Other pets (pics and discussions)

[Hollis_Steed]

Just like any bad haircut...just wait two weeks! Beautiful horse!

[drache]

I kind of like them freshly grown out
they're kind of springy and rakish looking

[Kevinh583]

Found this little guy on my front door this afternoon. He had a tick problem as you can see in the picture. Word must have gotten out that I am offering a safe home for reptiles.

I didn't have any tweezers and it took me a good half hour to get em off using a knife and a fingure nail. Luckily the brave little fella seemed to understand that I was trying to help and cooperated nicely. May keep him for a while, just to make sure he recovers of course.

http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a479/Kevinh583/lizard.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Nice save.
Good job, Doc.

[drache]

what a pretty little guy
what is he?

[Kevinh583]

what a pretty little guy
what is he?

Five lined skink. No idea what the scientific name might be.

[Stefan-A]

Five lined skink. No idea what the scientific name might be.
Plestiodon(Eumeces) fasciatus. If you're sure it's a five-lined skink.

[ConcinusMan]

Beautiful skink. I found that they really like small running spiders or other soft insects with lots of movement. They like to chase their food. If you're keeping him, don't forget to provide moist places with moss, leaves, and plenty of cover.

I got rid of mites and ticks on them by rubbing them with a cat flea collar and it apparently didn't harm the lizard. I also placed pieces of the collar in their enclosure, inside a small container with tiny holes in it. A couple of months later, the ticks were all gone and never returned.

The name Five-lined Skink can refer to different species of skinks: Plestiodon fasciatus, the Eastern Red-headed Skink of North America and Western skinks.
Mine were the western version caught in the mountains of NE California.

If your skink doesn't have 5 stripes, it's probably a different but closely related skink. I like them. It's fun to put a fluttering moth in their enclosure and watch their antics as they try to catch it.

I'm pretty sure you have a Eumeces tetragrammus there. (4 lined skink)

Skinks - Skinks: Scincidae - Blue Tongue, Five-Lined, Mullet, Monkey Tail Skink (http://repticzone.com/forums/Skinks/index.html)

[Kevinh583]

I'm pretty sure you have a Eumeces tetragrammus there. (4 lined skink)



You could be right I will count the lines when I get home. :) I saw a picture of the five lined skink online and it looked exactly like it (ie yellow lines blue tail) didn't realize that there was a four lined variety as well. :o

I will have the collar thing next time (i tried vegetable oil based on someones post on this site but it didn't work), it sure was a pain to try to get them off by hand when dealing with ticks the size of a pinhead and a fragile little skink. I was just going to keep on some paper towels for now, with a few things to hide under. Not sure how much of a danger infection poses at this point but I was trying to keep the enclosure as clean as possible.

[guidofatherof5]

The T.radix Ranch had a first occur this morning. A baby Fox Snake hatched out. The mother of this baby was brought to me by another Deputy. 2 days after she arrived she laid a clutch of eggs. This gave me a chance to use my new Father's Day gift from my kids. The eggs started off looking pretty good but slowly the ones on the outside started changing colors and drying out. I kept a close eye on the humidity and so I don't think it was anything I did(hope not). Only 2 eggs still looked viable so I was hoping we'd get at least a couple new babies. I still think we might see another snake soon.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/fox4.jpg

[infernalis]

Congrats Steve...

[MasSalvaje]

That's really cool Steve, it looks really good! Good luck with any others there may still be.

-Thomas

[guidofatherof5]

Snake #2 is starting to emerge. She's already been named. "Shy" Since she seems to be taking her time coming out.
Snake #1 is named "Katie" after my oldest daughter's friend.
I've never hatched out snakes before. It's very cool.:)
I love snakes!

[Hollis_Steed]

Cool Steve! Another first at the Ranch!

[Snakers]

Nice steve!

[Mommy2many]

Congratulations! What a cute baby!

[Spankenstyne]

Congrats! Well done.

[guidofatherof5]

*Update*

Shy is still standing by her name. She's hold up in the shell. I've peeled away a little more shell and checked on her.
She appears to be fine but reluctant to make her appearance to the world.
I'm keeping a moist paper towel over the egg to keep her hydrated. I can pulled the shell back and get a good look at her/his face.
If she's not out by the end of the day, than I will have to evict her from her old home and introduce her to her new one.

*Updated update*:D

As I was typing the first update she decided to join the world. I'll try to get some better photos today.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/baby_fox.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/baby_fox1.jpg

[GarterGeek]

After three years of blood, sweat and tears, I have finally found an eastern milksnake!!! It was under a sheet of tin. Anyhow, I thought I'd post pictures, and say thanks to everybody who has given me advice at some point or another.

The snake has an injury on its tail and I'm applying neosporin. Is there anything else I should do?

I just got the snake a couple days ago, so I know it will take some time to settle down. I heard that milksnakes are very difficult to feed in captivity. Does anybody have any advice? Since this snake is wild-caught I'm willing to feed it amphibians to get it started.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//655/medium/100_4316-2.jpg

Here is the tail injury:
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//655/medium/100_4323-2.jpg

Thank you! I'm so excited!

[GARTERKID]

I have had many many eastern milks and feeding isnt usually a problem start on live then pre killed then F/T always worked for me.
I love E milks the eyes are just astonishing its like they draw me in.
john

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful snake. Can't help you with care but keep us posted about the injury.
Best of luck.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

I am gonna have to move this thread into the "other pets" thread. Nothing against you or your lovely new milk! Just what we do :o

anyways, I have never had trouble getting an eastern milk to eat. In fact all of the ones I have ever housed were all from the wild and all ate f/t rodents as their first meal. The albino my mom caught in our yard is eating like a horse... chowing down on f/t pinks! Give the snake plenty of places to hide. nice and low to the ground. Leave a f/t rodent underneath the snake's favorite hiding place after she settles in for a bit. That's how I started any of the ones I've ever cared for. Heck my boyfriend's dad brought me a juvenile that had some nasty scabbed over wounds all over him, looked as if he were attacked by a pecking bird.... even he desperately tried to eat a pinky right out of my hands. He couldn't though... something wasn't right and he seemed unable to actually pick the thing up and eat it... and he didn't make it. good luck with her! If she refuses to eat, make sure you set her free early enough for her to go find a place to brumate!

[guidofatherof5]

I think we've created a monster(nice one) in the house. Tank likes to catch some sleep while she's out of the container. I am so amazed her her docile attitude towards the entire family. She is a one-of-a-kind turtle.
The second photo on the left clearly shows a content sleeping turtle.
Curved neck, one leg along the neck and the other pushed back.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank13.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank9.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank12.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

Injury doesn't look too bad. Probably got bit by a protective mother rodent as her babies were being eaten. Give that snake plenty of hides, as has already been mentioned, and don't disturb it too much. Doesn't hurt to have some moist areas/hides too.

I've had a few garters that were "jittery" and shy about eating. Putting a pinky or piece of fish in their favorite hide and leaving them alone for a few hours sometimes works and get's them to eat.

A milk snake like yours should be fed pinkies. Try thawing and moistening one for her, then back off an give her plenty of privacy. You should probably wait a week or even two weeks before trying this.

[reptile65]

Here's my corn snake:

[BUSHSNAKE]

from my invert collection

[gartermorphs]

what type of tarantula is on your hand in the second photo?

[ConcinusMan]

Looks more like some kind of jumping spider. Of course, I'm probably wrong.

Once in a while I find really big jumping spiders on the south outside wall of my house. They look just like that guy but jet black with deep red. Really cool looking.

