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Snakeknot

04-13-2010, 12:11 PM

I went to the Havre De Grace reptile show this past weekend and came home with another slither. I've wanted a Saharan sand boa for some time but I rarely find any that are captive bred. Well, I finally got one. And yes, he's wild caught (UGH!) but from several years ago. He was the healthiest looking Saharan at the show. ( And some of the Saharans were kinda rough looking! EEEEP! ) He's already well adjusted to captivity and has a great disposition. ( I just gotta get him off LIVE food! )

I gotta take him to the most wonderful herp vet to clear him. Think I'll do that next week. I've dubbed him "Smoothie". Pics to follow.

Devon

Snakeknot

04-14-2010, 03:31 PM

Here's Smoothie's first photo shoot. Ads new meaning to the term "brown-nosing" eh?

Devon

jitami

04-14-2010, 06:24 PM

Devon... you're killing me... I wanna seeeee :)

Snakeknot

04-15-2010, 05:12 AM

Okay, I have no idea why the pic didn't send last time! A$@@!@$#@##@$# damn computer!

Devon

jitami

04-15-2010, 10:56 AM

Cool little guy! Love his/her pattern, especially the heart looking spot :)

lokai99

04-28-2010, 09:29 PM

guidofatherof5

04-29-2010, 03:40 PM

Those are 3 beautiful snakes. I hope you get a Thamnophis soon.

dannyj

04-29-2010, 06:36 PM

Here is a few of my others:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/danj_1985/P4250017.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/danj_1985/P4260031.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/danj_1985/P4290046.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/danj_1985/P4300057.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/danj_1985/P2250018.jpg

drache

04-30-2010, 04:44 AM

very nice lizards
those beardies have nice colour
and the ackie is definitely on my wish list for the future

dannyj

04-30-2010, 05:01 PM

very nice lizards
those beardies have nice colour
and the ackie is definitely on my wish list for the future

yeah they are great colours just produced some stunning babies and some due to hatch tomorrow onwards

the ackies are awsome - iv got 6 of them the biggest one in the pic is like a puppy hes soft

ConcinusMan

04-30-2010, 10:04 PM

I wanted to share some pics of my scaled babies. I don't yet have a garter, I'm hoping that will change this year (wink wink to anyone expecting garter babies), but here they are. If anyone is familiar with kingsnake morphs could you give your opinion on what color my guy is..his morph has to have a name..not just cali king lol. My three year old god son has named him Chocolate Milk and well that pretty much describes his color.

Looks like a hypomelanistic to me. (If a ca king has pink/red eyes and purple, or white and yellow it's really just an albino, sometimes also called "lavender" Since yours would have been a normal black and white phase, it doesn't quite look purple. If a normally brown and yellow king has reduced melanin (not completely absent) AND somewhat dark eyes, it's hypomelanistic, or "hypomel", meaning, not quite albino, but close. the dark areas will look purple and the eyes dark. It's hard to tell from that photo though.

And that, makes very little sense whatsoever, doesn't it? I'll try to clarify:

We have 2 different "albino" (amelanistic) plains garters. The "Iowa strain " looks like this:

(you can see there are no dark pigments and very pink eyes)
http://gartersnakemorph.com/images/iowaalbinoplains.jpg

The "nebraska strain" (different gene affects the color. As you can see, there's still color there and the eyes are darker) If you ask me, by definition, is is NOT albino, but is really hypomelanistic. Hypo meaning "reduced" melanin. Think of it as "halfway there" albino.

http://www.donsgartersnakes.net/images/plainsalbinotiny.jpg

If your kingsnake completely lacked melanin those grey areas would be pinkish/purplish due to color from blood showing through, and his eyes would be very pink or red. Since the eyes are dark and there is gray there, the technical term would be "hypomelanistic" as opposed to "amelanistic"(albino) and would look more like the following picture. I have found albino kings in the wild (among a group that had just hatched) that also looked like this. The normally dark areas can look pink or more of a purple color:
http://pet.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pPETS-6829387t400.jpg

As far as "morph" names go, the first person to prove the gene and and successfully produce offspring predictably can call them any darn thing he pleases based on overall appearance, not actual biological terms. So for now, I guess yours is "chocolate milk" Scott even produced a morph called "christmas albino". The name may, or may not stick. That's why I prefer to hear the true terms. Hypomelanistic for your snake, Amelanistic (Albino) in the above pic.

guidofatherof5

05-08-2010, 09:20 PM

Even though she's not a garter I thought it would relate.
As you might remember I've been blessed to be the caretaker of a blind Fox snake(Elaphe vulpina). She lost her eyes to live food that turned on her. This was a complete failure and fault of the snakes owner.
Tonight I noticed she was finishing a shed so I thought I would assist her.
All she had left was her head. As I pulled the shed off I noticed what appeared to be a eye cap. Apparently when the eye socket healed it retained the ability to still shed. I thought it was pretty cool, so here you go.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/blind2.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/blind21.jpg

infernalis

05-09-2010, 08:55 AM

Very interesting Steve.

guidofatherof5

05-09-2010, 05:14 PM

Here's my male Hypo bull snake out for some fresh air.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/hypo.jpg

Tonight was ball feeding night. I'm not a big fan of these but they needed a home. They are beautiful and have a great feel.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/ball3.jpg

lokai99

05-09-2010, 08:02 PM

Thanks for the info ConcinnusMan. I'm glad I can call him something now. He does have pigmented eyes so I think hypo is pretty descriptive. Thanks also to Steve, i'll tell the boys...and girl that they were a hit.

ConcinusMan

05-09-2010, 08:16 PM

Yeah, that's what he is. He's a hypomel black and white phase king. Pretty darn cool looking too.

ConcinusMan

05-19-2010, 02:38 AM

Some video of 2 of 4 pomeranians. Aren't they the cutest?

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Laura

05-27-2010, 05:16 AM

Hey guys and girlies, I'm new to the forum today as I bought my first snake yesterday, however here are a couple of pictures of my two cats:

<a href="http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/lauracellis/pets/?action=view&current=cloud2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/lauracellis/pets/cloud2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/lauracellis/pets/?action=view&current=wombat.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/lauracellis/pets/wombat.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

ConcinusMan

05-27-2010, 10:03 AM

Fixed it for ya. ^^^You used the wrong code for this forum. ;)
Welcome.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/lauracellis/pets/cloud2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/lauracellis/pets/wombat.jpg

infernalis

05-27-2010, 10:25 AM

Since it would take forever to get it all on here, Links to my existing galleries.

Picture Gallery (http://www.thamfriends.com/MPFG/index.html)

Another set (http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/PG1/index.html)

http://www.reptard.info/critters/inseperable.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/sr/pups.jpg

Buck - the monster rat, sire to my feed litters. Hey, pythons gotta eat too.

http://www.mypetforums.com/buck/buck.jpg

ConcinusMan

05-27-2010, 10:32 AM

infernalis

05-27-2010, 10:58 AM

He's a happy busy guy with a few ladies in the cage.

They make lots and lots of food for my larger snakes.

ConcinusMan

05-28-2010, 09:38 AM

oh you mean the one's that eat hippo's as a snack? Good lawd that's a big rat.

guidofatherof5

06-02-2010, 09:01 PM

My beautiful blind Fox snake layed a clutch of egges. The sad part is none we fertile.
I still have hopes my Hypo-Bull snake will give me some eggs this year.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/fox2.jpg

aSnakeLovinBabe

06-02-2010, 10:05 PM

Bullsnakes sure are beautiful. I hope you get some eggs!!! I am hoping for california kingsnake eggs soon, Bandit and Trouser have bred a few times since she shed.

