Other pets (pics and discussions)

[kimbosaur]

I find that tank size plays a role in the number of babies they produce. I would suggest at least a 20 gallon if you need a constant supply.

[guidofatherof5]

Tank had a blonde(no offense meant) moment yesterday.

Tank had gone into the front bedroom for a nap. Later in the evening he came walking out. It was time to hydrate and probably use the bathroom.
As he made his way into the living room he encountered the vacuum I had left out. In typical Tank fashion he simply knocked it over and out of his way. It was then I think he lost track of where he was heading. He now seemed focused on the front sliding door. As he crawled past my laptop I yelled his name twice. He stopped and looked over at me. It was then he got back on track to his water. He really did have a "oh yeah" look on his face when I yelled at him.
He's such a funny turtle.

[Bear-Cat]

I literally read through all of these pages a little while ago. I love hearing about Tank!

[Spankenstyne]

Something a little different for you guys. I love these awesome little boas: Eryx conicus (or I guess "Gongylophis conicus" now..) aka Rough Scaled Sand Boas. I raised 1.2 from we babies over the last 5 years and this is the first time breeding them for me. The first female dropped these two and one slug that I found (may have been more that she got to first who knows). They were born on Canada day and just shed so I thought I would share a quick pic or two:


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Sand Boas/rsb1ajuly142012.jpg


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Sand Boas/rsb1bjuly142012.jpg


I have one more mama ready to pop any day, hoping for a few more healthy babies.

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful.

[ProXimuS]

Those little boas are so cute! Really pretty markings too:)

[xStatic]

I got a new pet so I thought I would update!

Trevor the male Western Toad:

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Trevor_1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Trevor_4.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Trevor_3.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Trevor_2.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

That is a good looking toad.

[xStatic]

That is a good looking toad.

Thanks! He knows it too haha He sings for me every night :rolleyes:

[guidofatherof5]

Thanks! He knows it too haha He sings for me every night :rolleyes:

Probably singing for his food.:D

[ProXimuS]

He's cool! I like that that 3rd picture, he looks kinda like a gangsta;)


Hey, xStatic I've gotta ask, do you like the band Static-X?:D

[Bear-Cat]

Toads are awesome. Nice little pets. Love to eat though!

[MCwyo]

Just thought I'd share some of my other pets:

Riley Roo, my best 4-legged buddy! She was a rescue from Montana. She's 5 years old now and we've had her since 9 weeks. We call her a lab/shepherd mix, but who really knows?

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3417/rooq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/rooq.jpg/)
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This is Dusk aka Doodles. He's almost 2. We have two other rats, Midnight and Timber, both females. All of them are VERY lucky "feeder rats" lol!!

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4443/duskm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/256/duskm.jpg/)
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[mikem]

Nice looking feeder! ;)

[MCwyo]

Thanks! He's a big fat fella. I never expected he would make it to this age (or size). He was kept in horrible conditions before I got him, and he had some very serious resperitory problems. I brought him back from the edge more than once when he first came to me. He lives the high life now, lucky dude :p

[guidofatherof5]

This may be the last update for our little Starling Sedonius.
Took the little fellow outside for some sun and this is what he did. Soaking it up.
1 minute later he stood up and flew off over the house. Haven't seen or heard from him since.
Hope he will be OK.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/wild_bird1.jpg

[mikem]

Is that normal Steve? Never seen a bird do that before. Very cool either way!

Panzer crawled underneath the bed earlier today. Been asleep for a little over 8hrs now. I'm gonna leave her alone tonight and let her enjoy the rest. I thought about putting down a towel... maybe next time, I don't want to disturb her :)
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[guidofatherof5]

It's just bird thermoregulation:D Many birds do it. Robins are noted for sunbathing.

Panzer is looking good. You'll have to get her a blanket. I think sleeping outside of water is good for them. No being disturbed to take a breath. Of course I might be wrong. That might be an automatic thing for them. I know Tank sure sleeps a long time when he's out of the water. The longest I let him go is 48 hours. He needs to hydrate and use the bathroom by that time.

[guidofatherof5]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank171.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank181.jpg

[kibakiba]

I love his paws... I'd be worried that he's rip the couch with him being so heavy and his claws look sharp.

[mikem]

Love those photos, especially him climbing on the couch :D

I do have what I call the turtle towel. I'll get her a blanket eventually.
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[guidofatherof5]

Tank goes through a few blankets a year. When getting settled in he locks those front claws in and tares the blanket. They are a very strong animal. If panzer locks into a corner with carpeting you'll pull the carpet loose from the floor getting her out. I think digging in like that makes them feel more secure.
I don't use towels anymore. Too easy for Tank to rip up.:D

[mikem]

I don't have carpet, so no worries there! She's still so small compared to Tank. I'll be able to stick to towels for a while before moving up to blankets :) I've seen her dig into the grass when I take her outside for some fresh air.

[guidofatherof5]

I love his paws... I'd be worried that he's rip the couch with him being so heavy and his claws look sharp.

They are sharp but don't seem to do any damage. He's ripped my arm a few times. He's a strong boy and hard to control when he wants to go somewhere or do something.

[Eight]

I had my poor sighted water dragon out last night. Noticed that he tries to eat shadows. Felt really mean laughing at him, but it was pretty funny. He is completely lame (as in injured) but he is still a great guy.

[mikem]

What happened with his eyes, Eight?

After a 25hr nap, I decided to wake Panzer. I gently lifted her from the floor and sat her on the bed... she didn't even open her eyes! I rubbed on her neck and feet for a few minutes and she finally woke and was ready to return to the water. I fed her and went out to the grocery store for about thirty minutes. When I got home, she was back out and under the bed, haha! I gave her a towel this time. Silly turtle.

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[guidofatherof5]

Sweet. She knows what she likes.
I put Tank on the scale this morning 15.81 lbs.

[Eight]

Panzer seems great. Apparently Snapping Turtles are one of the species we can keep outdoors in the uk. Do you guys provide huge ponds or something for yours?

As for my Water Dragon, he was a rescue case. His growth seems stunted (he is male and only two foot long, presumed around 4 yrs old now) and he was being kept in a 3x1x1 wooden viv when I saw him. His eyes are cloudy (i'm taking a guess but probably being too close to light sources, both uv and heat, for extended periods of time). The heat lamp wasn't even guarded. I don't guard mine but it is much much higher than in his previous home. His Left wrist also looks like it hasn't formed properly, or that it was broken in the past. He wouldn't eat when I brought him home and would spend most of his time with his eyes shut.
He is now a mean, green, eating machine. He has to be hand fed but he is getting better, the food has to be very very close and moving for him to try Hunting it himself. He also chased my cat a couple of times and seems pretty happy all round now. This guy deserves my time and attention. I'll post a few pictures up later. He really is a special guy.

[guidofatherof5]

Nothing huge for Tank. Not what I want but it's enough to hydrate/soak and use the bathroom.

[Eight]

Well you must be doing something right, he seems to be a happy guy. Was watching your youtube videos of him earlier to show a few work friends. He just seems like such a cool addition to a family. It still amazes me when you tickle/stroke his neck. Is Tank actually aware that he is a turtle?

[Steveo]

The cat and the new dog are getting along pretty well, though the cat is a **** and will run around just to get the dog excited at times.

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[katach]

My cute little froggies all staring in tne same spot.
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and the reason.....
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A fresh bunch of crickets. :D

[ProXimuS]

The cat and the new dog are getting along pretty well, though the cat is a **** and will run around just to get the dog excited at times.


Haha, just like a cat;)


Kat, what kind of frogs are those?

[kibakiba]

Pacific chorus frogs. I own some too. I had 3 but Shadow became food for one of the snakes when they didn't have any.

[Light of Dae]

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[mikem]

Kitties in the tub!! so cute :D

[RedSidedSPR]

What he said ^

[EasternGirl]

OMG Michelle! So adorable!

Hi Jesse...nice to hear from you.

[ConcinusMan]

They're thinking this would be a lot more fun if you would throw some goldfish

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/attachments/garter-snake-lounge/6056d1343096408-other-pets-pics-discussions-100_2799.jpg

[Stefan-A]

They're thinking this would be a lot more fun if you would throw some goldfish


Waiting for Steve to add: "Or a plugged-in hair dryer".

[ConcinusMan]

Sounds like something I would say. I am definitely not a cat person. Can't stand them. I must have some kind of mental block. Most people look at those kittens and see "cute". I don't see it.

