From Hamm

[Stefan-A]

I figured we really only need one more Hamm-related thread, so if you bought anything at the show, post those pictures here.


Just picked up these two girls (Thamnophis elegans vagrans). They were curled up in the box when I first saw them, and my first thought was: "Where's the rest of you?" Damn they looked tiny. Once I got them home, I realized my prepared terrarium really was unnecessarily big (70 litres), so they'll be living in that ~10 litre faunarium for a day or two. They didn't look that small once they started moving around.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nusnakes1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nusnakes2.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nusnakes3.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nusnakes4.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nusnakes5.jpg

[zooplan]

nice littele snake

[Stefan-A]

Definitely the calmest garters I've seen so far. :D

[Elliot]

Nice Stefan, you can't go wrong with those!:)

[Snaky]

They look great, very nice.

Their size always surprises me, I bought also some newborns and wow they look tiny. But it's fun to have them this small and watch them mature:)

[Anthon]

Nice looking snakes, Stefan! :D I will get my radix-newborn today evening. Did you see it already? ;)

[enigma200316]

Very nice Stefan, can't wait to watch them grow...........:)

[adamanteus]

Beautiful snakes, Stefan. Congratulations. They'll soon grow in your care.:)

I got my 1.1 pickeringii this morning. The male is lovely, but to be honest I'm a little disappointed with the female....she really is tiny, smaller than your vagrans Stefan, and about a third the bulk of the male, this worries me because she's four months old!!:eek:. She is quite thin, in fact she has a lateral fold either side of her body on the posterior quarter. She seems active and curious enough, so she should be okay, but not at all what I expected or hoped for.:(

[Anthon]

Well, here's my female-radix baby ^^

Sorry for the bad pics.

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/9987/hirmuhw1.jpg

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1336/hirmu2xs1.jpg

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8595/hirmu3ix8.jpg

[adamanteus]

The pics are fine, Anthon.:) She'll be a fine looking snake when she sheds that skin.:D

[Anthon]

looking snake when she sheds that skin.:D

Are you sure it will happen? ;) I thought it was just the camera lighting which made her eyes blue, but yeah I'm not sure.

[adamanteus]

Oh right, maybe it's the camera....I just thought she looked as though she was due to slough.

[Stefan-A]

Nice looking snakes, Stefan! I will get my radix-newborn today evening. Did you see it already?
No, she just brought mine to the front door.


Beautiful snakes, Stefan. Congratulations. They'll soon grow in your care.

I got my 1.1 pickeringii this morning. The male is lovely, but to be honest I'm a little disappointed with the female....she really is tiny, smaller than your vagrans Stefan, and about a third the bulk of the male, this worries me because she's four months old!!. She is quite thin, in fact she has a lateral fold either side of her body on the posterior quarter. She seems active and curious enough, so she should be okay, but not at all what I expected or hoped for.
Thanks.

I saw a caramel corn snake maybe half a year ago, that was at about 7 months just a little bit bigger than my babies are. :eek: Allegedly it had fed normally, but just didn't grow at the same rate as the others.

[Gijs & Sabine]

Today I finally took some pics of our new snakes. One of them are some radix snow. A good friend of ours has ordered garters from Amerika and we picked up our snows in Hamm.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010246Small-1.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010254Small-3.jpg

And.......our first non-garters: Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri !!!!
We're very happy we found them. In the first place we were looking for some juvenile kings. But then we found this adult couple. And later we found another very nice younger female.
So here are the pics (specialy for garterguy;))

The biggest female:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010224Small-1.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010226Small-2.jpg

[Gijs & Sabine]

And this is the male, we absolutely love him.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010233Small-4.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010240Small-3.jpg

And this is the younger female, we like her also a lot........actualy we like em all very much :D
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010241Small-3.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010244Small.jpg

[Lori P]

Oh WOW they are all gorgeous!!! I really like the kingsnakes. Congrats on all of them!!!!