[BUSHSNAKE]

its Cyriocosmus elegans a dwarf tarantula species from Trinidad Island, they max out at about 2 inches, one of my favorites

[MasSalvaje]

Very cool Joe! I have not got into the spiders they are next on my list. My female Hadrurus arizonensis just had babies. It is the first time I have been able to get her to breed with my male, now I am just hoping the babies make it to their second instar.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn48/Massalvaje/100_0222.jpg

-Thomas

[BUSHSNAKE]

thanks Tom, i have breeding groups of Avicularia minatrix, Cyriocosmus elegans, Cyriocosmus ritea, Euathlus sp. "yellow" and Hapolopus sp. Colombia and have a female Euathlus sp. "yellow" with an eggsac now, hopefully its good. good luck with your scorps...

[Holly]

New Noodle pictures! Sitting in the food dish, hoping to be fed, like usual!

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/[IMG]http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n330/teensy_cuteness/DSC01391.jpghttp://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n330/teensy_cuteness/DSC01392.jpg

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n330/teensy_cuteness/DSC01391.jpg

[IMG]http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n330/teensy_cuteness/DSC01392.jpg

[Snakers]

Noodle is very cute.

[guidofatherof5]

You read my mind(that was quick) I was going to PM you for a Noodle update. Thanks.

[Holly]

Do they get much bigger than he is now? He's coiled up in a drink lid about the size of a Gatorade cap. When I found him at the end of October he still had the little belly slit so I'm guessing he just came out of his mom/egg.

[Holly]

Forgot to add that when my husband fed him last night(I can't bear to touch the bugs right now) he stayed sitting in the food dish and just opened his mouth as soon as the lid came off his tank. Didn't even move to come get the worm, waited until it was pretty much placed in his open mouth. He has us whipped.

[drache]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4291862020_60bd9a6bac_z.jpg

the furry one - Rascal - just died
acute kidney failure; no idea why; was only three years old
we are quite bereaved

[guidofatherof5]

Sorry to hear about your loss, Rhea.

[MaritimeGirl]

we have multiple snakes and lizards(Wont list them all) 2 cats, a miniature harlequin poodle 6 cockatiels, a maroon bellied conure and a ferret.

[reptile65]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4291862020_60bd9a6bac_z.jpg

the furry one - Rascal - just died
acute kidney failure; no idea why; was only three years old
we are quite bereaved

Rascal was a beautiful cat. I'm sorry about your loss. I also have a black and white kitty named Rascal.

[drache]

we don't have a good picture of him
it's very hard to let go, and I've been crying a lot

[mustang]

sorry to hear that

[Stefan-A]

Really sorry to hear it, Rhea. :(

[jitami]

Rhea, I'm so sorry for your loss of Drake :(

[Atlas511]

Retics!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/IMG_1107.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/IMG_9976.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/easter3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/IMG_1251.jpg

[mustang]

love the big yellow one (the eating one)

[guidofatherof5]

I hop that wasn't the Easter Bunny.:D (no mistakes)

[gartermorphs]

I love um and would have one except theres the problem of what they eat i can wrap my head around mice just not bunnies!

[Chondro788]

I lve the pic of that tiny male breeding the huge female!!!! :eek:

[Snakers]

Sorry for your loss, I recently lost my oldest dog:(

[Lulu Bennett]

Since i don't have my San Frans or my Checkereds any more i thought i would show pics of my only rep left.
This is Puff (as in Puff the Magic Bearded Dragon) He is about two-ish now (i think :confused:) but he is my baby.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v307/230/75/561816270/n561816270_1584543_1134.jpg
This was the pic i was sent before i picked him up, such a little cutie.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v317/230/75/561816270/n561816270_1660324_1192.jpg
This was when i finally got him home. He was about 6 months when i got him.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs116.snc1/4851_120335166270_561816270_3332000_3242806_n.jpg
And this is him out playing in the garden earlier this year.

I will try and take some new pics of him soon.

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking beardie. We've got one in the house.

[reptile65]

This is my new crested gecko:

[infernalis]

This is my new crested gecko:


Very cool, congrats.

[ConcinusMan]

Very cute lizards!

[Lulu Bennett]

This is my new crested gecko:
He is cute but the eyes would freak me out a bit lol

[Holly]

This is my new crested gecko:

Aww, she's lovely! I have 2 of them as well.

[drache]

both cool lizards
no home should be without a beardie
and I love cresties too
they don't have eyelids, so they need to lick their eyeballs to keep them moistened and clean

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, lizards are awesome but I kinda got burned out on them since I bred them (sceloporus ssp) for about 10 years. I did enjoy it, but much higher maintenance (and much bigger tanks and expensive equipment) than snakes and I sure love my garters!

Some other people's pics of the lizard species I used to breed and sell to pet stores:

Clark's Spiny lizard:
http://www.wildherps.com/images/herps/standard/04081423PD_Clark_spiny.jpg

Western Fence Lizard:
http://www.fs.fed.us/psw/topics/wildlife/herp/images/scoc.jpg

Uta stansburiana (Side-blotched Lizard)
http://faculty.ucr.edu/%7Echappell/INW/herps/sideblotched2.jpg

They were loads of fun to watch at feeding and breeding time.

[ConcinusMan]

And one more...

Sagebrush lizard (sceloporus graciosus)
http://www.reptilesofaz.org/Graphics/Lizards/SCEGRA-M-08b.jpg

I had all those. Two females and a male require a minimum 55 gallon long tank and special high-UV lighting and daily feeding of live insects. I had many successful clutches that hatched and thrived. Unfortunately, most people can't even manage to keep them alive, let alone breed them. My only buyers were pet stores. Any that didn't sell, unfortunately sat there and ended up dying 'cause they just didn't care for them properly. That's one of the reasons I just couldn't continue doing it.

I ended up taking all my breeder adults with me on a trip to CA and I released them in appropriate habitat where others of their kind could be seen.

[kibakiba]

Aww... Poor lizards. I like those western fence lizards :)The blue colour is amazingly pretty. However, I'd rather keep my beautiful garter snakes :D

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, Male fence lizards in some areas can appear, even from above, to be very beautiful and blue/purple. They can even suddenly appear to change color when a food item presents itself, or another male wanders into his territory. It's so awesome to find a dominant male defending his territory. Of course, they flee and hide. Sit still for a while and he'll come back out, sit on his rock "throne" and give quite a display for the females. Very challenging to maintain in captivity but also very rewarding.

The problem in captivity is the need for lots of UVA AND UVB, a lot of room, and a constant need for live insects. They won't drink from a water dish so forget about that. After several weeks of hot dry weather, they will only drink if you drip water onto a flat rock for example, then they will lick it off.

Not so much of a challenge to "brumate" or provide a winter period, followed by a "spring" and getting them to breed. Lost quite a few females because when it's time for egg laying, they are very picky. Some die if they don't find a site deep enough, warm enough, or just right. If they can't find a suitable egg laying burrow (they often dig several holes to the point of exhaustion) they get egg bound and die.:(

Thankfully, I only lost very few females this way.

The problem often is, the babies housed together grow up, reach sexual maturity, and if you have 3 males in a small area, the stress alone can kill them. males are very territorial, but are also the most beautiful.

[kibakiba]

Wow I never knew that about them. I used to ant one, along with dozens of other reptiles, but I'll stick to garters... and when I move in with my boyfriend he wants a ball python or 2, a couple tegu's (which I also like) and some geckos. I have a feeling we wouldn't even have a bedroom. Everything would be reptile tanks haha.

[ConcinusMan]

Oh I wouldn't go so far as to say that.. but it's good to have pets of any kind that live with you, and you can both love together. That's awesome.

[kibakiba]

Indeed it is. It was nice to find someone who didn't find snakes ugly and... "Slimy". The only problem is, he also wants a crocodile. It's not happening. Haha, it'd be cool but I couldn't handle something that could potentially harm one of us. Or our kids if we ever had any ;)

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah croc would be a little over the top. Heck, I think 20 foot pythons are a bit ridiculous. Not too many responsible owners out there. One might even argue that owning a croc is irresponsible in and of itself so there would be no such thing as responsible keepers.

