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Found Red sexing Midge up and took some pic's :o
Is that something anyone would like me to post :confused:
Don't want gross anybody out :eek:
CrazyHedgehog
11-20-2007, 06:51 AM
go for it!
adamanteus
11-20-2007, 01:03 PM
It's fine Kenneth, that kind of porn is allowed here! Post it please.:)
Lori P
11-20-2007, 01:17 PM
(Getting popcorn and settling down for the show)
LOL :-)
Stefan-A
11-20-2007, 01:21 PM
I need a soundtrack, but I can't decide between porn music and Barry White.
Wow, I bet those words have never been combined that way ever before. :D
CrazyHedgehog
11-20-2007, 01:33 PM
oh yes they have....;)
Charlet_2007
11-20-2007, 02:35 PM
lmao !!!!!
drache
11-20-2007, 05:31 PM
oh the suspense of it . . .
Just pics. No movies.
Red was going backwards so I had to see what was going on.
This is what I found.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/RED_MIDGE34b.JPG
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Midge_draging_red.JPG
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Red_Midge_2b.JPG
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/red_midge_8b.JPG
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/red_midge_39b.JPG
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Red_getting_draged.JPG
Midge was draging poor Red all over the Viv.
EdgyExoticReptiles
11-21-2007, 09:40 PM
that must hurt getting dragged around the cage like that
Cazador
11-21-2007, 10:23 PM
Congrats, Odie. You're gonna be a... well, you're gonna have... I mean, babies are on the way :D.
Did you get to see the separation? If so, did it make you cringe?
Rick
zooplan
11-21-2007, 11:49 PM
Fantastic clear pictures.
Ihave some similar pictures in my collection, but they are only really blury.
Stefan-A
11-22-2007, 02:03 AM
Congrats, Odie. You're gonna be a... well, you're gonna have... I mean, babies are on the way :D.
That's what I thought, say, 6 months ago. :rolleyes:
Snaky
11-22-2007, 06:13 AM
NIce pics, looks like a common thread with garters, the female dragging the male all over the cage:rolleyes:
Did you get to see the separation? If so, did it make you cringe? Rick
No, dang it :(
Robin said to leave them alone when she saw me taking pic's :eek:
salzar
11-22-2007, 07:57 AM
omgosh what amazin pix, like wild kingdom.... too cool.
best of luck!!!
bye michelle
Lori P
11-22-2007, 08:00 AM
Well congrats grandpa!! Better start knitting-- er-- well-- not mittens, not booties, uuummmm... oh yeah, tiny little tail warmers! :-)
anji1971
11-22-2007, 08:15 AM
Awesome pics!! Hope you get lots of baby snakies, so the poor guy wasn't dragged all over kingdom come for nothing!!:D
adamanteus
11-22-2007, 05:05 PM
Great pictures, Kenneth. Let's hope it's a fruitful union!
Lulu Bennett
11-25-2007, 01:47 PM
that was minging, buti still couldn't stop looking lol
Congrats and lets home you get something out of it :D
adamanteus
11-25-2007, 02:45 PM
Minging? No it's not! It's a natural thing, and great news for their owner!:rolleyes:
Lulu Bennett
11-25-2007, 03:00 PM
Minging? No it's not! It's a natural thing, and great news for their owner!:rolleyes:
a natural thing can still be minging lol.
i have walked in on my parents :eek: ... a natural thing but still bloody minging :(
anji1971
11-25-2007, 04:11 PM
"Minging???" :confused::confused:
Is that one of those distinctly British terms??
Lulu Bennett
11-25-2007, 04:40 PM
"Minging???" :confused::confused:
Is that one of those distinctly British terms??
lol sorry Anji, Minging= Horrible, disgusting lol
Stefan-A
11-25-2007, 04:56 PM
lol sorry Anji, Minging= Horrible, disgusting lol
Any relation to the word "minge"? ;) :D
adamanteus
11-25-2007, 05:01 PM
Any relation to the word "minge"? ;) :D
No, it's a 'hard' G, as in gun. Not 'soft' as in ginger.:D
Cazador
11-25-2007, 05:25 PM
Hey Lulu,
I'm really sorry if you were offended by the snake mating picture, but I really think it was educational for a lot of people. For example, we talk about how the "hemipenes" are inverted within in a male's body. They, along with their muscles, create the swelling just posterior to their cloaca that we use to identify males from females. When blood engorges the hemipenes, they turn inside out (they evert) and are visible on the outside of the snake. During mating, both hemipenes don't have to get inserted into the female's cloaca in order to have a successful mating event. (I should mention that they're called hemipenes because they're split, or forked, just like a snake's tongue.) Only one hemipene has to become inserted in order to pass the genetic material (sperm). We've already spoken at length about the way females can store sperm for months (even years) and delay fertilization until they're physiologically ready for reproduction.
