help please!

[Snake_Freak]

hello
i need some help
i think my snake is sick because normally when i check is enclosure en i get too close hea is scared en takes off very quik but when i last checked he didnt even respond and is now very slow and doesnt eat en it looks like he has a split tung

can somebody please help me ? schould i go directly to a vet ?

(sorry for the bad english because i am from holland )

Grtz Seppe

[Elliot]

He may be about to shed, and if you mean he has a split tounge, all garters have split tounges.

[zooplan]

What speci do you keep?
What size(length and weight) is it?
What does happen when you take it in your hand?
Wenn Du besser Deutsch kannst schreib in Deutsch,
da English auch nicht meine Muttersprache ist habe ich besondere Probleme mit Deinen Rechtschreibfehlern.

[Snake_Freak]

no i know for sure that he wont shed because i knowit when he does an with i split tung i mean really a split tung nog just i little bit split but the tung is then almost whole split al my snakes dont have that and this one didnt have either
and he doestn move well either a bit shocky ( i dont know how to explain it in english)

[Snake_Freak]

uhh it is a thamnophis sauritus
and when i take in my hand it strugles a little bit and normally it would strugle a lot its now just very slow and its about 80 cm long its a male and about 4 or 5 years old

[Lulu Bennett]

my checkereds tend to get slow when they are due to shed.

[zooplan]

when did you check him last time with every thing was all right?

[Snaky]

I've never had anything like what you described, certainly not a split tongue. The 'shocky' movement is rather alarming for me. I've had something similar with a snake and that did not end well .If you can I would see a specialised vet.

Does he reponds if you touch him/handle him? When was the first time you noticed this? Don't stress him out though...

If you want I can translate into english if you can say it better in Dutch.

Nederlands:
Bij mij is er nog nooit iets voorgevallen wat jij beschrijft, zeker niet een tong die gesplitst is. De 'schokkende' bewegingen zijn echter geen goed teken voor mij. Iets gelijkaardig heb ik ook gehad bij een slang en dat is toen niet goedgekomen. Als je kan zou ik een specialist opzoeken.

Wat doet hij als je hem aanraakt/hanteert? Wanneer heb je dit gedrag het eerste gemerkt? Probeer hem echter niet te veel te stressen als hij echt niet reageert.

Als je wilt kan je ook Nederlands posten en kan ik kijken of ik het beter kan vertalen...

[Snake_Freak]

a week ago about tree days ago i saw him lying langout in his enclosure en the day after he was still laying that way so i checke and then i noticed that he was verry slow and he moved nog good

[Snake_Freak]

ik kan het engels ook wel lezen maakt mij niet zoveel uit
nee hij reageerd nauwelijks als ik hem hanteer en normaal laat ik hem gewoon met rust dus als ik hem dan hanteer dan wil hij perse weg en nu is dat niet het geval

[Snake_Freak]

maar hj houd zijn kop ook de hele tijd een klein beetje scheef en dat is normaal niet zo

[Snaky]

nee hij reageerd nauwelijks als ik hem hanteer en normaal laat ik hem gewoon met rust dus als ik hem dan hanteer dan wil hij perse weg en nu is dat niet het geval

maar hj houd zijn kop ook de hele tijd een klein beetje scheef en dat is normaal niet zo
He barely reacts if I handle him and usually I leave him be. So if I used to handle him he just wants to flee and this is not the case now.

He also keeps his head a bit sideways, which is normally not the case.



Does it seems like he has a congestion/ does he has a bult or something like that?

I can't say that I know the behaviour, but would still do my first advice to see a vet if you have the possibility...

[Snake_Freak]

no he doenst have anything abnormal at his body i checked its really odd behavior and he doest go up anymore it is if he cant do that and yesterday when i noticed this i immediatley put him in an other enclosure away from the other two in is enclosure and when i tried to feed him a fish he just sucked the moist offthe fish so i held his head close to water and he drinked for alomst 1 minute could that be the cause of this dehydration??

[zooplan]

You should visit a vet as early as possible.
I´m quiet sure that your snake is ill.
I don´t want to guess what it is because that won´t help, but is serious!

[Snaky]

It's possible, I've not had a dehydrated snake before that I know off. Does he has a water bowl at his enclosure all the time? If he has, it would be very strange if it's dehydration If it's dehydration, I would suspect that he would get better quite soon if he drinks that much. Of course, make sure that he has easy access to water, but I think you've probably that covered.

[zooplan]

dehydration of an adult snake would take some weeks untill the effects are as serious as written.

[adamanteus]

I would recommend that you visit a specialist vet as soon as possible. The situation does not sound good. What type of fish have you been feeding him?

[Lulu Bennett]

i think everyone is right you should see a vet asap

[Snake_Freak]

than i will go to a vet
i will keep you updated thank you all for your advice

grtz snake

[Snake_Freak]

hello i just discovered a really small bult in the middle of of my snake i really dont know what it is and i will go visit a vet

[Snaky]

Fingers crossed that it isn't a congestion and that the vet will be able to help you.

[Lulu Bennett]

good luck hun my love goes with you xxx

[Snake_Freak]

Hello
i have a problem again
my snake recovered almost he only didn eat for a weak so i thougt he was ok again because he was behaving normal but no i checked and i found 5 or 6 strange lumps on his body does somebody know what they are and what i should do they are a bit white

grtz Seppe

[Odie]

Will need pic's :o

[Snake_Freak]

i have another thread of this subject the title is Need urgent advice there is one pic but is verry bad because its sow hard to make pictures of it