[kibakiba]

Yeah... He loves the really big reptiles. He wanted a monitor... I think and Asian Water Monitor. They get as big as me (I'm short and pudgy ;))... He wanted to put it on a harness and walk it around the neighborhood for its exercise. Lol. It'd be cool, but we'd need a little swimming pool for it. Since for the next 4-5 years he's going to be in college and a rookie game designer... It wont happen :p

[Holly]

Haha, if my husband wasn't here to stop me I would have a ton more pets! I want a couple more crested geckos and maybe a gargoyle one too!

[kibakiba]

Cresties are cute, I want one in the future. I like their eyes :D

[guidofatherof5]

Well it's about time. I have my first baby racer.
This is a striking and biting machine.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/racer.jpg

[kibakiba]

Awww, just like Runt! Beautiful snake, Steve

[mustang]

what species? is it a coachwhip? (red color morph/phase & speed gives them the name red racer)

[guidofatherof5]

I believe it is a Yellow Bellied Racer. Time will tell.
Can't seem to find any baby photos to do a comparison on.

[mustang]

point for steve (again) i looked it up i think ur right "coluber constrictor mormon"

[BUSHSNAKE]

Tarantula breedings, first is Euathlus sp. "yellow"(with eggsac)from Chili, this may be this first U.S. breeding of this species, and Holothele sp. from Colombia another uncommonly bred species

[ConcinusMan]

Cool! Big hairy spiders!

[Charis]

My brother is thinking of getting a tarantula. I'm not totally thrilled by the idea, they both fascinate & repel me. But I've been helping him research their care online & they are interesting critters!

[Atlas511]

My little girl is 3 years old!!!! And the star of my collection!
8-2007
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/8-2007.jpg
8-2008
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/8-2008.jpg
8-2009
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/8-2009.jpg
8-2010
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/1-21.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/2-18.jpg

[Stefan-A]

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/snakes10/bamse1.jpg

Not mine.

[reptile65]

My little girl is 3 years old!!!! And the star of my collection!
8-2007
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/8-2007.jpg
8-2008
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/8-2008.jpg
8-2009
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/8-2009.jpg
8-2010
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/1-21.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Atlas511/Pythons/2-18.jpg

That is a BIG snake!!! :eek:

[otis lee]

new garter cousins project!
male cape
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits032.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits027.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits031.jpg
female
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits037.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits041.jpg

[otis lee]

male motley great basin
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits024.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits023.jpg
female blonde GB
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits021.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits019.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits013.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful snakes.

[otis lee]

visual red het albino female
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits006.jpg
visual red albino male
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits004.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits011.jpg
and i already had this albino female bull
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b318/otis1976/pits042.jpg
Thanks for looking!
i just got thies as a down payment on a snapper morph trade!

[Charis]

Got a great deal on this guy & his setup off craigslist a few days ago. Never see these in Idaho & this guy is even the locality I like the best! (I'm not actually positive what the locality is, there are about 5 that could be right) He doesn't have a name yet. Thinking either Sebastian or Quinn. These were taken in the car on the way back from picking him up.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/000_0042_00.jpg
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/000_0043.jpg
Better shot of his head.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/000_0080.jpg
And the setup that came with him.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/000_0056.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Definitely the second most interesting boa found in the US. :p

Just kidding, it is a nice addition. :)

[Charis]

Thanks!
I don't know, I do find Rubbers fascinating. Too bad they are so darn ugly! (yes, I'm shallow!)

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking snake and setup.

[ConcinusMan]

Those gopher snakes are gorgeous! one of my favorite species to keep. I always enjoyed keeping and catching them. I used to find Rosy boas in the wild too, east of San Diego but those were a bit more colorful. Sort of a burgandy or rusty red color.

[Mommy2many]

Beautiful acquisition!

[ConcinusMan]

Thanks!
I don't know, I do find Rubbers fascinating. Too bad they are so darn ugly! (yes, I'm shallow!)


Oh, I don't know about that. I had one once that was olive green/yellow that was pretty nice looking but yeah, for the most part, they look like dog doo.:p

[drache]

I like rosy boas, but my vet convinced me that I'd find them boring compared to garters

[ConcinusMan]

Your vet wouldn't necessarily be misleading you in that matter. Both North American boas are quite sedentary and secretive. Not much interaction to be had. They often go months without moving or feeding so yeah, I would agree. They are boring.

[Spankenstyne]

It depends on what you're after. While I prefer my feisty snakes, I do have a soft spot for some of my more sedentary stuff too & can understand how some folks prefer the less active end. I plan on hopefully getting some Rubber Boas one of these days. I do have some scaly slugs that I enjoy though that include Kenyans & Rough Scaled sand boas
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Sand%20Boas/rs1ajuly202010.jpg

Nice to see some other Pituophis enthusiasts. This thread is so big I can't remember if I shared any pics of some of mine but:

Black Pine girl:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Colubrids/fpml1aaug252010.jpg



One of my Cape Gophers
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Colubrids/capecloserjuly52010.jpg

Mexican Lined Pine (have 6 here)
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/lineaticollis/oct2509pl1b.jpg

One of the young ones last June
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/lineaticollis/linedjune191c.jpg

Northern Pine
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Colubrids/nopine1aoct19.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

Love the pituophus snakes and many other colubrids but there's something about a short fat thick boa or ball python with no tail to speak of that I just find unappealing. I think they're gross looking. Dunno why.

[kibakiba]

I'm the same way, Richard. But at the same time, I wouldn't mind owning one. Though if I had to pick which was better out of any snake... My garters would be at the top :D The snake in the first picture reminds me of a catfish! Haha

[ConcinusMan]

a scaly slug:p

[Spankenstyne]

A sexy slug ;)
lol it kinda does look like a catfish now though with the tongue tips sticking out..

They aren't everyone's cup o' tea, but like garters not everyone appreciates their beauty. Would be a pretty boring world if we all liked the same things.

[kibakiba]

A sexy slug... Nice!
I know what you mean. I love all reptiles, but I prefer my garters. :D
To me all reptiles are beautiful in their own way.

[ConcinusMan]

This is true

[guidofatherof5]

Very nice snakes, Chris.

[drache]

nice snakes, especially the pines
I used to feel that way about short fat snakes, but my hognose changed me

[ConcinusMan]

Well, hognosed snakes are quite charming I suppose.

[drache]

Well, hognosed snakes are quite charming I suppose.
charming - yes
good word

[Charis]

Actually, the mellow personality was why I wanted a Rosy. Love the garters & corns but you have to pay a lot of attention to them when you are handling them. I'd babysat a baby Ball python for a few months & really loved his temperament, but I didn't want a snake that got that big. So a desert Rosy is perfect, the temperament I want & he is unlikely to get bigger than 2'.

[ConcinusMan]

2? I don't know about desert rosies but I used to catch coastal rosies in San Diego county that were around 4 feet.

[Charis]

Coastal rosys are the biggest & do often get to 4', but most of the others stay around 2' to 3', depending on locale. Males are usually smaller, as well.

[guidofatherof5]

Here is our girl Tank sleeping in her blanket. Yes, she has her own blanket and a heating blanket. The second photo is of my son Kale and Tank as she woke up.
Then the last photo, that's our male snapping turtle(Napoleon) he's just now getting adjusted to life on the Ranch. I weighs in at 3 lbs and is for the most part uncontrollable.
If not held correctly he drives his nail into you. Hoping someday to hatch little snappers.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank14.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank7.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/male3.jpg

[kibakiba]

Pretty turtles :) My snakes have a favourite blanket that I take out for them to sleep in and crawl around in when they're on my bed :D Our dogs also had blankets. Our old dog Scooby had the same blanket the snakes like. Lots of memories with that blanket.