Charis

06-02-2010, 10:50 PM

I'm hoping to get some eggs from this girl this season. She's still at the breeder's I'm getting her from right now. She's being bred with the breeder's clean bi-color red male. I can't wait until she gets here! :D (pic courtesy of the breeder)

Laura

06-03-2010, 12:51 AM

Woww Charis, she's so beautiful

ConcinusMan

06-03-2010, 01:48 AM

Awesome!

guidofatherof5

06-06-2010, 01:36 PM

Here's an update on my rehab. Bull snake. She's over 6 feet now and getting ready to shed again. She's out of the hunger stage and will allow me to reach in and touch and hold her anytime.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/bull13.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/bull8.jpg

Laura

06-06-2010, 01:42 PM

Wow you can almost hypnotize yourself by looking at that last picture

ConcinusMan

06-06-2010, 01:43 PM

Looking good.

Nir

06-06-2010, 03:36 PM

I have lots of non garter reptiles... Here's a sample:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_8291.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_8077a.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_8068a.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/BoubouAshed.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_7726.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_7740.jpg

Nir

06-06-2010, 03:40 PM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_7486.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_6831.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/Skinny3dc.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_7473.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_4419.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/nir/IMG_3708.jpg

guidofatherof5

06-06-2010, 03:49 PM

Wow, very nice.

Charis

06-06-2010, 04:05 PM

Quite a nice looking reptile zoo you have! What kind of frog is that, that looks like a leaf? And what is the snake down below the leaf frog? I think I identified everything but those two.

Nir

06-06-2010, 04:51 PM

The frog is a solomon island leaf frog (Ceratobatrachus guentheri) and the snake is a Trans Pecos Ratsnake (Bogertophis sobocularis) "Silver" morph...

charles parenteau

06-06-2010, 05:16 PM

AWESOME tu as gros des snake very nice!!

Charis

06-06-2010, 06:34 PM

The frog is a solomon island leaf frog (Ceratobatrachus guentheri) and the snake is a Trans Pecos Ratsnake (Bogertophis sobocularis) "Silver" morph...
Thanks! I thought that snake looked a bit like an Leucistic Rat. I'd never seen the Silver morph though.

Nir

06-06-2010, 06:54 PM

Thanks! I thought that snake looked a bit like an Leucistic Rat. I'd never seen the Silver morph though.

Leucistic ratsnakes and trans pecos rat are not the same at all...

Leucistic rats are Pantherophis guttatus lindheimeri (Texas Ratsnake)

drache

06-06-2010, 07:10 PM

you have a wonderful collection, Nir

Nafun

06-06-2010, 07:36 PM

The shedding lizard is just adorable. He looks like he's unwrapping himself.

ConcinusMan

06-06-2010, 08:06 PM

Awesome. Is the black one a milk snake? gorgeous. A local man was selling one that was over 8 feet long! yikes! He only wanted $150. I would love to have had it but I just couldn't do it. Too darn big.

infernalis

06-06-2010, 08:09 PM

ConcinusMan

06-06-2010, 08:10 PM

Dude, I saw it. I held it. It was around 8 feet and it was a black milk snake. It was friggen huge. I didn't think they got that big either, until I saw it.

Kinda like this one, only bigger. Everyone also keeps saying Pueblan milks don't get over 3 feet. The one I recently parted with was 4 foot, 2 inches and she was only 6 years old.

http://kingsnake.com/highsierra/images/photos/803blackmilk-med.jpg

infernalis

06-06-2010, 08:15 PM

Lampropeltis triangulum gaigeae - Black milk snake. RECORD 71 inches.

Black Rat Snake (Elaphe obsoleta) - These do reach 8 feet, they look like a milk snake.

infernalis

06-06-2010, 08:22 PM

. Everyone keeps saying Pueblan milks don't get over 3 feet. The one I recently parted with was 4 foot, 2 inches.

Like my big monster.... I could not part with mine.

http://www.thamfriends.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=17&pictureid=220

http://www.mypetforums.com/Pueblan/oreo2.jpg

ConcinusMan

06-06-2010, 08:29 PM

Yup, that's a monster. I don't recall ever seeing one so "dirty" before. The one I had was such a b... well, let's just say she was a PITA and not very nice at all, so it was easy to part with her in trade for a 55 gallon tank for my garters!

Here's some pics of "Jewels" http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/showphoto.php?photo=7762

BTW, that "black rat snake" was not a rat snake. He had pics of the snake when it was younger and not all black, and pics as it grew up and turned black. Besides that, I know the difference. It was just an exceptionally huge black milk snake. Forget about the record. I keep hearing about age records for garters. I shattered "the record" with my last pair of concinnus so I know for a fact they can live longer than "the record" and I know that black milk snake was longer than "the record". Much longer.

I couldn't hardly believe it. I wish you could have seen that milk for yourself. It was quite impressive.

infernalis

06-06-2010, 08:53 PM

Don't get me wrong, yes I would have loved to have seen it.

and I know first hand about oddities that "never" happen.

I had a little Storeria Dekayi that ate pinkies. (I have pics)

ConcinusMan

06-06-2010, 08:55 PM

And I had concinnus that consistently ignored pinkies. Go figure.

Nir

06-07-2010, 05:33 AM

Thanks for the comments! Yup, that's a black milk... Mine are 3 years old and around 5 feet... Normal size....

My biggest milk is a honduran. She is 6.5 feet!! Her mother was clors to 7 feet and her grand mother was above 7 feet!!

infernalis

06-07-2010, 07:07 AM

My new Cyclophiops Major... Dewie.

http://www.reptard.info/today/dewie2.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/limon/dewieH.jpg

Taken moments after letting him out of the snake bag...

http://www.reptard.info/today/dewie.jpg

Nir

06-07-2010, 08:35 AM

I've always been interested in those, but I've only read bad experiences... keep us posted about yours, if it does fair well I might reconsider my position on those. They are beautiful!!!

infernalis

06-07-2010, 08:45 AM

I've always been interested in those, but I've only read bad experiences... keep us posted about yours, if it does fair well I might reconsider my position on those. They are beautiful!!!

I have kept these for years, Got the husbandry down pretty good.

It's the serious lack of information that costs the lives of so many.

The vendors selling them are even clueless as to what they eat.

This one is already sucking down the night crawlers like spaghetti.

Tyrel26

06-07-2010, 10:17 AM

very cool. I was also hoping to get one of these guys but I have read so many negative comments I was a little nervous. I have read that its very hard to get these guys to feed in captivity, do you agree with this? any tips?

there are smooth greens here so i was wondering if i would be able to get one feeding (if i was able to catch one). love these snakes!!

thanks

Nir

06-07-2010, 10:40 AM

Smooth greens are rare and located in Nova Scotia. They are not legal to keep.

infernalis, would your mind telling us a bit about the captive care you provide. Any luck getting them to breed?

infernalis

06-07-2010, 10:52 AM

Cylpohiops Major is not a smooth green snake.

They are from the Asian rain forest. This snake is almost 3 feet long.

I will be back soon and post all the tasty details.

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/green.htmlhttp://www.laserpointerforums.info/pics/arrow.gif

charles parenteau

06-07-2010, 10:58 AM

This snake is in my top list ...I love all green snake!!