[guidofatherof5]

Waiting for Steve to add: "Or a plugged-in hair dryer".

Yes, a hair dryer would really keep those little cute kitties warm and dry.:D:rolleyes:

You know me well Stefan.

[Light of Dae]

Kittens are cute, no denying that here... But if it wasn't for the hubby... I WOULD NOT have cats in the house... Outside for mouse control, yes. inside... no.

[Stefan-A]

Sounds like something I would say. I am definitely not a cat person. Can't stand them. I must have some kind of mental block. Most people look at those kittens and see "cute". I don't see it.
I prefer cats over dogs. There's something about the owner-dog relationship I find unappealing.

[guidofatherof5]

I prefer cats over dogs. There's something about the owner-dog relationship I find unappealing.

I prefer dogs over cats. There's something about the owner-cat relationship I find unappealing.:D

[EasternGirl]

I like both. But after my 17-year-old cats move on to kitty heaven, I will not be getting more cats. Discovered I was very allergic.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

I love cats i hope someday i can get an exotic cat. Nothing too exotic maybe a f1 savvanah or a f1 bengal.

[Steveo]

I like both cats and dogs. Dogs are much more fun but cats are so low maintenance. I can go camping for 3 days and leave the cat some extra food and water and she's fine. The dog has to come with me :p

[RedSidedSPR]

I prefer dogs over cats. There's something about the owner-cat relationship I find unappealing.:D

^^

I like cats, just not as pets.

[RedSidedSPR]

Sounds like something I would say. I am definitely not a cat person. Can't stand them.

Or "possums".

[Steveo]

I'm convinced my cat is part dog... she greets me at the door and sleeps with (usually on) me at night. She'll even come when called.

Most cats are kinda "meh" but every now and then you find a really cool one.

[Stefan-A]

I love cats i hope someday i can get an exotic cat. Nothing too exotic maybe a f1 savvanah or a f1 bengal.
Hybrids not too exotic? :D

[BLUESIRTALIS]

I know i don't favor hybrids either but that is about the only way to keep any exotic cats here in the states by law without special permits. At least they are half exotic bengals are bred from asian leopards and savannahs are bred from african servals.
hybrids not too exotic? :d

[Eight]

Introducing Rex, My not so normal Chinese Water Dragon.

I've had him just over a year now (I didn't name him, too stereotypical for me).

Well here he is, you can see a little of his left eye here:

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss11/SamHack/Forum Photos/_MG_4401.jpg

He's my special guy, and takes a little more care than most of my animals. He doesn't look his handsome self right now due to him being in the middle of shedding. When I got him he was in a 36x18x18 wooden vivarium, with a heat lamp pretty much balanced on his head. He is just over two foot long himself (don't think the previous owner quite knew how much they grew or how quickly. In fact I'm pretty sure he knew absolutely nothing about them. He probably only put a little water in with him as he's called a water dragon).

Here is his right eye, and his right lower jaw. It doesn't seem to bother him (and its a little messy as he just ate). His eye is the bigger issue. Both his eyes are like this, and it does affect his feeding although he id getting more used to it. Tonight while he was chilling out on the arm of my sofa, he quickly turned and managed to eat a small moth that landed next to him. This is pretty much the only time he has been able to feed himself without being made aware of the food first. Normally I hand feed him with tongs which are rubber tipped.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss11/SamHack/Forum Photos/_MG_4408.jpg

And last but not least here is his left wrist. Its pretty much always at this funny angle. Again it doesn't bother him and he gets around just fine. I'm not sure what caused it, whether it was a fall or from living in very cramped quarters when he was growing.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss11/SamHack/Forum Photos/_MG_4406.jpg



He really is my special little guy. He lets me know when he's hungry, and will quite happily bask on my sofa under a heat lamp. He may be disfigured but he really is still awesome and I could never give him up, no matter how much more work he is.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I'm glad you give these wonderful agamids the care he deserves:)

[guidofatherof5]

I like Rex.

[Invisible Snake]

Rex looks awesome, glad you're taking care of him!

[mikem]

He's a lucky dragon to have someone like you to care for him :)

[Eight]

Thanks guys. He is awesome and he has a home for life now.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

My four year old Crested gecko Spock.My first reptile.
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My 16 year old gold fish Emma.My sister moved out so I look after her now.She was named after one of the spice girls lol
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[ProXimuS]

16 years?!?!? How long do goldfish live?



Edit: Oh...Nice pics btw :D I got a little excited about the 16 year old goldfish!

[Eight]

Wow that really is an old goldfish. Nice crested too :)

[-MARWOLAETH-]

16 years?!?!? How long do goldfish live?



Edit: Oh...Nice pics btw :D I got a little excited about the 16 year old goldfish!I'm not 100% sure but I think they can live around 20-40 years!

[ConcinusMan]

16 years?!?!? How long do goldfish live?!

Let's put it this way. When I was in the first grade a friend of mine got several feeder goldfish. When we got to be over 21 and getting into bars, one of those fish was still living, and was around 12 inches long.

My great aunt had a small Koi in a heated outdoor fountain/pond. She had that thing for decades. As far back as I can remember.

[Charis]

I believe up to 40 years or more is possible for goldfish to live, from what I've heard.

My Rosy boa, Esme, just gave birth to six healthy little babies!
A few pictures of the new little ones.

Group shot of the first five.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/2a459a57.jpg

A single one.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/3c8d5a7d.jpg

Number six being born.
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/0166bc39.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/98e122d5.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/b2fcef0c.jpg

It's been about 40 minutes to an hour since number six finished being born but I'm not sure she is done yet. Seems to be slowly pushing another bump down.

[guidofatherof5]

Congrats. They look awesome.

[ConcinusMan]

Rosies are cool. My only experience with them is a few WC (coastal San Diego county) ones that I kept short term. Given the choices of wild snakes in that area, rosies were always a favorite with kids, due to their docile nature.

[mikem]

Congrats on the little ones! Looking good :cool:

[Invisible Snake]

Congrats on the litter! How big or rather how long do Rosy Boas get?

[Charis]

They are quite sexually dimorphic in size. My male is full grown and approx 19" and the female is about 3 feet. The Coastal locales get bigger, females up to 4 feet, the desert and mountain locales are the smallest.

[Eight]

I do like Rosy boas. I have a Kenyan and I'm coming to the conclusion it's a male. I think he'll be lucky to reach 15 inches in his case.

Great looking babies though. I really like stripes :)

[Charis]

They all pooped today, so while I cleaned their cages I went ahead and weighed them, snapped a few pics and sort of checked them for spurs. Since I was trying to stress them the least amount, not real sure about anything I may or might not have seen. Takes me awhile every time I use my husband's camera to get the hang of it. So the pictures slowly get better. These are all surprisingly big babies, they are all approx. 10 to 12 inches long.

ExS2012-1 *20grams, possible spurs.*
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/a8e6b5f1.jpg

ExS2012-2. 19 grams. No spurs?
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/366c3012.jpg

ExS2012-3. 22 grams. No spurs?
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/40ff88f9.jpg

ExS2012-4. 22 grams. No spurs?
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/f4576732.jpg

ExS2012-5. 19 grams. Forgot to check spurs.*
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/052247a1.jpg
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/0c0327f4.jpg

[Charis]

ExS2012-6. 21 grams. No spurs?
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/11a95319.jpg
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/8cb94938.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful.

[mikem]

Great looking babies :)

[mikem]

No new pictures right now, just wanted to update Panzer's weight. She's gone from 426g on April 3 (when I received her) to 900g as of yesterday! Doubled her weight in 4 months! The person I purchased her from said that they've had her since she was a hatchling and been feeding her pellets, minnows, crickets and worms. Oh, she was supposedly 2.5yrs old when I got her.

[Eight]

Does anybody on here keep amphibians? I'm trying to get ideas of how to set up a tank and it's really frustrating me!

[kibakiba]

With my frogs (they're wild caught from around my area) I just use potting soil, the kind without chemicals. I also have 2 plugs of grass from my yard... Until recently, I had sticks in there... But they didn't seem comfortable with them. I have seeds that are germinating that I plan on putting in with them after they aren't so breakable... I had 100 angelica sprouts and they crushed them all! Haha. Try frog forum, they have enclosure ideas.

