Other pets (pics and discussions)

[snakehill]

My tegus were very healthy, active, they ate well, had free range for part of the day (with a warm spot available of course!) They appeared to be very happy if that is possible (apparently you don't believe this IS possible) You're right! I am sure your animals are much happier living in a tub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad: I'm still trying to figure out why you keep referring to age. I rehomed them because I gave up my reptile room because we were rescuing farm animals and had to focus on them. I have no idea how long they lived or if they are even still alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Millinex]

You know it is my opinion that you are a POMPOUS know it all! I was reading your posts and I saw that you referred to chickens as creatures that possess reasoning abilities. I have lived on a farm long enough to know that you KNOW NOTHING about CHICKENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would say a GARTER SNAKE is much smarter than a CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
All the information I am giving you can be readily found on any decent tegu forum or care sheet that is worth its salt. As for your other comment. I grew up on a farm, I moved to the city and I still have 6 chickens of my own, and I take care of over 20 daily. I also work with a couple locally that are shape trained and extremely intelligent.
Clearly you never took the time with your chickens, as if you once again use the magic search engine google- you will find plenty of examples of chickens being trained.


Millinex,
Ever thought about helping someone rather than trashing them?
Seems like if someone isn't as knowledgeable as you they're not worth your trouble.
I'm sure you've made some mistakes along the way, as all of us have.
Might be better to educate as a way to help future reptiles and their owners.
Anyone who gets a large reptile such as a tegu, iguana, monitor, etc and treats it like a dog and denies it proper husbandry is not worth "helping". They didn't bother to do research on the commitment of the animal before hand. If snake rehomed the tegus, admitted he didn't keep them properly and THEN asked for advice I'd be glad to help, however if he comes on a forum bragging about blatant bad husbandry and ignoring all logic - I'm not going to be buddy buddy with him.

[Millinex]

My tegus were very healthy, active, they ate well, had free range for part of the day (with a warm spot available of course! They appeared to be very happy if that is possible (apparently you don't believe this IS possible) You're right! I am sure your animals are much happier living in a tub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:
Again, how long did they live? I never said TEGUS could not be happy, I said snakes can not be happy. I have personally witnessed problem solving/reasoning abilities with my monitors multiple times.

If you took the time to read, you would realize my posts where about keeping SNAKES in tubs. Not tegus nor monitors. All of my monitors have spacious cages and are extremely well taken care of.

[snakehill]

Do us all a favor and "shut the door" if you know what I mean!:mad::mad::mad:!!!!!

[Millinex]

Do us all a favor and "shut the door" if you know what I mean!:mad::mad::mad:!!!!!
Block me if you don't like it. I'm not going to condone your bad husbandry or allow you to brag about it on any level. I'm going to call you on it every time like it or not.

[snakehill]

Maybe we should PM each other! This could get nasty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: PS I'm not a he!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Millinex]

Maybe we should PM each other! This could get nasty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feel free. The sad part is you'd rather resort to attacks and insults rather than learning from experience and taking my advice on how to properly house a tegu. Clearly you know more than the hundreds of people keeping and breeding these animals not to mention the field studies of these animals.

Clearly one guy keeping his differently and he's the one doing it right! You're no better than "dancingwithsavs".

[snakehill]

WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: BLAH,BLAH BLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Millinex]

WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: BLAH,BLAH BLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Tegu Community Forums (http://www.thetegu.com/)

Feel free to ask there how they feel about letting a Tegu Free roam all of the time. They'll tell you the same thing as I am, I suspect.

[guidofatherof5]

It's going to get locked down at some point.
There are also worse things than that.
Just a word to the wise.

[snakehill]

SORRY STEVE!:o

[d_virginiana]

You know, coming from the person who stuck up for a kid who blatantly didn't do his research on garters, killed a couple, and sold the rest (I stuck up for him too) you sure are being more harsh than helpful. Lambasting someone for something that happened in the past that you aren't even fully informed about is just counterproductive. It makes people even less likely to listen to any good tips you could give that might help out some animals, which sucks because you do seem to know what you're talking about.

No one slammed me when I showed up here and admitted to having done some things wrong raising my snake. They just gave me advice, and now I've changed a lot of the things about how I care for him. (He deserves more credit for it than I do, but he *is* over the average life expectancy of a garter snake btw :D )


Again, how long did they live? I never said TEGUS could not be happy, I said snakes can not be happy. I have personally witnessed problem solving/reasoning abilities with my monitors multiple times.

If you took the time to read, you would realize my posts where about keeping SNAKES in tubs. Not tegus nor monitors. All of my monitors have spacious cages and are extremely well taken care of.


You know, this sounds a bit like you're bragging about the difference in the quality of care you give your monitors and garters... I sort of agreed with you on how snakes could respond to environmental stimulation a while back, but not any more. I recently got my snake a larger, well-decorated enclosure, and whether or not he is 'happy' is anyone's guess, but he is definitely more active, and is always moving about as opposed to almost zero activity before.

[guidofatherof5]

SORRY STEVE!:o

No apology needed.
I've got nothing to do with it.
Just wanted all parties involved to know it will probably happen.

[d_virginiana]

SORRY STEVE!:o

lol, me as well. While I was writing my response about 9 other comments got posted! :rolleyes:

[snakehill]

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p

[ConcinusMan]

Wow. Those copperheads are just astounding. And I didn't even know scaleless snakes existed!

Recessive mutation and extremely rare/expensive. There are scaleless corn snakes too.

Wow, those white stackable enclosures are like, my dream setup. Wow! Nice!

Makes my setups look "ghetto" LoL.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg36/scaled.php?server=36&filename=setups010large.jpg&res=medium

[Stefan-A]

This conversation stops here, or it gets erased completely. If you have anything to say, do it in private.

[jere000]

I decided to post up some pictures of the boas I own.I figured you guys would enjoy them snakes are snakes right?I'm just going through my photobucket and posting the pics I have in there so they're in no particular order.
This is an 09 female pastel.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/008-9.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/022-4.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/023-3.jpg
My male Suriname.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/018-3.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/019-6.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/021-5.jpg
....

[jere000]

Same animal going through dark phase.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/014-1.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/017-2.jpg
This little girl popped up in the litter I had back in February.I can't wait to breed her and see if this is genetic.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/003-14.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/004-12.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/010-11.jpg

[jere000]

This is her sister that I kept because she was a premie.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/029-5.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/030-2.jpg
My female Guyana.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/025-2.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/026-3.jpg

[jere000]

My 07 hypo motley female.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/003-12.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/004-10.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/007-10.jpg
My big girl the mother of my litter from February.She's getting close to 7 feet long at 5 years old.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/008-6.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/009-3.jpg

[jere000]

My male Salmon the father of my litter from February.He's in a tub with my hypo motley girl while I was cleaning in these pics.He realized she was a female and went into breeding mode haha.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/009-6.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere900/010-14.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/011-6.jpg
Lastly my male motley.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/040-2.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking beautiful snakes.