Mommy2many

06-07-2010, 12:53 PM

Dewie is beautiful! Congratulations on letting him adopt you!:D

kazariel

06-07-2010, 04:23 PM

well,

i have here:

2 cats
3 leopardgeckos
2 lampropeltis pyromelana pyromelana
7 rats (no food!!)
6 mice (no food! :P)

and over 1000 mice in froster (food! ;) )

http://s10.directupload.net/images/100608/s6bcgfwx.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

http://s3.directupload.net/images/100608/temp/dnul6u5m.jpg (http://s3.directupload.net/file/d/2184/dnul6u5m_jpg.htm)

bouth pictures show my male king, he is about 70cm long and was born 07. nedd to make some pics of the female, she is born last year and only 40cm small, lives in a defferent terra. he is a real bitch ... bity ans stinky as hell, but cute if you leave him alone ;)

guidofatherof5

06-07-2010, 05:34 PM

infernalis

06-07-2010, 07:14 PM

Thanks Steve.

guidofatherof5

06-08-2010, 10:10 PM

8 months age I was given a beautiful female Gray banded King snake. I named her Elvis. 3 months ago I moved her to a new enclosure and she escaped. I have searched and searched but could never find any signs of her. I feared she found away outside and did so.
After putting all my snake room snakes to bed I headed upstairs. 2 hours later I went back down stairs to do a security sweep on all my snakes.
I walked into the small snake room and turned on the light. Sitting on the floor was Elvis. She has lost some weight but look good. She took the longest drink I've ever seen a snake take. I even stopped her before she was done for fear she would have thrown-up.
I never thought I would see her again but now she's back home.
I've even got a little surprise for her. I now have a male GBK. I'm going to quarantine her for a few weeks and then get them together.

infernalis

06-08-2010, 11:33 PM

I like happy endings Steve. thumbs up.

ConcinusMan

06-09-2010, 12:37 AM

guidofatherof5

06-09-2010, 02:59 AM

I couldn't sleep worrying about Elvis so I got up and thawed out some mice for her.
I think she's hungry.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/elvis.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/elvis1.jpg

Hollis_Steed

06-09-2010, 07:51 AM

Congrats Steve on the wayward child homecoming!

guidofatherof5

06-09-2010, 07:54 AM

Congrats Steve on the wayward child homecoming!

It was about time. All this time I've been able to locate small garter snakes but couldn't find a 3 foot King snake. I was going crazy worrying about her.

MasSalvaje

06-09-2010, 08:11 AM

I am very happy for you Steve! I am glad she was ok!

-Thomas

guidofatherof5

06-09-2010, 08:51 AM

I am very happy for you Steve! I am glad she was ok!

-Thomas

Or could it be you know your boy will be getting some trim, soon.:D

I hope so. I might have missed the season this year.

MasSalvaje

06-09-2010, 09:10 AM

Or could it be you know your boy will be getting some trim, soon.:D

I hope so. I might have missed the season this year.

I don't know that I would even try to breed them this year. The stress from breeding on top of what she has already been through could be too much.

-Thomas

ssssnakeluvr

06-09-2010, 11:14 AM

here's one of my other pets....desert hairy scorpion.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF6071.jpg

guidofatherof5

06-09-2010, 11:16 AM

Great looking scorpion. What kind of life span do they have?

ssssnakeluvr

06-09-2010, 11:17 AM

not sure..... several years I think. caught this one last summer

MasSalvaje

06-09-2010, 11:20 AM

Do you mind me asking where you found it Don?

-Thomas

ssssnakeluvr

06-09-2010, 11:32 AM

down in Hurricane...was feeding on another one that was road killed.

Charis

06-09-2010, 11:38 AM

We find those sometimes at the shooting range we go to.

ssssnakeluvr

06-09-2010, 11:46 AM

I found a bunch under cow patties out south of Boise

ConcinusMan

06-09-2010, 01:04 PM

Great looking scorpion. What kind of life span do they have?

I had a scorpion just like that one that I found in San Diego. It lived about a year in captivity but it was already full size when I found it. Got stung by the sucker too. Talk about painful. OUCH!

Nafun

06-10-2010, 01:32 AM

Here are a few of my menagerie.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8494/0523162632.th.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/0523162632.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

That's Berber, my jungle carpet. She loves her skull a little too much for comfort. Gives me chills.

And here's my california kingsnake. Snapped that as soon as I got her home. She's the first snake I could get my wife to admit was actually beautiful.
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guidofatherof5

06-10-2010, 09:18 PM

UPDATE

Great news. She Pooped. She eating and pooping, now. It looks like her sabbatical from food wasn't too hard on her.

Now, Here's a question for you. Do you think it would be OK to try and breed her now. My thinking is this. Maybe that time she was gone was her brumation. Cold basement floor, no food or water to speak of. Now, the fact she is eating and pooping like a normal snake, makes me think she wasn't stress very much during her time away.
Thoughts please.

I couldn't sleep worrying about Elvis so I got up and thawed out some mice for her.
I think she's hungry.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/elvis.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/elvis1.jpg

MasSalvaje

06-10-2010, 10:01 PM

I would keep feeding her for the next week or two and see if she goes into shed. If she does, it may be an indication that she is reacting to her sabbaticle as a cool down.

-THomas

guidofatherof5

06-10-2010, 10:03 PM

I would keep feeding her for the next week or two and see if she goes into shed. If she does, it may be an indication that she is reacting to her sabbaticle as a cool down.

-THomas

Just the kind of help I was looking for. Thanks.

ConcinusMan

06-11-2010, 01:45 AM

Awesome job Steve. Elvis is looking sooooo much better than when you first got her. Pretty much the same thing that happened when I got Jewels (Pueblan milk snake I no longer have). It's amazing what a difference proper care and good feeding can do for a snake in a short time. Just 4 months of feeding her properly, and the difference is like night and day. I see the same thing after you've had Elvis for a while. She's looking excellent. Burns healed up nicely.

guidofatherof5

06-11-2010, 12:46 PM

I was having trouble getting to sleep last night so I stayed up and did some spot feeding.
This Kenni of female Kenyan sand boa(Eryx colubrinus loveridgei)

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/kenni.jpg

This is Blackout our Black(duh) Mexican King snake(Lampropeltis getula nigrita)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/mex1.jpg

guidofatherof5

06-11-2010, 04:34 PM

drache

06-12-2010, 05:38 AM

you know, birds are reptiles
sometimes one can see it sort of

kazariel

06-13-2010, 07:36 AM

here is my new female mountain king :D

http://s1.directupload.net/images/100613/temp/mzgmzfxf.jpg (http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2189/mzgmzfxf_jpg.htm)

shes just about 11 month old and 45cm long, just a baby ...

GarterGeek

06-13-2010, 12:33 PM

you know, birds are reptiles
sometimes one can see it sort of

I've had that feeling too sometimes. More so with large predatory birds, like hawks and eagles, than with sparrows and other birds. To me, the sense that they both seem prehistoric and ancient is what makes them so similar. Of course, they are both related to dinosaurs, so there is a definite linkage. :)

ConcinusMan

06-13-2010, 02:37 PM

To me, the sense that they both seem prehistoric and ancient is what makes them so similar. :)

What do you mean "they both seem prehistoric and ancient is what makes them so similar" ??

Silly me, I always thought they were similar because they are similar.

"Like all other reptiles, birds have scales (feathers are produced by tissues similar to those that produce scales, and birds have scales on their feet). Also, birds lay eggs like other reptiles. The soft anatomy (musculature, brain, heart, and other organs) all are fairly similar. There are numerous skeletal resemblances between birds and other reptiles"

And it really doesn't matter what kind of bird it is. They all have close "dinosaur" matches in the fossil record.

GarterGeek

06-13-2010, 08:17 PM

What do you mean "they both seem prehistoric and ancient is what makes them so similar" ??

Silly me, I always thought they were similar because they are similar.

"Like all other reptiles, birds have scales (feathers are produced by tissues similar to those that produce scales, and birds have scales on their feet). Also, birds lay eggs like other reptiles. The soft anatomy (musculature, brain, heart, and other organs) all are fairly similar. There are numerous skeletal resemblances between birds and other reptiles"

And it really doesn't matter what kind of bird it is. They all have close "dinosaur" matches in the fossil record.

