swear that it belongs to Hylidae. :) But the white-lipped tree frog is fairly common in the pet trade and it does have that white stripe.

[stonyloam]

“All tree frogs look pretty much the same”

Oh I don’t know about that, this cute little guy is a Gray Treefrog, Hyla versicolor that I found on my sidewalk last summer. Aside from those great little fingers it looks kinda like a toad.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tree_frog.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Don't take everthing so literally, Terry. ;)

[stonyloam]

I couldn't resist the chance to show off the cute little guy, and of course a rare chance to tweek you just a bit.;)

[Stefan-A]

:D I'm glad it meant so much to you. ;)

And you're right, it is a cute little guy. :)

[GarterGirl]

he sure is cute, terry! he looks like a mossy rock.

we named our froggy Ronni.

[RichardA]

I wouldnt use a whites dumpy to rub pinks on......Use tuna water for your pink scenting.


Nice froggy there by the way!

[GarterGirl]

Wait, does she literally rub the pinkies on the frog?

[drache]

I did
and it was for a snake that in the wild has an amphibian diet - hence no tuna

[GarterGirl]

i would certainly feel weird if someone was rubbing pinkies on me.
and which one is it?

[RichardA]

Whites are very toxic....and hognose do not eat tree frogs for any reason...LOL

Tuna water gets the response you are looking for most of the time....I raise hogs by the way.

[drache]

Whites are very toxic....and hognose do not eat tree frogs for any reason...LOL

Tuna water gets the response you are looking for most of the time....I raise hogs by the way.

do you know much about lystrophis pulcher?
I have a young male who's not eating

[RichardA]

They are one of the pickiest as juvies......try "braining" a pinky mouse. If you have tried tuna water, and native toads for scenting and nothing works, try putting it in a small deli-cup or small paper sack with the prey overnight.

Sometimes you can buy a few small lizards and get them to feed that first time then throw a pink in there right after. Live will get a response quicker too.

[drache]

thanks Richard
I'll try a few more things - and some again
started singing this song set to the melody of Suzy Q
oh tuna juice
oh tuna juice
oh tuna juice - maybe you're good news
tuna juice

[Lori P]

Rhea, hun, did you get up a bit too early this morning?? LOL!!!

Have you tried live pinks with him?

[GarterGirl]

She always gets up early.

[Lori P]

Does she make YOU get up early too?? :-)

[GarterGirl]

No, she likes it when I get up later cause then she doesn't have to have such a noisy morning. I choose to get up early.

[Lori P]

I can relate. I like a quiet morning too. But if the horses and donkeys see me moving around in the house, it doesn't stay quiet for long as the donks start BRAAYYYYYING for their breakfast, and then the turkeys start yelling and Rio the goat starts butting the front door. Sigh!!!!

[GarterGirl]

LOL!
Does he literally butt the door?

[Lori P]

Yes. Hard. You start hearing this "whump Whump WHump WHUmp WHUMP!!!!!" It gets louder as I ignore her. And sometimes she whams the sliding glass door--- I'm so afraid she'll break it one day. I RUN to feed her when I hear her hit that!!!!

[GarterGirl]

Well, I hope she doesn't break it one day. :)

[Lori P]

I'll have to come live with you if she does. I think that would be the one thing that sends my hubby over the edge. Do you have room for me and all my animals?? LOL :-)

[GarterGirl]

Um... maybe you could live in the basement? With all the storage? And boxes? And... bugs? They'll crawl all over your face!