[Eight]

I've been trying there but I find that I'm lucky if I ever get a response. I think I made the mistake of deciding on a species that needs a lot of water. I'm trying to incorporate a shoreline into a viv and that means water filtration. It's actually making steam appear from my ears.

[kibakiba]

Ouch, I don't blame you. Not many people there owned PCFs, I think 2 people responded to my old thread. Urrrgh. Haha.
Could you just keep it as a very simple enclosure for a week or two until you can get a little more info and plan out all of the things you need.

[Eight]

I'm actually doing it the other way around, and I'm putting together a planted vivarium with both land and aquatic plants. After I've set it up and left it to settle I'll introduce the occupants. I'm thinking I'll use a bio active substrate then it can all be left alone mostly

[Charis]

You might try Dendro boards. I had more luck getting my questions answered there, during my brief foray into keeping Bumble Bee walking toads. They are more dart frog oriented but the forum is more active and members seemed to keep a little of everything.

[mark cope]

Yet again I went to the shop to buy supplies and have come back with another snake:)
I only went to get a new viv lock for Jets viv .....and came back with this lttle stunner
http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/My%20Japanese%20Ratsnake%20Nigel/2012_08050008.jpg
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He is a Japanese Ratsnake........so I say to the kids what shall we call him and they decided it should be.......Nigel

[Eight]

Very pretty.I love the eye stripes that these and the beauty snakes have. How big will the little guy grow?

[mark cope]

Very pretty.I love the eye stripes that these and the beauty snakes have. How big will the little guy grow?
Can grow to 4/5 ft his colour will change as he reaches adulthood
http://www.generalexotics.com/images/Japanese_Rat.jpg
I really should stop going to that shop:)

[Charis]

Took Sebastian outside for a little photo shoot today. These were some of the best pictures I got.

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/aad96a62.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/My%20Rosy%20Boa/dfbbae37.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Good looking snake.

[ProXimuS]

They all pooped today, so while I cleaned their cages I went ahead and weighed them, snapped a few pics and sort of checked them for spurs. Since I was trying to stress them the least amount, not real sure about anything I may or might not have seen. Takes me awhile every time I use my husband's camera to get the hang of it. So the pictures slowly get better. These are all surprisingly big babies, they are all approx. 10 to 12 inches long.




What are spurs?!?!

[Charis]

Some snake species have little spurs by the vent, often called vestigial legs. In Rosy boas, and all others I've heard of, males have them and females almost never do. It's a fairly accurate way to sex them noninvasively. Actually I checked on them today to fill water bowls and see if they had shed. Held #4 for a few minutes and I'm pretty sure it has spurs. Little hard to tell on babies! But when I more seriously look for them on everyone, I'll use my 40x jewelers loup to look.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

What are spurs?!?!They are remnants of their evolutionary past.In other words they'r what left from their ancestors limbs.If you'r not squirmish here's a link to a documentary that shows the anatomy of a Burmese python and explains spurs Inside Nature's Giants - Monster Python - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubh6L8EvjQk&feature=showob) :)

[mark cope]

Little Neo is growing fast.......little piggy is on two pinks a week
http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/Neo/2012_07250001.jpg
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[Charis]

Awesome! Really like Thayers, would like to have one someday.

[EasternGirl]

Love all the new snake pics! Lovely snakes.

[ProXimuS]

They are remnants of their evolutionary past.In other words they'r what left from their ancestors limbs.If you'r not squirmish here's a link to a documentary that shows the anatomy of a Burmese python and explains spurs Inside Nature's Giants - Monster Python - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubh6L8EvjQk&feature=showob) :)

That video "has not been made available in my country":rolleyes:

But I get it now.;) I remember learning that some whales(and I thought some snakes?) have vestigial hip bones.

[Mandi0284]

Here are some of my other pets. I do have a 5.5 gallon fish tank with feeder guppies. But no one wants to see some silly fish.

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Spaz - Striped Whiptail

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Sabrina and Cosmo

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Chip

[guidofatherof5]

Tell us about Spaz. Please.

[Invisible Snake]

Spider hides in a womans ear canal for days! :O Doctors remove spider hiding in woman (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/doctors-remove-spider-hiding-woman-ear-canal-195029859.html)

[ProXimuS]

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[ConcinusMan]

Tell us about Spaz. Please.

Yeah, please do. I find them to be rather unsuited for most captive situations. They need a lot of room and rather high UV/ heat and low humidity. I mean strictly hot dry desert or they just don't make it. They also need to hunt a variety of insects all day, every day, to meet their high energy needs. Even when all that is done, then they just constantly bump the glass or root their noses raw trying to escape anything but huge enclosures. Does she lay there a lot with her eyes closed like that? That's the first sign of trouble. She should be alert and constantly on the move. Just saying, they're not easy and if she's listless...

Been down that road and they usually die slowly.:cool:

[EasternGirl]

Thanks a lot for telling me about the spider hiding in the woman's ear. Now I will be sleeping with ear plugs! I have a friend who said he was sleeping with his mouth open and woke up with a spider in his mouth. Ewwww....

Mike decided to mess with me the other day when I was talking about possibly having bedbugs and told me I might have a spider nest in my bed somewhere! That's fine Mike...if I see another spider in my room...I will be packing up my stuff, the kid, and all of the animals and coming to your house! :D

[Mandi0284]

Tell us about Spaz. Please.

She is a Plateau Striped Whiptail. My cat brought her home when I lived in Westminster. She was slightly injured from it, but has recovered nicely. Nothing major....some teeth marks on her tail.
Her species is all female and they are born with the ability to lay eggs. They live in wooded areas.

She has adapted really well to captivity. She eats crickets and flies and will readily take them from my fingers. Not much for being held, but she will let you touch her. Spaz is a really good digger lol.

When the light is off she will hide under her rock, but is usually active most of the day.

I will probably release her in the coming weeks. Once I get back from my vacation.

[guidofatherof5]

Thanks for the Spaz info.

[Light of Dae]

Thanks a lot for telling me about the spider hiding in the woman's ear. Now I will be sleeping with ear plugs! I have a friend who said he was sleeping with his mouth open and woke up with a spider in his mouth. Ewwww....

The average person ingests about 8 spiders a year while sleeping. I've woke up before, didn't move but just opened my eyes n there was a big wolf spider staring back at me. It was only like 2-3 inches away from my eyeball.

[guidofatherof5]

Poor spiders:D

[kibakiba]

How are they poor? They shouldn't be crawling around faces if they don't want to be eaten... Thats like a mouse bathing itself in worm juices right in front of a garter snake.

[guidofatherof5]

How are they poor? They shouldn't be crawling around faces if they don't want to be eaten... Thats like a mouse bathing itself in worm juices right in front of a garter snake.

I like spiders.:D

[kibakiba]

Yeah, I bet you eat them all the time.

[Light of Dae]

lol Sleep with your mouth open? nom nom nom. lol

I don't much care for spiders anymore... I'll take a picture of our porch/sunroom that we cannot use with out having half a freaking million spiders drop down on you. It is infested! They have breached to inside my house and declared war on me! They drop on me by the fridge, by my scorpions tank, by Ifrit's (beardie) tank, in the bathroom, by the tv, above my bed, EVERY FREAKING WHERE! I'm tired of them and found the equivalent of a nuclear warhead. Tomorrow I strike back.

I normally would never use a pesticide but this is too much, I've mashed every sac of eggs, I've squished and swatted n splatted hundreds already and destroyed all their webs three-five times in the past couple months and within two days it's like I never touched it.


I have to use wasp killer too...
Huge nest on my garage, I had put up one of those paper fake ones to hopeffully get them to vacate peacefully.... They bombarded it, tore it down. I cannot walk near that side of the building. Buddy of ours(drunk fool) thought sticking a can of monofoam (triple Expanding foam) would block them n kill them... He shoved the nozzle up there n sprayed... 20mins or less they had a new hole and were pissed.

Then a different friend(even dumber ...I don't care for his company most days) Decided that his can of bear mace would kill the wasps... He sprayed the whole can on the nest... I told him... it wouldn't kill them, just piss them off, don't do it. He had to cause he is ALWAYS right eh. They SWARMED out so fast! I was watching from inside my house. Laughing my butt off. as he came running back inside. My gut hurt I laughed so hard.

Funny how I'm always told, your wrong at first, but them get proven right... Much amusement.

