Other pets (pics and discussions)

[guidofatherof5]

Here's Tank relaxing with my youngest daughter Hailee.
Hailee is 11 and still Tank looks so big next to her.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank_hailee.jpg

[katach]

That is so cute! Tank really thinks he's a dog, doesn't he?

[guidofatherof5]

I know he doesn't think he's a snapping turtle.
He does so well interacting with the family.

[abrownie]

I am most proud of my 2 hedgehogs which I have named Sonic and Knuckles.

They are really great and ones that I originally thought of breeding. Though there are a lot of problems along the way including the female one who is not that indulged with the idea of letting up just like that.

Though they say that it is to be taken slowly and a step at a time.

[mark cope]

Kellogg has just shed Just thought i would post this pic.....
http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/Kellogg%20the%20Corn%20snake/2012_06070005.jpg
As you can see not at all camera shy :)

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful.

It will probably get moved to the "Other pets" thread. ;)
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/garter-snake-lounge/167-other-pets-pics-discussions.html

[kibakiba]

He's quite cute. I love snakie face pictures.

[ProXimuS]

Cool pic. I'm guessing he's a corn(because of your signature), it looks like his tongue is black on the end like garters. Is it?

[kibakiba]

A lot of snake tongues are like that.

[ProXimuS]

Oh cool, I've never seen it till I got my ribbon. I haven't been up-close, and personal with a whole lot of snakes prior to this.

[Invisible Snake]

Cool snake Mark, is it a ghost corn or a charcoal corn?

[katach]

He is very handsome!

[mark cope]

Cool snake Mark, is it a ghost corn or a charcoal corn?
Not sure as far as I know he is an Anery

[Selkielass]

What a lovely curious face.
why Kellog? You from Battle Creek?

[mark cope]

What a lovely curious face.
why Kellog? You from Battle Creek?
I'm from the UK
Kellogg the Cornsnake:)

[ProXimuS]

I'm from the UK
Kellogg the Cornsnake:)


Haha adorable! I didn't get till you wrote it out that way:D

[gazzamann]

thts one nice anery , i have one mysef approx 6foot but looking to sell so i can add to my garter collection :P

[EasternGirl]

I love corns...great pic, Mark! I was so tempted to buy a corn at the expo...the lavender morphs were just gorgeous. I had never seen a lavender snake until the show...they had lavender corn and king morphs...and corn morphs with lavender stripes as well.

[Invisible Snake]

thts one nice anery , i have one mysef approx 6foot but looking to sell so i can add to my garter collection :P

I'm in the same boat as you, I have 2 juvenile cornsnakes I'm trying to sell so I can get more garters lol

[ConcinusMan]

Cool snake Mark, is it a ghost corn or a charcoal corn?

Looks like a hypomelanistic, anerythristic. A.K.A. "ghost"

Seems like the saddles just aren't black enough to be a "charcoal".

Have any of you seen a patternless anery corn? Someone in Olympia showed me one. Wow! It's patternless, and silver.

[mikem]

Picked up a group of these while at Hamburg, PA reptile show. They were just labeled "Ringneck" and the vendor said that they're from out west. I think they're Northwestern ringnecks, Diadophis punctatus occidentalis. Does that sound right to anyone familiar with these? I hope I can get them to eat. Pretty little snakes.

http://i.imgur.com/ZdHLf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KWnEC.jpg

[EasternGirl]

They are pretty. How is their temperament?

[mikem]

They remind me of how Bella was on the way back from the show. Very calm and a bit curious. They don't try to get away when being held.

[guidofatherof5]

They are beautiful.

[Charis]

What do they eat? Seems like it was something different, like maybe bugs? Don't remember now ...

[guidofatherof5]

Diadophis punctatus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diadophis_punctatus)

[katach]

They are very pretty!

[ProXimuS]

Very nice looking additions :)

[mikem]

Thanks everyone! I'm offering worms at the moment. Interested in seeing if they'll eat crickets. I've read that they'll eat insects. I'd like to get them on pinks eventually.

[Light of Dae]

No bugs, but they will eat small lizards like anoles. Worms, Slugs, Pinkie mice.

[Light of Dae]

As promised here are some new pictures, current of my very fat n pregnant kitten Piggy. n Shade
Just chilling out n talking...
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Psst whisper, whisper....
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OMG your mean... does my breath really stink... 'evil little snicker'
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Fine I'm not talking to you any more. What did I say dog?
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[EasternGirl]

Just love your animals Dae! Thanks for the pics. Hey Mike...aren't you going to post pics of the gigantic creepy thing that I did not want in the car with me? :D

[mikem]

Oh, you mean this..
http://i.imgur.com/8kyVg.jpg
Unfortunately he's a mature male. I guess that's why he was so cheap :rolleyes: Oh well, live and learn. He is eating and drinking for me. Don't know how much longer he'll be around though.

My big female hog decided to play dead while cleaning out her cage, so I took advantage of the situation and tried to photograph her fangs. You can only see her right one in this photo. It's in the center of the circle. She had two on her left side. Getting ready to shed one out.
http://i.imgur.com/T3TO3.jpg

Meow.
http://i.imgur.com/sJy9h.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

OMG, that's so cute ^^^

[kibakiba]

The spider, richard? Or the dead hoggie? :D

[ProXimuS]

Wooooa.... I don't know if I'd want that guy in my car either:rolleyes:

[Invisible Snake]

Cool pics Mike. I never knew hogs had fangs, do these fangs produce any venom/toxins?

[mikem]

They're rear fanged, but harmless to humans. Their saliva is mildly toxic.

[Light of Dae]

I'll post pictures after work but my very pregnant kitty Piggy... Popped. lol 6 alive and 1 still born. She is being a great teenage mom!

[Light of Dae]

Oh and I bought two new emperor scorpions as well! ... HEHEhehe they were on sale!!

[ProXimuS]

I'll post pictures after work but my very pregnant kitty Piggy... Popped. lol 6 alive and 1 still born. She is being a great teenage mom!

Ooo its about time! She did look pretty big and those previous pics:p

Can't wait to see them!

[TomM]

I have some sad news and some good news. The bad news is the apartment building I've moved into doesn't allow snakes so I had to get rid of Salisbury Snake (some of you might remember him). The good news is that I have a new, and tiny, companion. I just got a baby common musk turtle at the Hamburg Reptile Show last weekend. "His" name is Booger and he's just awesome! Here's some pics:

Close up of Booger:
http://i.imgur.com/FYxzD.jpg


Size reference (U.S. quarter):
http://i.imgur.com/cDUxL.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

That is a good looking little Booger.