[guidofatherof5]

Here's one of our baby Painted Turtles out for some sun. These days are coming to an end for our little ones.
HerpNet.net - Iowa Reptiles and Amphibians - Painted Turtle - Chrysemys picta (http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=73&Itemid=26)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/sun.jpg

[Charis]

That turtle is just too cute! The picture of total bliss!

[kibakiba]

Cute little one! I like how his legs are sticking straight back, it makes him look like he's reallllly enjoying it :D Also looks like he's got a little smile on his face.

[guidofatherof5]

She does look very comfortable. Turtles are a lot of fun but also a lot of work. More work than garter snakes.
I'm old enough to remember buying little turtles at the pet shop for a dollar. Those were the days.:rolleyes:

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, they were only a dollar back then because they looked so boring compared to a baby dinosaur. Those were about $5 I think. You remember Steve, how much was a baby T. rex ?:p

[guidofatherof5]

Very funny, very funny.
Laugh at the older guys expense.:(:D

[Snakers]

man, That turtle Tank is like a dog....so tame..Wish my red ear slider was like that

[guidofatherof5]

It's pretty bad around here. Last night as I was getting read to sleep(on the couch) I noticed Tank had come out of her blanket and was cruising around the living room. I put her blanket on the couch and put her in it. She snuggled right in a went to sleep. With her on the couch I wasn't able to get comfortable, so I slept on the floor. Didn't want to disturb the princess.
Can you say spoiled turtle?:D

[Snakers]

It's pretty bad around here. Last night as I was getting read to sleep(on the couch) I noticed Tank had come out of her blanket and was cruising around the living room. I put her blanket on the couch and put her in it. She snuggled right in a went to sleep. With her on the couch I wasn't able to get comfortable, so I slept on the floor. Didn't want to disturb the princess.
Can you say spoiled turtle?:D
WOW, The turtle sleeps better then you:D

[Tyrel26]

is this turtle house trained? lol or does it poop much?

[guidofatherof5]

is this turtle house trained? lol or does it poop much?

As a rule she holds it until she's back in her water. We've only had once incident when she was sleeping with my oldest.
Luckily she was in her own blanket.:eek:

[Tyrel26]

LOL! Lucky is right, thats a fairly big turtle, thus....lol

[guidofatherof5]

Both of my snapping turtles are pooping machines. I have to change their water at least 3 times a day. I don't want them in dirty water but I've pulled some snapping turtles out of some water that almost made be throw-up. They were covered with leeches and this mud from hell.
They were perfectly fine with it.

[guidofatherof5]

Here is our Tank waking up this morning. Before the kids say good morning to me they go see Tank. Tank usually yawns a few times each morning. I'm hoping to get some good down the mouth shots soon. Tank doesn't mind the camera. She's a very curious turtle and smells everything. The kids are always taking thing to her to smell. She also chased the male out of the living room the other day. She's very territorial with him but doesn't seem to mind the dog. The male on the other hand goes after our dog. The dog just jumps on to the couch.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank52.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank42.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank33.jpg

[kibakiba]

Tank is so pretty :D I love the last shot, I know shes yawning but it looks like she's saying "I want food, put here please!" haha, so cute.

[guidofatherof5]

Sept. 28th, 2009 Then, Sept. 28th, 2010
She's a growing machine. The amazing thing is she did all that growing with a very heavy parasite load.
Now, she's clean and she can devote all her food to growing.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Sept_28_2009.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Sept_28_2010_Quick_e-mail_view.jpg

[Mommy2many]

She definitely has the right name!

[Charis]

Here is my only living Wasatch Reptile Expo pickup, though if I had more room one of Don's melaninistic (sp?) plains would have come home too.
Esme ~ Female proven Rosy boa.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/000_0141.jpg
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/000_0140.jpg
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/000_0139.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking snake.

[kibakiba]

She's pretty looking :D

[MasSalvaje]

If that is the one I think it is I was very tempted to get a pair. I was also tempted by the Pyros the same guy had.

Good looking girl.

-Thomas

[Charis]

Thanks everyone!
Probably was the same person. He had 3 pairs of adult Rosy Boas, a Mexican pair, a Bay of LA pair & one more pair that I don't remember the locality of right now.

[Floof]

Here are some shots of my non-garter pets... Which is all of them, for now...

First: Mallie, my '07 female Anery Corn Snake.
Second: the [nameless, for now] '10 male San Diego Gopher Snake.
Third: Man Ray, male rescue Bearded Dragon (blackbearding in the pic because he'd just discovered women)
Fourth: Blossom (top) and Buttercup (bottom), female rescue Bearded dragons.
Last but not least, Stump and Sammy, the family dogs. :)

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking crew. Thanks for sharing.

[guidofatherof5]

Sexing Tank I felt was pretty easy since her cloaca doesn't extend very far past the shell. Compared to the male I already have it was easy to see Tank was a female.
Tank on the other hand has been showing signs of being a male. First, Tank would show aggression towards the other turtle. Chasing him out of the living room. Tank is also aggressive to her own reflection, chasing it across the room. During these incidents Tank sways her head back and forth and opens and closes her mouth. These are all male aggression indicators.
I took Tank to Des Moines to have a snapping turtle expert sex her. I was told that from the view of the cloaca it was a female but they also mentioned that the shell looked male and that Tank also had very large front paws which is indicative of male snapping turtles.
My family had settles on Tank as being our little Princess.
All has changed as Tank flashed his male tool the other night. So, now it's been decided that out Princess is actually a Prince.
My expert in Des Moines thinks Tank is still immature and that the cloaca will move outward as he grows. He also said this is a good indicator that Tank is going to be a large turtle.
In any event Tank is welcome in our home for the rest of his life. Since Tank will probably outlive me I started discussing with my kids about our responsibility to Tanks future. Always making sure he is in a safe situation.
Tank continues to captivate my family and is the magnet in the living room. Tank spends on average 20 hours a day out of his enclosure. Much of that time is sleeping but he does spend time with the kids at night. He'll sit by them while they do homework and he seems to like climbing on them, then sitting there. He's also very curious about thing, smelling any new items he comes across.
Long live Prince Tank.:D
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank61.jpg http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank71.jpg

[mustang]

haha your turtle should be with Queen(the band)

[guidofatherof5]

Tank has a minor respiratory infection and is being treated.
4 months age Tank was 1 lb 7 oz. Today, Tank is at 2 lbs 15 oz.
He's really putting on the size.

[DerekB]

So, I'm new to this forum and I have a question about posting pet photos. The photo icon I see wants me to enter a URL for the photos I want to post. Can't they be uploaded from my computer in some way instead? I'll share my dog, cat, mice and Mexican black kingsnake at some point.

[guidofatherof5]

If you are on the gallery page just click on the upload photo button. Then browse to where your photo is at. Double click the photo and then the upload button.
After you have it uploaded, double click your photo, then hit the "Copy to clipboard" button.
Then you can go to the thread you want the photo in and paste it in.
I hope this helps.
Just a note, check the properties of your photo:

Maximum File Size:2048k file size limit.
ZIP file uploads allowed (5.12mb limit).

[ConcinusMan]

So, I'm new to this forum and I have a question about posting pet photos. The photo icon I see wants me to enter a URL for the photos I want to post. Can't they be uploaded from my computer in some way instead? I'll share my dog, cat, mice and Mexican black kingsnake at some point.