I do not blame the wasps for being pissed off, But they gotta go.

[ProXimuS]

The average person ingests about 8 spiders a year while sleeping. I've woke up before, didn't move but just opened my eyes n there was a big wolf spider staring back at me. It was only like 2-3 inches away from my eyeball.

AHHH!!! I would freak out!! Glad you're working on getting rid of them!

There is an occasion, every once in a while, when one will "repel" down towards my bed from my ceiling fan, and that is quite alarming...I've never seen one in my bed when I woke up though!

[Stefan-A]

I hope you don't use any pesticides that will harm snakes or any of the invertebrates you happen to have.

[Light of Dae]

When I spray inside I will be taking EVERYONE outside (or in the far end of the house like my room with door shut towel under the door. The vents are even different since its an addition with separate furnace) for the entire day. Same with when I spray outside I will keep everyone inside and have the area blocked off so that when dog has to out to pee she won't investigate.

[Light of Dae]

Here is my big butt!
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She tries to eat my truck...
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This Rose(Big Butt) of mine has figured out she can walk through her fence. lol Put her back last night after Shade alerted me to her being out in the yard AGAIN! This time standing at the end of our drive way watching the few passerby's at around midnight. So I got up, shut the gates n sat in a chair n watched the meteor shower with Rose and Shade beside me.
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Loves to do her new job....
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She is our new lawn mower! The big green John Deere (looks small beside her big butt) is having issues running, needs a new carb or something fuel related. It's old.
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[Invisible Snake]

Your big butt looks awesome! lol jk :p

Is it expensive to keep and care for a horse?

[mikem]

That's fine Mike...if I see another spider in my room...I will be packing up my stuff, the kid, and all of the animals and coming to your house! :D
That's fine, but I must warn you, the spiders in my bedroom are bigger than the ones in your bedroom ;)

[ProXimuS]

She's soo pretty Michelle! What kind of horse is she?

[Light of Dae]

it can get costly to keep a horse very much so. Hay for the winter, feet done every two- three months, she needs her teeth done, deworming, vets etc.

She is a three year old Belgian Mare. BIG Butt. I cannot see over her back when beside her. 17+h tall.

[ConcinusMan]

Here is my big butt!
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I see you got my good side.:p

[-MARWOLAETH-]

How long do horses live?

[MCwyo]

I believe they can live up to 30 years, give or take?

[ConcinusMan]

The two in my front yard in San Bernadino Co. CA (owned by the landlord) are 25 years old and are considered very elderly. Their hair is graying, and they have other signs of advanced age.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKM57oyz0kM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeSMhN1X5T0

[ConcinusMan]

I believe they can live up to 30 years, give or take?

Sounds about right. Up to 40 is exceptional.

[Charis]

20 to 30 is about usual, with somewhere in the middle of that the average.

[ProXimuS]

it can get costly to keep a horse very much so. Hay for the winter, feet done every two- three months, she needs her teeth done, deworming, vets etc.

She is a three year old Belgian Mare. BIG Butt. I cannot see over her back when beside her. 17+h tall.

Awesome! I don't know too much about horses, but figured she was some kind of Belgian something. She looks exceptionally big! I really do like horses, though. I'd love to have one at some point.

[ProXimuS]

These are some pics of Tippy from last summer(I just got a thing to be able download my pictures to the computer after having lost the cord 4 years ago...So I've been going through alot of pictures!:p)

She loves tennis balls:D
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Chillin on the table:)
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[mark cope]

Wifeys guinea pigs has had piglets
http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/2012_08120024.jpg
The kids have named them Peppa and George
suppose they are cute ......but all I see is snake food:eek:

[ProXimuS]

suppose they are cute ......but all I see is snake food:eek:

They're too cute to be snake food!:p

[Charis]

My thoughts exactly! ^^

[mikem]

Mark, cute piglets :) Emily, Tippy looks like she's having a great time in those pics :)

[ConcinusMan]

suppose they are cute ......but all I see is snake food:eek:


Yeeeeah.. muahahaha.:p

Too late. You can't name the snake food.:cool:

[kibakiba]

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9150/sdc14618c.jpg
Big Legs and McCroak hanging out on a strawberry plant :)

[ConcinusMan]

There, you see. There's some frogs that can never be snake food. You done went and named them!:p

[kibakiba]

They've always been named. I've had BigLegs and McCroak for over a year now. I had Frogger but he stopped eating and died in the water dish. I also had Shadow, but feeding 3 frogs was too expensive.. So Shadow became Snake food. He's currently in the freezer. It was more humane than letting him go around here, there is no moisture at all. BigLegs and McCroak were going to be the ones I bred. I don't think I'll be able to do it... McCroak rarely croaks now. He croaked all through the past 2 winters and a little bit into spring and then stopped completely. I haven't heard a peep out of him. I want to get a divider and give them a 3/4 planted, 1/4 water enclosure. They don't seem to enjoy when I give them a large water dish for soaking. They always hang out in the plants.

[ConcinusMan]

It was more humane than letting him go around here, there is no moisture at all.

That doesn't seem to matter one bit with this species. I've found them up in trees, miles from water, in the driest part of the summer, in 100 degree heat. Didn't seem to bother them at all. I've released them in my yard, miles from water and I could still hear them croak from time to time, several years later. I still hear them croak (cool cloudy mornings or periods of high humidity after a rain shower) now and then in the backyard in Chehalis, and it's bone dry now and far from water.


They don't seem to enjoy when I give them a large water dish for soaking. They always hang out in the plants.

That's normal. They're terrestrial (land dwelling) frogs. Generally speaking, they only use standing water to breed. Other than that, they don't need much moisture.


McCroak rarely croaks now. He croaked all through the past 2 winters and a little bit into spring and then stopped completely.

Also normal for this time of year. Croaking for the most part, is for attracting mates and announcing their presence to rival males. Late winter into spring is the season for that.

[kibakiba]

McCroak must be confused then. He starts un October.

[ProXimuS]

OO OO! My package(mentioned in another thread) just got here a few minutes ago:D Here is Tippy's early birthday presents.

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The skull shirt says UV, which I was thinking meant it would glow in a blacklight(but why would a dog need a shirt that glows in a blacklight anyways:rolleyes:), but then I realized it says it turns colors in the sun. I took her outside to see it, and get a picture(pic didn't turn out) and it adds alot of pink and blue, pretty much right away. It's pretty cool:cool:

[mikem]

Nice. I like the sugar skull design :cool:

[Invisible Snake]

Nice!! It reminds me of Ed Hardy shirts :P

[ProXimuS]

Thanks guys:D Yea, she's a bada**:cool:

[EasternGirl]

Okay...I have just about had it with you people and your spider info! Do not tell me about how many spiders we ingest while we sleep each year! I will never sleep again! :D If I woke up and there was a wolf spider next to me...I would seriously run out of my house, down the street...and never come back. I once found a little spider in my bed and slept on the couch for three weeks. I have an exterminator who comes to spray for spiders now...but yes, the exterminator knows all about my snakes and all of my other animals and does not use anything harmful to them or spray anywhere in the vicinity of my garters. And yes, Mike...your spiders are bigger than anyone elses!

I like the picture of the horse..and his butt...lol...and the baby guinea pigs. My guinea pigs are getting very fat because I spoil them. They get a platter of veggies and fruit every night around 8pm. Around 7pm...they start squealing to high heaven for their platter!

[Invisible Snake]

Hook-legged spider found in Oregon cave - Yahoo! News (http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=Agdri817YIilwO7eBLDWoUObvZx4;_ylu=X3oDMTU4ZGt 0bTVsBGEDMTIwODE3IG5ld3Mgc3BpZGVyIGRpc2NvdmVyZWQgd ARjY29kZQNwemJ1YWxsY2FoNQRjcG9zAzEEZwNpZC0yNTgxMjg 4BGludGwDdXMEbWNvZGUDcHpidWFsbGNhaDUEbXBvcwM0BHBrZ 3QDNARwa2d2AzEwBHBvcwMyBHNlYwN0ZC1zY2kEc2xrA3RpdGx lBHRlc3QDNzAxBHdvZQMxMjc2MTM2NA--/SIG=13c1efdmb/EXP=1345395183/**http%3A//news.yahoo.com/rare-discovery-hook-legged-spider-found-oregon-cave-211926504.html) Since Marnie is a big fan of spiders, this link is especially for her lol :P

[guidofatherof5]

Tank is heading into a difficult month or so. I've seen this for the past 2 years (since he matured sexually) Spring and Fall he goes through a very restless stage. I've named this time for him "The call of the wild" He goes to the front sliding door and wants out. I feel bad that he won't be able to breed but it's best for him. We all tolerate his wandering and lost looks.
He is the most amazing turtle I've ever worked with. The last 4 mornings he's gotten out of bed when I came into the living room. We spent sometime outside the other day and Tank never left the property choosing to stay close to me. Tank just tipped the scale at 16 lbs.
I wish all of you could meet and spend sometime with Tank.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/tank331.jpg

[snake man]

Thats really cool how he bonded like that.