[Invisible Snake]

That's a great looking booger, did you pick him yourself? lol

[guidofatherof5]

That's a great looking booger, did you pick him yourself? lol

Very nicely done:D

[greene]

what kind of turtle is that?

[kibakiba]

A baby common musk turtle, as it says in the post. ;)

[greene]

A baby common musk turtle, as it says in the post. ;)oh sorry i didnt see that

[Light of Dae]

Here they are!! Held tight by momma
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Piggy n her kitten box ie. Kittens stay in mom can get up n out if needed. Put her food n water in there too so she doesn't have to leave much.
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Tired momma.
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Shade loves these little mewing things,everytime they make a noise Shade has to go see if they n mom are ok lol.
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[ProXimuS]

How cuuute! She looks like she's being a good mama:)

I'm glad you've got so many babies to fill the void that Daffy left

[kibakiba]

Can pacific chorus frogs eat spiders? Someone mentioned she fed her frogs spiders... But I just killed one and it's big enough for McCroak to eat... But I don't want to end up hurting him.

[Stefan-A]

Depends on the spider.

[kibakiba]

I have no idea what sort of spider it is... Maybe.. a male giant house spider? He was a little too small for me to assume that... But who knows. Its ugly and brown with big fang things that have little fuzzy.. ball things at the end.

[InsanePirateDragon]

Wait... Fuzzy ball things... Where do you live exactly? The Northwest by chance? What exact state? I sort of have a thing for spiders and its either perhaps a male, or something else I'm more worried about...

[Light of Dae]

This is a birthday gift from a dear friend of ours. A 5year old Tangerine Bearded Dragon
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[katach]

Aww! He's a handsome boy! Happy Birthday!

[katach]

We live in Washington.

[InsanePirateDragon]

Thats what I was wondering, there's a nasty little thing up there called a Hobo that you guys probably know about and when she said fuzzy balls thats what my mind jumped to, its related to the house spider but its bite is like a brown recluse. Its not a native but an introduced species.

Its better to have the house spider than the Hobo, they actually keep away the Hobos.

[kibakiba]

The females are hella huge though, they're the size of my palm. Blehehehehehehehhhhhhhh

[guidofatherof5]

Good looking bearded. It's good to have nice friends.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Those fluffy ball things are called pedipalps and the male spider uses them to to court the female and to tranfer sperm.De spin sex (http://ednieuw.home.xs4all.nl/Spiders/InfoNed/sexs.html)

[guidofatherof5]

From the looks of this photo I would say Lilo is growing nicely here on the Ranch.
She's a little begging machine.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/lilo1.jpg

[Spankenstyne]

Beardies are a lot of fun, you'll have a blast with him

[ProXimuS]

Tippy got her hair done today:D
She got a bath today, and I decided to try out food coloring on her. Now she's got a mohawk done her back, and pink feet (and nails)and chest:cool:

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It looks brighter in person...And I'm noticing her feet don't even look colored in these pictures...But they are, I swear:p

[Mommy2many]

Here is my new addition as of last night:

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This is a Northern Ring Neck Snake, probably a hatchling; as he is only about 5" long. I "saved" him from the neighbor kid by buying him for $15.00.

[ProXimuS]

Very cute:)

[mikem]

Exciting morning! Two crested gecko eggs hatched! This is the first one to come out. The second one popped out while taking these photos. Haven't gotten pics of it yet.

http://i.imgur.com/L9PbK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7lYS1.jpg

[Invisible Snake]

Awesome congrats!

[guidofatherof5]

New life. Always a special time.

[Charis]

Very nice! My girls are being stubborn and I don't even have eggs yet.

[mikem]

They will. Give it time. You will have more cresties than you'll know what to do with!

Panzer has almost gained a pound in two months!

http://i.imgur.com/V3U8V.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Always nice to see Panzer. Nice growth ring.
Snappers nave such a cool face.
How's Panzer's attitude? Getting much touch time?

[mikem]

Panzer has been a pretty good snapper so far. She lets me rub on her shell and legs. Occasionally I will give her a chin rub or whenever her she stretches out her neck, I'll give it a massage. I can tell when she's not in the mood though. She'll push up with either her front or back legs to let me know "not right now". No snapping at me either, but sometimes she will gape her mouth whenever I pick her up to check out the belly. :)

[guidofatherof5]

The good thing is she's giving you any contact. Thanks.

[mikem]

I know. Hopefully she will continue to let me interact with her. Oh, and when I take her out in the yard, she can move!

[guidofatherof5]

Tank only wanders about 10 feet away. Then comes back to me. He's the most unusual turtle I've ever seen.
Most turtles will take off and keep going. I guess Tank likes my company.
No complaint from me.

[mikem]

Yea, I'm sure Panzer would keep going, lol!

[EasternGirl]

Great pics everyone! Love those baby kittens! And the gecko babies too, Mike. Btw...for those of you who don't know...that spider of Mike's is a Goliath Bird Eater....bleeeeechhhh! It was in a container for the car ride...but I kept checking to make sure the darn thing didn't escape! If I ever saw a spider that big in my house...I would move out...immediately. I would just run to the nearest realtor and tell them my house was for sale as is and to call me when it was sold! Rofl....

[mikem]

Someday I'll take amazing photos, lol! Check this out, a free crestie from a local pet store. They know I keep reptiles and was holding her until I came back in to see if I'd take her home. She lost her tail. That's it!
http://i.imgur.com/XeLXx.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

She's in good hands now. How did she lose her tail?

[ProXimuS]

She looks cute with no tail:)

[Light of Dae]

Cute Crestie. Stub butt lol

[mikem]

She's in good hands now. How did she lose her tail?

Thanks Steve! She is extremely flighty.. won't sit still for anything. One of the employees was trying to remove her from the enclosure for cleaning and in the process of trying to catch her, the gecko dropped the tail. It's pretty common with these guys and she'll do just fine without it. :)

[tress29]

that spider of Mike's is a Goliath Bird Eater....bleeeeechhhh!
Eeeewww! My boys creep each other watching You Tube videos of them crawling all over a person. No thanks!

[gazzamann]

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[gazzamann]

my brazilian rainbow boa , my royal(ball) python and anery charcaol corn snake above :p

[guidofatherof5]

Very nice looking trio.

[katach]

Cool!