Just a heads up, this thread will probably be moved to the "Other pet(non-garter)" thread.

[jere000]

Great looking beautiful snakes.

Just a heads up, this thread will probably be moved to the "Other pet(non-garter)" thread.I tried to find that section of the forum, but I guess i passed?

[snakehill]

VERY SORRY!!! WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!!!!:o:o:o

[guidofatherof5]

I'm still learning about Tank. I've figured out that when he digs in a back corner of his enclosure that means he's tired.
Tonight I learned something new.
I have my laptop on the floor near Tank's enclosure. This way I can work on the computer and spend time with him.
While working on the computer, Tank kept getting out of his enclosure. He'd circle around me or try to walk across the laptop. Then he'd go back in his water. After the 6th time in 5 minutes I turned my attention to him. As he was coming out of his water for #7 I looked him in his eyes and realized what he wanted. I lifted up his blanket and he went right under it and fell asleep.
I bet he was thinking "stupid human":D

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank112.jpg

[snakehill]

Okay folks, there is a really pretty baby Motley Corn on Craigslist! Only $30, comes with everything and is eating f/t fuzzies!! Talk me out of it please:rolleyes:

[Charis]

And there is a downside to any of that?
LOL, I think you've come to the wrong place if you want anything other than a pack of enablers! But doing my best, do you have room for another snake?

[snakehill]

Don't have any at the moment! I love corns almost as much as garters but not quite!!!:rolleyes: Love kings too! PS I have 2 Chihuahuas!:D

[Mommy2many]

Go for it!

[snakehill]

Ok. Here's a question. Has anyone ever housed a corn and a garter together?:confused:

[RedSidedSPR]

Maybe, someone was gonna try until i told her not to, not too long ago.

But... DO NOT TRY!!

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome Tank story Steve

[snakehill]

:rolleyes:I figured that you'd have an opinion on this one!!!!:rolleyes: I like to try new things!:rolleyes:

[RedSidedSPR]

What's that supposed to mean?

[snakehill]

kidding!!!!!!!!!!:p I don't know if anyone noticed but I have a problem with sarcasm:D. I'm working on that!:cool:

[RedSidedSPR]

Well, duh. But it meant something. I can feel it

[snakehill]

You have amazing opinions and I read everything you say! You are very knowledgable! I was just kidding! Really! I have to go to work and do a double shift and now I'm going to be all worried that I offended you!:o:o

[RedSidedSPR]

You didn't. Not at all.

[Charis]

Yeah, better not to try. There are few snake species that don't seem to have too many stress problems or occurrences of eating each other when housed together, but for the most part it's not a good idea. Corns do have a fairly high incidence of cannibalism when housed together. Recently someone who just joined CS.com made the mistake of buying a Westen Hog then a few weeks came across a corn snake he couldn't pass up and figured they would be able to bunk together until he could get a separate set up for the corn. However the hog ate the corn.

[Bart]

http://s1.pokazywarka.pl/bigImages/616007/1761224.jpg

Here's Amon. He's 1,5 year old african house snake (Lamprophis fuliginosus), something like 70 cm large and, as you can see, noming a frozen mouse (it's a chopper, I guess) on my table. :D

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome.

reminds me of my snakes, which eat right on table/desk.

[Spankenstyne]

Thanks. Tough being out of town for the first week of incubation but hopefully as is as well as the house-sitter is telling me.

[snakehill]

Corns tend to be cannibalistic??!! I quess I better read more about corns before I get one;)

[RedSidedSPR]

lol, they're not necessarily cannibalistic, but they may end up eating one... very unlikely though, and almost surely won't happen with another corn.

[snakehill]

That's what I thought! I never had a problem with my corns. I always fed them seperately though! Who knew!:rolleyes:

[Charis]

If you aren't already on CS.com but want to join to look into them more, just be aware that co-habbing is a hot botton topic, like de-clawing a cat on a cat lover forum. Personally, I believe the danger of cannibalism is often a bit overstated there, but it does happen occasionally.

[snakehill]

AHHH!!! Thanks for the tip! I'll have to check it out! (Don't get me going on declawing cats!):rolleyes:

[flickerfriend]

Dont have piccys of my one(i wish i had more :( ) cage. But i do of my snake... if i could figure out how to get piccys in :(

[RedSidedSPR]

That. Is. A. loooot of snakes. Very cool!

[katach]

The scaleless looks so soft! Is she?

[RedSidedSPR]

i can't find him... the snake i mean

[RedSidedSPR]

sorry, i found him. My bad :rolleyes:

[d_virginiana]

This girl hangs out on the edge of our carport most nights and she's one of the most impressive American toads I've seen. I feed her Trevor's leftover crickets, so she's pretty calm since she knows she'll get food if she puts up with me. Finally decided to get some pics of her, so I thought I'd share :)

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/260238_10150300226598035_639838034_9232199_7611424 _n.jpg

Pic with my hand for a size comparison..

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/270301_10150300226558035_639838034_9232198_2423217 _n.jpg

[katach]

Way cool! The body looks like a toasted marshmallow... lol I guess I have camping on the brain.

[ssssnakeluvr]

very nice! the Boreal Toads in Idaho get big like that! hoping to find a couple more for pets =)

[flickerfriend]

Very nice.

[MlizGr]

We used to get toads like that out at my grandma's place. There was one who sat right next to the bug zapper and just picked up any bugs it fried. Huge toad, but soooo lazy.

[Mommy2many]

Smart toad...

[snakehill]

You weren't kidding about Cornsnake.com! It can get nasty!:eek:

[d_virginiana]

We used to get toads like that out at my grandma's place. There was one who sat right next to the bug zapper and just picked up any bugs it fried. Huge toad, but soooo lazy.

Awesome. I've always thought they were smarter than frogs :)

[guidofatherof5]

That toad is the bomb.

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome.

I used to have this small, black toad, who i'd find stitting in the dog house. I'd hand him a worm, he'd eat it.

[RedSidedSPR]

it does. They get very... passionate.. however, they're not the only ones,

[sandrobrandiao]

Hi, im a new member, see my Liophis Poecilogyrus !!



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5309/5890080266_c3a5fc06a5_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5038/5890061806_2b0ef9cdba_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6030/5889492875_bfdf0728f7_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6028/5890060394_cf2c294368_b.jpg

[katach]

Beautiful Liophis Poecilogyrus!!! Welcome to the forum!

