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shocked
11-12-2007, 09:20 AM
I haven't found any info. on what I witnessed, so I need input from folks who should know.........this summer, we were in the mountains of east tennessee and came across a garter snake with several young; we obviously startled the snake and the most amazing thing happened: she? opened her mouth and the young snakes went down her throat! I have lived in these mountains all my life and been told these snakes would do this, but I never believed it until I saw it with my own eyes.

KITKAT
11-12-2007, 10:56 PM
I haven't found any info. on what I witnessed, so I need input from folks who should know.........this summer, we were in the mountains of east tennessee and came across a garter snake with several young; we obviously startled the snake and the most amazing thing happened: she? opened her mouth and the young snakes went down her throat! I have lived in these mountains all my life and been told these snakes would do this, but I never believed it until I saw it with my own eyes.

I do not know if this is mouth brooding or not... never heard of it in snakes. However, I have definately seen it in fishes, and there is a species of fish that does this on a regular basis.;)

Serpentine99
11-16-2007, 06:15 PM
quite strange i think i read that in an old snake book from the 60's. they were trying to debunk the myth by saying people may have mistaken a rodent tail for the tails of young. ill have to go find the book

ssssnakeluvr
11-16-2007, 09:59 PM
I find it very unlikely...have never seen a documented case of it....generally, snakes are on their own once they are born. possibly a case of cannibalism mistaken for it...... I have seen videos of fish that protect their young that way, but no other animals....

Stefan-A
11-16-2007, 10:26 PM
Equine waste product, that's what I think of it. No offense. :)

zooplan
11-16-2007, 10:39 PM
May be you´ve disturbed an act of cannibalism?
That would be spectacular too but the only thinkable occurrence.

Cazador
11-17-2007, 08:04 PM
Unlike fishes and frogs that conduct mouth brooding, female snakes have ravenous appetites after giving birth. Garters secrete proteases that break down protein and would digest anything proteinaceous (like babies) that enter their mouth/esophagus/stomach. Mouth brooding fishes and frogs actually stop eating and turn off their protease secretion during parental care. Since locomotion is based on traction, the young wouldn't be able to leave the mother's mouth/esophagus/stomach after entering, and as mentioned, garters don't provide parental care. I think Stephan hit the nail on the head, and maybe Alice is having a little fun with us ;). Careful, Alice. I heard Bigfoot lurks in those woods, too :D.

Rick

zooplan
11-17-2007, 09:56 PM
Hi Rick,
why did you edit you post:D
I´had to think for an answere to that short version, now I´ve got to think about anther reply.
Also to the Bigfoot theory, there could have been another female thatcame along while the mother gave birth and took the occaion for an easy meal.
Hey Alice, was it a warm or a cold day?

Cazador
11-18-2007, 08:53 PM
I thought that in order to avoid a battle of words and opinions, I should provide a meaningful explanation for my statement :). Very entertaining story, though. I'm always up for a good "yarn" to be told around a campfire, and that's a good one... might need a few beers first, though ;).

CrazyHedgehog
11-19-2007, 06:53 AM
You don't believe in the yeti?
:eek:
in the early 20th century - if you said you'd seen a giant Panda then the same scorn would be passed as if youd seen a yeti!!
I bet you think the tooth fairy is a myth too!;)

salzar
11-19-2007, 10:19 AM
just because we never seen it does not meen it does not exsist.. like religon heeee haaa heee or the lock ness monster!!
bye
michelle

Cazador
11-19-2007, 01:13 PM
I bet you think the tooth fairy is a myth too!;)

Not me... I know the tooth fairy is real ;). She visits my daughters all the time :).

Stefan-A
11-19-2007, 01:16 PM
just because we never seen it does not meen it does not exsist.. like religon heeee haaa heee or the lock ness monster!!
bye
michelle
Whoa there. Plenty of people have seen the Loch Ness monster and various deities.

salzar
11-19-2007, 05:09 PM
with out plant help???... okay I take that back!!
heee haaa bye michelle

Lulu Bennett
11-19-2007, 05:13 PM
Whoa there. Plenty of people have seen the Loch Ness monster and various deities.

Yet not one single person has been able t get proof of this. :rolleyes:

adamanteus
11-19-2007, 05:15 PM
Didn't Ted Danson catch the Loch Ness Monster in the late 80's?

Lulu Bennett
11-19-2007, 05:18 PM
Didn't Ted Danson catch the Loch Ness Monster in the late 80's?

Ey?? I havn't seen that one and i have got a book about wierd things 'Mysteries, monsters and untold secrets' ;)

CrazyHedgehog
11-19-2007, 05:33 PM
I think hes taking the michael... Ted Danson is an actor.... usually does comedies...:o

Lulu Bennett
11-19-2007, 05:38 PM
I think hes taking the michael... Ted Danson is an actor.... usually does comedies...:o

i think i kinda realised that lol:p