Exactly! That's why I also said, "Of course, they are both related to dinosaurs, so there is a definite linkage."

I didn't mean to be confusing or contradictory:o, I was just speaking from an emotional stand-point rather than a scientific one. When I referred to "the sense that they are prehistoric," I was referring to a strange gut-feeling I experience whenever I see a reptile or bird. I really wish I could explain better.

I didn't know feathers and scales were from similar tissues! That's very interesting. - Thank you!:)

ConcinusMan

06-13-2010, 08:37 PM

I didn't know feathers and scales were from similar tissues! That's very interesting. - Thank you!:)

Really? Take a look at your fingernails, your hair, your scalp and skin flakes. Same stuff. Same stuff your snake sheds off every so often, and yes, same stuff feathers are made of. It's just a long-chain protein called keratin.;)

And yes, humans need to, and must shed their skin too, in order to grow. It's just that we do it in tiny flakes instead of all at once.;)

prattypus

06-14-2010, 02:13 AM

These are my son Kale's(age 13) pride and joy. Kale is my bird kid. Our family has always taken in wayward birds in need of some care. These were hatched here on the Ranch. Kale wants to work with raptors some day. I'm all for that.

P.S. Kale also will be breeding Peach faced Love bird early in the fall.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/birds.jpg
I really dig working with raptors. Still so much to learn. May become a falconer's apprentice next year, but in the mean time- WOW. Good luck to him. I've always like lovebirds, but haven't taken that plunge yet.

kazariel

06-14-2010, 09:43 AM

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/mex1.jpg

i love these guys ... will get two of them within the next two weeks :D

ConcinusMan

06-14-2010, 02:29 PM

I really dig working with raptors. Still so much to learn. May become a falconer's apprentice next year, but in the mean time- WOW. Good luck to him. I've always like lovebirds, but haven't taken that plunge yet.

Wait a minute. I used to breed and hand raise cockatiels. I could have sworn those babies in the picture were cockatiels.

Calift

06-15-2010, 06:58 AM

Wait a minute. I used to breed and hand raise cockatiels. I could have sworn those babies in the picture were cockatiels.

I agree, those birds are tiels! :)

gartermorphs

06-15-2010, 08:13 AM

I agree, those birds are tiels! :)

i was thinking the same thing expecially with those cheeks

ConcinusMan

06-15-2010, 12:11 PM

I think the confusion came from this statement made by steve: "P.S. Kale also will be breeding Peach faced Love bird early in the fall."

He never said those were lovebirds. In fact, he never said anything about what kind of bird is pictured. They are definitely cockatiels. The grey one appears to be a normal female, the other (I don't know what that morph is called) a male.

Charis

06-15-2010, 12:16 PM

Something like Lutino? SP? I'm not terribly up on the morphs either.

ConcinusMan

06-15-2010, 12:19 PM

No, lutino is a completely white cockatiel with a bit of a lemon yellow "wash". I wanted to say it was a pied but it's not. I think the one pictured is a relatively new morph.

Snakeknot

06-15-2010, 07:40 PM

Sorry to butt in but my snake collection has expanded again. I was not supposed to bring home another snake when I went with a friend to a reptile show near me. I was just supposed to buy frozen mice. But this guy made me an offer I couldn't refuse and I came home with my first milk snake. I think I need a rack!

Anyway, here's "Viper" so named because I couldn't find a pic of his morph and hubby started making coral snake jokes. He's a central plains milk snake, very nice to handle with a voracious appetite for anything remotely rodent.

Devon

Hollis_Steed

06-15-2010, 08:10 PM

A real Beauty Devon! Congrats on the new member of the family!

infernalis

06-15-2010, 11:09 PM

Nevermind, I remembered I have my own thread....

mustang

06-17-2010, 11:06 AM

cool milk...(you know there elap-somthing that has an endin i forgot and will be corrected with most likely...same family as cobras not pit vipers) but gotta say KILLER name lol

kazariel

06-17-2010, 12:01 PM

here are my new babies :D

http://s5.directupload.net/images/100617/temp/p7ookjjm.jpg (http://s5.directupload.net/file/d/2193/p7ookjjm_jpg.htm)

http://s10.directupload.net/images/100617/temp/cp4gisxj.jpg (http://s10.directupload.net/file/d/2193/cp4gisxj_jpg.htm)

http://s5.directupload.net/images/100617/temp/pbgy5plz.jpg (http://s5.directupload.net/file/d/2193/pbgy5plz_jpg.htm)

http://s7.directupload.net/images/100617/temp/arvln94f.jpg (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2193/arvln94f_jpg.htm)

so i got today:

1.1 cal kings "mosaic"
1.1 black mex kings
1.0 lapropeltis mex. tayeri

in a few days or weeks there will follow:

0.3 lamp mex tayeri ;)

guidofatherof5

06-17-2010, 12:09 PM

Very beautiful snakes.

ConcinusMan

06-25-2010, 02:06 AM

Not really my pet. This indigo snake I am holding belongs to Redspot. He calls this male his "garter on steroids". Just as sweet, tame, and curious as a garter, but friggen huge! His Arizona (Sonoran) gopher snakes are just as sweet and very beautiful!

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9656/gedc1566.jpg

oki-inu

06-25-2010, 02:47 AM

Nice indigo, never seen one so light.

ConcinusMan

06-25-2010, 02:58 AM

Nor have I, but apparently, not all indigos are "indigo". His female was the same color. Everything else fits though. Same face/neck markings, same body proportions, etc. Very calm, very nice snake, in spite of the fact that he felt warm. If any of my concinnus had felt that warm they would have been all wound up and ready to squirm and bolt.

I can't imagine a snake of this size and strength with a bad attitude. That would be something else. Not only is there no bad attitude, but they are just not high strung at all. Very calm and deliberate in their movements. Can't always say that with my garters, as sweet as they are, they can be a bit "squirly" compared to that indigo.

Laura

06-25-2010, 03:51 AM

:eek: what a strange colour, aren't they normally black??

Thanks for posting the pic ConcinnusMan I've always wondered exactly how big those things are :D

Ps I LOVE your shirt

BUSHSNAKE

06-25-2010, 09:18 AM

looks like a black tail cribo or uni color, awesome, i used to breed those, had a male that was 9-10 feet, miss those guys

ConcinusMan

06-25-2010, 12:11 PM

He did say it was a "cribo" and the dorsal color is uniform all the way.

ssssnakeluvr

06-25-2010, 01:43 PM

I used to have one too!! awesome snakes!! and yes, was just like a huge garter, huge messes. very nice snake tho!

ConcinusMan

06-25-2010, 01:47 PM

He showed me some eggs too. They were very close to hatching. Probably did by now.