[ProXimuS]

Awesome! I like your koi tattoo too:)

[gazzamann]

thank you proximus:)

[kerensa]

I just went to get Rosie (my ball python) out for some cuddle time and shes getting ready to shed again. I get so little time with her since she doesn't do well if I handle her in the three days after she eats (she regurgitates) Then there is a day maybe 2 if I'm very lucky that I can bring her out. then she is looking for food again. she seems to shed every 6-8 weeks and although she has no problem shedding and does not get cranky, she also doesn't seem to enjoy being held during that time (like my last ball python did, he liked being held 24/7 no matter what) So I get to really spend time with her only a few days a month. :(

This is why I need several more snakes. I'm so used to bringing Amestine every night (my male ball python, now passed away. age 33) . he would drape around my shoulders or wrap around my arm and just cuddle for hours. I miss him. I realize he was unusually tame and friendly.
*sigh*

need more snake cuddle time. :(

[ProXimuS]

Sorry to hear that:( Hopefully soon you'll have some garters to help out :D

[katach]

Where are you from kerensa? Northwesterns (T.ordinoides) are very sweet and cuddly. If you are close it may be arranged to get one your way.

[kerensa]

I'm in upstate NY these days. Soon I'll have the reptile room ready and will be able to get a nice selection of cuddly babies. the wait just sucks.

[katach]

We'll when your snake room us ready and if I have any available maybe we can do something.

[kerensa]

That should be this September. Not to terribly long to wait...

[mikem]

Took Panzer back outside today for a little exploration and hands on time.
http://i.imgur.com/kFbZe.jpg

Don't fall asleep yet! Get in my lap, silly :p
http://i.imgur.com/2jwVl.jpg

Okay, fine, here I come!
http://i.imgur.com/Tqpu5.jpg

Happy now?
http://i.imgur.com/Q8fCV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7GwnL.jpg

[katach]

Awwww, that's cute!

[ProXimuS]

Hehe those turtles are so funny! They always look grumpy:p She's very cute, nice pics!

[guidofatherof5]

Great photos Mike. Panzer looks awesome. You're doing it right.
Friend not food.:D Panzer should learn the difference.
I love seeing someone else working with these wonderful turtles.

[EasternGirl]

Great pics guys!

[EasternGirl]

I'm terribly sorry to hear about the loss of your beloved python. I look forward to you getting some nice garters. :)

[kerensa]

Thank you.

[mikem]

Thanks everyone! Steve, I think with a little patience and some TLC, Panzer is going to be a big sweetheart... (I hope!) :)

[guidofatherof5]

Mike,

A trick to knowing Panzer will be learning her/his eyes.
You can tell how they are feeling and what they are thinking from their eyes.
There are many different looks to learn. I'm still learning with Tank.

[mikem]

Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely pay more attention to the eyes and try to learn what's going on.. So far, the only look I understand completely is the "feed me" stare, lol!

[guidofatherof5]

The biggest problem in learning is the fact the eyes act independently which doubles they amount of looks they can give you.
It's great when you start figuring them out and can react to how they are feeling instead of simply forcing a situation on them.
They have moody times just like us. Times they want some interaction and times they want to be left alone.
Tank asks for interaction if you leave him alone too long.

[mikem]

Panzer lets me know when she's not in the mood for any touching. She'll lean and push with her shell, so I'll back off. I'll start paying more attention to the eyes and see if I can start picking up on her signals. :)

[mikem]

Good job on giving the ball python 33 years of life! :) Garters each have their own little personalities. They're so much fun to interact with!

[Spankenstyne]

This year's baby big-headed little eating machines. We had 10 born last Monday, one stillborn the next day but no slugs. One even nipped the tip off it's own tail while getting at it's placenta as you can see in the bottom pic. They're all eating well & have calmed down considerably in the last week which has surprised me. Last year's holdback is still a bit cranky, but these all have taken quickly to being handled.


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/bts/btsbabies3june2012.jpg




http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/bts/btsbabies1june2012.jpg


They still haven't shed. I can't wait to see how they look once they have, they usually look so much different after the first couple of sheds.

[kimbosaur]

Congrats! Are those blue tongue skinks?

[ProXimuS]

Chris are those Blue Tongue Skinks? Very cute either way:)

[Spankenstyne]

Yes. Sorry I thought I put it in there haha.. Those are pure Northern Blue Tongue skinks.

[ProXimuS]

Awesome. I had one quite a while back. Not sure what kind she was, but they are really cool:)

[ConcinusMan]

Northwestern Alligator Lizard (Elgaria coerulea principis) Near Olympia, WA. Feisty little violent devils when first captured, but they settle down quickly and make charming companions which tolerate handling very well and are hardy and easy to care for. They do fine on small crickets, spiders, and little or no supplemental heat. They look at you. They check you up and down, often look you right in the eye, and seem to respond well to human speech. They "like" to be talked to and will sit for hours on your arm or lap.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/1z3p1nd.jpg

[-MARWOLAETH-]

They seem like charming little guys,it's a real shame they aren't more available for sail in my country:(They remind me of plated lizards or Berber skink [Eumeces schneideri] in behavior and looks.

[ProXimuS]

He's pretty cool, Richard. Reminds me a little of a Blue Tongue Skink, just more narrowy.

[guidofatherof5]

Little Lilo is doing well. Not spoiled at all.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/lilo10.jpg

[BUSHSNAKE]

Northwestern Alligator Lizard (Elgaria coerulea principis) Near Olympia, WA. Feisty little violent devils when first captured, but they settle down quickly and make charming companions which tolerate handling very well and are hardy and easy to care for. They do fine on small crickets, spiders, and little or no supplemental heat. They look at you. They check you up and down, often look you right in the eye, and seem to respond well to human speech. They "like" to be talked to and will sit for hours on your arm or lap.

http://oi49.tinypic.com/1z3p1nd.jpg
Alligator lizards are the bomb! ive always have heard good things about them. very awesome Richard

[ConcinusMan]

Years ago I thought one had escaped after a couple of years in captivity. I placed the tank, substrate and all (in retrospect I probably should have dumped it) in the garage. About a year later I noticed shed lizard skin in the tank. Yeah, I found the lizard had survived a year in the garage with no food or water. Of course, he was emaciated but otherwise fine and eventually recovered and gained his weight back. Now that's a hardy lizard.

This northwestern subspecies is a live bearer (unlike most alligator lizards) and adapted well to the cool climate. They seem to function just fine at room temperature and can handle 9 mos or more in brumation. They also have a much slower metabolism than any other lizard I've kept. The only thing they can't seem to handle is hot, dry conditions. You do want to keep them cooler than southern alligator lizards (70's is fine) and provide good humidity and damp areas for them to dig in. Fast running spiders are their favorite food.