Personally, I prefer the method you tried because you only have to upload a photo once for posting to multiple forums and/or posts. here's how: http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/garter-snake-lounge/7794-how-insert-images-directly-hotlink-into-your-posts.html

BTW, you obviously have to upload the photo from your computer to somewhere on the web before you have a URL to enter in the box. It's just that the photo will appear full sized in your post, even if the actual file is located on another site or server.

If that's confusing then you can always scroll down.:rolleyes:

Try looking below the "submit reply" button and you'll see "manage attachments".;)

[DerekB]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55321103@N07/Thanks for the input. I'll to experiment and see what happens.

[infernalis]

Hey Derek, That photo you just tried to post is an invalid URL.

The absolute simplest way to include photo is to just click the gallery tab at the top of this page and follow the instructions.

The admin of this site has provided a wonderful photo gallery feature that is free for any member to use, and unlike photo bucket or other services, you are ensured your photo will display for the life of the forum.

all too many times people will use photobucket and then let the photobucket account go dormant causing the pictures to no longer display.

That gallery is awesome and free, give it a try, it even automatically generates the line of code required to insert your pictures into your posts. ;)

[ConcinusMan]

Hey Derek, That photo you just tried to post is an invalid URL.

all too many times people will use photobucket and then let the photobucket account go dormant causing the pictures to no longer display.

I've been saying it all along. Don't use photobucket it sux. Try imageshack. No annoying issues.




The admin of this site has provided a wonderful photo gallery feature that is free for any member to use, and unlike photo bucket or other services, you are ensured your photo will display for the life of the forum.

How wonderful it is, is a matter of opinion I suppose.:cool: You know, its funny you should mention ..."you are ensured your photo..." because when I finally uploaded my first group of photos to the gallery, a few days later, they were gone. So were everybody elses pics uploaded (and posts) during the same period.:cool: Either I'm missing some important detail on how to use the gallery, or it really is a PITA.

Brain posted this thread http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/sale-trade-adoption/7768-various-snake.html

He says he's uploaded photos but where are they? good luck find them. Now, if you could just click his username and choose something like "view brains albums" that would be the intuitive thing to do, but noooo... can't make it that easy. You have to go to the gallery, and painstakingly go through a list of users... and... and pray you get lucky... it's a pain. Heck, it's not any easier to find my own dang albums.

Well, we're off topic anyway.

*rant off*

[kibakiba]

Maybe it's just you, Richard. ;)
My pictures are perfectly fine on the Thamphotos gallery, and I actually prefer it. Imageshack is super confusing to me. So is photobucket, that place is annoying.

[ConcinusMan]

Anyone else "super confused" by simplicity and intuitive interface? Anyone have trouble understanding what the "upload" button means? How about "My images" anyone have any idea what those do? What about "View image" Anyone have trouble copying and pasting a URL? Yeah, that's really hard stuff isn't it?

[mustang]

Anyone else "super confused" by simplicity and intuitive interface? Anyone have trouble understanding what the "upload" button means? How about "My images" anyone have any idea what those do? What about "View image" Anyone have trouble copying and pasting a URL? Yeah, that's really hard stuff isn't it?
its as complicated as vista lol

[ConcinusMan]

Vista isn't complicated - it's just unstable.

[kibakiba]

I'm a slow learner tyvm. That's why I had to drop out of school. I wasn't learning anything. It's not nice to make fun of "slow" people. :rolleyes:

[ConcinusMan]

But I can sure bad-mouth a slow OS.:p Vista sux!

[kibakiba]

Never used vista. IMO my xp is perfectly fine. Well, I cant change my OS even if i wanted to.

[mustang]

my netbook (im on right now after finishing an ap us history quiz that i aced) is xp and i love it!i chose it over the window 7 starter

[ConcinusMan]

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2487/dsc01542medium.jpg

[radtad]

Nice job on Acing test Mustang

[Ryachanira]

My bengal kitties:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa66/Ryachanira/iPhoneTransfer1024327.jpg

Gerbils:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa66/Ryachanira/HappierTimes.jpg

[mustang]

Nice job on Acing test Mustangthanks ushistory is a breez

[ConcinusMan]

That's because it's a good story - mostly fiction.:cool:

[mustang]

That's because it's a good story - mostly fiction.:cool:
do i sense a little loyalist in you!:D

[Snakeknot]

So just when I decide no more snakes, work decides to enable me AGAIN! A snake has been hanging around and everyone had seen it but me. Then they caught it and tried to save it for me but it got loose! Then someone was doling up medication for a dog and reached into the pill jar shelf and came back with a snake! Now normally I would take it home and release it in a more wild place than the suburban vet hospital but we just had our first few hard freezes so I'm gonna try wintering the little guy at my place. Its definitely NOT a garter. I'm 90% sure its a baby black rat snake but what do you guys think? ( I can't stand black snakes! The ones I have run into are far too grumpy! )


Devon

[guidofatherof5]

It looks like a young Fox Snake. Not sure if they are common to your area.
Very nice snake if that's what it is.
Glad it was found.
I have two young ones that were born on the Ranch. One if not both will be leaving on Thurs. I've gotten them jobs with some of the local conservation officers.

[DIRK]

here are my non garters

Opheodrys aestivus
Diadophis punctatus punctatus 1.1 ( pics coming soon )
Acrantophis dumerili
Mix Dog Bacchus

[MasSalvaje]

So just when I decide no more snakes, work decides to enable me AGAIN! A snake has been hanging around and everyone had seen it but me. Then they caught it and tried to save it for me but it got loose! Then someone was doling up medication for a dog and reached into the pill jar shelf and came back with a snake! Now normally I would take it home and release it in a more wild place than the suburban vet hospital but we just had our first few hard freezes so I'm gonna try wintering the little guy at my place. Its definitely NOT a garter. I'm 90% sure its a baby black rat snake but what do you guys think? ( I can't stand black snakes! The ones I have run into are far too grumpy! )


Devon

You would be correct in yor assumption, Black Rat Snake!

-Thomas

[radtad]

Cute little fellow

[indigoman]

They have a great appetite love pinkies. love to climb and are super escape artists, probably looking for a place to brumate.

[infernalis]

my black racer..

Toby is certainly a very curious snake, as long as I don't touch him, he will take pinks off the tongs, he let me do this whole photo shoot today while he was getting ready to shed, He even came up and "sniffed" the camera a couple times.

I love this guy's attitude, He's one tough little cookie.

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/tibieface.jpg



http://www.reptard.info/Toby/Toby.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/toby1.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/toby3A.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/Toby/toby4.jpg


http://www.reptard.info/Toby/tobieshed.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

I like Toby.
My baby Racer passed a couple weeks ago.

[ConcinusMan]

They have a great appetite love pinkies. love to climb and are super escape artists, probably looking for a place to brumate.

It's been my experience that a snake that is constantly looking for a way out, is not comfortable in it's enclosure under the current conditions.;) This activity can result in injured snouts.:(

My snakes, when it's that time of year and they're looking for a place to brumate, do not go up. They root around on the bottom looking for a way underground.;)

[infernalis]

I like Toby.
My baby Racer passed a couple weeks ago.

So sorry to hear that Steve.

Toby is one of my "special" snakes.

I cant even lay a finger on him without getting bit, but I have always had a thing for snakes with attitudes.

[ConcinusMan]

I like Toby.
My baby Racer passed a couple weeks ago.

:eek:

Sorry to hear that Steve. I wonder what happened?:(

He was so cool!

The only experience I've had with racers were WC western yellow bellies. I found they make terrible captives (too darn wild and nervous) and so, were only kept temporarily:cool:

[guidofatherof5]

I'm not sure.
One morning he was dead.
I liked his attitude and was looking forward to raising him to adulthood.

[RedSidedSPR]

Aside from my red sided garter snake (more to come I hope) this is it.

He's a Brittany spaniel
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/Bogey07066.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking dog.