[kibakiba]

Wow that is a pretty little snake! He's too cute :D

[Hornets23]

Whoa...awesome snake!

[drache]

pretty

[RedSidedSPR]

awesome snake! I want one!!

[snakehill]

I want a snake period! I went snake hunting again yesterday and came home without a snake and with a hundred or so ticks!:eek:

[RedSidedSPR]

You just described every single one of my days I've ever lived.

[snakehill]

Yeah but at least you have snakes! My friends husband found a garter yesterday and let it go! He didn't know I was looking for one! Now that he knows I'm looking he won't find any more either! :(

[RedSidedSPR]

Yup that's how it goes.

I thought you didn't want to catch one....

[snakehill]

I am going to try it! If It doesn't work out I will release the snake! I had a real pretty smaller eastern that I'd seen several times roaming around my yard. Now he is nowhere to be found of course!:mad:

[RedSidedSPR]

Of course. That's how it works.

[katach]

Snakehill, if my NW has babies, and I can figure out how to safely ship them, you can have have a couple just pay for the shipping, That's IF she's prego, she could just be fat...

[snakehill]

Wow! Thanks! Keep me posted!:D

[katach]

Will do. She seems to be getting fatter, so I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

[guidofatherof5]

Tank lives the good life. Here he is waking up from a nap on the couch.
He's slow to get up. Not a get-up-and-go turtle.
He take about 20 minutes to stretch and get a neck rub and sometimes he just goes back to sleep.
Today he got up, used his restroom and went back to bed.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank122.jpg

[Spankenstyne]

A few of my new kiddies

The yet to be named female:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Drymarchon/dcor1ajuly9.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Drymarchon/dcor1bjuly9.jpg
...and her surly man servant who never seems to stop moving:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Drymarchon/dcor2ajuly9.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Drymarchon/dcor2bjuly9.jpg

The Dos Equis Man:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Drymarchon/dcoup1july9.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful snakes Chris.

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome!! What are they? :p

[ConcinusMan]

Looks like a coachwhip.

[RedSidedSPR]

I know, that's what i thought. I love coachwhips, but i can't tell...

[ConcinusMan]

Not the kind of snake that should be kept in captivity IMO.

[RedSidedSPR]

Yeah, i used to want one, but i thought the same thing. Now i just want a racer :D

[ConcinusMan]

Same difference. I know that opinions will most definitely differ from mine, but that's another genus (Coluber) that is ill suited for tank/tub life. In my experience, every attempt to keep a racer or coachwhip in captivity has ended badly. They were just to nervous and flighty, wouldn't eat well if at all, and just don't like to be confined.

[RedSidedSPR]

I used to think the same thing, and still do on most occasions, but i know it's possible. Wayne has a racer, that eats great.
I'd never keep a racer in anything even remotely small, at least as 20-30gal, and only if i felt capable. They are almost impossible to tame to like handling, but they can be nice and calm/friendly as long as you don't touch them :D.

I love racers, and hope to have one someday, but yes. They, technically, aren't the MOST suited for captivity, and only by the "pros" or someone capable and experienced.

[BUSHSNAKE]

Dudes its not a coachwhip its a yellowtail cribo...relative to our native indigo snakes

[ConcinusMan]

Dudes its not a coachwhip its a yellowtail cribo...relative to our native indigo snakes


OK. I'll take your word for it. But it does look more like a coachwhip than any yellow tail cribo I've ever seen.

Cribo's are awesome though. Just like an oversized garter snake.

(not a yellow tail, but one awesome sweet cribo for sure)
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg28/scaled.php?server=28&filename=gedc1566.jpg&res=medium

[BUSHSNAKE]

i used to keep and breed all Drymarchon species and i agree they are like a giant garters

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, that one I'm holding was a real sweetie, and that was the smaller of the two. They were really inquisitive and seemed very intelligent. Real "snuggle bugs" too. They seemed to enjoy the handling and interaction. They had every personality aspect that I love, in common with garter snakes.

[GarterCZ]

My male ball python eating a small rat :)
and my boa constrictor

[Spankenstyne]

Yes it's a pair of Yellowtail Cribos (& the last one is an Eastern Indigo).
Richard is that a D. m. melanurus or D. m. unicolor you're holding? Looks like a Black tail to me but hard to tell in the pic.

Cribos can be a handful for a lot of keepers & intimidating as well & due to the potential size some get (10'+ it's said for the Yellowtails), crazy feeding responses, and garter-like activity levels. Those that keep cobras find them very comparable in "intelligence" and the way they move and act as well. Awesome snakes that I feel extremely fortunate to now keep.
Bushsnake I gotta ask, why did you ever stop?

As for Coachwhips I agree that most keepers wouldn't be able to keep them, but I do have a friend out East who kept and sucessfully bred them. I believe he was also keeping them in 8' long cages as well though.

[RedSidedSPR]

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg28/scaled.php?server=28&filename=gedc1566.jpg&res=medium

Nice shirt.

Glad to know what it is. I've never heard of a cribo. Gonna have to look that one up.

[Spankenstyne]

My male ball python eating a small rat :)
and my boa constrictor


Nice snakes!

[RedSidedSPR]

My male ball python eating a small rat :)
and my boa constrictor

Cool snakes, man.

[snakehill]

Richard, he's GORGEOUS! I just checked them out on kingsnake.com. They are not cheap!:eek:

[RedSidedSPR]

but they're worth it. Freakin' awesome.

[Mommy2many]

Very nice!

[ConcinusMan]

Richard, he's GORGEOUS! I just checked them out on kingsnake.com. They are not cheap!:eek:

No, they're not. The one I was holding was just one of a pair. And they had a clutch of eggs which hatched about 3 days after that pic was taken last summer. They belonged to forum member "redspot".

Those babies "flew out the door":cool:

If I had a lot of room and could set up at least a 6X8 foot enclosure, I would own a cribo in heartbeat. They're wonderful snakes. Everything we love about garter snakes, but much bigger.

[ssssnakeluvr]

the cribos are awesome snakes! I had one a few years back.... if I had room for them...... =)

[RedSidedSPR]

Now I want one :D

[GarterCZ]

OK. I'll take your word for it. But it does look more like a coachwhip than any yellow tail cribo I've ever seen.

Cribo's are awesome though. Just like an oversized garter snake.