BUSHSNAKE

06-25-2010, 02:22 PM

thats great!

guidofatherof5

06-26-2010, 08:46 PM

It's been a good day. My male Hypo Bull snakes has come back to earth and has started eating again. He's been in the rut(breeding season) and not himself.
Today, when I passed by his enclosure he looked at me with a quick head movement. I knew he was ready to eat. 4 mice later he was semi full.
The other good news is that the rescued female Fox snake has started eating also. Things are looking well for her.
All my big snakes, non garters ate tonight.

mustang

06-26-2010, 08:47 PM

guidofatherof5

06-26-2010, 09:02 PM

you said rut...cant wait for deer season:(

I'm sure it was the wrong word to use but he was really out of it. A far off look in his eye. Not really aware of his surroundings. Wouldn't eat.
I worried for him until I talked with a friend of mine that used to take care of these Bull snakes. He said the males go off food and concentrate on one thing in the Spring. He described it as "acting weird"

Hollis_Steed

06-26-2010, 09:15 PM

Even in my limited experience I know how good it feels when someone starts to eat. A big relief. Way to go!

guidofatherof5

06-27-2010, 04:32 PM

Feeding time:
Female Gray Banded King(Lampropeltis alterna)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/gbk.jpg
Male Gray Banded King(Lampropeltis alterna)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/gbk_male.jpg
Female Mexican Black King(Lampropeltis getula nigrita)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/mex2.jpg
Male Fox Snake(Elaphe vulpina)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/fox_male.jpg
Female Fox Snake(Elaphe vulpina)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/fox3.jpg
Normal female Bull Snake(Pituophis catenifer sayi)
This is my rehab. snake. She's becoming a beautiful snake in appearance and attitude. I will hate to see her go. But go she must.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nbull.jpg

guidofatherof5

06-27-2010, 04:35 PM

Female Hypo Bull Snake(Pituophis catenifer sayi)
Both these snakes are around 10 years old. It's like having a couple of old dogs around the Ranch. Great attitudes.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/fhypo.jpg
Male Hypo Bull Snake(Pituophis catenifer sayi)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/mhypo.jpg

GarterGeek

06-27-2010, 05:08 PM

Radix aren't the only beautiful snakes on the ranch! :)

guidofatherof5

06-27-2010, 05:15 PM

Radix aren't the only beautiful snakes on the ranch! :)

I'm blessed to be surrounds by beautiful snake of all kinds. Working with them all enhances my life. I find as a rule snake live well with people. All my snakes are members of the family. They get a lot of interaction and time with people.
Some, like my normal Bull snake are only here for a short time(6 months to a year) I love rehabbing snakes that have been neglected. They're basket cases when they come in and leave like new snakes.
They just need care and understanding.

mustang

06-28-2010, 09:42 AM

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aSnakeLovinBabe

06-30-2010, 11:48 PM

Normally, milk snakes would not belong on our forum...and yes, I am aware of that... but this isn't any old milksnake... it's an extremely important find that I think you guys need to see! I find this to be quite a significant find in MY OWN backyard. In MY woodpile where all my little wild garter buddies live! So here it is for you to behold!

I got a call today while at work from my mom. Nobody ever calls me at work. She wanted to tell me about this "pretty little red and white snake" she had just found. My first thought was, have I had anything albino escape? No... so then I thought... someone in my area must have lost their pet corn and now I will be stuck with it! The thought of a eastern milk barely crossed my mind, but I dismissed it because I never thought I could get that lucky. Well... I did. My mom actually did walk out into our yard, and pick up an albino eastern milksnake.

It is a hatchling, a little female, just days old! She crawled out of a little woodpile that is in our yard, it's old, with plywood and tarps and because many garter snakes have called it home for years we have decided to leave it for them. The middle of this woodpile has some moist, falling apart wood that is the most likely candidate for where the eggs were laid. I will be going through the pile tomorrow to see if I can locate any of her brothers and sisters. We live in a secluded area... there is really nowhere else coverage-wise for them to venture to except around my house.

Sorry, but these crappy indoor photos do her no real justice. Her saddles are a bright popping strawberry color.... and her base color is a pale yellowish cream. Then the parts that line the saddles that would normally be black are purplish, and upon closer imspection I realized that she has patches of dark pigmentation all over her... making her a paradox on top of it! Her eyes have red pupils with semi-dark irises similar to my t positive strains of garter snakes. This such a cool find... how did we get this lucky??? This is the third morph animal I have stumbled upon.. there was the hypo eastern garter snake, then the flame eastern, and now THIS?! This is incredible. Here are photos of "Candy" as I call her... not sure what we will do with her yet! I will take better photos of her in natural light tomorrow.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/2969031.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/2969049.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/2969045.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/2969044.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/2969043.jpg

aSnakeLovinBabe

06-30-2010, 11:48 PM

MasSalvaje

06-30-2010, 11:59 PM

That is stunning! It resembles my Hypo Okeetee corn.

-Thomas

infernalis

07-01-2010, 12:35 AM

Amazing find Shannon!! Sweet.

Lucky, Lucky you.

Spankenstyne

07-01-2010, 12:48 AM

Very cool find, congrats. It will be interesting to see how age affects it's colours.

snakeman

07-01-2010, 02:19 AM

Thats awesome!You should take it to Ted thompson.I know he works with eastern milks.

oki-inu

07-01-2010, 03:06 AM

Very pretty snake, amazing find!

drache

07-01-2010, 04:42 AM

oh my, Shannon - that little one is something else
your mom is a good woman

guidofatherof5

07-01-2010, 05:14 AM

Great looking snake. Super find.

Hollis_Steed

07-01-2010, 07:19 AM

Awesome Shannon! Beautiful find!

ssssnakeluvr

07-01-2010, 07:44 AM

awesome find!!!! beautiful snake!!!

gartermorphs

07-01-2010, 08:01 AM

thats a gorgeous snake you have such luck!

ScimitarX

07-01-2010, 08:27 AM

It's adorable! Really is a pretty little thing :)

GartersRock

07-01-2010, 09:04 AM

It looks like the ultramel corns. Very cool!!

ConcinusMan

07-01-2010, 12:32 PM

I hate you and your dang luck.:p As to what to do with her, you know what I'm going to say. OMG that thing is gorgeous. I once asked you about getting me a milk snake but you said you don't find them. Is this new, to find milks around your house?

aSnakeLovinBabe

07-01-2010, 04:59 PM

Spankenstyne

07-01-2010, 05:39 PM

Here's something a little different for ya.. We'll see who can ID it :)

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Colubrids/ea1cjun2010.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Colubrids/ea1bjun2010.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Colubrids/ea1ajun2010.jpg

mustang

07-01-2010, 06:13 PM

Here's something a little different for ya.. We'll see who can ID it :)
coach whip? or one of those branch snakes that can go verticly with ease?earth snake?
tell me if im gettn warm (& with which guess im gettn warmer with)

MasSalvaje

07-01-2010, 07:20 PM

It looks like an egg eating snake to me, not sure on the exact type...........

If not that maybe a species of slug eating snake?

-Thomas

redspot

07-01-2010, 10:01 PM

Thomas got it first guess.

mustang

07-01-2010, 10:25 PM

Thomas got it first guess.
d@m im only an expert with my piers...with yall im like a fish outa water!

redspot

07-01-2010, 11:34 PM

lol, buy a couple good books.

Nate

redspot

07-01-2010, 11:37 PM

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/2969042.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/2969039.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/2969038.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/2969032.jpg

WOW! Shannon thats a pretty cool find!

I've seen my fair share of interesting snakes in the wild and I have never stumbled across a "freak". It would be hard for me to decide if I were to let it go, sell it and outfit the snake room or collect all of them in the area and try to start a line of albinos...even though I don't REALLY like them.

Very very cool!

Nate

redspot

07-01-2010, 11:39 PM

PS why does this site mass lump topics together? I for one find it slightly confusing.

mustang

07-02-2010, 01:16 AM

PS why does this site mass lump topics together? I for one find it slightly confusing.
you neat freaks make me sick....kdn but trust me youll get used to it use the thread search engine on the top if you need to. i for one love the system:D....it got way outta hand once and the moderators were really suffering so we only have a few general talk threads

Spankenstyne

07-02-2010, 02:21 AM

Thomas got it. Dasypeltis medici, but African egg eater is fine lol.