[Spankenstyne]

Haha reminds me of that TV commercial where the neighbour says his lawn needs bleach and that bees can't see turquiose(or something like that)... Wish I could find it.


lol Sleep with your mouth open? nom nom nom. lol

I don't much care for spiders anymore... I'll take a picture of our porch/sunroom that we cannot use with out having half a freaking million spiders drop down on you. It is infested! They have breached to inside my house and declared war on me! They drop on me by the fridge, by my scorpions tank, by Ifrit's (beardie) tank, in the bathroom, by the tv, above my bed, EVERY FREAKING WHERE! I'm tired of them and found the equivalent of a nuclear warhead. Tomorrow I strike back.

I normally would never use a pesticide but this is too much, I've mashed every sac of eggs, I've squished and swatted n splatted hundreds already and destroyed all their webs three-five times in the past couple months and within two days it's like I never touched it.


I have to use wasp killer too...
Huge nest on my garage, I had put up one of those paper fake ones to hopeffully get them to vacate peacefully.... They bombarded it, tore it down. I cannot walk near that side of the building. Buddy of ours(drunk fool) thought sticking a can of monofoam (triple Expanding foam) would block them n kill them... He shoved the nozzle up there n sprayed... 20mins or less they had a new hole and were pissed.

Then a different friend(even dumber ...I don't care for his company most days) Decided that his can of bear mace would kill the wasps... He sprayed the whole can on the nest... I told him... it wouldn't kill them, just piss them off, don't do it. He had to cause he is ALWAYS right eh. They SWARMED out so fast! I was watching from inside my house. Laughing my butt off. as he came running back inside. My gut hurt I laughed so hard.

Funny how I'm always told, your wrong at first, but them get proven right... Much amusement.

I do not blame the wasps for being pissed off, But they gotta go.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Okay...I have just about had it with you people and your spider info! Do not tell me about how many spiders we ingest while we sleep each year! I wonder how many spiders these guys ingest.Weird food! Eating spiders in Cambodia - Holidays in the Danger Zone: America Was Here - BBC travel & politics - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYXRQmOMv0c)

[ProXimuS]

Steve, I think we all probably wish we could meet and spend time with Tank:D


That hook handed spider is scary! And BLECK to the spider eating....:p

[Invisible Snake]

Who? Who? Two New Owl Species Discovered - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/two-owl-species-discovered-160100376.html) O.O

[EasternGirl]

Sometimes I hate you guys. :D Just kidding.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Sometimes I hate you guys. :D Just kidding.Sorry for winding you up Marnie:)

[Invisible Snake]

A few hatchling snow corns eating.

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[-MARWOLAETH-]

It's always nice to see snakes filling their faces.If they could talk I think they'd be saying "OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM":)

[ProXimuS]

How cute! Their markings almost look checkered after the neck area. Cool they're also getting down pinkies:cool:

[tress29]

It's always nice to see snakes filling their faces.
Yeah, when I thawed pinkies for my garters this week, I cut all 4 legs and the tail off one, gave the legs to the baby, the legless one to the eastern and the intact one to the coast. It was like Goldilocks and the three bears! Everyone had an appropriately sized dinner!

[annulataarethebest]

not garters but I've had some pretty awesome mexican milk snakes and california kingsnakes hatch out recently.
watching eggs hatch and baby snakes emerge is probably the coolest thing ever.

[ProXimuS]

Awesome! So cute:D What kind are the last two pics? Are those the kings?

[EasternGirl]

No problem with the winding me up, William. I can always take a joke.:D Those corns and kings and milksnakes are lovely. I saw some very lovely morphs of all types at the show I attended in Hamburg with Mike. I was very tempted to buy a lavender corn or king...so pretty! I would love to see a snake hatch out of an egg...any videos?

[mikem]

Nice. I like the striped albino king :cool:

[annulataarethebest]

Awesome! So cute:D What kind are the last two pics? Are those the kings?

yup, the 3rd pic is a Mosaic cal king clutch, and 2 albinos popped out too. the 4th pic is a clutch that had like 5 or 6 different pattern phases of cal kings, pretty sweet.

[guidofatherof5]

Good looking snakes.

[EasternGirl]

Okay...check this weird thing out...I have seen these before but have no idea what they are....aliens? Anyone?

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Watch out! It can see your every move! :D

[Invisible Snake]

Omg wtf is that? lol

[guidofatherof5]

Is it brown or green in color Marnie?

[mikem]

Ha, that thing is awesome! Love those "eyes" :D

[Steveo]

It's a caterpie. Duh.
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[Steveo]

But really, it's a caterpillar. Swallowtail butterfly larva.

[ProXimuS]

It's so funny...That it's pretty cute:p

[EasternGirl]

It was green...I have seen them a few times. I found it chillin under the trampoline in the backyard. It's so funny because they bobble their heads around and stare at you. I took him and put him under a tree. I remember now someone telling me they are larva...the head is actually not a head or something...I will look up some stuff on it.

[EasternGirl]

Nope...it's a head...they have a gland behind the head that puts out a stinky scent in defense...similar to musking. Cool.

[EasternGirl]

Here is my Presley...

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[Invisible Snake]

I miss having a dog :(

[EasternGirl]

You can't get another one? My dog is nuts. He is the sweetest boy when it comes to me...he thinks I am his doggy mama or something. But try to get near me or my bed if he is on it and he will turn into Cujo and bite the living crap out of you. He is a typical "Chihuahua from Hell"...if you have ever seen that episode of Dog Whisperer...you'll know what I mean!

[mikem]

Nice to see little Presley again :)

[ProXimuS]

He really is a cute boy:)

[Invisible Snake]

You can't get another one?

I probably can (even though the new building rules don't allow it) but it wouldn't be the same. Growing up we had a female chihuahua who was literally part of the family everybody loved her, she had the loudest bark but no bite lol and unfortunately she died in 2007 of old age (she was 17). My older brother got a puppy (a pitbull) the following year in 2008 but it wasn't the same. To me it was like a family member died and then a new person came as a replacement. I don't know I guess it was too soon.

But on the bright side I'm now addicted to garter snakes and now have 20 :D

[-MARWOLAETH-]

In the bottom picture it looks like a dog flavored sandwich...

[Invisible Snake]

This cat is purrrdy!

Two-faced cat is drawing double takes across Web - Animal Tracks (http://animaltracks.today.com/_news/2012/08/29/13546539-two-faced-cat-is-drawing-double-takes-across-web?lite)

[ProXimuS]

That's soooo cool!:eek: The eyes and the hair and everything! I know a dog that we call "Two face" that is light brown with a darker brown have of his face, but not to that extent, and not different eyes like him. That's really amazing!

[ConcinusMan]

Awesome! So cute What kind are the last two pics? Are those the kings?

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/attachments/garter-snake-lounge/6471d1345887980-other-pets-pics-discussions-cimg3567.jpg

California King Snakes. Lampropeltis getula californiae. Even in the wild, in coastal San Diego County, CA, I've found newly hatched litters under boards, with striped and banded babies, and one time, several albinos together, along with their empty egg shells. All the ones you see there are naturally occurring morphs.

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/attachments/garter-snake-lounge/6498d1346172370-other-pets-pics-discussions-pb280005.jpg


But really, it's a caterpillar. Swallowtail butterfly larva.

I agree. I've only found bright green ones though. They live in tree tops as larvae. By the this time of year, they are ready to pupate and sometimes can be found on the ground. Then, they crawl up and find a suitable sheltered place to hang as a pupa.