(not a yellow tail, but one awesome sweet cribo for sure)
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg28/scaled.php?server=28&filename=gedc1566.jpg&res=medium

Magnificent snakes, too bad that its almost impossible to get these here where I live :( I always wanted a Drymarchon but not lucky

[RedSidedSPR]

You gotta admit though, that's a pretty nice shirt :D

[confused]

I caught a very skinny milksnake, while I was on the phone at the same time, in my bedroom. I've had her about a month. Shes two feet long and much healthier, strong eater since day one. Shes remarkably docile. Never struck at me, musked or anything, but doesn't really like to be held, she just keeps moving. i moved her to a 7 1/2 gallon bin about a week ago. She was fine for a few days, has eaten two mice, but today she seems to be chewing at the walls of the plastic a bit. I'm not sure what threw her off. I did add a heated corner but she seemed to love it, next morning shes chewing on the walls. (I removed it.)

Any thoughts? I can't see any teeth either, how small are they? She doesn't have any striking behavior, she just slithers up and kinda pokes things til she decides its food and just eats it.

[RedSidedSPR]

I can't help ya, never kept a milk. I can tell you that the teeth are tiny, and barely visible, but there's lots of em. The lack of striking the food is normal.

[infernalis]

I keep several.. what species of milk snake is it?

A picture would certainly help.

Also before a mod steps in, try sSnakeSs.com (http://www.ssnakess.com/) , the forum is owned by the same person as this one, but it is a more generalized herp forum and not Thamnophis specific like this one. ;)

We have a wide variety of milk snake owners there.

[kibakiba]

Meet Frogger... My mom caught him and said he was too cute to freeze and feed to the snakes, so she put him in a tank and he's her little pet. Isn't he cute? He's a Pacific chorus frog.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/Frogger.JPG
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/Frogger_2.JPG

[snakehill]

He's a cutie!:)

[kibakiba]

Yeah, and he's tiny. About the size of my pinky nail

[katach]

I had an uncontrollable awwww come out when I saw that little guy. So cute!!

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking little frog.
Don't go handling your snakes right after holding him.:D

[kibakiba]

Haha, well I don't plan on handling him much, He's more of a little pet to look at. I want him to be comfortable in his new home. He's been digging around in the soil and hopping around in the grass and sticks. He's really fun to watch! My mom wants to find a few more and breed them. She used to have a few of them when I was a kid, they eat crickets happily.

[guidofatherof5]

I'm sure flies are on that menu.
Set a food item outside and wait for them to collect on it.
Then take a gallon size freezer bag and slowly lower it over the item.
That's the system I use when we feed the wild spiders.
Of course, I'm not collecting them off a food item. We have two dogs:D

[kibakiba]

Yeah, we don't have any crickets right now, but he took a wingless fruit fly off my finger. I was looking at care sheets for them, and it says to feed them gutloaded crickets and wingless fruitflies also. He's pretty tiny right now, I think a pinhead cricket would scare the poop out of him. :D

[RedSidedSPR]

Dang that's awesome! He'll get bigger! I've seen some big as my hand!

Good luck with him

[kibakiba]

Frogger? They only get up to 2 inches max. They're tiny little frogs. He's peeped a few times, it's cute to hear him since he's so tiny.

[RedSidedSPR]

Wait what?!! I've seen chourus forge as big as my hand!!!!

[kibakiba]

Pacific chorus frogs are found from California to BC I believe, and they stay very, very small. I have never seen one over 2 inches, and the care sheets say they stay at 2 inches. You're in NC, not near where I am ;)

[guidofatherof5]

Wait what?!! I've seen chourus forge as big as my hand!!!!

Maybe your frog is in here.

Frogs and Toads of North Carolina (http://www.herpsofnc.org/herps_of_NC/anurans/anurans.html)

[ConcinusMan]

Wait what?!! I've seen chourus forge as big as my hand!!!!

Then it wasn't a pacific chorus frog. (Pseudacris regilla, or Hyla regilla)These guys transform to land dwelling adults at about 60-90 days from hatching, or 1cm long (Chantel's little guy just transformed, you can tell by looking at his mouth area) and max out at around 5cm. In fact, most of the ones you'll find are smaller than 5cm.

As was mentioned already, these are west coast frogs. Nearly every time you hear a frog calling in a hollywood movie, it's this frog you're hearing. Your chorus frog is probably Pseudacris ornata. But still shouldn't be the size of your fist.

Tadpoles are easy to raise but frogs require a constant abundant supply of soft-bodied insects to stay healthy. They need to eat several times a day or at least eat very well once a day. Forget about this "about 4 times weekly" you'll hear on the internet. That only applies to full grown frogs that eat a very large meal at one sitting. Adults do well eating flies and small earthworms. Little ones like this one could be a challenge or expensive to keep fed properly unless you have your own continuous supply of fruit flies.

Just keep a close eye on their appearance. If they don't look plump and rounded, and start to look a little caved-in, they're not getting enough to eat.

[kibakiba]

He's eaten a couple fruit flies today, and since he's so tiny right now, I'm not worried about him eating too much. We have some more wingless fruitflies wandering in the tank, so if he's hungry he's not going to starve. Besides, we also have a lot of baby house flies that are constantly born near one of our windows, which I'm sure he'll eat too.

[d_virginiana]

That frog is adorable. :)

[kibakiba]

Isn't he? He chased my finger when I was trying to grab a fly for him. He's just nomnomnomin' away on them ;)

[kibakiba]

Frogger is one loud frog. He's on the edge of his water dish with one of the wingless flies sitting on his head, peeping the night away. I didn't think baby frogs croaked too much, if at all. Maybe he's thanking me for the flies, his belly is pretty big right now. :D

[confused]

I keep several.. what species of milk snake is it?

A picture would certainly help.

Also before a mod steps in, try sSnakeSs.com (http://www.ssnakess.com/) , the forum is owned by the same person as this one, but it is a more generalized herp forum and not Thamnophis specific like this one. ;)

We have a wide variety of milk snake owners there.

they don't seem to be taking new members there right now, the button is broken. She is a common I believe, caught in NY. Nothing wrong with her visually, she just likes to chew on the clear plastic of her cage trying to get out. I'm not sure if it's bad for her mouth at the least.

[RedSidedSPR]

Weird. It obviously wasn't a chourus frog... I mean, it was, but it was one biiiiiig chorus frog!

[infernalis]

they don't seem to be taking new members there right now, the button is broken. She is a common I believe, caught in NY. Nothing wrong with her visually, she just likes to chew on the clear plastic of her cage trying to get out. I'm not sure if it's bad for her mouth at the least.

That's extremely odd, I welcomed 9 new members this morning alone.

If you want I can just clone your info from here and set you up.

[snakehill]

I became a member the other day!:)

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

This is Persephone, she is the newest arrival here. Believe it or not I scored this trophy jungle carpet because she needed a good home... all I had to do was pay shipping. This is a TOP NOTCH animal. You just don't see them like this!

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/001-Copy-Copy.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/001-Copy-Copy.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/015-Copy-Copy-Copy.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/036-Copy-Copy.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful snake Shannon.