[adamanteus]

Beautiful snakes, Sabine. Congratulations!:D

[enigma200316]

Awsome snakes thanks for sharing..............:)

[Snaky]

Some very nice additions Gijs & Sabine, congrats with them :)

[zooplan]

I´ve got some tiny babies from the same shipment as Gijs&Sabine ´s snows just before Hamm.
http://www.zooplan.net/images/male.jpg
They are red sideds off course:D

[Snaky]

Also nice additions Udo :)

[drache]

wow
everybody's got such amazingly beautiful new snakes
congrats you all

[Thamnophis]

Your visit at Hamm was a good thing for all of you.
Very pretty, all these snakes!

[Gijs & Sabine]

What a suprise you've got red sided's, Udo :D
They are very pretty, congrats on them.

[ssssnakeluvr]

all are nice looking!!!! wanderings are definitely mellow...I have them all over around here!!!!

[reptileparadise]

very nice additions!

Somehow, I love albino red sideds! They're a bit expensive for me, but some day...

[Stefan-A]

all are nice looking!!!! wanderings are definitely mellow...I have them all over around here!!!!
Not so mellow today. It was feeding day today and I got a serious reminder why it would be better to feed them separately.

[drache]

Not so mellow today. It was feeding day today and I got a serious reminder why it would be better to feed them separately.
wow
that must be a species character trait then
mine is the mellowest snake - except when it comes to food
she's my absolutely top aggressive feeder

[ssssnakeluvr]

all the wanderings I have are not aggressive feeders....just real mellow snakes....I have seen an occasional aggressive one in the wild. my best feeders are my eastern and red spots!

[zooplan]

very nice additions!

Somehow, I love albino red sideds! They're a bit expensive for me, but some day...

Those most red red sideds like you hold backs are very rare too;)

[Anthon]

She'll be a fine looking snake when she sheds that skin.:D

You were right. :D She shed yesterday.

[GarterGuy]

And this is the male, we absolutely love him.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010233Small-4.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010240Small-3.jpg

And this is the younger female, we like her also a lot........actualy we like em all very much :D
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010241Small-3.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/P1010244Small.jpg

Great looking snakes guys! Love your male, nice almost L.alterna pattern on him. Very pretty little female too, love the light centers of the saddles and the really light, almost jagged banding of the white. Very good finds, hope you guys really enjoy them and can't wait to see what babies you get out of them.:D

Roy

[chloe]

I will take some pictures of the garters i bought in Hamm today. Just about recovered from the journey.

[reptileparadise]

Would love to see some of your new ones ;) How are they doing?

[chloe]

A bit late posting my pictures of the snakes i bought in Hamm, my camera broke and i have just got a new one, so here goes.

This first picture is of a sirtalis sirtalis 66% possible het for leutistic from Scott felzer and a Quad hets plains.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//576/medium/argentina_031.jpg

[chloe]

Flame 66 % possible het for leutisitic from Scott Felzer

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//576/medium/argentina_033.jpg

[chloe]

3 more quad het plains from Scott Felzer

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//576/medium/argentina_039.jpg

[chloe]

and finally a picture of the beautiful Red sided garters from Sjoerd.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//576/medium/argentina_011.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Very nice snakes. :) And it's never too late to post pictures. ;)

[adamanteus]

Nice additions, Chloe. The parietalis from Sjoerd look very nice!

[anji1971]

This is the first time I've seen this thread, and I must say, the whole bunch of you have some beee-yoootiful snakies!!! :):)

[Snaky]

Never to late for pictures, Chloe;)
Some very nice additions!

[zooplan]

Nice collection, even if you had no others:D
What meal is served on the photos?
Salmon and mice?

[drache]

beautiful babies
you did really well

question:
does Scott actually come to Hamm, or does somebody import his garters and sells them for him there?

[zooplan]

we had an omnibus order
Hamm was only a nice occaion to distribute the snakes among the different participants

[chloe]

The food in the pictures is trout and picky pieces.