[Charis]

This is our newest worm. One has been on my want list for a few years and one had been at the top of my husband's want list too. So I'd been looking for one for a few months to get as a present for my husband and finally found one on Sunday. He arrived here today and I was able to surprise my husband with the little worm! So nice to be involved with someone that is as enthusiastic about reptiles as yourself! It's two months old and unsexed. No name right now either. Anyway, isn't this the cutest little worm you've ever seen!?
http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/tricolor%20Hognose/923e8381.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/tricolor%20Hognose/3e2d11d5.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/tricolor%20Hognose/6812f38f.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/tricolor%20Hognose/ffabba57.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/tricolor%20Hognose/1427dd9e.jpg

http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac238/MaidofChainz/tricolor%20Hognose/d08c6cab.jpg

[Invisible Snake]

Beautiful looking worm, fantastic colors. Btw is it a milk snake?

[Charis]

Thanks! It's a tricolor Hognose, L. pulcher is the exact species.

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful.

[Invisible Snake]

Oh wow I never knew hogs came in those colors, I should've known it was a hog by the look of his/her face :cool:

[Spankenstyne]

I'm very jealous. I've been looking for those up here for years. Beautiful hoggie.

[mikem]

Beautiful hog! I love that pattern :cool:

[ProXimuS]

Little Lilo is doing well. Not spoiled at all.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/lilo10.jpg

I'm so sure....:p




Really pretty snake Charis:)

[katach]

That hog is so cute!

[kibakiba]

Lilo looks funny with her little legs sticking out like that! She's so cute. :D

[Steveo]

Tasha (caught mid-yawn while cowering from a few thunderclaps)

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Eva, also not fond of storms

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Josephene, desert/cali king snake ("an accidental breeding" said the guy selling 12 of them...)

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And 2 Sinaloan milks who are afraid of anything that moves

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Edit: Josephene has a good yellow color but it was washed out by the camera flash.

[mikem]

Lovely pets :)

[SnakesInCoconuts]

I know this isn't about a Garter, but at this point I don't know where else to turn. I have a Cornsnake, Maze, who hasn't eaten in 3 months. He stopped eating around springtime. He is extremely active, though the last few days he's been staying in his heated hide. He hasn't lost any substantial weight, though he is a bit slimmer. No signs of RI, anything. I've tried offering him food, but as soon as he gets close to it he just slithers away as fast as he can or completely ignores it. I'm going to try giving him a mouse with the brain exposed, I heard somewhere that snakes go crazy for that?
Again, I know this site is strictly Garters, but I can't find ANY reliable sources and I know some members here have other snakes than just Garters and may know something.
Please help, I'm starting to get concerned for my Mazey.

[guidofatherof5]

Have you tried a monitored live feed?

[Invisible Snake]

I have juvenile corn snakes and braining definitely works, to brain a pinkie/fuzzy I would take a paper clip straightened it out and pierce the skull a couple of times while frozen, then after it has thawed i would squeeze the skull so that some brain ooze would drip out of the skull and then place it in my corns hide. Corns are nocturnal so you should try feeding at night.

[Spankenstyne]

I know this isn't about a Garter, but at this point I don't know where else to turn. I have a Cornsnake, Maze, who hasn't eaten in 3 months. He stopped eating around springtime. He is extremely active, though the last few days he's been staying in his heated hide. He hasn't lost any substantial weight, though he is a bit slimmer. No signs of RI, anything. I've tried offering him food, but as soon as he gets close to it he just slithers away as fast as he can or completely ignores it. I'm going to try giving him a mouse with the brain exposed, I heard somewhere that snakes go crazy for that?
Again, I know this site is strictly Garters, but I can't find ANY reliable sources and I know some members here have other snakes than just Garters and may know something.
Please help, I'm starting to get concerned for my Mazey.

How old is Maze? Sounds to me like he might have his mind on other things (breeding season if he's old enough). As long as he's not losing weight don't get too worried. Braining can work for sure and as "Invisible Snake" said try at night & leave the food in and check in the morning. Some folks insist on watching them eat but some snakes just like a little privacy while they dine.

[EasternGirl]

Don't worry...that is why we have this thread for non-garter pets...so you are actually in the right place for your question. Unfortunately, I don't know much about snakes other than garters...so I hope other members can help you.

Charis...that is a gorgeous hog! I have been wanting a hog...if I find one of those...I'm sold.

Steve...I'm sure no animal in your house is ever spoiled! :D

Love the alligator lizard...it really does look like a little baby gator. Very cool.

[Reptiliancousin]

No-Feet my rough green died last night. He had a bad case of mites and I never noticed it before. Rough greens don't like to be handled so I hardly ever did. He spent much of his time burrowed and I never saw the black bugs of all sizes crawling all over him. We suspect that No-Feet was infested when I got him and that the mites were so tiny or just eggs that I never noticed before. Plus this is the first time ever that I've dealt with snake mites. I do believe that the gray lineage and marking on his body was a sign of the mites since they seemed to favor those spots. I did notice that the grey had been turning black but I never saw the mites! Makes me so mad and hurt that I've lost another snake. And I bought No-Feet from the same company as Bobbie. I'm going to be keeping a very close eye on Raven since he was the closest snake that the mites could travel to next.
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[guidofatherof5]

Sorry to hear about your loss.
Mites are a serious issue. You should treat all your reptiles immediately.
Poor snake.
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/husbandry/9493-provent-mite-usage.html

[guidofatherof5]

Don't wait to see something. Your collection is infested. It's the only safe attitude to take.
Newborn mites cannot be seen. By the time you start finding them in a water dish or on the snake it a serious issue.
Don't wait another day. You must be proactive with this issue.
Pro-Products | Provent-a-Mite (http://www.pro-products.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53&Itemid=59)

[Invisible Snake]

Sorry about your loss and I agree with Steve most likely your other reptiles have mites and must be treated immediately.

[mikem]

Very sorry for your loss. :(

Yes, take care of them immediately! The mites can travel to any and all of your snakes. See in that second picture you posted, you have 3 just on your thumb (there's one on your nail). They can hitch a ride on you and hop off at the next reptile stop.

[EasternGirl]

So sorry to hear of your loss.

[ProXimuS]

Wow, those are pretty extreme. I've never seen mites, and haven't heard much about them until now. If they're anything like fleas, if one animal had them, they all have them(Sounds like they are kinda lke fleas....) It probably will be good to be proactive and treat everyone.


Very sorry to hear of your second loss:(

[ConcinusMan]

Don't wait to see something. Your collection is infested. It's the only safe attitude to take.
Newborn mites cannot be seen. By the time you start finding them in a water dish or on the snake it a serious issue.
Don't wait another day. You must be proactive with this issue.
Pro-Products | Provent-a-Mite (http://www.pro-products.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53&Itemid=59)


Sorry about your loss and I agree with Steve most likely your other reptiles have mites and must be treated immediately.

Listen to them. They're right. Treat all the enclosures and reptiles, and tables and carpet, and.. well, go overboard, do it now, use the stuff Steve suggested (it's practically the only thing that works) and when that's done, do it again! (according to directions of course) If one had them, they all got mites. Get 'em early. Don't wait!