You are right, I've never found one on my fence or in my trees.:D
Wish I did though.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

She is awesome!

[RedSidedSPR]

Darn right, she is!! Beautiful snake! Love the third photo!

[snakehill]

She's a BEAUTY! I had a male named Lance He was a great snake! He wasn't as Hi-yellow as her though.:)

[RedSidedSPR]

My dog just saw one of my snakes for, i don't know, the second time :D

He goes nuts. I don't know why he only sees him once or twice since i got him, but,...

Bad quality sorry (as you can see, my camera is on that shelf)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/bogeyVSspooner.jpg

[snakehill]

Your dog is cute! Is he a Brittany? :confused:

[RedSidedSPR]

Your dog is cute! Is he a Brittany? :confused:

Yes he is! You're probably the only person to every guess right!!!

He's 3 years old now. He's a very hyper, but good dog. Would rather be fetching squirrels than tennis balls :D When i say i like hunting, that usually refers to squirrel huntin' with mah dog. He loves it.

Looks bored in this...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/CameraPics002.jpg

I guess he does in this too...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/CameraPics137.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/CameraPics240.jpg

[snakehill]

Oh my! He's ADORABLE!!!!!!!!!!!! They do tend to be a little hyper but they are GREAT dogs! Dogs are my favorite (I have six!) and snakes are my second favorite!;)

[d_virginiana]

Aww, such a cute dog :D Our cats do the same thing, they've lived in the same house as the snakes for years, but as soon as they see one, it's madness lol.

[RedSidedSPR]

Ah, but do they howl? :D

Thanks, guys.

[ConcinusMan]

My dog just saw one of my snakes for, i don't know, the second time :D

He goes nuts. I don't know why he only sees him once or twice since i got him, but,...

Bad quality sorry (as you can see, my camera is on that shelf)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/bogeyVSspooner.jpg

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[confused]

Infernalis, please do, I just tried again, I can't use the contact or join buttons. i get an error message. Let me know if you need help debugging. firefox is all I have on this laptop.

[RedSidedSPR]

Has anyone ever kept a five-lined skink?

I have one that's doing weird things with his eye... A baby. Thought I'd try to keep him for awhile. I've done this before, they are abundant here. But only for a few days. Watch him eat, let him go.

Thanks.

[jitami]

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Nice milk... I have to admit I muted the sound after the first few seconds, tho :p Thanks for the reminder of why I have big dogs :o:D:o

[d_virginiana]

Has anyone ever kept a five-lined skink?

I have one that's doing weird things with his eye... A baby. Thought I'd try to keep him for awhile. I've done this before, they are abundant here. But only for a few days. Watch him eat, let him go.

Thanks.

Same as you, only kept them for a few days after a cat-attack. What's it doing with its eye?

[RedSidedSPR]

Probably nothing to be concerned with, but he won't open it all the way, and it keeps closing. His other (left) doesn't.

I really like these guys, have sat outside and watched the colony that lives undery porch (haven't seen them this year) and wouldn't mind keeping some. NOT temerary.

Do they need additional heat? My house is 78 (82 in afternoon) do they need something more than that?

[d_virginiana]

Probably nothing to be concerned with, but he won't open it all the way, and it keeps closing. His other (left) doesn't.

I really like these guys, have sat outside and watched the colony that lives undery porch (haven't seen them this year) and wouldn't mind keeping some. NOT temerary.

Do they need additional heat? My house is 78 (82 in afternoon) do they need something more than that?

I haven't seen many this year either, which is a bit odd. The only one I've seen my dog sniffed out..

I'd think those temps should be find. A lot like what's outside, just without the really high temps. What do you feed the ones you keep? I've always used crickets and cut up nightcrawler bits.

[RedSidedSPR]

Never tried worms. Don't think that's a very natural food. But If it works...
I feed crickets, mealworms. With this guy I may have to feed wingless flies :D unless theybhave small enough crickets

[d_virginiana]

Yeah, the nightcrawlers probably aren't a good staple, but I didn't really do much research since I've only kept them for a few days at a time. :p Is there anywhere you can buy pinhead crickets? Those are small enough for even really small breeds of frog, so the skink might be able to handle them, but sometimes places don't carry them.

[kibakiba]

If you cant find pinheads, buy full adult crickets. They breed like crazy, and if you put dirt in their container, they'll lay a ton of eggs, which hatch pretty fast under the right conditions.

[RedSidedSPR]

Thanks, I t think petsmart has crickets small enough... Well see. Although if no, I'll probably let hik go, instead of breeding.

[RedSidedSPR]

Wow. I was really smoothe typing that last post :rolleyes:

Sory bot hat :D

[RedSidedSPR]

Here he is

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/skinkbaby008.jpg

This shows his eye
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/skinkbaby011.jpg

[d_virginiana]

Aww, cute little guy. :) He looks big enough to handle the smaller petsmart crickets.

[RedSidedSPR]

Yeah, he is. Hes smaller than he looks in these pics. Not sure why. About... A little over an inch...

[RedSidedSPR]

I let him go. His eye was still doing it, but not as much. He didn't eat...

[guidofatherof5]

Here's an angry Tank the common snapping turtle(Chelydra sepentina).
Just kidding, this is the beginning of a yawn after his afternoon sleep.
After a slow wake-up he went to his enclosure, releaved himself and had dinner(dinner came after a water change)
Everyday is another great adventure with Tank.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank132.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Tank? Angry? Oh... Never mind. I LIKE TANK!!!

[guidofatherof5]

The edge on that beak is like that of a good pair of scissors.
Tank has grabbed me a few times(all my fault) rather then applying full force I can feel and see him lighten up and release.
I've gotten a few puncture wounds from the front of the beak but it's nothing.
Could have been much worse but Tank in my opinion is a thinker and knows I'm not food.
He's a smart turtle

[RedSidedSPR]

Yeah, he's also an awesome turtle. I don't think I knew they were that sharp....

[guidofatherof5]

They grab a mouthful of food, apply power from their very strong front legs and claws and rip chunks off.
At 7 lbs he's super strong. I can imagine what he could do if he wanted to. It wouldn't be pretty.

[RedSidedSPR]

Yeah really.... Guess that's why you don't keep them as a rule...

[guidofatherof5]

You are right. As a rule not a great pet. At least not one you can interact with.
Tank is truly and exceptional turtle. A once in a lifetime turtle.
Last night he came out of his water, climbed up on my are arm and gave me the tired turtle look. I lifted up his blanket and he went to bed.
An exceptional turtle.;)

[RedSidedSPR]

Very.

[Didymus20X6]

That's not a turtle, that's a wiener dog with a shell.