ConcinusMan

07-02-2010, 02:28 AM

I want it soooo bad.

aSnakeLovinBabe

07-02-2010, 09:19 AM

Candy is doing well!!! Little bugger is just so beautiful. This whole thing is very overwhelming though... I have been getting people ALL over the place that are contacting me about this snake. They want it... or they want to know about it... I spent ALL day yesterday being the spokesperson for a milksnake!!! I was offered 1.1 first generation babies from that piebald garter. I have turned that offer down... nor really looking to work with piebalds until visuals are produced!

MasSalvaje

07-02-2010, 09:42 AM

Thomas got it. Dasypeltis medici, but African egg eater is fine lol.

Very cool! I would love to get a pair of those. What kind of eggs to you have it eating now? I have heard that the young ones need some very small eggs.

-Thomas

mustang

07-02-2010, 10:47 AM

ConcinusMan

07-02-2010, 01:08 PM

Keep it! and try to find some siblings!

mustang

07-02-2010, 01:11 PM

shannon you shoould go into the breeding buisness

Spankenstyne

07-02-2010, 01:46 PM

Very cool! I would love to get a pair of those. What kind of eggs to you have it eating now? I have heard that the young ones need some very small eggs.

-Thomas

It's currently eating finch eggs. They can eat surprisingly large eggs for their size & tend to binge and then not eat for a few weeks. It's how they work in nature as well, find a nest and raid it eating everything they can, then digest and eventually try to find another.

aSnakeLovinBabe

07-02-2010, 08:50 PM

haha the pie bald lol they got guts to do that scam here:D dont worry shannon why dont you keep it!

no no, there was a real piebald garter found and I was offered babies from it!!! not from the scam with the painting :D

Spankenstyne

07-02-2010, 09:14 PM

no no, there was a real piebald garter found and I was offered babies from it!!! not from the scam with the painting :D

If you're considering trading, please be sure to wait until the pied has proven babies.

aSnakeLovinBabe

07-02-2010, 10:25 PM

If you're considering trading, please be sure to wait until the pied has proven babies.

I am not trading for offspring of that pied. I am not really even interested in the pied garter.... let alone trading this prized gem away for two normal eastern babies.

BTW... she ate a pinky while I was at work today!

infernalis

07-02-2010, 10:28 PM

BTW... she ate a pinky while I was at work today!

Awesome news....

guidofatherof5

07-02-2010, 11:03 PM

Good for her.

Spankenstyne

07-02-2010, 11:50 PM

I am not trading for offspring of that pied. I am not really even interested in the pied garter.... let alone trading this prized gem away for two normal eastern babies.

BTW... she ate a pinky while I was at work today!

Even better!

drache

07-03-2010, 05:45 AM

PS why does this site mass lump topics together? I for one find it slightly confusing.
we lump all the non-garter topics together, so we can tease out all the thamnophis topics in detail - that's because it's a thamnophis forum
so if you have other animals they just don't get the attention of your garters here
even totally fabulous finds like Shannon's new milk are relegated to "other pet" status, and it's not so confusing, really
on the other hand, Steve can post a separate thread for every one of his 300+ radix, and we'll be fine with it - seriously. you know why? they're all thamnophis. Perhaps I shouldn't encourage him though, but that's another story.

guidofatherof5

07-03-2010, 07:50 AM

Hmmm, a separate thread for each of my radixes:rolleyes: What a great idea.
I never would have thought of that. Thanks Rhea.:D

Spankenstyne

07-03-2010, 12:45 PM

lol

mustang

07-03-2010, 03:27 PM

no no, there was a real piebald garter found and I was offered babies from it!!! not from the scam with the painting :Dnews to me all i saw was the fakes

redspot

07-04-2010, 08:49 AM

Came home from herping yesterday to find two of these little guys out of the egg.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/tokaysrnice/Black%20Tail%20Cribos/DSC04243.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/tokaysrnice/Black%20Tail%20Cribos/DSC04242.jpg

MasSalvaje

07-04-2010, 08:59 AM

Are those Cribos?

-Thomas

redspot

07-04-2010, 09:00 AM

Are those Cribos?

-Thomas

Why yes they are!

MasSalvaje

07-04-2010, 09:08 AM

Very cool! Those guys are awesome!

Do you have pics of the parents?

-Thomas

redspot

07-04-2010, 09:41 AM

Mom

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/tokaysrnice/Black%20Tail%20Cribos/DSC02700.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/tokaysrnice/Black%20Tail%20Cribos/DSC02717.jpg

Dad

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/tokaysrnice/Black%20Tail%20Cribos/DSC03219.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/tokaysrnice/Black%20Tail%20Cribos/DSC03441.jpg

ConcinusMan

07-04-2010, 11:33 AM

Here's me holding "dad". He's so laid back. If he was even half as squirmy as my garters, there's no way you could handle him. Imagine if they had a nasty tempter like some gopher snakes. Good thing they don't.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9656/gedc1566.jpg

Spankenstyne

07-04-2010, 11:40 AM

Drymarchon are amazing animals. They remind me of garters in their behaviour & show as much "intelligence" and "serpentality" as any snakes out there.

I do love my big Pituophis too though:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/lineaticollis/oct2509pl1b.jpg

guidofatherof5

07-04-2010, 12:37 PM

Great looking snake Chris.

drache

07-04-2010, 04:07 PM

great looking animals
I would so love a cribo, but when your living room is your reptile room, it's just not such a great idea

Spankenstyne

07-05-2010, 02:28 AM

Thanks :)
A little more from my wonderful world of all things cute and fluffy

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Colubrids/pml1ajuly52010.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Colubrids/pcvf2ajuly52010.jpg

ConcinusMan

07-05-2010, 01:30 PM

guidofatherof5

07-05-2010, 04:04 PM

Here's our little Tank-Snapping turtle(Chelydra serpentina). Last year came to us about the size of a silver dollar. This year she's about saucer size. She polished off 15 pinkies the other night. She's calm and docile. Begs for food when we walk out on the deck.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank5.jpg

mustang

07-05-2010, 04:06 PM

cool a trained turtle

Spankenstyne

07-05-2010, 04:37 PM

OMG, that pituophis is gorgeous! ^^^ Yours is pretty handsome too, Chris.

When I lived in San Diego, gophers were among my favorite snakes, attitude and personality-wise. I had a tendency to not keep the tame ones. I liked the ones with a bit of a bad attitude.:D

The last two are mine, the big lineaticollis is sort of half mine & lives here. I feed and care for it but a buddy bought it & a huge female for us to breed.

I'm a big pituophis freak. My male Cape Gopher is one of the most docile snakes I have, while the two females (one of which is the last pic, the other below) are the most ill-tempered beasts I have ever kept. There are no "bluff strikes" they're out for blood and they get it, everytime lol. It's funny how they're polar opposites but a good example of the potential either way for these. I love them they're a lot of fun and some of my all-time favourites, but not for the feint of heart or those easily intimidated by a snake not only yelling at them, but also trying to eat their face.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Colubrids/pcvf1bjuly52010.jpg

Spankenstyne

07-05-2010, 04:39 PM

That is very cool!

Here's our little Tank-Snapping turtle(Chelydra serpentina). Last year came to us about the size of a silver dollar. This year she's about saucer size. She polished off 15 pinkies the other night. She's calm and docile. Begs for food when we walk out on the deck.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank5.jpg

guidofatherof5

07-10-2010, 09:02 AM

Here's a couple other photos of Tank. We almost lost her on Tuesday to heat stroke but she's fine now. She stopped breathing but I got her going again. Glad she didn't bite me:D
She's a great turtle to have around. I'm looking forward to her getting real big. She's very docile and I can still hand feed her but those days are coming to an end as I don't want to feed her my hand.:D
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank32.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank41.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank51.jpg

ConcinusMan

07-10-2010, 02:34 PM

She's a sweetheart. Very nice. Both of them.

guidofatherof5

07-10-2010, 02:57 PM

She's a sweetheart. Very nice. Both of them.

