ID without picture ???

[sschind]

OK, this probably won't work but I am going to give it a shot. I was at my wholesalers today looking at a very nice trio of Oregon red spots that he won't sell me and he showed me something else that came in with them. The snake was about 18-24" long. It had keeled scales It was a solid uniform brown with a single rusty orange red stripe running down the entire length of its back. I didn't ask but they were were WC so I am assuming that this one was caught in the same area as the red spots. I didn't have my camera and I don't know if he has one or not. otold one of his employees about this site so he said he was going to try to get a picture of it and post it.

I fugured that since you people were so good at this you might not need the picture. So how about it. Anyon from the Northwest have any ideas. All my field guides are eastern so I haven't had a chance to check them out yet.

thanks

Steve

[Stefan-A]

I bet it's an ordinoides. :) The species has a lot of color variation, even for a garter. I made a collage of 12 different naturally occurring morphs for a powerpoint presentation last year and there were still plenty that I couldn't find room for. One of them was uniform brown, but with a single red stripe.

[Sid]

Even without a photo I'm betting with Stefan on this. North Western.

[Odie]

Even without a photo I'm betting with Stefan on this. North Western.
Sounds about right to me :D

[Snaky]

I will let this to the pro's:D

[sschind]

Yeah, I checked out an Audobon guide book and figured that is what it was. The picture in the book showed the snake with two lateral stripes as well as the dorsal one and the color was a bit off but I figured it was a variation.

Thanks everyone, I knew I could count on you.

[adamanteus]

A bit late, I know.... but I thought T. ordinoides before I finished reading the post!

[Odie]

Still want/need a pic :rolleyes:

[sschind]

I'll work on it.

[enigma200316]

pics are the law here so get'em up asap............lol:D

[zooplan]

Like this?
http://www.zooplan.net/images/ordinoides.jpg

[Loren]

Here's a bunch of ordinoides pics.
Thamnophis ordinoides - Northwestern Gartersnake (http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/t.ordinoides.html)

[drache]

Udo! Loren!
you guys - really!!!
look what you've done now
I absolutely did not need another snake on my wish list
oh, it just never ends, does it?

[Sid]

Udo! Loren!
you guys - really!!!
look what you've done now
I absolutely did not need another snake on my wish list
oh, it just never ends, does it?
Rhea, my wife doesn't mind how long my wish list gets. It's when the list shrinks and the collection grows that get her.:D

[anji1971]

I am beginning to think that it is impossible to keep a wish list from growing.......:p

[drache]

I've taken things off my wish list
like the giant burm . . . just kidding - that was never on it
right now my wish list is pretty short - or was, before above pics

[anji1971]

Your wish list is short because you've manage to collect quite a few items that were on it!!
Mine just keeps growing because the first item on it is a bigger house to keep the rest of the list in!:rolleyes:

[Lori P]

Anji, I was thinking about what you said in another post, about not being able to take your neighbor's dragon because you don't have room for the cage. So here's my helpful suggestion: if you moved your kids' beds out onto the porch, you'd have room for a COUPLE of new tanks and herps!!!

No need to thank me!!!!:D

[drache]

no no no
you give the kids loft beds (they'll love that) and voila - you've got space for a couple of 72"X24" cages

[anji1971]

My ceilings are slanted and too low for loft beds.:(
Danged peaked roof houses!!!
But I could get a single bed and put Denis out on the porch...........:D

[ssssnakeluvr]

my wish list is short.......2 pair of every type of garter snake.....:eek:

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

i was thinking (for me) something more like 2 males and 4-6 females of each type and morph :)

my wish list is short.......2 pair of every type of garter snake.....:eek:

[zooplan]

My wish list is very short at the moment, I only wish for offspring of my amnelanistic ´parietalis:D

it looks like this
baby snake
amelanistic hatchling
neonate ´parietalis
het albino
big clutch
red sided offspring
baby snake
amelanistic hatchling
neonate ´parietalis
het albino
big clutch
red sided offspring
baby snake
amelanistic hatchling
neonate ´parietalis
het albino
big clutch
red sided offspring
baby snake
amelanistic hatchling
neonate ´parietalis
het albino
big clutch
red sided offspring
baby snake
amelanistic hatchling
neonate ´parietalis
het albino
big clutch
red sided offspring
baby snake
amelanistic hatchling
het albino
neonate ´parietalis
big clutch
red sided offspring
....:eek:

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

i have a question though so say i can get snake type xxxx what would i have to do so i will never have to buy another xxxx snake and i can just rotate babies as breeders

[Loren]

I actually have a notepad document saved on my computor titled "Lorens Herp Wish list", complete with latin and common names, and color and gender preferences for some. :cool: I update it from time to time. Some come off, some go on.
Does that make me weird?:)

[drache]

no
I think it's a great idea

[Lori P]

I'm sorry.. did you just utter the phrase "Does that make me weird"?? Trust me, the more I get into snakes, and the more I make adjustments to my daily life in order to accomodate and please said snakes, the more I re-define the word "weird" on a daily basis... LOL!!!!

[drache]

someone called me peculiar in 1986
they were trying to be polite

[anji1971]

People call me weird all the time, but I kind of like that! I'm the only person I know who likes snakes, so now you all know why I'm so addicted to this forum and everyone on it!:D

[tikichick]

I like being weird. I embrace my inner geekiness with gaiety and glee :D

One of my fave lines from Xena was Gabrielle saying, "Isn't there anyone here who can appreciate my specialness?" LOL

[Loren]

I think "wierd" is a relative term. I feel pretty normal here!:D

[drache]

that's true
I feel a lot less weird here than other places

[anji1971]

As I said, now you know why I'm an addict to the site....:D

[ssssnakeluvr]

I've never been accused of being normal....... :eek:

[Sid]

I've never been accused of being normal....... :eek:
Well Don, some how I just knew that was coming;)

[ssssnakeluvr]

hehehe....