[drache]

we recently adopted another rescue - not a reptile
she's beginning to settle in nicely
she had a big scab on her nose when we first got her about a month ago, and the skin still looks a bit pink and shiny there
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6126/5944012107_b9ba3455d2_b.jpg

she likes to run and we were fortunate to be able to scavenge a big wheel for her
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/5944012089_a84ac996ef_b.jpg

she's not scared of much, but she'll bristle easily, and she does a ton of hissing
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6028/5944012111_21de08749d_b.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Wow. That is awesome :D Do you keep them like other small mammals? (i.e. hamsters ferrets etc)

[drache]

not quite, but it's not hugely difficult
she's an omnivore though with a high need for protein
she eats some kibble, and some bugs - loves superworms
she'll also eat some fruit, really likes peas

[Hornets23]

Rhea! I was thinking of getting one of those myself! I would love to know your thoughts after youve had her for a while!

[RedSidedSPR]

Cool. Never plan on keeping one, but have always caught my eye

[snakehill]

I had one for a while. Wasn't the cuddliest pet I ever had. Didn't seem to enjoy human interaction very much! :rolleyes:

[Hornets23]

I wouldnt really expect cuddly but did it tolerate you well?

[drache]

Rhea! I was thinking of getting one of those myself! I would love to know your thoughts after youve had her for a while!
so far so good
she doesn't curl up as much as she used to
when I stick my hand into the enclosure, she comes and bites me
if I give her something yummy to eat, she'll let me touch her face while she's eating
she eats like a little hog - very noisy

[snakehill]

They're nocturnal also. Not a problem if you are a night owl (which I am not!);)

[Mrs N1ntndo]

i have 4 kitties( weasley, butterball, krooks and klinger) when I figure out how to post the pics on this site ill post some.

[drache]

They're nocturnal also. Not a problem if you are a night owl (which I am not!);)
mine comes out during the day
and she's up often in the mornings and evenings
it's not quite what I had expected

[snakehill]

Probably looking for food! They don't call them HedgeHOGS for nothing!:rolleyes:

[drache]

you're right - she's always got an appetite
she probably comes out when I feed other animals

[jitami]

She's adorable, Rhea! Hopefully she'll stop the nipping soon.

[drache]

hey, look at what just hatched

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6010/5961707848_5b65aaaac3_b.jpg

I am so stoked!
and I am sure it's only because I got the S.I.M. container
all my previous clutches were a complete bust, and this one was about to head that way
when I switched the eggs, there were only four left, and one of those isn't looking great now, but, I've been so gaga over the hatchling that I haven't gotten around to taking a closer look
if this weren't a garter forum, I'd take more time to rave about the S.I.M. (substrate-less incubation method) container, but if you have anything that lays eggs, you should definitely check it out - particularly if you're on a tight budget, like me
it's only $25 bucks Squamata Concepts, LLC. (http://squamataconcepts.com/)

[snakehill]

OHHHHH! SO CUTE!!!! I love Uros! Especially babies!!!!:D

[RedSidedSPR]

Nice. Hes awesome!

[BUSHSNAKE]

he is awesome...and cute, what species is it?

[drache]

he is awesome...and cute, what species is it?uromastyx dispar maliensis

[ConcinusMan]

Awesome rhea. I'm genuinely happy for you that it was success this time.

[guidofatherof5]

Very cool Rhea. Congrats;)

[d_virginiana]

Awesome! That baby is so adorable :)

[Hornets23]

So incredibly adorable Rhea! Congratulations!

[ssssnakeluvr]

picked these up recently.... breeding pair of het albino balls... got a great deal too $100 bucks!! (75 store credit and 25 cash) and they are yearlings too!

female

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF6003-1.jpg

male...he didnt want his pic taken

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF6006-2.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Beautiful!!

[guidofatherof5]

Very nice.

[snakehill]

hey, look at what just hatched

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6010/5961707848_5b65aaaac3_b.jpg

I am so stoked!
and I am sure it's only because I got the S.I.M. container
all my previous clutches were a complete bust, and this one was about to head that way
when I switched the eggs, there were only four left, and one of those isn't looking great now, but, I've been so gaga over the hatchling that I haven't gotten around to taking a closer look
if this weren't a garter forum, I'd take more time to rave about the S.I.M. (substrate-less incubation method) container, but if you have anything that lays eggs, you should definitely check it out - particularly if you're on a tight budget, like me
it's only $25 bucks Squamata Concepts, LLC. (http://squamataconcepts.com/)
Be very careful what substrate you use! I lost a baby once and the Necropsy proved that his death was caused by impaction!:eek:

[Mommy2many]

Congratulations on your new hatchling!

[Mrs N1ntndo]

I said a couples days ago when I was off my phone doing the forums and able to use the computer I would put so pics up of our Kittys. I wouldve put these on earlier but I didnt want to run the computer so much with it being sooo hot her the past 2 weeks. But here you go . my kitties:

This is Weasley and he's my hubbys kitty. He will be 10 this year in October.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Image02032011005756.jpg


This is Klinger and he is my youngest daughter Haylee's kitty. He is also our youngest kitty...lol He always sleeps like this on anthing. we love it.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/IMG00824.jpg

This Krooks and I call him Krooky-Krooks. Hes my kitty. Very jumping and he walk on his tip toes ALL the time.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Image01222011195956.jpg


This is Butterball and this is Samanthas kitty. He is always leaning against the fan so I figure it would a good idea to put this pic to show him....lol Plus I love the way his eyes are in this pic. There awesome.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/stuff_067.jpg

I hope that you all liked the pics that I put on here.

[RedSidedSPR]

I did! Awesome cats! I like Klinger

[Mrs N1ntndo]

Thank you. Haylee thought it was awesome that you like her cat..lol

[Didymus20X6]

http://i51.tinypic.com/mjwpqw.jpg

[drache]

Be very careful what substrate you use! I lost a baby once and the Necropsy proved that his death was caused by impaction!:eek:
what did you use?
my smart books all tell me to keep babies just like adults, and I haven't been able to reach my uromastyx expert friend

nice cats
do they all get along?

[Mommy2many]

Nice kitty pictures!

[jitami]

Rhea, your baby is absolutely adorable! Congrats on the successful hatching! So did you just use a heat mat on a thermostat for temp control? Certainly looks easy enough... and cheap enough! Cool.

Don, nice score! Good luck with them!