Wouldn't surprise me if the vendors entire collection is infested and he's either in denial, or just doesn't care.

[Dracorex5]

I was curious as to if anyone here has ever had a venomous snake before :D I'm very interested in how care for the most deadly and beautiful works. I'm not sure how I'd care for my snakes without being able to get close to them.... what do you do?

[EasternGirl]

I know Mike has kept them...ssnakess site has an entire forum dedicated to hots. The people there could tell you what is involved in training to handle them, licenses...stuff like that. It is definitely not something to be taken lightly. Some of the most venomous snakes take quite a lot of antivenom to save your life if you are bit. Most hot keepers keep antivenom on site...and most hospitals have antivenom for local venomous snakes...but if you are getting into exotics...sometimes the hospitals don't carry the antivenom. Just something to think about.

General Venomous Forum - sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum (http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-venomous-forum/)

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Here's the Youtube channel of a venomous snake specialist Viperkeeper TV - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/viperkeeper/videos)

[Steveo]

I've never owned one personally (and likely never will), but I worked with a few while in school. The hardest part is never, ever letting your guard down. Because of the way hots have to be handled, they never really get used to it. Most snakes will attempt to run and hide as their primary defense, but hots are more likely to bite as it is more effective.

I just don't see anything cool about them beyond the "look, I have a deadly snake" factor. You can't hold them. Tease-feeding is sometimes necessary and always scary. If I wanted a deadly snake I'd get a big python and carry a knife so I could fight back.

[kerensa]

My father had quite a few when I was growing up.
There is quite a bit of red tape as I recall.
His main reason to keep them was to milk venom.
I recall is was not really "hobby" at all at that point. I remember he became very stressed out about them several times. Don't remember why.

[BUSHSNAKE]

i use to keep venomous before my son was born, thats when i switched to kid friendly garter snakes

[Invisible Snake]

Becareful of venomous snakes being sold as "de-fanged", that might give a novice hobbyist the impression that the snake is no longer venemous, but truth is their fangs always grow back.

[ConcinusMan]

Just rattlesnakes, (Crotalus ruber) and I only kept them for a few weeks and let them go. Hot, but not exactly deadly. Besides that, I've never come across one of those that was aggressive at all. Sure, when first encountered, they'll rattle and bluff strike, but usually they will just try to make a hasty escape. They've all been very calm and reluctant to bite. They tame right down like most wild garter snakes.

http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/images/cruberab.jpg

[ProXimuS]

Dracorex5, random, but I've gotta ask: Is that a snake wearing a cowboy hat on your avatar picture:D

[Invisible Snake]

Dracorex5, random, but I've gotta ask: Is that a snake wearing a cowboy hat on your avatar picture:D

You've never seen a "Western garter" before? lol jk

[mikem]

Yea, I've kept venomous. Cottonmouths are my favorite.

[mikem]

I hadn't planned on getting any hognose eggs this year, but I went ahead and put my normal male in with my normal adult female just to see if anything would happen. I've witnessed one definite lock up between them. Maybe I'll get a clutch after all. I'll keep you guys updated on any progress. :)

[Reptiliancousin]

I was finally able to get into town today and picked up that prevent-a-mite spray. Took me long enough to find it! Called four different pet stores until finally found one that actually had it it stock! I plan on using it immediately. I've decided not to do business with that reptile company. Even though they have the snakes I've been looking for I'm not going to risk it. Both snakes I bought from them are dead now and I'm done. Back to hunting!

[guidofatherof5]

Please read the thread I linked to. The wet spray product is deadly to snakes. Once dry it's safe.
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/husbandry/9493-provent-mite-usage.html

[ssssnakeluvr]

I've had a few venomous, great basin rattlers, eastern massassauga, tiger keelback, and a mamushi (small pit viper in Korea similar to a copperhead). they were fun, gotta be extra careful. hots can have some real awesome coloration. my massassauga was a newborn, had some beautiful blue coloration.

[Reptiliancousin]

Unfortunately I noticed and read your link after I spent hours cleaning and scrubbing all my tanks. I followed the directions on the bottle and websites focused on how to use the spray. I hope I just didn't make a major mistake. On the bottle it said to spray the reptile, but not on the face or vent, and rub it over the animal. That's what I did. Soak the reptile in water since the spray dries out the reptile while killing any mites. My snakes won't sit still for two minutes they're so energetic so I provided a big bowl of water which they eventually went into. I stripped all my tanks and gave each one and their decor. a good soapy scrubbing. Rest assured I rinsed them all thourghly. I didn't see any mites while cleaning but that doesn't mean there aren't any. I just really hope not! It appears that I now have to worry about whether or not I just terminated each of my five.
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[guidofatherof5]

"For direct application to tortoise only. Do not apply directly to snake, lizards or other reptiles"

This is what the label on my spray says unless they have changed things since I bought some.

[Reptiliancousin]

Mine is Reptile Spray by Natural Chemistry. Polly's Pet Shop didn't have the Prevent-A-Mite like they said they did so I bought this stuff. It was pictured with the Prevent-A-Mite bottle on a website I looked at, but they only had the one. It was either this bottle or one by Zoo Med. Natural Chemistry seemed the better option.

[Reptiliancousin]

Reptile Sprays's main thing is to kill mites.

[Invisible Snake]

Mine is Reptile Spray by Natural Chemistry. Polly's Pet Shop didn't have the Prevent-A-Mite like they said they did so I bought this stuff. It was pictured with the Prevent-A-Mite bottle on a website I looked at, but they only had the one. It was either this bottle or one by Zoo Med. Natural Chemistry seemed the better option.

Is this what you bought?

Natural Chemistry Reptile Spray at PETCO (http://www.petco.com/product/109610/Natural-Chemistry-Reptile-Spray.aspx)

[guidofatherof5]

Mine is Reptile Spray by Natural Chemistry. Polly's Pet Shop didn't have the Prevent-A-Mite like they said they did so I bought this stuff. It was pictured with the Prevent-A-Mite bottle on a website I looked at, but they only had the one. It was either this bottle or one by Zoo Med. Natural Chemistry seemed the better option.

I have used that produce before and it didn't work. Provent-A-Mite is a product that will work.
It's good you are not seeing any mites but that product will not eliminate the problem.
I strongly recommend you order some of the other product.

[EasternGirl]

Ugh...I hope that it wasn't the provent-a-mite that you sprayed directly on the snake.