Thanks, I only have 1.

ConcinusMan

07-10-2010, 03:02 PM

Oh, oops. I misread. Anyway, sweet turtle you got there.

infernalis

07-10-2010, 03:14 PM

excellent photography Steve.. Nice snapper too.

guidofatherof5

07-10-2010, 03:21 PM

excellent photography Steve.. Nice snapper too.

Thanks, Wayne.
Tank reminds me of the snapping turtle I had as a kid. It was 25 lbs and as nice as an old dog.
It used to stretch its neck out and let me scratch it. Used to hand feed it. That was one nice turtle.
I'm hoping this one turns out the same. So far, so good.

She just pooped. I've been waiting for this since her overheating problem the other day. Looks like all her systems are working fine.:)

Spankenstyne

07-11-2010, 03:24 AM

What a beautiful turtle!
Glad to hear everything is working fine too.

mustang

07-11-2010, 02:49 PM

good ol steve neghboor by day vet by night lol

ConcinusMan

07-11-2010, 05:19 PM

And chosen by a divine entity to speak to man on behalf of all T. radixes.:p

mustang

07-11-2010, 06:14 PM

with radix hes so bright that the radix dont speak his name...they identify him with a title that is an adjective to his brightness....RA lol

guidofatherof5

07-11-2010, 06:17 PM

with radix hes so bright that the radix dont speak his name...they identify him with a title that is an adjective to his brightness....RA lol

That is so deep...........
Let me get my boots.:D

mustang

07-11-2010, 06:22 PM

haha youv been nominated for the pun-ner award hahahahahaha:D

ConcinusMan

07-11-2010, 09:06 PM

That is so deep...........
Let me get my boots.:D

XD times 100. LOL. ROTFLMAO!

guidofatherof5

07-11-2010, 10:21 PM

Here's another of Tank. This is a very content snapping turtle. Spends a lot of time cruising the living room. If you are in her way she will simply crawl over you. If I'm sitting on the floor she will climb up to my shoulder and sit there. Maybe she thinks she's some kind of bird. Tank has no startle response with me or anyone else in the house, even the dog.
I love her facial features. I think she's a pretty turtle. I'm hoping someday to hatch some snappers on the Ranch.
I love my radixes but think turtles are fascinating.
We have 5 other turtles(4-Western Painted(Chrysemys picta bellii) 1-Red-eared Slider(Trachemys scripta elegans).
We also have a African Spiny Tortoise(Geochelone sulcata)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank6.jpg

ConcinusMan

07-12-2010, 01:12 AM

Very pretty indeed. I like how the colors and patterns are included in her eye.:)

Charis

07-16-2010, 05:52 PM

Here is the newest addition to the zoo, Memphis.
Unfired.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/The%20Crested%20Geckos/000_0040.jpg

guidofatherof5

07-16-2010, 06:08 PM

Very nice.

drache

07-16-2010, 07:48 PM

sweet
I love cresties - they feel so velvety

Holly

07-17-2010, 12:13 AM

Yay! I still only have 2, I must have the best self control.

mrandmrsmarx

07-18-2010, 12:44 PM

hi everyone thought i would post some pics of our ever growing collection

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af195/mrandmrsmarx/SAM_0010.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af195/mrandmrsmarx/SAM_0016.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af195/mrandmrsmarx/SAM_0018.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af195/mrandmrsmarx/SAM_0022.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af195/mrandmrsmarx/SAM_0020.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af195/mrandmrsmarx/SAM_0027.jpg
thanks for looking

guidofatherof5

07-18-2010, 12:47 PM

Thanks for posting. All are beautiful.

adamanteus

07-18-2010, 12:54 PM

Very nice critters, Mark. Love the Blood Python!:D

mrandmrsmarx

07-18-2010, 12:57 PM

thanks alot ill also get some pics of the stunning garter snakes i purchased recently ;)

mustang

07-18-2010, 08:41 PM

is that a sav? or some goanna?

guidofatherof5

07-18-2010, 09:19 PM

Went by the local pond to try and net a couple young Painted Turtles. They stayed just out of net range.
While I was in a heavily sheltered area of the pond waiting for a turtle to surface I happened to look along shore and saw a head come out of the water. I did my best statue imitation and when the head went back under the water I scooped.
I came up with a rather nice young Snapping Turtle. The turtle seems to be in good shape. I removed some leeches and will de-worm in a few days.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/big_lake.jpg

mrandmrsmarx

07-19-2010, 02:10 AM

they are ridge tail monitors, also known as ackies...they are only small, even when fully grown :)

mustang

07-19-2010, 03:08 AM

they are ridge tail monitors, also known as ackies...they are only small, even when fully grown :)
oh theyre ackies ok that rings a bell

BUSHSNAKE

07-19-2010, 01:10 PM

i like the false water cobra

infernalis

07-19-2010, 01:16 PM

http://www.reptard.info/today/chomp.jpg

I just know I can climb up this, I know I can.....

http://www.reptard.info/today/chomp2.jpg

What's in here?? I'll just have a quick look....

http://www.reptard.info/today/chompboot.jpg

Chomper always likes to sit on the dash when he goes for a ride...

http://www.reptard.info/today/chompdash.jpg

mustang

07-19-2010, 01:17 PM

i like the false water cobraoh those r awesome...but little pet refrence is available so your more or less in the dark if u got one unless you have assistance or some knowledge with similar snakes

Selkielass

07-19-2010, 02:26 PM

Chomper looks like an amazing lizard!
(And people were impressed when I took my siamese cat for a walk- that was nothin' compared to Chomper!)

mustang

07-20-2010, 09:50 AM

Chomper looks like an amazing lizard!
(And people were impressed when I took my siamese cat for a walk- that was nothin' compared to Chomper!)
this will be me(xcept more girls and id never walk him in a really populated area that could stress it
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drache

07-21-2010, 06:16 PM

this is Retro
my male uromastyx dispar maliensis
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4816110187_51c10aae94_b.jpg

guidofatherof5

07-21-2010, 07:43 PM

Beautiful animal, Rhea.

guidofatherof5

07-21-2010, 07:45 PM

Robert,
Now that's a lizard. Thanks for posting.

adamanteus

07-21-2010, 10:43 PM

Beautiful Uromastix, Rhea.:)

ConcinusMan

07-21-2010, 10:54 PM

It's a friggen T-rex. holy moley.

Laura

07-21-2010, 11:58 PM

Aw Robert don't post monitor vids :( makes me soooo sad I can't have one :(

If you get one I want joint custody!

Laura

07-21-2010, 11:59 PM

It's a friggen T-rex. holy moley.