[RedSidedSPR]

Thanks

[infernalis]

just took a couple of my pueblan..
http://www.thamnophis.us/close/pueblo.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.us/close/pueblo1.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.us/close/pueblo2.jpg
CY the corn snake...
http://www.thamnophis.us/close/cy3.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.us/close/cy1.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

I know it sounds repetitive but great photos, Wayne.

[infernalis]

Thanks Steve, I still have a few critters to harass with my camera ;)

[ConcinusMan]

Dang, if that's a Pueblan, it sure has wide red bands. The big girl I adopted last year traded away later to make room for concinnus had bands a bit different. If any were wider than the rest, they were the white bands. I'm not very sure yours is a pure pueblan to be honest. It's just not typical of any I've seen and milk snake breeders do have a habit of not keeping their lines pure to region.:cool:

Her name is Jewels and she was over 4 feet long, beautiful, and real PITA so I traded her for a 55 gallon long tank.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8128/gedc0755small.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5448/gedc0742small.jpg

[infernalis]

Mine is called an "Apricot pueblan"

Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli

and is from an unusual bloodline. I like the coloring a lot.

I have another that looks more like yours did.

http://www.thamfriends.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=17&pictureid=219

http://www.mypetforums.com/Pueblan/oreo1.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

Umm... as far as I know, an apricot pueblan is just like a normal except the white bands are orange instead. That is not the case with the snake you are showing us, but that's definitely a pueblan. Quite possibly the "dirtiest" one I've ever seen! Very unusual indeed. The red bands have been bred out almost entirely. Have you seen the "Halloween" pueblans? It's an apricot (orange instead of white bands) and the red bands have bred almost entirely out. Amazing looking.

http://www.brazosvalleyreptiles.com/male-halloween.jpeg
http://www.brazosvalleyreptiles.com/fml-halloween.jpeg

They've been bred from apricots which look like this:
http://www.sareptiles.co.za/gallery/albums/userpics/10029/SA400391.JPG

I'll say it again Wayne, I just don't think that first one you showed is a pueblan. It was probably outcrossed to another type of mexican milk at some point in it's bloodlines.

[infernalis]

I picked up the big guy at a pet store for $40, he was already full grown when I got him.

The coloring on them seems as variable as garters.

[ConcinusMan]

Well, not quite. Even in the wild pueblans, you have a few apricots and the "dirtyness" varies a bit. Then you have CB snakes where they are breeding out the red bands but that's about it. It's the pattern of that first one that just doesn't quite fit to be a pueblan and sometimes that's the only difference between some of the various mexican subspecies. He looks closer to a annulata or celaenops. Pueblans are distinct in that generally speaking, the bands have very straight edges and the red bands aren't significantly wider than the rest of the colors. If anything, the red takes a back seat to the rest of the colors even in wild-type pueblans. See what I mean? this one is very distinctively pueblan no doubt:

http://www.vmsherp.com/images/Past/Pueblan.jpg



Still, that's a beautiful milk and it's not really considered frowned upon (except by some "purists" out there) to cross similar milk subspecies like it would be if we were crossing T. sirtalis subspecies. Heck, people are crossing these mexican milk subspecies with kings and corns even.:eek: Here's an apricot pueblan X brooks king:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n311/vaggieskabs661/pueblanxbrooks.jpg

I'll bet your big dirty one is a retired breeder but they are usually selected to be cleaner rather than dirty but who knows, he might have produced very clean, low red offspring and he could be het for apricot which would be ideal for producing halloween pueblans.

[infernalis]

Thanks for all that info Richard.

[HazAnga]

here's my pair of Okeetee corns that I have
here's a couple pix of the female
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/Okeetees/IMAG0001.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/Okeetees/IMAG0132.jpg
and my male
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/Okeetees/IMAG0119.jpg

[Charis]

Here are the newest arrivals to my house, they hatched last night.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/The%20Crested%20Geckos/000_0013.jpg
Arimo, who pipped last.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/The%20Crested%20Geckos/000_0002_00.jpg
Arco, the first one to pip.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/The%20Crested%20Geckos/000_0003_00.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

They are beautiful.

[Charis]

Thanks! I think so too! I've still got 4 more eggs to go. The last ones were laid on the 15th, so a long wait still ahead for those. These took 73 days to incubate.

[ConcinusMan]

here's my pair of Okeetee corns that I have
here's a couple pix of the female
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/Okeetees/IMAG0001.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/Okeetees/IMAG0132.jpg
and my male
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/Okeetees/IMAG0119.jpg

I'm not really into corns, I dont know why. Might have something to do with the fact that thousands are sold locally every year, but very few actually get good homes. There's so many abandoned and rescued corns around here it makes me sick and yet everyone keeps breeding them. You'll have a hard time giving away an okeetee around here. They're just considered "normal". Lavenders, albinos, and candy corns are more popular. I guess the good thing about that is you don't have to buy them at all. There's plenty of adults to be had for free. For example, a childhood friend of mine owns a pet store and stables. Someone couldn't care for their corn anymore and simply gave her one. It was a magnificent lavender like this one. It had the most awesome blue eyes I've ever seen. Yes, BLUE eyes on a snake!

http://swreptile.com/lavender.jpg

[amattel]

Here are some of my friends...

This is Deva, a OT Hypo Het Leopard Boa
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/amattel/deva-3.jpg

This is Grettle, a White Lip Python (golden phase)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/amattel/grettel-3.jpg

This is Bosco, a unicolor Cribo
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/amattel/cribo-3.jpg

This is Raphael, a Costa Rican Boa Constrictor
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/amattel/raphael-2.jpg

This is Jericho and I. He's a 10 year old Peruvian BCC I adopted from a rescue.
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/amattel/jericho-1-7.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/amattel/jericho-1-5.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

They all look great.
Love the Cribo. Looks like a big garter snake.
You have good taste in friends, Adam;)

[ssssnakeluvr]

They all look great.
Love the Cribo. Looks like a big garter snake.
You have good taste in friends, Adam;)
I had a 6 ft cribo a few years back....was like a giant garter snake..... acted, ate, and crapped like one! very friendly too!!! if I had more room I would love to breed them!

[ConcinusMan]

That's exactly what I said the first time I handled one earlier this spring! It was just like a really big garter snake! very well tempered. Awesome snakes. The one I'm holding belongs to Nate (Redspot) and it's the small one. He had one twice that size! About a week later, he hatched out a bunch of cribo eggs. How cool is that?

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9656/gedc1566.jpg

[amattel]

That's exactly what I said the first time I handled one earlier this spring! It was just like a really big garter snake! very well tempered. Awesome snakes. The one I'm holding belongs to Nate (Redspot) and it's the small one. He had one twice that size! About a week later, he hatched out a bunch of cribo eggs. How cool is that?


Mine is a male and I would love to find a female and hopefully I will be able to afford her when I find her. Bosco was wild caught as a baby. He is fine to hold but is shy in the cage. I have to feed him last on feeding day so I don't spook him into not eating by moving around in front of his cage. From what I have read this is atypical of the cribos.

[ConcinusMan]

It was a magnificent lavender like this one. It had the most awesome blue eyes I've ever seen. Yes, BLUE eyes on a snake!

http://swreptile.com/lavender.jpg

Oh, and I thought of something regarding the blue eye statement. I didn't mean the snake was going into shed. It had bright "blueberry" blue eyes. And I mean, that was the color of the iris. It was so cool.


Mine is a male and I would love to find a female and hopefully I will be able to afford her when I find her. Bosco was wild caught as a baby. He is fine to hold but is shy in the cage. I have to feed him last on feeding day so I don't spook him into not eating by moving around in front of his cage. From what I have read this is atypical of the cribos.

