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Ameivaboy
09-15-2007, 02:53 PM
Took this picture while I was headed off for work yesterday and seems the male has been persistantly on the female, I havent seen any actual copulation but sure seems he's been trying, Any one have any thoughts on this??

I'm going to weigh her weekly to look for weight gains etc
I was going to brumate her and the male but if she ends up being gravid again that's a no go. Seems odd that she would be ready so soon after giving birth in july.


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/Ameivaboy/DSC02255.jpg

enigma200316
09-15-2007, 02:57 PM
maybe everything for them is at a just right atmospher..........:)

one things for sure, time will tell...............

EdgyExoticReptiles
09-15-2007, 03:04 PM
nice snakess

Stefan-A
09-15-2007, 03:20 PM
Here are my thoughts. ;)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/mateattempt-aug06.jpg

August '06

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/mateattempt-dec06.jpg

December '06

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/mateattempt-may07.jpg

May '07

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/matesuccess-may07.jpg

May '07




Those are just a few of the pictures I had in my archives. What's happening there, is that the male kept pursuing the female. Basically, the male was always in the mood and displayed courtship behavior as long as they were kept together, no matter what time of year it was. The female however didn't play along until May this year.

Lori P
09-15-2007, 03:25 PM
"I was going to brumate her"

Define for me please??? :-)

Stefan-A
09-15-2007, 03:27 PM
"I was going to brumate her"

Define for me please??? :-)
Put her in hibernation.

Lori P
09-15-2007, 03:29 PM
Ah!! Thanks!! I would like to go brumate now for an hour or two.... :-)

Snaky
09-16-2007, 08:46 AM
Both cyrtopsis and concinnus are also breeding here, already for 1-1,5 months now. I can be that they have some late season clutches, but then they should've started earlier than this. 1-1,5 months is just to late normally. So I also think the males where just in the right mood:rolleyes:

Lulu Bennett
09-16-2007, 11:05 AM
i have also been seeing the same action between my t.marcianus. he has been trying to 'get his leg over' for the last 2 months lol i dont think he has get his way though lol

adamanteus
09-16-2007, 01:09 PM
I have known Garters breed "off season" in the past. I have had marcianus in particular mate very late in the year.

drache
09-16-2007, 01:49 PM
my vet says that some species of garters have second mating seasons in late summer
I forgot about the details
but I'm not sure when they end up having the babies

garterchick
09-16-2007, 07:07 PM
if she is gravid, would brumation cause a problem? i have a pair of flames that have been doing this once a month or so for over a year but never got gravid.

ssssnakeluvr
09-16-2007, 08:47 PM
she might not become gravid from his attempts...generally (not always) they have to brumate before being able to get prego.....some garters (I have read) will breed in the fall, but not sure if they will become gravid from that breeding or the spring breeding when they emerge from brumation.

Ameivaboy
09-16-2007, 08:52 PM
Brumation is my concern, Not only for health reasons, also because I want my female to become gravid next year along with brumating all my temperate species saves me bundles of money on heating,lighting,feeding and just time in general.

adamanteus
09-17-2007, 01:16 AM
Of course the females of some species/sub-species will store the sperm over the winter and then self fertilize in the spring, after brumation. I don't know if this is true of concinnus though.