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Bay_area
09-30-2007, 11:05 PM
I caught this red sided garter snake last week in Marin. I was taking my wife out to lunch when I seen it. It musked all over me, so I had to clean up before we could eat:rolleyes: I usually do not "bag" reptiles out of the wild, but this is the nicest garter I have ever caught. Someone refered me to this forum, so I thought I would check it out. I keep some other snakes, but I have not kept a gartersnake since I was a teen(30years ago) thanks for looking

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c306/norcalsnakemaster/tripsw_DeniseSept07-66.jpg
Bay_area
10-01-2007, 12:54 PM
It just ate a tree frog scented mouse:D. I was sooo excited to see it eat, I yelled to my wife, "Come look, it is eating!" She don't get how important that is:rolleyes:;)
zooplan
10-01-2007, 01:06 PM
It looks like painted
What size is it?
The pattern is really similar to a red spotted garter.
Thanks for sharing this rare sight!
Lori P
10-01-2007, 01:12 PM
That is a really beautiful snake! Congrats on finding him. Now send him here. LOL
Sid
10-01-2007, 01:48 PM
Very nice Garter and welcome to the forum.
Snaky
10-01-2007, 01:48 PM
Very intensely colored snake. Nice catch:)
adamanteus
10-01-2007, 03:03 PM
Nice snake Jerry. welcome to the forum.
drache
10-01-2007, 03:10 PM
Hi
welcome to this forum
I believe what you have there is actually a red spotted garter - either California or Oregon (Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis or T.s.concinnus respectively)
hard to tell which from the photo and either possible in Marin I think, but I'd vote for the infernalis
very nice snake
congrats
garterchick
10-01-2007, 03:55 PM
i agree with rhea, red-spotted instead of red-sided, and beautiful snake. welcome to the forum
Bay_area
10-01-2007, 04:35 PM
according to californiaherps.com Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis - California Red-sided Gartersnake (http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/t.s.infernalis.html)

the snake is a California red sided garter, Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis

Thank you,
Bay_Area
Ameivaboy
10-01-2007, 05:53 PM
that is definatley infernalis.

Where in marin did you catch that beauty??

I usually find nice looking infernalis around china camp and point reyes but never any that are that nice
Bay_area
10-01-2007, 07:39 PM
that is definatley infernalis.

Where in marin did you catch that beauty??


In the parking lot of a restraunt bar that we stopped @ for oysters. I sure am glad my wife bugged me to stop:cool:

Sorry, but that is about the best clue I will give up on the location.;)
drache
10-01-2007, 08:21 PM
according to californiaherps.com Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis - California Red-sided Gartersnake (http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/t.s.infernalis.html)

the snake is a California red sided garter, Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis

Thank you,
Bay_Area

that's fine too
since we are talking about the same snake
now i realize they are called that as well
with the state name in front of it, that makes it clearer
when you call it just a red-sided, I think you mean T.s.parietalis - hence the confusion
enigma200316
10-01-2007, 08:53 PM
[quote=Bay_area;28039]according to californiaherps.com Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis - California Red-sided Gartersnake (http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/t.s.infernalis.html)

the snake is a California red sided garter, Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis


I agree, deff. an infernalis.................:)
Bay_area
10-01-2007, 08:57 PM
that's fine too
since we are talking about the same snake
now i realize they are called that as well
with the state name in front of it, that makes it clearer
when you call it just a red-sided, I think you mean T.s.parietalis - hence the confusion

Maybe I should of titled it with the scientific name rather than the common name. That is why it is so important to have the scientific name when ordering snakes.

I also looked in the Peterson Field Guide by Robert Stebbins. It too calls the snake California Red-sided Garter Snake.

Also, I would like to say thank you for the warm welcome from everyone.:)
enigma200316
10-01-2007, 09:00 PM
sorry almost forgot:owelcome to the forum............:)
ssssnakeluvr
10-01-2007, 09:40 PM
yes..infernalis.....very nice one too..
GarterGuy
10-02-2007, 12:12 AM
Very nice infernalis Jerry. Like how much red it's got.....very pretty. Oh, and welcome to the forum as well. If you ever breed that bad boy, think I know someplace some babies can go.:rolleyes:
Odie
10-02-2007, 04:28 AM
Hi, from Oregon, Jerry :)
I agree beautiful snake :mad::D
Bay_area
10-02-2007, 08:57 AM
If you ever breed that bad boy, think I know someplace some babies can go.:rolleyes:


I hope to get out there again this week to hopefully find a mate:rolleyes: You would just have to come to California to pick up the garters offspring, since legally I would have to gift them out "in" California;)
Ameivaboy
10-02-2007, 10:50 AM
I hope to get out there again this week to hopefully find a mate:rolleyes: You would just have to come to California to pick up the garters offspring, since legally I would have to gift them out "in" California;)

"legally speaking", you would need a permit to even legally breed them. and legally speaking you need a fishing license to even capture them ;)
Lulu Bennett
10-02-2007, 01:55 PM
welcome to the forum sweety and that is a very fine infernalis you have there. you are a lucky bugger to find one with such a viberant colour. i am green with envy!
Bay_area
10-02-2007, 05:53 PM
[quote=Ameivaboy;28091 legally speaking you need a fishing license to even capture them ;)[/quote]

I have a fishing licence, get one every year;).