It probably is atypical then. Both these cribos that Nate had acted like inquisitive garters when you approached their enclosure. They came out to greet us. Like I said, he hatched out quite a few babies in early summer and probably still has some. I wouldn't mind having a cribo at all but I don't have that kind of room. Their enclosures were huge.

[guidofatherof5]

Here's a few new photos of our boy/young man Tank. He usually yawns a few times in the morning. I think he's a happy turtle . He lives the life of a king. Here he is sitting on his heated blanket.
In a 5 month period he doubled in size.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/mouth.jpghttp://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/theking.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/eyes.jpghttp://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/growthring.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

I always thought that the growth happens where the plates of the shell come together.

[guidofatherof5]

I sent that photo to my snapping turtle expert. He called it a growth band and said he's seen them and big as 3/4 on an inch. Snappers in a controlled situation can grow fast.
I'm hoping Tank to be around 6 pounds next year at this time.

[ConcinusMan]

One thing's for sure, he is growing. Probably much faster now that you evicted the nasties that were inside, mooching off of him.

[Floof]

I've never seen growth rings on an aquatic turtle... But here's what they look like on a Russian tortoise...
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/DinkellaBanzai/Lizards/Zoom/2010-02-19Zoom_16.jpg
Each bumpy ridge on the individual scutes (especially visible here on the dorsal (spine) and coastal (side--between the dorsals and the marginals [edge of the shell]) scutes) is a growth ring. Each is a different width and level of "bumpiness," according to how fast the tort grew during that period and how much humidity it was given access to during the growth period.
Between the coastals and the marginals (along the edge of the shell), especially toward the back where, in this picture, it's shaded, you can see a very light beige-colored growth ring immediately between the scutes. This is the area of new growth--indeed, where the "plates" of the shell come together like where ConcinnusMan (sorry, don't know your name!) speculated growth occurs.

Honestly, I'm so used to tortoises and land-dwelling turtles that I didn't recognize your snapper's growth ring as such. Very neat to know how different it looks on an aquatic turtle!

[ConcinusMan]

Those growth ridges remind me of my thumbnails and big toenails. They have ridges like that too.:rolleyes:

[guidofatherof5]

We didn't need to hear that, yuk. Poor tortoise:D

[guidofatherof5]

Here's our little Kenny.
Kenyan Sand Boa.
Kenyan Sand Boa (http://lllreptile.com/info/library/animal-care-sheets/snakes/-/kenyan-sand-boa/)
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/kenny.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

oooh, he's pretty. Nice contrast and pattern. So where's the sand?:p

[infernalis]

Kenny is nice Steve....

[Floof]

Kenny's cute! Does he have any issues burying in the pellet-type substrate? In any case, it's nice to see another person with "sand" boas who doesn't use sand!

Concinnusman, I don't know why Steve doesn't use it, but I can tell you why many keepers choose not to. Sand is, frankly, a bad substrate for any snake in captivity. As well, it's been found lately that most species of "sand" boa don't naturally dwell in sand landscapes in the wild. You can find a good explanation on Kingsnake.com's Sand Boa Page (sorry, can't hotlink atm!).

[ConcinusMan]

Thank you for that. I do realize that, and that's why I was just teasing. I mean, I find garter snakes in mud, dirt, water, wet grass and damp rotting wood in damp mossy forests, but I sure as heck wouldn't keep them on that stuff in captivity.

Too many people try to re-create indoors in an enclosed environment, what they see as "natural habitat". That's a big mistake in many cases.

Still, with a sand boa, I would be tempted to have at least part of the enclosure be a sandy substrate or other somewhat fine particulate. Not saying it's necessary by any means though.

Maybe some of this:

Zoo Med Repti - Sand Substrate - Desert White 25LB (SW-25) (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=reptile+sand&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=11058818774934952885&ei=lXcETff1OentnQfVp6XlDQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ8gIwAA#)

I used this stuff for lizards that live in rocky forested areas or hardpan with cacti - Lizards that don't even live in sandy deserts. Just so happened that they did very well. Better than using a pebbly substrate like where they are found. They liked to dig in and spend the night in the sand. I guess my point is, I realize what works for them outside, isn't necessarily what's best inside. Sand worked out better for me when the animals didn't even live in sandy places. I'm sure that the opposite can happen. A sandy substrate could be far less than ideal even for animals found living in sand dunes. It happens.

[infernalis]

Before I really knew what I was doing, I kept a couple snakes on dirt mixed with sand.

They survived it, they spent the final years on decent substrate, they thrived and grew old.

I still would never repeat it though.

I like simple layouts..easier to clean and maintain.

[ConcinusMan]

I like simple layouts..easier to clean and maintain.

And that is more important. Not only because it's easier on us, but also so that it's easier to provide an environment that is comfortable and healthy for our snakes.;)

[DerekB]

Very nice, Steve. What are you using instead of sand? Does he burrow in still?

[guidofatherof5]

Compressed aspen pellets and Yes Kenny still burrows. Comes out to get a drink or eat.

Gentle Touch Products - Products: Cat Box Filler, Pet Bedding, & Horse Bedding (http://www.gentletouchproducts.com/products.html)

[Calift]

Well I haven't been on the board a lot because I have a mini miracle to tell you guys....


Last Christmas I pet-sat this beautiful dog and loved having her here! She brought so much joy that Christmas and we definitely had a special connection!


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_OlOgg_sV3T4/TQYXBr8fQ2I/AAAAAAAAB_Y/n14GDkRdeKk/s512/DSC_0063.JPG


Fast forward through Winter and Spring...and I STILL missed "my" girl. And then I learned her owners couldn't keep her and she was being rehomed. :(

Summer and fall passed and I finally had the courage to email her owners and ask where she had ended up. It was way to hard to do before, because it made me incredibly sad to think she was with someone else. But I received a happy email back from her original owners saying she was was with a man who wanted a Basenji....and they now thought she was a Basenji mix.


After that email I felt no comfort. I should have been happy or at least relieved she she was in a good place, but I didn't! :confused:

I had been searching for months to adopt a dog, and had always been looking for a Whippet mix, which was the breeds we originally thought Phoebe was. But after that email I typed in "Basenji" and pressed search.


This was my FIRST result on a long list of dogs that popped up:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OlOgg_sV3T4/TQYXB37dpbI/AAAAAAAAB_c/WDc28ZSbSFY/MA206.17562987-1-x.jpg


....to be continued

[Calift]

It was "Ruby" at an Animal Control 1 hr from my house, and 8 hours from where I now live in Ontario. She was described as an anxious, dog/kid unfriendly mutt who needed lots of attention and exercise...and she was a "stray".. not the most appealing description, but she had an UNCANNY resemblance to Phoebe!

I ask friends what they thought of the photos, emailed the animal control a few times and called like crazy over a two day period until I finally got a confirmation.....they thought it was a match! :p

I got that news at midnight on a thursday night...and by Friday morning I was in the car, driving from Ontario straight to the middle of nowhere (the animal control was really in a dark, wooded area)

Was it really my Phoebe? Or just Ruby? I still DIDN'T know what to make of all of this. Who was lying?


WELL .... when I arrived they brought out a much skinnier, scared, dog missing fur and raw paws. It was a stark difference from the friendly, outgoing, and well-fed pooch I had pet-sat nearly a year before. But it was Phoebe! And I adopted her on the spot!!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OlOgg_sV3T4/TOqHIwu5aXI/AAAAAAAABz4/Nk4wY8vFIWM/s576/IMG_7316.JPG
:):):) So a very happy ending for everyone!!