[EasternGirl]

Mike is a "living on the edge" kind of guy...lol. I saw a thing on t.v. that said it takes 23 viles of antivenom to save your limbs from falling off if you get bit by a cottonmouth. Honestly, I'm a thrill seeker myself...if I didn't have a child...I'd keep hots. Someday when I'm like 60 and my son is out of the house...you'll hear about some old crazy snake lady that died because a bunch of venomous snakes got loose and ate her.

[Reptiliancousin]

Is this what you bought?

Natural Chemistry Reptile Spray at PETCO (http://www.petco.com/product/109610/Natural-Chemistry-Reptile-Spray.aspx)

Yes. It doesn't work? Well geez, glad I didn't get the large bottle then. I've got a guy at another pet store working on ordering the Prevent-A-Mite. Since No-Feet was so severely infested I wasn't going to wait on the order. I'm still going to pick it up when he gets the Prevent-A-Mite, but I wanted at least something now! I wasn't going to settle for just a scrub down.

[guidofatherof5]

Yes. It doesn't work? Well geez, glad I didn't get the large bottle then. I've got a guy at another pet store working on ordering the Prevent-A-Mite. Since No-Feet was so severely infested I wasn't going to wait on the order. I'm still going to pick it up when he gets the Prevent-A-Mite, but I wanted at least something now! I wasn't going to settle for just a scrub down.

You did good.

[guidofatherof5]

My 5 kids returned from church camp with an extra mouth to feed. Not sure what it's going to be at this point.
No parents around when it was found on the ground. No nest in sight.
I love a surprise.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/wild_bird.jpg

[Reptiliancousin]

Aw cute! I wish our little birds had survived. A mother red cardinal decided to built her nest in our rose bush. Unforunately the rose bush isn't all that tall and one of our dogs got to the nest. All four baby birds were killed. Somehow our dog got through the fence we put around the bush in an attempt to protect them. Any idea at all what your bird is?

[mark cope]

Hello peeps,
Was giving the vivs a full clean, so went to the pet shop to get some substrates and the like.....and saw this
http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/Jazz%20%20My%20Florida%20Kingsnake/2012_06300002.jpg
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http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/Jazz%20%20My%20Florida%20Kingsnake/2012_06300004.jpg
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http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/Jazz%20%20My%20Florida%20Kingsnake/2012_06300006.jpg
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It's a Florida Kingsnake
Well it's my birthday in a couple of weeks,so wifey got me it as an early present:)
So as you can imagine I'm one happy chappy right now.
The kids have called him Jazz.....after the Transformer
So there you go
(time to change the sig)

[guidofatherof5]

Be sure to wash your hands before handling the garters and definitely after handling the garters.
Feeding response for the king and fear response from the garters.;)

[mikem]

Mark, nice king! Jazz fits him :cool:

Steve, Good luck! Such a cute baby :)

[kimbosaur]

I was going to say he looks more like a Bumblebee! :D

Steve, did you ever end up getting a visit from your other bird baby?

[guidofatherof5]

I was going to say he looks more like a Bumblebee! :D

Steve, did you ever end up getting a visit from your other bird baby?

Nope, some gratitude:D

[ProXimuS]

What a cute baby Steve! I know he's in good hands;)


Nice lookin King Mark! Happy early Birthday:D

[EasternGirl]

Cute bird! And congrats on the new snake Mark! Lovely...and you are fitting in here very nicely with that growing collection...lol.

[guidofatherof5]

Just a couple of Tank.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank143.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank152.jpg

[mikem]

Steve, can Tank submerge his entire shell in the water you provide?

[guidofatherof5]

No but I splash him wet all the time.

[mikem]

Okay, just curious. Panzer can climb out of her current setup but not back in, so I bought one of those 10 gallon rubbermaid roughneck containers and I'm going to notch it so she can get in and out as she wishes. How important is water for the shell, do you know?

[guidofatherof5]

I think it's natural but I don't think necessary.
You might want to put a piece of hose on the bottom of that notch.
That way the plastron is protected when Panzer goes in and out.

[Invisible Snake]

Hey what is the proper way to pick up an unfriendly snapping turtle?

[guidofatherof5]

Not by the tail. It can cause the tail to separate from the spine.

It's not just the mouth you have to worry about but the claws. They are sharp and powerful.
If a towel of some other item is available cover the turtle. This will allow you to pick it up from the side of the shell for the most part.
Reaching right above the head on the top of the shell is a fairly safe location to grab. Then grab with an open hand between the tail and one of the back legs.
This should allow you to lift the turtle and move it somewhere safe. This all dependent on whether the turtle will cooperate to some degree. They are scared and defensive and usually hard to handle.
Hope this helps.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/grab1.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/grab2.jpg

[Dracorex5]

Yes he is! :D thats koda, my ball python. He has a baby cowboy hat my sister made him, and he never really minds wearing it. He can also balance blueberries on his snout

[Dracorex5]

Thank you guys! I plan on starting "hot training" in college with some aggressive non-venoms, as i am interested in rattlesnakes. Im from the west, and i used to walk to a nearby "rattlesnake museum" near my neighborhood. It was basically a guys fantastic herp collection, and i was in love! To think that living near reptiles when i was seven inspired my future obsessions and career path!

[mikem]

I think it's natural but I don't think necessary.
You might want to put a piece of hose on the bottom of that notch.
That way the plastron is protected when Panzer goes in and out.

Will do, thanks! :)

[ProXimuS]

I just came across these pics of my old dog Bertie. She passed in Nov. 2007, but she was my firt doggie! I had her from the age of 6-17(I was....not the dog) She was such a sweet little lap dog...complete opposite of Tippy:p

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The first one is her winking;) It was cool, she would do that alot. And alot of the times she would do it at random "opportune" times, like she was in on what was going on:p

[EasternGirl]

OMG! Emily...she looks just like my Presley!

5885 Sorry about her passing. That is so hard. My lab, Kaela, passed last January. I still get very upset about it.

Kaela...RIP....

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[ProXimuS]

Aww!! They're both very cute! Presley does look alot like her, but he looks like a LH Chihuahua, Bertie was actually a Pomeranian, just a very small one(4 lbs.) That's really cute with him and the kitty:D I'm sorry to hear about Kaela. She looks like a really sweet girl! Very sweet face.

It can be very hard to lose them when we get so attached. But I know that they go to a good place, where nothing bad can happen, and we will be reunited with them again some day. I work at a dog boarding/grooming facility so I know 100000000000000s of dogs and have had to try to get used to hearing of them passing pretty often. It seems like average is about 1 a month(3 this month:(), whether they got sick, old age, etc....It's never too easy though...

[i_heart_sneakie_snakes]

Thought I'd show off a couple of my furry ones :) 58875888Shady is the grey one and she is an Oriental Shorthair. Superman is the kitten and he has extra toes :)

[ProXimuS]

OOO I love Orientals:) Polydactyl cats make me laugh. They look like they're wearing baseball mits:p Nice pics!