I have pics I posted somewhere of a pupa I had, but I can't find it at the moment. The pupa looks like this:

http://www.butterflyfunfacts.com/images/tstpupa6.jpg

I'd say your location makes it most likely that your caterpillar is that of a western tiger swallowtail, like the one in this video I shot a while back:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBI9x_xwA4Y&list=UUCtGJ_qv-_Klff1aI8C5kLQ&index=12&feature=plcp

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2318/butterfly014large.jpg

The "eyes" aren't really eyes. They're just markings. Presumably there to startle or surprise a would be predator.

[ProXimuS]

That butterfly is really pretty. It looks nice on those colorful flowers too:)

[ConcinusMan]

Also our largest butterfly here in the west. They're huge. You can actually hear the sound of their wings flapping as they "flutterby"

[Spankenstyne]

Here's something I'd like to share, a personal first: baby Russian Tortoises!


I caught the biggest female digging what I thought was a nest hole to lay some eggs, but when she was done she didn't fill the hole back in like she normally does. Upon closer inspection I was absolutely shocked to see a fresh baby sitting up in the dirt at the edge of the hole under the cover of their hide. A careful sweep of the hole with my hand to see if I could find more of the eggs (they have usually laid 2-3 at a time) and I saw movement beneath. One more baby poked it's feet and head out of the dirt.


I had decided this spring after several years of nice looking but infertile eggs, "screw it... I'll leave them in the dirt and see" since I've tried pretty much everything else with no success. What I found fascinating was how the mother took the time to dig out the dirt to help the babies come out, or at least appeared to be doing so. The dirt was pretty dry as well which was really surprising.


A quick shot taken this morning of them. The first one I had just rinsed off and the second one was exactly as I found it, seconds out of the dirt.


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Russian Tortoises/t1a2012aug29.jpg


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Russian Tortoises/t2a2012aug29b.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

That is very cool. Congrats.

[ProXimuS]

How cute!! So are these guys wild? Or are they pets?

[Spankenstyne]

They are pets :)

[Mandi0284]

A friend of mine who I work with caught a very young horned lizard. To be species specific....which I like to be....(she) is a Short Horned Lizard. They are all over his parents property near Alamosa, CO. He is not able to keep her, so I got a new friend.

Here is a picture of the little lizard. She is so tiny, but eating well. My friend gave the horny toad some ants before I picked it up. Gotta collect some more tomorrow after work.

Not named yet, but open to suggestions :)

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[kueluck]

I LOVE these, but the care is way to intense for me. You need to keep them hot, like 110 degrees hot and I just can't afford that kind of electric bill. I saw these at the Myrtle Beach ReptiCon this month. A MUST (or they will die) is the Repashy Formic-Cal Plus Ant Eater Supplement Repashy Formic-Cal Plus Ant Eater Supplement 5.3oz (http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/reptile-supplies/canned-food-and-diets/lizard-monitor-and-gecko-dry-and-canned-foods/-/repashy-formiccal-plus-ant-eater-supplement-53oz/) This way you can also feed them roaches, crickets and other insects.

[Mandi0284]

I have never heard of that product before. I have to collect some harvester ants for her after work today. Horny toads need the folic acid in the ants or they don't survive. I will have to do some research to see if that suppliment is safe for horned lizards. I find that a lot of sites really don't know as much about reptiles as they would like to think they do.

The place I got my tadpoles from didn't know anything about garters. They suggested goldfish and were confused when I told them goldfish weren't safe for garters.

[Invisible Snake]

Congrats on the new addition to your reptile collection. I have read that those lizards are incredibly hard to successfully keep in captivity so good luck and keep us updated on his/her progress. Also if you have trouble finding or catching harvester ants, you can buy them online.

[Light of Dae]

Cute little lizard... Have also heard that they are insanely hard to keep alive... Majority of people who try to keep them end up killing them. Unintentionally

... Try to create a living vivirium, ant colony and plants etc... that would be my best bet... Heat mat and 150w bulb ... lots of heat.

Good luck.

[kueluck]

It's a new product designed just for the horned lizard. I talked to a guy at Myrtle Beach about this. Since this product has been tested and does what it's suppose to do he started raising the horned lizards since this would make it possible for them to survive in captivity where ants might be hard to come by.
I have never heard of that product before. I have to collect some harvester ants for her after work today. Horny toads need the folic acid in the ants or they don't survive. I will have to do some research to see if that suppliment is safe for horned lizards. I find that a lot of sites really don't know as much about reptiles as they would like to think they do.

The place I got my tadpoles from didn't know anything about garters. They suggested goldfish and were confused when I told them goldfish weren't safe for garters.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Why do they need the folic acid?

[Mandi0284]

It helps their digestion. Without it they get intestinal blockages and they dont survive that.

I know of some sites that you can buy harvester ants, but my apts might freak out if they get shipments of live ants. I may have to order some of that suppliment and see if it works.

[ProXimuS]

So today was Tippy's 5th Birthday:D We had a little party for her at work like we did last year. It was little less fun, because it started pooring...But she still got her cake and bunches of attention, which that doesn't differ from any other day at work...:p And she still got to play in the rain, so she had a fun day.

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She got her cake, and ate it too:)

[snake man]

She is very cute.

[guidofatherof5]

Awesome. I sure miss my old girl.

[EasternGirl]

She is so cute. I miss my yellow lab so much. I know what it is like to not want to "replace" a beloved pet. I am actually a big dog person...my yellow lab, Kaela, was everything to me. I still get upset talking about her or looking at pics of her. She died 2 years ago...she was 12. Presley will never replace Kaela...but I have learned to love him in his own way. He's my boy.

[Invisible Snake]

Happy Birthday Tippy! Hey Emily what was the cake made out of?

[ProXimuS]

Tippy says thanks everyone!

I know what it's like losing an older dog. My first dog I had since I was 6 till I was 17. I still miss her alot! Tippy is definitely not a replacement(actually didn't plan on getting her)but, like you said Marnie, I love her in her own way:)

Invisible Snake, the cake was just a regular vanilla human cake:o I know it's really not great for her....But it's her birthday:D(She only had the one piece.)

[EasternGirl]

You know they make cookies and ice cream for dogs...I bet they make cake for them too...actually, I think I have seen recipes for it. You could google it and make her a special doggy cake for her next birthday!

[ProXimuS]

Yea one of my co-workers made all different kinds of doggie cupcakes for her dogs 14th birthday. I'm just kinda lazy....And then all of us humans got to eat cake too:D I guess I could've been cool and made cake/cupcakes for the dogs and bought a seperate human cake....But I just bought the human cake, let Tippy have some, and made "goodie bags" for her dog friends, with dog treats. We sell some of the doggie ice cream and cookies and stuff too:p Tippy likes those also.....Sweet potatoe and molasses.....Bleck!

[ProXimuS]

Yea one of my co-workers made all different kinds of doggie cupcakes for her dogs 14th birthday. I'm just kinda lazy....And then all of us humans got to eat cake too:DI guess I could've been cool and mad cake/cupcakes for the dogs and bought a seperate human cake....But I just bought the human cake, let Tippy have some, and made "goodie bags" for her dog friends, with dog treats. I guess next year I could make one and she can have more than just onepiece!:p We sell some of the doggie ice cream and cookies and stuff too. Tippy likes those also.....Sweet potatoe and molasses.....Bleck!

Edit: Ok I don't know what happened...sorry for the double post. I tried to edit the first post and it like added all this crazy code stuff where the smileys were, so I had to delete all that, and then I post it and it just completely reposted it....:confused:

[ConcinusMan]

This cat is purrrdy!

Two-faced cat is drawing double takes across Web - Animal Tracks (http://animaltracks.today.com/_news/2012/08/29/13546539-two-faced-cat-is-drawing-double-takes-across-web?lite)

That cat is definitely a chimera.

[guidofatherof5]

Tank was under the weather for a few days with an upset stomach but has recovered and is back to normal.
He continues to grow and interact with the family. I wouldn't change a thing about him.
He's over 16 lbs now and has his 4th birthday coming up next month.
This is one good turtle.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/tank231.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/tank223.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/tank212.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/tank201.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/tank191.jpg

[ProXimuS]

I love Tank! He's so cool:cool: Glad he's doing better!

Just curious, is his mouth area like a beak kind of? It looks like it is made of beak/nail type of material?

[guidofatherof5]

Razor sharp beak.

[Invisible Snake]

Tank is looking great!

How did you know Tank had an upset stomach? Loss of appetite or abnormal looking feces?