Love the kitty's, Mrs N1ntndo :)

[drache]

I used a heat mat underneath, and an additional heat lamp on a thermostat that kicks in if the temps drop too far
#2 is working on hatching as we speak - taking a long break with it's head sticking out of the egg

[jitami]

Thought I'd share what this little punkin has been busy growing into:

5 Weeks when I fell in love with the little stinker, still at his breeder's house:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Hades/BlueBoy.jpg

6 months old - learning all about that show dog stuff & trying to grow into those ears...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Hades/Hades6mobdayfront.jpg

12 months being a dork :) - the beautiful girl holding his lead in the win pic below was approaching, so he was being all wiggly & excited. He's loves to show and can't wait until she takes him to play show dog:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Hades/Goofball12mo.jpg

15 months checking on the kids next door - he LOVES them and they him:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Hades15molookingoverfence.jpg

Last week, 16 months, taking a very nice win at a Great Dane specialty show in Monterey (btw, I'm none of those people in the pic - judge, handler, club reps. I was standing in front of him off camera):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Hades/HadesMonterySpecialtyWD.jpg


Besides being beautiful (and huge, yes, I know), he has been the easiest puppy I've ever owned. He's as sweet as can be, loves absolutely everyone and everything and is just a joy to have around. He has stolen my heart and gone a long way in filling the giant hole left by my last dane boy. I cherish the time spent doing things with him, whether traveling here and there for shows or just hanging on the couch. It took me some time to get over losing my last boy and it's obvious that this one's going to hurt just as much when he has to leave, tho I've told him that's absolutely not allowed. <3

[jitami]

I used a heat mat underneath, and an additional heat lamp on a thermostat that kicks in if the temps drop too far
#2 is working on hatching as we speak - taking a long break with it's head sticking out of the egg

Sweet! Looking forward to pics of the little brother/sister :)

[RedSidedSPR]

Very nice dog!!!!!!!

[Mrs N1ntndo]

drache......My kitty all get along for the most part but just like any family or friends ... theres good and bad days.

jitami......Very beautiful Dane.


Didymus20X6....... My daughter Samantha laughed really hard and So did I . Thats her cat...lol Awesome


Thank you to the rest of you for commenting our Kittys. We love them and we are happy to share photos of them also.

[drache]

beautiful dog
I used to have a friend with a dane - loved that dog

[snakehill]

what did you use?
my smart books all tell me to keep babies just like adults, and I haven't been able to reach my uromastyx expert friend

nice cats
do they all get along? I used Reptisand. They guarantee it won't cause this problem on the bag! I was pissed!:mad: I noticed you are using paper towels. I would stick with that!

[jitami]

Thanks for the compliments. I really do love the big lug... of course I love all of my critters, but the Dane puppy is really special to me. We also have a couple of rescue basset hounds (silly, messy, loud and very very sweet) and an elderly mixed breed herding dog of some sort that has been like Lassie to my kids. We really have a great mix of dogs right now. Oh, have a kitty, too. It's a big of a zoo around here, but I love it :)

[guidofatherof5]

Bassets are great dogs. Always wanted one. Love to see yours.

[jitami]

Bassets are great dogs. Always wanted one. Love to see yours.

Ask and ye shall receive...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Dogs/Giz.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Dogs/DSC02671.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Dogs/Charlie.jpg

(bad cell phone pic, but Charlie playing mama dog to baby Hades)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Dogs/CharlieDeezNaptime.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Dogs/DSC04640.jpg

The smaller/darker hound is Gizmo, we adopted him from the SPCA after he had been adopted once and brought back after a month... he's a bit of trouble, but certainly worth it. The larger/lighter hound is Charlie. I saw him posted on craigslist with a very cute little female puppy. They were trying to rehome both together. I'm not crazy about girl dogs & didn't want to ad two at that time, so didn't think much more about the ad... until a couple weeks later when he showed back up on craigslist w/ no mention of his 'sister'. Seems they had found the cute little puppy a home, but not Charlie Bear. So we went to meet him and his owner at local dog park. The former owner was completely unemotional and obviously not attached to this dog. I happily handed her 25 bucks and put our boy in the car. He came with the leash and collar he had on and nothing else. No bed, toys, food, nothing. Just given away like you'd give away an old tire or something. Sigh. He's a fabulous boy and completely raised Hades. He was obsessed with mothering the dane puppy and they're still the best of buds. Charlie is a tank and has no problems running with and at Hades!

And one of Chance so he doesn't feel left out:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/jitami/Dogs/DSC02567.jpg
Man, the picture of old man, Chance, above was less than two years ago. It's sad to realize how much he's aged since then.... he's much more grey and much less active. He's also lost most of his hearing & vision and has a bit of senility. He's 14, so not young, but it's still sad...

[snakehill]

Too cute!!! :D

[RedSidedSPR]

They're all awesome! I like Chance, he's a good lookin' dog.

[jitami]

They're all awesome! I like Chance, he's a good lookin' dog.

Thanks. He was a pound puppy and our best guess is Border Collie/pomeranian mix, maybe long haired chihuahua mixed in there? He's 25-30 pounds and about the size of a large sheltie/small border collie. Whatever he is, he's been a great dog. We've had him since my oldest, now starting his second year of college, was in kindergarten. Chance was the perfect kid dog. He followed the boys everywhere, herded them away from things he thought were dangerous, etc. We don't have much time with him and we're trying to cherish every moment :(

[guidofatherof5]

You made my day with your photos and explanation.
Made me think of my old girl Alexis(Ally dog) God rest her soul.
The 28th of Sept. will be 3 years since she passed. Kids and I still miss her and talk of her often.
I guess it's a testament to her great impact on us.
Give Chance a good belly rub from me.
Thanks again.

[jitami]

Awww, will do, Steve. I remember when you lost Ally... I swear, every one of them takes a piece of my heart with them. Ha, maybe that's how we become old curmudgeons. By the time I reach 80 I'll have no heart left :o

[guidofatherof5]

A garter snake forum and my avatar is a dog(Ally girl).
I can never repay her for all she did for my kids and I.
My kids will still be talk about her when they're old. That's a great dog.
Each of my kids will take a framed poster size print of Ally and them when they get their own place.
She(Ally) still has one wall in the living room.
Miss the old girl.
I remember her last couple of months. We spent a lot of time just sitting together in the back yard enjoying the cool air. She sat next to me and watched the kids play.
I know she considered them her puppies.
We both knew her time was short. She had been on borrowed time for a few years according to her Vet.

[snakehill]

My Avatar is a dog! But then again I don't have any garters right now! So sorry for your loss Steve! Dogs are the best! (then garters! lol):)

[jitami]

Each of my kids will take a framed poster size print of Ally and them when they get their own place.

That is a great idea, Steve, and one I might steal.