Lol it actually does have a t-rex head wow

drache

07-22-2010, 04:50 AM

Beautiful Uromastix, Rhea.:)
thanks James
you must get more sleep - I caught you in a spelling error
it seemed so unlikely I had to make sure it wasn't me who was in error

mustang

07-23-2010, 07:49 AM

Aw Robert don't post monitor vids :( makes me soooo sad I can't have one :(

If you get one I want joint custody!
you come to texas and elp me pay rent you bet ill share him with you! (i cant get one till i move out either)

Laura

07-23-2010, 07:52 AM

Well I HAVE moved out and I'm still not allowed one :mad:

mustang

07-23-2010, 07:55 AM

Well I HAVE moved out and I'm still not allowed one :mad:
y? its your life your place your rules

Laura

07-23-2010, 07:57 AM

Unfortunately my other half is very much against the idea of having something resembling a komodo dragon roaming about the house :(

mustang

07-23-2010, 07:59 AM

Unfortunately my other half is very much against the idea of having something resembling a komodo dragon roaming about the house :(
whos your other half? if its your concious then spray some raid around jimminy cricket and live a little:D

Laura

07-23-2010, 08:06 AM

Lol I'm engaged to a policeman by the name of Mark :P so you can imagine what'll happen to me if he comes home and finds a monitor chillaxing on my lap in front of the tv :D

mustang

07-23-2010, 08:08 AM

Lol I'm engaged to a policeman by the name of Mark :P so you can imagine what'll happen to me if he comes home and finds a monitor chillaxing on my lap in front of the tv :D
if hes cool hell wanna go pet it!

mustang

07-23-2010, 08:15 AM

hey the other day i was at petsmart and there was a fly on the camelion cage and they kept trying to get it.....it was funny

guidofatherof5

07-25-2010, 05:42 PM

ConcinusMan

07-25-2010, 07:55 PM

This is not my turtle but belongs to a friend.
Is this a face a mother could only love or what?
Hypomelanistic Common Snapping turtle(Chelydra serpentina)
The turtle was not in a good mood.
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/../thamphotos/data//500/medium/hypo_snapper.jpg

That expression is priceless! ^^^ Reminds me of the perverted old man on Family Guy!
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/34272_1216328970696_200_210.jpg

Here's yet another too-darn-cute photo of Thumbilina, one of my pomeranians.
http://a.imageshack.us/img801/8030/dsc00963medium.jpg

mustang

07-26-2010, 07:00 AM

o wow hey ur right perverted turtle lol....my friend can do a voice of the dude who answered the 911 call its funny

Snakeknot

07-26-2010, 08:52 AM

That turtle really DOES look like that character! BTW when ARE snapping turtles in a good mood?????

I grew up surrounded by marshlands and "progging" for snapping turtles to make stew was what many of the locals did. There's a story in my family of a snapper progger going to the local bar after a particularly good day and daring one of the drunks to kiss the turtle he had just caught.

The guy speaks with a lisp now!;-)

Devon

guidofatherof5

07-26-2010, 09:05 AM

I have a Common Snapper that is more docile than all the box turtles I've ever had. She(Tank) cruises the living room many times during the day. She climbs up on the kids and sits on their laps. She seems to enjoy having her neck rubbed and scratched. She's a little bigger than a saucer. Last year she was a hatchling.
She has very little if any startle response from any of us including the dog. I'm going to shoot some video of her one of these days and get it posted.
I also picked up another Common Snapper this weekend that seem very docile. It's a bigger male. Hoping to have a nice calm breeding pair someday.

Snakeknot

07-26-2010, 12:16 PM

Sounds like your house has some really good energy. Are there any bad tempered souls in your house, people OR critters???

Devon

guidofatherof5

07-26-2010, 12:40 PM

Sounds like your house has some really good energy. Are there any bad tempered souls in your house, people OR critters???

Devon

I have 4 daughter. There are times bad tempered isn't even close.:rolleyes:
No bad tempered animal at all.

ConcinusMan

07-26-2010, 12:43 PM

Yeah, I've seen plenty of decent sized adult snappers that were quite charming and tame.

Garter_Gertie

07-26-2010, 12:50 PM

Sorry to be a pest, but I need, yet again, the link to the 'other' board. My most beloved snakr, Anasazi - a Hoggy has died.

My garters all do well. As I type this I am feeding them. Chicken, actually. They are such food whores. I have learned over the time I have been away the PROPER way to pick them up, and that is behind the head. They are bitey little bastards! Still I love them, the poops.

I hope this finds LuLu, Stefan, et al very well and good. LuLu, I think of you so often as I read Egypt stuff.

If someone could also send me the email address of the Alaska guy I got my 'vicious' Pugets from, that would make me happy.

I see I have a private message. I have no Internet and have to use my phone, which os not forgiving. If the current 'head honcho' would contact me, I will give him/her my email to pass to those I know.

Bless you all.

Gertie

guidofatherof5

07-26-2010, 01:46 PM

Nice to see you on the forum, Gertie.

ConcinusMan

07-26-2010, 02:01 PM

guidofatherof5

07-26-2010, 09:41 PM

Here's my Son and Tank. Tank climbed up onto the couch and onto my Son's chest.
She then decided to take a rest. This turtle could run off and stay way from us but has decided to be part of the family. We love her and hope she lives a good long life on the Ranch.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/resting_Tank1.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/resting_Tank.jpg

ConcinusMan

07-26-2010, 09:47 PM

OMG....

It's Steve in his younger days. Mini-Steve.

Oh, neat turtle.

oki-inu

07-26-2010, 11:58 PM

Incredible pics, Steve. I've never experienced a docile snapper. Love it.

Snakeknot

07-27-2010, 04:06 AM

A friendly snapper. I'm afraid I don't know what that is!

Look at that red hair! Is there a little Irish in your gene pool???

My Mom's a red-head, one of 3 daughters that were all red heads. When I was a teen-ager she was trying to set me up with every red haired boy she saw because she wanted red haired grandchildren. I ended up marrying a curly, blonde haired Ukranian and skipping the kids bit. Its more fun to borrow your friend's kids and warp their brains before returning them!:)

Devon

drache

07-27-2010, 05:17 AM

I've got snapper envy now

guidofatherof5

07-27-2010, 05:41 AM

A friendly snapper. I'm afraid I don't know what that is!

Look at that red hair! Is there a little Irish in your gene pool???
Devon

Yes, most definitely.

ConcinusMan

07-27-2010, 10:41 AM

I always thought that blue eyes and red hair was a recessive gene, like our albino snakes, so mom must be "het" LoL.

My mother is blonde hair blue eyes originally (she's half cherokee) and my dad is brown eyes, black hair and half blackfoot. However, my mothers mother is a redhead, and my dads mother is a redhead. I ended up with red hair and hazel eyes.

guidofatherof5

07-27-2010, 11:46 AM

Here are a few other photos from my turtle day on Sat.
This is a Common Snapping Turtle with Kyphosis(bowing of the spine)
The bottom photo is of a 120 pound Alligator Snapping Turtle. The photo doesn't do it justice. The head is 9 inches across. This is one massive turtle.
My friend Mark and his wife do turtle rescues. The alligator snapper was rescued from a turtle butchery. It's gained about 40 lbs since Mark obtained it.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Kyphosis1.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Kyphosis.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/mojo.jpg

ConcinusMan

07-27-2010, 11:48 AM

Dang, he's a bigun.

Snakeknot

07-29-2010, 07:38 AM

I have to share what happened to one of our more high maintenance pets this week.

As some of you know, we have 3 horses. Back in 2008 we bought this gangly, 2yr old Haflinger gelding we nicknamed iNDee. ( Short for his official name of N.D.'s Pride ) He came with this lovely, double thick mane. (First pic ) Well this past winter he has done everything possible to wreck it, from rubbing it out on trees, and the fence, to getting burrs in it day after day, you name it he did it. This summer, he learned to escape from the paddock on almost a daily basis by reaching under the last strand of our high tensile fence and kept pushing until he squirted out underneath. ( This is the largest horse in the paddock. Jumping over is too much work! But weed-eating under the fence is not! ) This also did wonders for his mane. It finally ended up part dreadlocks interspersed with short, jagged patches that looked like a shocked, mad scientist's hair. UGH! How did he go from my pretty pony to THAT!

So we electrified the H**l outta the fence. He doesn't go near it now. And then I had to fix his mane. I don't think he approves of his new haircut much by the one pic! Oh Well!

Devon