[ProXimuS]

I like it how his mouth is, it looks cute:) It's like a birdle(bird turtle:p)

Does he get something special for his Birthday?

[snake man]

Thats amazing hate to ask but is he potty trained?

[guidofatherof5]

Thats amazing hate to ask but is he potty trained?

Yes he is.

[guidofatherof5]

Tank is looking great!

How did you know Tank had an upset stomach? Loss of appetite or abnormal looking feces?

Soiled his blanket 3 days in a row and it was nasty. More nasty then normal :D
He's usually very good about waiting until he's in his water.

He is sleeping on his pillow under his blanket. He looks so comfortable. Neck all stretched out and resting on the high side of the pillow.
:D

[guidofatherof5]

I like it how his mouth is, it looks cute:) It's like a birdle(bird turtle:p)

Does he get something special for his Birthday?

A family party with cake and ice cream. I'll get him a steak or two.

[mikem]

Glad to hear Tank is feeling better :)

[ProXimuS]

A steak, or two?! I want my next Birthday at the ranch:D:p

[EasternGirl]

Okay...that's it! I'm calling Cesar Millan. My Cujo chihuahua is now attacking people...he is going after my son's friends. This is not good...if he bites a child...I am in trouble. I have had it with the little devil. I love him and he is sweet as can be to me...but if a cat gets near me...he attacks the cat. If my son gets near me...he goes after my son...although he normally loves my son. If someone comes in the house and he is not in his bed...he goes berzerk and beelines straight for them and attacks. Do you think maybe Cesar would let me work for payment? Lol...

[Light of Dae]

I would call him, if I were you. Tell him to do it for free lol Your son needs it.

I just met a couple n a dog they are fostering and am going to help them socialize her cause she is aggressive to other dogs, but they were happy with how I handled my excited Shade n we got to talkin n yea,. will see how things good. I love my Shade'y dog! She's sure a good girl.

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Had my Ifrit running around the house n this is where he ended up lol trying to climb back in his tank.
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Kittens are growing... having a hard time finding homes for the brats as they are eating me out of my home!
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[ProXimuS]

Marnie, sorry to hear about Presley's behavior. There may be some good/affordable trainers in your area:confused: I know it's awkward to have a dog that acts like that. Honestly, Tippy is kinda like that:p I know the pics I've put up don't portray that, but she's really weird about any person she doesn't know. Especially in the hosue. She doesn't bite, but if someone didn't listen to her crazy barking and still tried to pet her she probably would. It's embarrassing at work, when customers are trying to talk to me, and my dogs causing a big scene:rolleyes: She has come a long way since I found her though, I've just had to really work with her.

[EasternGirl]

Well...it's getting dangerous at this point...because if he bites a kid, the parents could call animal control and that would not be good. He still needs to be neutered...which might calm him down some...but chihuahuas can be like this. I am so broke right now it isn't even funny...but I can try to find a trainer when I have more money. Emily...you got your custom title!

[Light of Dae]

Well...it's getting dangerous at this point...because if he bites a kid, the parents could call animal control and that would not be good. He still needs to be neutered...which might calm him down some...but chihuahuas can be like this. I am so broke right now it isn't even funny...but I can try to find a trainer when I have more money. Emily...you got your custom title!

Stop by some cattle farmers n get them to put castration band on his little fur bits. It works on cats, bulls, dogs etc. If you lived near here I'd do it for you. Done it lots on farms to the mouser cats to control population.


Chihuahuas... Don't blame the breed, if you watch ceaser Milian you know this.

Maybe try changing(drastically) EVERYTHING about how you are with Presley; from you n him alone time, to how you react to his actions, to your tone of voice in talking to him.

[jitami]

Marnie, I'd start by keeping the little stinker leashed to you at all times. Obviously on a Chihuahua this can be a thin little leash that's hardly noticeable. Tie it to your belt loop and he follows as you move about your day. He's never out of reach and always right under your control so he has no opportunity to act poorly. Do you have a crate for him? Any time you can't have him leashed to you or anytime you have guests over I'd put him in the crate. Eventually you'll be able to try him with guests out of the crate, still leashed, after he's learned appropriate ways to deal with the guests. If he's excited and really wanting to see them, but gets too nippy out of excitement it should be fairly easy to train him to sit for attention. Just the act of him having to think 'Oh, I need to sit if I want them to pet me!' will slow him down a bit and take his mind off of snapping for a few seconds anyway.... you'll be able to stretch the time gradually. If he's nipping because he really doesn't want anything to do with them he may be very happy to just go to his crate or a bed and stay there while you have visitors.

Call your local animal shelter and explain what's going on and see if they have free training classes... ours does for pit bulls and I'd be surprised if the didn't offer some sort of help for a Chi. Our shelters here are over run with pitbulls & chihuahuas, so helping to keep them safely in a home should be a valuable thing to them?

This is a decent program for dogs who are starting to get out of control - Nothing in Life is Free (http://k9deb.com/nilif.htm) - even though all of the dogs I have right now are pretty easy going and mellow I still use parts of this program on a day to day basis to shape behavior I don't want into something acceptable. For example, Gizmo, one of 2 of our basset hounds, came to us really really mouthy. He wasn't biting to be nasty he just wanted attention and boy did biting at our hands work to get it. They don't care so much if it's negative or positive attention they just want to interact with you. I had everyone in our house completely ignore any biting or mouthiness. No need to tell them no or punish them, simply ignoring it will usually do the trick because it's not getting them what they want. Gizmo on his own started nosing my hand with a closed mouth while I was waiting for him to sit calmly. I decided I would take the nosing and rewarded him big time with lots of praise and attention. Really carry on a bit so they know what they did was right. It took a few times, but even now almost 4 years later that's how Gizmo lets us know he wants petted. We don't have to really think about any of it anymore. He's never mouthy now at all and usually gets petted before he ever has to nose anyone, but when he needs to communicate that message to us he now has an acceptable way to do it. Does that make sense? It really wasn't difficult at all, it just took some time of all of us being consistent for it to really sink in that nosing was the way to get what he wanted (petted) and not mouthing which got him nothing at all.

Fwiw, I am not a trainer by any means and these are just suggestions. I have lived with multiple great danes over the last 12 years or so and have always been a 'dog person'. The danes are so large they just have to behave, period, so while I haven't done extensive formal training they all behave pretty well because I don't tolerate anything else. Again, you don't have to be mean or loud, just consistent... like raising little kids :)

[mikem]

Getting him neutered may help with aggression. Sometimes it does, sometimes it don't.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

I know it would make me angry.:eek: I would bite everyone after that.:p

Getting him neutered may help with aggression. Sometimes it does, sometimes it don't.

[EasternGirl]

Lol...and thanks for all the advice you guys. I watched the Chihuahuas From Hell video of Cesar Millan's. I tried using his tactics with Presley...but it didn't work. I have made some progress with him...and I always keep him in his bed now when company comes over. I will see what happens after neutering...the thing about obedience classes is that I don't know how he would do with other dogs...he doesn't like them either. I really need a private trainer...but I can't afford it. If they had a class specifically for Chihuahuas, that would be good.

And if you have seen the Chihuahuas From Hell video...you will see that many of them are exactly like this. Watch it if you can...it's pretty hysterical.

[Stefan-A]

Hah. The meekest dog I've ever encountered was a chihuahua.

I've been bitten by a couple of dogs, though. One border terrier and one miniature pinscher (it took a few minutes before I realized it must have bitten me).

[guidofatherof5]

Hah. The meekest dog I've ever encountered was a chihuahua.

I've been bitten by a couple of dogs, though. One border terrier and one miniature pinscher (it took a few minutes before I realized it must have bitten me).

That's terrible. Are the dogs OK?:D

[Stefan-A]

That's terrible. Are the dogs OK?:D
Well, the border terrier is dead.

[Light of Dae]

the thing about obedience classes is that I don't know how he would do with other dogs...he doesn't like them either. I really need a private trainer...but I can't afford it.

Maybe getting him socialized with other dogs would help. Put up flyers in pet stores, malls, walmart etc, "Socialize my dog parties" Explain that he needs some doggy friends (and maybe some manners) get him a muzzle to make it safe for all parties involved.

Maybe talk to a shelter n see if they can help socialize him, like if any of their dogs there are really well behaved n good examples for him to learn from.


Getting him socialized will help his attitude. A lot.