In the time that we've had Chance we've also had 4 great danes and the two basset hounds. The kids love them all, but Chance was their first dog and definitely made just for them. You may have heard this story before. It's my favorite Chance story, so not sure who I've told it to, but here goes. We had taken the kids and Chance for a drive and stopped off at this small lake/large pond for the kids to play in for a little bit. Chance did not think this was a good idea at all! Chance ran up and down the shore barking and whining at the kids, trying to convince them to get out of the water. When that didn't work he took all of their toys, one by one, from the shore up to the truck and left them there. It was quite obvious he was saying, 'Enough of this nonsense! We're going home!' LOL

Ugh, these stories are making it more obvious at how much he's changed in the last year or so. We've been on borrowed time for a while, too. When my son left for school last summer we made sure he understood that Chance may not make it until the next break. Here we are a year later still issuing the same warnings. Sadly, we're getting very close to having to make that awful decision... well, it's already been made really, just watching for the right time :(

[guidofatherof5]

I know what you are saying.
Having to put my girl down was terrible but I knew it was something that had to be done.
I know you will make the right decision.

[snakehill]

Worst thing in the world that you will ever have to do!!!!:( So sorry!

[RedSidedSPR]

I'm sorry too :(

That was an amazing story!

[jitami]

Worst thing in the world that you will ever have to do!!!!:( So sorry!

I know :( I think that makes it even more difficult. I've had to let two danes go and I'm really not looking forward to doing it again. I actually told my husband that he had to take Chance in, that I couldn't do it again, but I'm sure I'll be there :(

[guidofatherof5]

To the end. I held Ally in my arms and said goodbye as she left.
It was hard but I'm glad I was there.
Best friends to the end.

[J@50n]

These cute little lizards I see EVERYWHERE in Florida... Does anyone have them as Pets? If so what does your set-up look like? What do you feed them? Are they actually "Pet" type animals?

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1230/dscf5808v.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/dscf5808v.jpg/)

[RedSidedSPR]

Yea they are. You see them in petstores all the time. They are easy to keep, but also gotta be kept just right. They eat crickets and stuff. I've never kept one, and can't give you all the info.

This should, however, be posted in the other pets tread (http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/garter-snake-lounge/167-other-pets-non-garters.html) ;)

[Venti]

Green anoles make great pets, they will eat right out of your hand.
However, if you have a petstore that sells them, I would encourage long tailed lizards. They are very funny little lizards, and they can be kept with anoles.

Anoles and long tailed grass lizards eat crickets. My setup was more of a 40 tall I think, and had bark chips for substrate. Lots of leafy plants.

[mustang]

These cute little lizards I see EVERYWHERE in Florida... Does anyone have them as Pets? If so what does your set-up look like? What do you feed them? Are they actually "Pet" type animals?

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1230/dscf5808v.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/dscf5808v.jpg/)
i saw something like them in corpus, but they had a diamond pattern on their back...one gender deffinatly had the more prominate markings,...
wow, apparently what i saw was an invasive "brown anole" didnt think they were invasive texas parks and wildlife hasnt said anything, theyre also prominate in florida and a few other coastal states....well atleast wikipedia said theyre invasive, they might not be.

[Kantar]

tens of thousands of crayfish here
stephenfield provincial park - Google Maps (http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=stephenfield+provincial+park&hl=en&ll=49.525069,-98.280011&spn=0.00116,0.003449&sll=41.952928,-70.654767&sspn=0.085024,0.220757&radius=15000&t=h&z=18)

so I caught 5 that are about an inch long and going to raise them. Pictures later, they are my favorite crustacian

[Mommy2many]

I want to put a crayfish in with my "Son of a Fish".
He is so mean to his tank mate and he actually bit me the other day when I was putting his fake grass back in after cleaning it. Little monster. He is an Oscar of some kind, I believe.

[RedSidedSPR]

That's cool, I have a creek where I cath a lot!

Hey, my dog has fleas... apperantly almost every dog in NC does... some kinda Flea Epidemic goin' on.

I've tried eveything!!!!! Countless baths, he's had his flea/tick meds, and we've treated the carpets, he was wearing a flea color for over a week, but he tore it.

Any ideas?

[snakehill]

Fleas and ticks are the worst that they have been in years everywhere! Nothing works!:mad:

[Mommy2many]

I hate bugs!:mad:

[RedSidedSPR]

Big help, thanks! :D

Kidding. As in, not serious.

[snakehill]

Anytime!:rolleyes:

[Mommy2many]

Sorry!
Try a professional flea bath for your dog. That might help. Also, bomb the house and maybe even the car if he rides in it.
Wash everything! I know that sucks, I had to do that around 7 years ago when our Rottweiler got her first and only case of fleas. Turns out, they came in from my daughter who was working in a Haunted Corn Field on the weekends.

[RedSidedSPR]

I said I was kidding, dont be sorry, and thanks. We've "bombed" everything. Not the car but he hasnt ridden in it for months. We've washed everything. It's been quite some time hes had them forever!! (as in a month)

[snakehill]

I'm telling you we have tried everything too! I swear they are immune to every treatment available!:(

[RedSidedSPR]

And I seriously doubt anyone (pro) could bathe him more thougoly than us. I mean, it's not humanly possible! But were gonna pay the darn $40 and have some pros do it.

[Mommy2many]

He goes outside alot?

If he does and spends alot of time, you may not be able to prevent this for now.

My dog went outside on a run and in 10 years never had fleas until that one time. We traced it back to my daughter's room.

[RedSidedSPR]

He goes out a lot, but not lately. Its been so hot, the last few months he's really not out much.

[RedSidedSPR]

He's ha them before but it's been kinda easy to get rid of them...

[Mommy2many]

That really sucks then...:(

[kibakiba]

Lavender oil repels fleas. You put a few drops at the base of the tail, and on the neck. My friend uses that method on her outdoors cat. Works like a charm.

You could also spray a 50/50 mix of apple cider vinegar on your dogs skin. It makes it more acidic, so the fleas wont like it. Apple cider vinegar also makes hair soft, I use it in my own hair as a rinse :D When it dries, it doesn't smell like vinegar anymore.

I also found this online:
Lemon Spray Repellent
Cut a lemon into quarters, cover with boiling water and let it steep overnight. In the morning, spray all over your dog, especially behind the ears and around the head generally (be careful of his eyes), around the base of the tail, and under your dog’s legs.

[RedSidedSPR]

Thank you!! I will try them all!! (not at once of course)

[kibakiba]

I'm sure you could actually mic the lavender and vinegar water together, you'd have to shake it before you spray it, but I'm sure that might work. I'm not sure, though.

[ConcinusMan]

I don't understand why you're having such a problem. I just use frontline once a month and I could literally bury them in fleas but they won't go anywhere near my dogs.

[snakehill]

Frontline dosen't even seem to be working!:( Maybe they are worse here because of the heat?!

[RedSidedSPR]

I used frontline this time, and most other times!! Didn't do a thing!