PDA

View Full Version : Grammar class



RZL36
09-19-2007, 05:52 PM
Should I italicize scientific names? Do they have to be? I've seen it both ways. Was English major, but this out of my range.

adamanteus
09-19-2007, 06:01 PM
I don't think it really matters (here, anyway). I always use italics when using scientific names, I believe it to be standard practice...but I'm sure it's not compulsory! Many people don't use scientific names at all.

Lori P
09-19-2007, 06:07 PM
Many people can't remember the common names, forget the scientific names... heck, many people can't remember what they had for breakfast this morning.... :-) :-)

adamanteus
09-19-2007, 06:14 PM
I think the use of scientific names is good practice....common names can vary so much, they can be local, regional, national or simply 'made up' (Golden Garter?!!!) If you use the recognised scientific name everyone knows what you're talking about, there can be no confusion. Whether or not you use italics...I can't see why that matters...I just do.

RZL36
09-19-2007, 08:06 PM
Thanks James

GrapefruiTgirl
09-19-2007, 08:48 PM
I agree that if nothing else, it would be beneficial to others to atleast (when appropriate) identify your own pet's scientific name so that we might slooooowly learn some more scientific names :) of the snakes we personally do not have/have in our area.
As to whether they're italicized, or in brackets or whatever, it doesn't really matter, but it is good practice. Italics can help readers subconsciously skip over the scientific part too, if they choose to 'read around it'.
After much hesitation and mind-changing, I have finally determined that my snaky must be a 'Maritime Garter' (thamnophis sirtalis pallidulus) :rolleyes: .

enigma200316
09-19-2007, 08:52 PM
where is the pics did I miss them.............:confused:

GrapefruiTgirl
09-19-2007, 08:59 PM
Are you asking me, enigma? If so, I haven't taken any yet. Just finished installing some digital camera software on my machine, so I can download from this camera. It works great, but Snaky isn't out and about tonight, so hopefully tomorrow. :)

Stefan-A
09-19-2007, 11:15 PM
Should I italicize scientific names? Do they have to be? I've seen it both ways. Was English major, but this out of my range.
Yes, but I don't think that many will be upset if you don't. ;) And don't forget, only the genus begins with a capital letter.

drache
09-20-2007, 06:38 AM
I'd just like to add that it amuses me no end when I see lengthy discussions about which latin name is now correct for some kingsnake or chiclid when some scientists decide that they now belong to a different species, and nobody knows what the heck is going on and if you get a book that's new or too old . . .
but I agree
on the whole there's quite a bit more consensus on use of scientific names
they're just not entirely free of controversy either

enigma200316
09-20-2007, 07:26 AM
Are you asking me, enigma? If so, I haven't taken any yet. Just finished installing some digital camera software on my machine, so I can download from this camera. It works great, but Snaky isn't out and about tonight, so hopefully tomorrow. :)


oh ok I wasn't sure if I missed them or not, I mean its a big thing here to see pics of everyones herps and all..........:D so get them up, just kidding
when you get'em up you get'em up.......can't wait to see them though..:D

RZL36
09-20-2007, 07:36 AM
Yeah, I know what you mean. We are kind of lucky in that we usually talk of garters, but if we were talking about South American snakes (those with a million regional names), we would need to use the latin names. I find it the easiest way to figure things out. Plus I just love what they mean when you dissect them a little bit.:)

Drache, are you from the German quarter of Bed-Sty?;)

drache
09-20-2007, 07:49 AM
Drache, are you from the German quarter of Bed-Sty?;)

no
I hail from the lovely green Odenwald region (near Heidelberg) and was transplanted into Brooklyn at the tender age of 20 - uprooted several times, now living right between the two largest areas of green in Brooklyn

RZL36
09-20-2007, 08:27 AM
Brooklyn is wonderful (Still got some of my Italian family there). If you need a ride to Hamburg, just take the shore line out of Penn and get off at Hazlet. I live down the street.

Take care,
RD

Stefan-A
09-20-2007, 10:28 AM
I'd just like to add that it amuses me no end when I see lengthy discussions about which latin name is now correct for some kingsnake or chiclid when some scientists decide that they now belong to a different species, and nobody knows what the heck is going on and if you get a book that's new or too old . . .
but I agree
on the whole there's quite a bit more consensus on use of scientific names
they're just not entirely free of controversy either
It's a scientific name, which isn't necessarily latin. ;)

Still, I agree that it's amusing. Nothing is funnier than a subspecies being declared an independent species, though. ;)

drache
09-20-2007, 11:10 AM
It's a scientific name, which isn't necessarily latin. ;)

Still, I agree that it's amusing. Nothing is funnier than a subspecies being declared an independent species, though. ;)

well some of them seem to go back and forth too - at least in the fish world

personally I wonder whether there is perhaps a limit to how precisely everything can be subjected to an absolute scientific order after all
I know I know
it's only a small step from a thought like that to absolute anarchy and rioting in the streets

Stefan-A
09-20-2007, 11:20 AM
well some of them seem to go back and forth too - at least in the fish world

personally I wonder whether there is perhaps a limit to how precisely everything can be subjected to an absolute scientific order after all
I know I know
it's only a small step from a thought like that to absolute anarchy and rioting in the streets
I think it would be absurd to assume that the current classification is the ultimate truth anyway, "they" can't always even agree what sets two species apart. The system only works as a tool to describe how they are related, it's not perfect.

I bet Rick will show up and correct me any minute now. ;)