The mating event, itself, often appears harmful to the male, but it's not. In fact, it's a strategy that increases the male's likelihood of passing his genes to the next generation. His hemipenes have tiny little "hooks" that help to secure him to the female during mating. When the hemipenes engorge, the hooks have a rigid structure that causes them to grab onto the vaginal wall. This secure attachment prevents other males from dislodging him, and if you've ever seen pictures of a "mating ball," you'll realize how important that attachment can be for a creature with no arms and legs... that also happens to be surrounded by hundreds of other males trying to mate with the same female.
While the male is still attached, he delivers sperm and a sticky material that hardens and forms a "mating plug." This plug physically prevents other males from inserting their hemipenes after the (now parental) male's hemipene(s) are withdrawn from her cloaca. His semen also contains pheromones that cause the female to become "unattractive" to other males for 1-3 hours after fertilization. During that time, the pheromones between her dorsal scales begin to migrate back into her bloodstream. Her primary reproductive pheromone is called vitellogenin, and it's also the precursor protein for egg yolk. It's the same precursor that is found in the yolks of birds, reptiles, amphibians, and fish. This migration of vitellogenin causes her to become "unattractive" to other males, but it takes longer than the signal given off by his semen. See how they work together? His sperm has an immediate, but temporary effect, and the migration of her pheromone has a slower, but longer lasting effect.
Her ability to move around and pull the male is also an adaptive mechanism. It allows her to leave the area where hundreds of males may be swarming and allows her to take the male with her... without risking the loss of a successful fertilization event.
Thus, his ejaculate has an immediate effect that both plugs her uterus and releases pheromones that repel other males. Meanwhile, she pulls him away from other courting males. His mating plug also prevents other males from delivering their sperm (a selfish event on his part), and before the plug is dislodged, the pheromones that cause her to attract other males are mobilized into her bloodstream to be delivered to the developing embryo. Without trying to sound like a pervert, I think snake reproduction is a fascinating thing, and these pictures help to make it more tangible. I hope that you'll see it from a different perspective now, as well, but I understand that we're taught from an early age that reproduction in a vulgar event. It's a shame, really because those prejudices and our inability to discuss it, often leads to problems during human adolescence.
Rick
P.S. There's a lot more to say, but this post is already long enough ;).
Lulu Bennett
11-25-2007, 05:37 PM
lol rick thanks for the concern but i can promise you it takes alot more than that to offend me lol
i did promise mikhaila a mating vid of my garters because she had never seen it and neither had i lol.
as james said it is a fact of life lol
xxx
i honestly do find it interesting and facinating and i have seen alot worse reproduction on the discovery channel lol
but Thank you for your discription as it does help me to learn in more depth than just watching alone.
Cazador
11-25-2007, 05:47 PM
I'm just about all typed out, but I'm glad you're not offended. Best wishes,
Rick
anji1971
11-25-2007, 09:27 PM
lol sorry Anji, Minging= Horrible, disgusting lol
Ahhhh, now I've learned something too!!! Around here we use words such as.........well...... "horrible",and "disgusting".....!!!:D
The snake thing isn't, but walking in on your parents, yeah definitely "minging"!!;)
Lori P
11-26-2007, 12:55 PM
Rick, thanks SO much for the reproduction information-- I never knew the details, and how absolutely fascinating!!! :-)
CrazyHedgehog
11-26-2007, 02:59 PM
minging means more than just horrible or disgusting...
it means more "wouldn't touch them with a barge pole" eeeeeewwwwww!!:eek:
CrazyHedgehog
11-26-2007, 03:03 PM
Any relation to the word "minge"? ;) :D
yes apparently so.. ie as revoulting and unnatractive as pubic hair!!
oh we have the lovelyest of sayings! just be glad I am not from Caernarfon!!:eek: I can't repeat their catchphrase!
Lulu Bennett
11-28-2007, 10:08 AM
yes apparently so.. ie as revoulting and unnatractive as pubic hair!!
oh we have the lovelyest of sayings! just be glad I am not from Caernarfon!!:eek: I can't repeat their catchphrase!
just off the point, i was in Caernafon the other month. went camping. was fun (from what remember)!!
Charlet_2007
11-28-2007, 09:59 PM
That was rick on snake sex ed 101... thats was very interesting.. Here I was about to fall asleep and you knocked me back to being awake lol thanks for the info i have to tell my husband, he'll like the info too.
ConcinusMan
11-30-2010, 03:35 PM
So hey, Odie, what happened? any babies or did she do like some northwesterns, and mate without ovulating?
So hey, Odie, what happened? any babies ? Just Five, four stillborn then on the
third day, Five
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/IMG_0004.JPG
ConcinusMan
12-05-2010, 01:44 AM
Well, five is pretty typical litter size, but jeez, 4 stills?
The four were still in there eggsack :(
ConcinusMan
12-05-2010, 03:47 PM
Ordinoides give birth in very moist areas where there's plenty of humidity/dampness. An expected mother should always have a box with damp newspaper or paper towels but no water dish. IF they have no choice but to use very dry substrate or the humidity is low, the sack will dry out quickly and they'll get stuck and suffocate every time. I even have to mist them every minute or two after they come out and if you can't be there for the birth to help those that struggle, you'll lose a lot of them, if not all.
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