[guidofatherof5]

The little bird is doing well and I have no idea what it is. It is a very aggressive eater and bigger then most grackle babies. Eating many worm and pinkies.
It's already able to roost. I've never had a baby bird roost with just pin feathers visible.
Any I.D. help would be great.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/bird11.jpg

[ProXimuS]

He really is a cutie! Glad he's eating and making progress. Any chance he could be a blue jay?
http://www.leonandsondra.com/albums/Garden/fledgling%20blue%20jay%203.JPG

I found that online...It looks a little bigger than yours,with grown up feathers, but similar face? Yours looks bluish...Not too sure..

[Selkielass]

Do you have cow birds in your area? The babies have legs stroñg enough to push other nestmates out and they are verb very aggressive. Eaters. They make pretty good pets too. (Id never release a cowbird to go parasatise more songbirds, if indeed that is what it is.)
my friend raised hers on canned cat food IIRC.

[guidofatherof5]

He really is a cutie! Glad he's eating and making progress. Any chance he could be a blue jay?
http://www.leonandsondra.com/albums/Garden/fledgling blue jay 3.JPG (http://www.leonandsondra.com/albums/Garden/fledgling%20blue%20jay%203.JPG)

I found that online...It looks a little bigger than yours,with grown up feathers, but similar face? Yours looks bluish...Not too sure..

Nope. Not a crow either.

[guidofatherof5]

Do you have cow birds in your area? The babies have legs stroñg enough to push other nestmates out and they are verb very aggressive. Eaters. They make pretty good pets too. (Id never release a cowbird to go parasatise more songbirds, if indeed that is what it is.)
my friend raised hers on canned cat food IIRC.

Beak doesn't look right for a cow bird. Time will tell though.

[ProXimuS]

Aren't cowbirds grackles? Or am I way off?

[kimbosaur]

A Google search brought me to this page (Help Baby Birds - In My Neighbourhood (http://www.helpbabybirds.ca/s/neighbourhood/index.html)) and there's a picture of a baby starling that looks kind of similar? The head looks bigger in proportion to the body though...

http://www.helpbabybirds.ca/img/neighbourhood/starling.jpg


Man...baby birds can be so ugly! :D

[kibakiba]

I think it's a chicken..... :D

[guidofatherof5]

Cowbird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowbird)

Common Grackle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Grackle)

[Stefan-A]

I say we cook him and eat him. That's the only way to find out whether it's a chicken or something else.

I'll fire up the grill.

[ProXimuS]

Hmmm..I don't know why I thought that...:p Thanks Steve! We have lots of Grackles around here. The males are so pretty, they're all shiny in the sun like an oil spot:)

[guidofatherof5]

They are considered a pest species by most.

[ProXimuS]

I know...We also refer to them as "parking lot birds":p I still don't mind them.

[guidofatherof5]

A Google search brought me to this page (Help Baby Birds - In My Neighbourhood (http://www.helpbabybirds.ca/s/neighbourhood/index.html)) and there's a picture of a baby starling that looks kind of similar? The head looks bigger in proportion to the body though...

http://www.helpbabybirds.ca/img/neighbourhood/starling.jpg


Man...baby birds can be so ugly! :D

Not sure if that is it or not. The beak on the bird we have is mostly black with the yellow gape flanges.
I will say the description on that website fits it to a tee. It was living in a broken cinder block of a building.
You might be on to something Kimberly. Thanks.

[kerensa]

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This is Mr.Raticus, the new rat. That is a dog dish he is sitting in. hes incredibly sweet these days. He has calmed right down to being a pet again. I was in the store I got him from today and was told "of course they're afraid of him, he attacked them." which makes me wonder why...
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the third pic is of his new lady friends, they are about 1/2 his size at most, although I'm told they are adult, they look small to me. they all really seem to like each other.

[Steveo]

A Google search brought me to this page (Help Baby Birds - In My Neighbourhood (http://www.helpbabybirds.ca/s/neighbourhood/index.html)) and there's a picture of a baby starling that looks kind of similar? The head looks bigger in proportion to the body though...

http://www.helpbabybirds.ca/img/neighbourhood/starling.jpg


Man...baby birds can be so ugly! :D

I've never really been into birds, but I've always wanted a starling. They have beautiful songs and are very intelligent. I've heard that some can even say a few words.

[mikem]

Good job taking in Mr. Raticus :) Are you planning on breeding them?

[mark cope]

And finally........just arrived by courier to-day my final snake(He He)
http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/Jet%20my%20Mexican%20Black%20Kingsnake/2012_07080001.jpg
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http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/Jet%20my%20Mexican%20Black%20Kingsnake/2012_07080004.jpg
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http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u453/copey1975/Jet%20my%20Mexican%20Black%20Kingsnake/2012_07080008.jpg
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He is a mexican black kingsnake......Jet
He is the last one for me as there is no more room for anymore in Joes room...and once I have built his viv ,all them new sockets I had installed will be taken:)
That and the fact wifeys suspecian has been peaked by the fact I had 5 sets of sockets put in and me and joe now have 5 snakes:D
hobby is very addictive
(time to adjust the sig again)

[kerensa]

Good job taking in Mr. Raticus :) Are you planning on breeding them?

weather I plan it or not, they have their own views.

I can feed my ball python baby rats as easily as mice. She eats 2 adult mice every three days at this point. She could handle rats just as easily. so if I end up with babies and no homes for them I'll do that. I'll simply have to put them down first...

[ProXimuS]

Raticus is very cute, and his girlfriend! Glad he's got a companion now:)

Mark, good lookin snake! I assume you named him for his "jet black" color? Very nice:D

[tress29]

Hey Steveo,
Love your sig: Not that Steve, a different Steve!

[mikem]

This little stubborn eater finally met his match last night! I stuck the head in his mouth and he took care of the rest. :D
http://i.imgur.com/A1JHf.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Keep that king away from those garters and be sure you was your hands after handling either.
Good looking snake Mark and Joe.

[guidofatherof5]

Here's Tank waking up from a nap on the couch. He was in a hurry to get off the couch so I helped him into his water.
Good thing I did. Seconds after hitting the water he dumped a load. It's nice having a potty trained snapping turtle.
He's getting to be such a big boy.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Tank_couch.jpg

[kerensa]

Are snapping turtles friendly as pets? did you have to get him very young?

[guidofatherof5]

Are snapping turtles friendly as pets? did you have to get him very young?

I would have to say no. Tank is an exception to the rules. Snapping turtles are usually wary of humans. They live a solitude life only coming together to mate.
Tank has been with my family for 3.5 years. He was just a bit larger then a silver dollar when we got him.
He's now over 15 lbs and continuing to grow.
He interacts with the family and shows no aggression.
He's a joy to have with us.