[guidofatherof5]

I have to share with you my time with Tank last night.
I've learned many of Tank's tells which let me know how he's feeling and hopefully what he's thinking. Last night after he had dinner I noticed he was making small scratching motions with his front paws. This means he is tired and ready to get some sleep.
The next thing he will do is come partially out of his enclosure but not go to bed in his blanket. He did this 4 times. On the 5th time I lifted his blacket up and patted the area he sleeps in, encouraging his to get some sleep.
This time he cocked his head and looked down at the area I was patting and then the lifted blanket.
He then looked me in the eyes and backed into his water.
The punk knew what I wanted but refused to give in.
A few minutes later he couldn't take it anymore and came out to bed.
He reminds me of a little kid doing everything they can think of not to go to bed.
The more I work with Tank the more he impresses me with his intelligence and his docile behavior.
I feel fortunate to have this opportunity and enjoy every second I have with him.

[tress29]

We are adopting a 15ish yo Eastern Box turtle from my SIL. They've been trying to give Mildred to me for over a year! My son wants her and swears he'll take over her primary care. He's much more involved with Eli, so I hope this goes well. Gonna have to make a lid for her tub so the cat can't pester her. I'll post pics when she arrives...

[Charis]

Nice! I've really been thinking about an Eastern Boxie, maybe once we get moved into our own house and I can do up a nice outdoor enclosure ...

[tress29]

Nice! I've really been thinking about an Eastern Boxie, maybe once we get moved into our own house and I can do up a nice outdoor enclosure ...
Yeah, I've been online looking for ideas. I've seen everything from from hinged lids that open (to protect the little buggers from predators) to whole back yards, divied up for each species!

The dogs think they own the back yard, the might have to start sharing!

[snake man]

Owl only wants head scratched - Bing Videos (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/owl-only-wants-head-scratched/1jrxs7bu7?q=viral&rel=msn&from=en-us_msnhp&form=MSNrll)


Though i would post this.

[ConcinusMan]

Just saw that owl recently but it was on youtube and called "owl thinks it's a cat" or something like that. That owl must have been hand raised. The behavior seen there is a feeding response but I don't mean like an adult would respond. That's how baby owls beg to be fed. (the video on youtube)

[snake man]

Its amazing how animals will adapt to humans like that even one raised with humans.

[GarField000]

I also have some corns ....
12 off them ....
These are 5 of my females from last year.
http://imageshack.us/a/img853/3340/2011dames.jpg.

I also have a chameleon .... or what it is in english.
He just shedded that day and I found him sleeping like this.
I gently opened the door and made a picture.
http://imageshack.us/a/img21/6664/flitsslaap.jpg

And I have a spider.
http://imageshack.us/a/img651/3971/dscn12751.jpg

[snake man]

The corns look awsome im not a big fan of arachnids though.

[tress29]

Awesome color on the chameleon!

[Invisible Snake]

Hey do you house your corns together?

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Great picture of that Panther Chameleon!

[GarField000]

Thx all.


Hey do you house your corns together?

yes I house about 2 or 3 corns together when adult. When smaller like these I have 5.
All females (or males in a different tank).

Here in holland a lot keep them seperate in boxes. But I keep them in tanks like the garters (which is also done a lot :) )

[Invisible Snake]

Thx all.



yes I house about 2 or 3 corns together when adult. When smaller like these I have 5.
All females (or males in a different tank).

Here in holland a lot keep them seperate in boxes. But I keep them in tanks like the garters (which is also done a lot :) )

Have you ever had a problem with housing them together?

I keep babies together (according to sex) but house them individually when they become sub-adults.

[EasternGirl]

My English teacher...who is really cool, and happens to be named, CC...lol....she has a ranch and raises and rescues horses and dogs...so cool...anyway, she showed us this video of a bulldog doing flips on a trampoline yesterday. It was the cutest video. She said she is going to post a link to it on our class page...then I will post it on here for you guys.

[HazAnga]

Today i went with a buddy to the Canadian Reptile Breeders Expo in Mississauga Ontario and I found an awesome steal!
I saw them at a couple other booths and they were like $240-$260, well i found my Brazilian Rainbow Boa Female and her price tag was $140!
I had to get her it wasn't really an option with that price. She's calmer (not when the guy probed her) then i initially figured she would be since working at the pet store i used too the rainbow boas usually were a little more... agitated i guess you could say.
This is my first boa and i only plan on getting one other kind of boa (suri http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)

I'm a little stumped on a name, Medusa comes to mind but i think theres another name out there that fits better.

here's some pix
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/BRB%20Female/IMG_1078.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/BRB%20Female/IMG_1077.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/BRB%20Female/IMG_1076.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/BRB%20Female/IMG_1074.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k491/HazAnga/BRB%20Female/IMG_1073.jpg


What ya'll think?

[snake man]

Very cute and cool.

[GarField000]

Very nice Boa HazAnga (http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/members/hazanga.html).


Have you ever had a problem with housing them together?

I keep babies together (according to sex) but house them individually when they become sub-adults.

What kind of problems? I never had any problems with my corns. I have 2 adult female tanks. One with 2 and one with 3 females. And I have the 5 females from last year toghether. I heard from a friend that he has 2 females and one male in one tank, but that gives problems. The male only thinks about new babies ...... the females are sick and tired off the male and get into stress. But when the male is out there is no problem. When I feed them I take them out and put each one in a feedingcontainer. Feed them .. leave them there for about 30 min. Put them back in the tank with fresh whater. I have had no problems. You don't want to put 5 adult corns in a tank from 100 cm. I have 2 in a 100 cm tank, 3 in a 120cm tank, 5 from last year also in a 100 cm tank. (100 cm is about 40 inch or 3.3 feet)

[Invisible Snake]

What kind of problems?

I only ask because I posted on a cornsnake forum that I housed a few babies together by size and sex, and people were posting that that is animal cruelty because corns aren't social animals and need to be housed individually. They said that "cohabbing" is an accident waiting to happen and that when I see the corns all huddled together that they were competing for resources like the best hide or warm spot and warned me of potential cannibalism.

[tress29]

I spent some time rearranging two of my fish tanks today. I added grapevine (boiled for hours!) to my 3 gallon, and planted some lutea. I left the stargrass to float, but once the lutea get taller, I'll toss it. I just don't like it as much as I thought!
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii46/tress29/3gal008.jpg

I planted a larger anubis in my 5.5 gallon tank and rearranged the rest. My puffer died last week and I decided to replace him with a dwarf gourami. He's hiding in there! They are "recommended" for larger tanks, so I'll keep an eye on him for stressful behaviors!
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii46/tress29/3gal006.jpg

[HazAnga]

I only ask because I posted on a cornsnake forum that I housed a few babies together by size and sex, and people were posting that that is animal cruelty because corns aren't social animals and need to be housed individually. They said that "cohabbing" is an accident waiting to happen and that when I see the corns all huddled together that they were competing for resources like the best hide or warm spot and warned me of potential cannibalism.

That would be from cornsnakes.com and I do not believe in co-habbing corn snakes what's so ever. Corn snakes aren't social animals like garters are. They can and will eat each other purposely or accidentally. The huddling together isn't the same as what garters do. It is competing for best spot and temperature. This information isn't from newbies its from very knowledgeable corn keepers, breeders and herpologist's. It'd be like asking one of the reputable and knowledgeable garter breeder/keepers for garter info.

[guidofatherof5]

Tank is growing to be a fine young male snapping turtle (Chelydra serpentina)
He's one handsome man.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/tank312.jpg

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Your a lucky man to have such a great fine companion as Tank:).
For how long will tank continue to grow?

[GarField000]

I only ask because I posted on a cornsnake forum that I housed a few babies together by size and sex, and people were posting that that is animal cruelty because corns aren't social animals and need to be housed individually. They said that "cohabbing" is an accident waiting to happen and that when I see the corns all huddled together that they were competing for resources like the best hide or warm spot and warned me of potential cannibalism.

Let's not get into this on thamnophis.com :).
Here in holland there is also much discussion in keeping corns in tanks (for reptiles with doors in the front) or in boxcontainers.
There is not much discussion about housing corns together ...... You keep them in a tank with more then one, or you keep them in a boxcontainer one by one ..... but the ones that keep them in boxcontainers are 90% breeders.

But let's end this here ... i'll register on cornsnakes and have a look :D

[GarField000]

Pretty boy Tank ...... nice Steve.