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EdgyExoticReptiles
09-24-2007, 06:46 PM
besides garters are active and eat fish/stips of trout?

RZL36
09-24-2007, 06:55 PM
Nerodia (watersnakes) eat a lot of fish, but in my experience they are not all that active. They also get pretty big, crap everywhere and bite a lot. I think some of the folks on this forum keep them and can probably give you a totally different first-hand account of nerodia keeping. This is just my opinion.

I've also heard of Aheetulla (Asian vine snakes) eating fish. They are not at all active and are nearly impossible to keep alive if they are not the center of your attention.

If you leave agkistrodon out of the equation (as you should). I think that sums it up.

Anyone else want to throw their hat in?;)

EdgyExoticReptiles
09-24-2007, 07:41 PM
any1 else know of any?

Snaky
09-25-2007, 01:06 AM
Natrix species and xenochrophis. I don't have first hand experience with any of them :)

Natrix are pretty much kept the same way as thamnophis, but I think that you can't get to them that easily.

Xenochrophis are most of the time wildcaught animals.

drache
09-25-2007, 05:15 AM
my xenochrophis prefer pinkie at this point
I'm fortunate in that my plated lizards will eat anything my snakes leave - including fish

RZL36
09-25-2007, 07:07 AM
Oh good call Snaky, I am so Americentric (not a word). I totally forgot about the European ones.

Anthon
09-25-2007, 10:18 AM
Nerodia (watersnakes) eat a lot of fish, but in my experience they are not all that active. They also get pretty big, crap everywhere and bite a lot. I think some of the folks on this forum keep them and can probably give you a totally different first-hand account of nerodia keeping. This is just my opinion.

Well.. ;) Of course, all the snakes are different individuals, but my (not-so-big) experiences of this species (N. fasciata) is not that bad. My snake is active in daytimes and even when she's sleeping she's laying in the middle of the terrarium, not hidden at all. :D But yeah, they seem to be a bit more aggressive than most of the garters. My water snake bites only when I'm taking it off from the terrarium when there is somewhere smelling a fish. But when handling, she's very calm and not aggressive at all.

RZL36
09-25-2007, 10:29 AM
Sounds about right. Everyone will have different experiences (sometimes with the same snake). Watersnakes are fan interesting keep, that's for sure.

Had a WC Northern when I was a kid. Meanest thing ever, but that's how wild caught usually are. I was about 12 when i found it and it never settled down. I lost interest in having it bite me, so i set it free where I found it.

Anthon
09-25-2007, 11:09 AM
Meanest thing ever, but that's how wild caught usually are.

Yes, I think there's often a big difference between wild-caught and captive-bred (water) snakes. My one is born in captivity. ;)

Thamnophis
09-25-2007, 11:13 AM
Rhabdophis species (formerly named Natrix). This are Asian snakes.
Ik kept in the eighties Rhabdophis tigrinus and that is one pretty snake.
But watch out! They are more "venenous" than Thamnophis, Natrix and Nerodia!
Rhabdophis subminiatus even killed someone.
I haven't seen them for a long time in the trade.
I think that when I would find a few in a shop or on an expo I will not be abled to resist them.

This is a Rhabdophis tigrinus...

http://gdimension.typepad.com/./photos/uncategorized/adultsnake.jpg

http://lazovzap.dvo.ru/pictures/rhabtigr.jpg

RZL36
09-25-2007, 11:38 AM
Also, slightly venomous and fish-eating, hydrodynastes gigas. The South American false water cobra

ssssnakeluvr
09-25-2007, 12:02 PM
i used to have a tiger keelback, rhabdophis tigrinus, ate fish for 4 years and did fine.

RZL36
09-25-2007, 12:26 PM
Those are very, very pretty snakes. New Jersey is a little rough on snakes. Not even "rear-fanged." What's a boy to do? I really want to get some Madagascan cat eyed snakes, but can't push the envelope and if I did I couldn't even tell anyone about it. As for permits, forget it. Not possible.

RZL36
09-25-2007, 12:27 PM
Thamnophis, those are really pretty snakes.

enigma200316
09-25-2007, 01:31 PM
Thamnophis, those are really pretty snakes.


hahahahaha.......................:rolleyes::D

ssssnakeluvr
09-25-2007, 05:06 PM
yea, Utah is the same way, no to most rear fanged snakes......:( picky sh*ts!! I couldn't get another rhabdophis....was a very nice snake too!!!

adamanteus
09-25-2007, 05:10 PM
That Rhabdophis tigrinus is really beautiful.....I've never kept this genus. But I would like to!:D

enigma200316
09-25-2007, 06:53 PM
kool looking snake.....Thamnophis

ssssnakeluvr
09-25-2007, 09:54 PM
I had one I brought back from Korea....she was a nice snake...very calm.