I just entered her in a facebook contest too....if you like Dave's soda and pet city here: Dave's Soda and Pet City | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/davessodaandpetcity?ref=ts)
and then "like" her photo (it's the second one down on the page)...we could win a $25 gift certificate to the store!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs719.snc4/63953_1506235895832_1232310598_31260294_6997143_n. jpg

[Calift]

PS... she likes snakes!
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_OlOgg_sV3T4/TQYa5_YvziI/AAAAAAAAB_s/eeMmo_yTNpc/s576/IMG_7346.JPG

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone!! :)

[guidofatherof5]

Nice job.;)

[Calift]

Oops... Sorry for putting this in the wrong forum!!

[drache]

congrats on finding her, and congrats to her as well
and I'm sure one of the moderators can move this to the appropriate thread
it's a really wonderful outcome

[EasternGirl]

How do you attach pics on here?

[guidofatherof5]

How do you attach pics on here?
Hope this helps.
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/site-feedback-suggestions-questions/1008-guide-posting-pictures.html

[ae88weaver]

This is my normal ball python, Erikson... He's about 16 weeks old and approx 62 grams , maybe more now since he's had quite a few meals in him... :)

[guidofatherof5]

Erikson looks great.;)

[ConcinusMan]

Nice stripe he has going there on his neck.

[ConcinusMan]

That's my boy! (Rufus)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5230/gedc0780medium.jpg

Merry Christmas!

[gregmonsta]

:D good one.

[mustang]

that's one for the funnies:D

[ConcinusMan]

Here's one for ya...

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8649/junejuly2010005medium.jpg

[mustang]

im not going to say what retort/insult it looks like he's saying but that's a funny one too:)

[guidofatherof5]

I was able to get some close-up photos of Tank(Snapping turtle-Chelydra serpatina) while he slept.
Sleeping or awake Tank doesn't seem to mind the attention.
Visitors to the T.radix Ranch meet Tank first before any tour of the snakes. Some people jump back when I get him out. They are shocked that I pick him up without gloves.
Within a few minutes most ask if they can hold him. I always explain to them that Tank is the exception to the rule when it comes to snapping turtles.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/save5.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/save4.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/save3.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/save2.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k501/guidofatherof5/save1.jpg

[ssssnakeluvr]

Nice pics! Tank is awesome....it sucks we can't have them here in Utah..... :(

[guidofatherof5]

That is a shame. They are a wonderful turtle. I have 3. Two are common acting and then there's Tank.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Yea, it sucks...... utah is too picky. I do get to check out a couple regular and alligator snappers at the Reptile Rescue I work with...he has permits since he is also an educational facility also...we do classes all over utah.

[guidofatherof5]

I'll start incorporating Tank into my presentation next year.
He should be a big hit with the kids.

[gregmonsta]

Nice close-ups ;) love the details on the horn plating.

[ConcinusMan]

He looks like "Grandpa" and now that I see his feet, I'm sure of it. LoL.

[ConcinusMan]

"Dead" dog!

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8400/pict0004yn.jpg

[kibakiba]

My boyfriend calls most turtles the grandfathers of the animal kingdom because a lot of them look kind of old. :D

[drache]

Tank totally rocks
our Stumps is aspiring to be a snapper, I think. And he's fast. Can you imagine him going for your finger or toe?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5008/5306369498_63820b7bff_z.jpg

and here He is at rest - bathing
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5046/5283189078_3b3b5ae7b0_z.jpg

see how his leg blurs when he's coming at you?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5086/5305797837_1612360cfb_z.jpg



and here one of Mimi in the snow
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5046/5306372034_7fd2fa91d6_z.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

He's so fast the camera couldn't catch the action.:D

[mustang]

Tank totally rocks
and here one of Mimi in the snow
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5046/5306372034_7fd2fa91d6_z.jpg
oh wow it took me a second...if you ignore the black spots it looks like a turtle!!! (i thought it was till i put the whole image together :P)

[Calift]

My 12-yr-old Chow

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_OlOgg_sV3T4/TRjPZx1ZkOI/AAAAAAAACMA/JWrfiXJ3d48/s512/DSC_0068.JPG


Both dogs enjoying the snow a few days ago

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OlOgg_sV3T4/TRjPhxSjk8I/AAAAAAAACM4/EhkUWevtw2A/s720/DSC_0213.JPG

[Calift]

....and you can add me as a friend at the same time! :) :)


Phoebe is my wonderful rescue dog. We only need FIVE more "likes" by today to win.

Here's the link to her picture:
Dave's Soda and Pet City's Wall | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1506235895832&set=o.113715435316655)


In order to "like" it, you must "like" the pet store
Dave's Soda and Pet City | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/davessodaandpetcity?ref=ts%20%20)

[ConcinusMan]

Well, I "liked" the pet store and I "liked" your dog on their wall. Is that how to do it?

[kibakiba]

I liked both things. I also added you as a friend. :) I hope you win!

[EasternGirl]

Here are some pics of my yellow lab, Kaela...and my cats, Boo, Ian, and Luna:

[ConcinusMan]

Awww... that dog is precious.

[EasternGirl]

Thanks....your dog is too cute! My dog, Kaela, is dying...and it's been really hard on me. I am trying to determine when I should put her to sleep. She seems really bad sometimes, and I feel like I shouldn't allow her to suffer simply because I am attached. But then she perks up and I don't want to put her to sleep if she still has some good days left in her. Having pets is such a wonderful experience, but it is so difficult when you lose them.

[guidofatherof5]

Thanks....your dog is too cute! My dog, Kaela, is dying...and it's been really hard on me. I am trying to determine when I should put her to sleep. She seems really bad sometimes, and I feel like I shouldn't allow her to suffer simply because I am attached. But then she perks up and I don't want to put her to sleep if she still has some good days left in her. Having pets is such a wonderful experience, but it is so difficult when you lose them.


I was where you are at 2 years ago.
If you look at my avatar you will see my old girl Alex. She was going on 17 when I had her put down. She was my best friend and is missed daily.
Kaela will let you know when it's time.
My prayers are with you in this very dificult time in your life.

[Charis]

Thanks....your dog is too cute! My dog, Kaela, is dying...and it's been really hard on me. I am trying to determine when I should put her to sleep. She seems really bad sometimes, and I feel like I shouldn't allow her to suffer simply because I am attached. But then she perks up and I don't want to put her to sleep if she still has some good days left in her. Having pets is such a wonderful experience, but it is so difficult when you lose them.

We went through the same thing about five years ago with my mom's poodle and again about 2 years ago with our Pom. Deciding when it's time is an incredibly hard decision. My thoughts are with you!

[ConcinusMan]

I was where you are at 2 years ago.
If you look at my avatar you will see my old girl Alex. She was going on 17 when I had her put down. She was my best friend and is missed daily.
Kaela will let you know when it's time.
My prayers are with you in this very dificult time in your life.

Don't remind me.:( Rufus is 10 yrs old and I also have his sister, 10. I have 4 poms. His mom and her sister are 12. In the past, I lost my poms at 14-15 years old.:( I had to put them down. I couldn't stand to watch them suffer any longer. Hardest thing I ever did. I could swear that when I dropped "baby" off to say goodbye, she had a look of gratitude that I can't explain. It's like she knew what was coming and was OK with it. She was in a lot of pain.

I know what you're going through.

[BUSHSNAKE]

these are Blaberus gigantea, the giant cave roach

[reptile65]

My new addition (Gopher Snake):

http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y337/reptile65/Gopher%20snake/2jpg.jpg

http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y337/reptile65/Gopher%20snake/8jpg.jpg

http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y337/reptile65/Gopher%20snake/10jpg.jpg
http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y337/reptile65/Gopher%20snake/11jpg.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking Gopher snake;)

[ConcinusMan]

Love that last pic.

[EasternGirl]

Great looking snake! Thanks to everyone in regard to your support over my dog. It means a lot...I'm sorry for the loss of your pets in the past. We've all been there...it's very difficult.