help, problem?

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

ive recently stopped feeding my garters for burmation and what troubles me is when i hold the female she has skin flaps is this bad? ive only had them off feed for a bout a week, it sorta feels like theres nothing in her stomach like its sorta squishy, shes always ben on the skinnier side tho, she always did had a little skin flaps but only when i was holding her, i calculated she lost 4grams since the last time i weighed her which was like two and a half weeks, am i just being over paranoid?

[garterchick]

hi reed,
generally, if she's on the thin side anyway i wouldn't take her off feed. it doesn't sound like she can afford to loose any weight, but that's just my opinion.

[ssssnakeluvr]

yea, that does sound kinda bad....like a low body weight...wouldn't brumate on low body weight...post some pics. you still have some time left to fatten her up before the cold hits and you can brumate her.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

yea kk illl try to fatten her up.

yea, that does sound kinda bad....like a low body weight...wouldn't brumate on low body weight...post some pics. you still have some time left to fatten her up before the cold hits and you can brumate her.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

i cant go to the pet store till the weekend, what do u suggest feeding her to fatten her up, should i power feed, and how do i do that?, in the meantime i went outside and got tons of worms dropped em in her cage and they were gone in like 5 seconds

[ssssnakeluvr]

your gonna have a big mess....worms go thru fast and make a big mess!!! soon as you can, get pinkie rats....feed her a couple at a time a couple times a week for a month or so...should get her up to a decent body weight.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

pinkie rats? or mice?, and the males fine if i just burmate him will they mate?

your gonna have a big mess....worms go thru fast and make a big mess!!! soon as you can, get pinkie rats....feed her a couple at a time a couple times a week for a month or so...should get her up to a decent body weight.

[ssssnakeluvr]

she will need to be brumated to breed. pinkie mice..larger, fattier, will fatten her up.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

ok thats actually ok because i dont want my two pairs of snakes having their babies at the same time because that would be a lot to handle with all the other stuf i have to do, also for breeding how long should i burmate them?

she will need to be brumated to breed. pinkie mice..larger, fattier, will fatten her up.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

ok so my mom wont puts rats in the freezer so its gunna have to be fish/lizards on the weekdays and pinkies on the weekends, is that ok?

[ssssnakeluvr]

should be fine. normal brumation time is 3 months

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

ive just learned that the last owner used to feed it goldfish could this be why shes so skinny and how do i get her back on track?

[drache]

the goldfish may be partly responsible
if I were you I'd just fatten her up with good food
if it's breeding, you're worried about, you can kick in her hormones with a very short brumation period once she's in better shape

[zooplan]

Chicken hearts may be a good substitute to pinkie rats because its a human food source too.
I use it allways for my adult snakes in addition to fish and rodents.

[brandon0133]

when should u brumate these snakes? and what exsactly does that mean,,,,and how do u get them to mate?