[Invisible Snake]

This little stubborn eater finally met his match last night! I stuck the head in his mouth and he took care of the rest. :D
http://i.imgur.com/A1JHf.jpg


Cool! What type of snake is that? Is he eating a baby quail or a chick?

[mikem]

Eunectes murinus, green anaconda. That's a quail.

[kimbosaur]

:eek:

I watched a video of a guy slapping his snake in the face with a pinky until the snake got pissed and tried to bite him. It was...interesting.

[Invisible Snake]

Eunectes murinus, green anaconda. That's a quail.

I was thinking it was an anaconda but wasn't 100% sure, thanks.

[guidofatherof5]

Tank is such a silly boy.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tickle_tank.jpg

[ProXimuS]

Steve, can he get on the couch by himself?

[guidofatherof5]

Steve, can he get on the couch by himself?

Whenever he wants.;)

[mikem]

This little fella doesn't move much!
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[guidofatherof5]

Love those eyes. Who's that Mike?

[ProXimuS]

Cuuuute:D Is he/she from the show?

[mikem]

Emily, I got it back in March from the same show I attended today. Steve, I haven't named it yet.. It'll come to me eventually :)

[guidofatherof5]

Some hatchlings can be pretty shy and sedentary. I think they are very scared little animals. Being so close to the bottom of the food chain.
At that size it is just a happy meal for everything.

[mikem]

Yep, his shell is still soft. I don't think I'll work with him like I am with Panzer :D

[guidofatherof5]

Just an update on the bird. It is doing very well and slamming down the groceries.
My son attempted a release which as you can see didn't go very well.
Sidonius is welcome to stay. (Named by my son)

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/bird31.jpg

[Bear-Cat]

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Our 120 with our 2 red eared sliders, Raiden and Hideo. It's an older pic, but we have had them for 3 years now~
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Our 20 Long. This is a really old picture too, as we have lost some of those guppies in a move and the Crypt (green plants) have grown like weeds.

[kimbosaur]

:eek: That's the same bird?! Any luck on identifying it yet?

[mikem]

Glad the bird is doing well!
Nice aquariums Bear-cat.

[kibakiba]

I believe Steve found that it was a Starling. I think...

[ProXimuS]

Just an update on the bird. It is doing very well and slamming down the groceries.
My son attempted a release which as you can see didn't go very well.
Sidonius is welcome to stay. (Named by my son)

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Is that the one that was a baby-baby?! It's huuuuge!!


Bear-Cat, nice looking aquariums! Might I ask, is Raiden named after Mortal Komabt?:D

[Bear-Cat]

Is that the one that was a baby-baby?! It's huuuuge!!


Bear-Cat, nice looking aquariums! Might I ask, is Raiden named after Mortal Komabt?:D
Raiden's actually named after the Metal Gear Solid character XD
We take great pride in those aquariums.

[ProXimuS]

Man! I've heard of that game...Not familiar with it. I am, however, quite familiar with Mortal Kombat! :cool:

So are Red Eared Sliders able to live in water 24/7?

[Invisible Snake]

Bear-Cat cool looking aquariums, have you had any of those guppies successfully breed and produce offspring?

[Bear-Cat]

Man! I've heard of that game...Not familiar with it. I am, however, quite familiar with Mortal Kombat! :cool:

So are Red Eared Sliders able to live in water 24/7?
Yep. We take them outside for some play-time, but other than that, they have their basking platforms. Generally turtles don't stray too far from their pond (unless they are trying to cross the road lol)


Bear-Cat cool looking aquariums, have you had any of those guppies successfully breed and produce offspring?
Yes actually! The whole reason we bought some guppies was for a breeding project we were doing. They make healthy snacks for the turtles. We had a ratio of 2 males and 3 females. They literally exploded and the mothers refused to eat the babies. We had a bunch of different patterns and colors. We have had 3-4 different litters of guppies all together. Most of them didn't survive the move, and the ones that did died of old age. It was an interesting endeavor and they are certainly pretty, but can be pretty unsightly. They are little poop machines and eat like crazy.

[Invisible Snake]

That's awesome Bear-Cat, I was thinking of starting a small breeding colony of guppies and feed the offspring to my young garters.

Are guppies hard to keep? Are they high maintenance? Do they breed naturally or is their something that needs to be done to get them in the mood? And how many babies does a female have per litter?

Sorry to bombard you with questions :D

[kibakiba]

Guppies are easy to keep. I think they're relatively low maintinance, a member here reccomended that (since I have money troubles) I keep them in a little betta fish bowl and keep it at room temp, change out half the water every day and feed daily. I wouldn't reccomend that, since it's.. well... not really the best, but I know they're easier to keep than some other fish.

[Bear-Cat]

That's awesome Bear-Cat, I was thinking of starting a small breeding colony of guppies and feed the offspring to my young garters.

Are guppies hard to keep? Are they high maintenance? Do they breed naturally or is their something that needs to be done to get them in the mood? And how many babies does a female have per litter?

Sorry to bombard you with questions :D
Not a problem at all!
Guppies are not hard to keep at all. You will want to clean up all the debris they make, but other than that, they are relatively low maintenance. They are actually used as tank starting fish. All you need is one male and one female and they will go at it. Male guppies will try to mate with anything they see.
I really recommend that you only have one or two females and one or two males, otherwise their population will explode. The most we have ever seen a female pop out was 38 in one period. Their gestation period isn't really that long either. It takes about 4 weeks for them to give birth. They can also of course store semen like reptiles. The males may try to eat the fry, but we have never had a problem with the mothers, we kept them well fed.
They are really interesting to watch, the males doing their little derp mating dance, and are really a lot more healthy than rosies or goldies.

[Charis]

The hardest problem I ever had when I'd try to breed guppies was the other guppies! Once had a pregnant female come up to another female that was giving birth and snatch a half born baby right out of the mother and eat it. They aren't hard to keep, any decent tank kit you might buy is probably good enough. They are a bit like the rabbits of the fish world, they breed like crazy and on their own. Just need lots and lots of stuff for the babies to hide in or remove them to a separate tank because they are usually terrible cannibals. That was my problem, too many multiplying tanks because I could never seem to get enough stuff for the babies to hide in long enough to get too big to be dinner. They do have breeding net type things you can get, that go in your tank and you put the pregnant females in to give birth. The babies can stay in there until big enough to be safe, in the same tank but out of reach of the adults. I've never tried one because they don't sell them around here and I gave up on breeding them before sending away for some.

[Bear-Cat]

O_O I'm glad we didn't have a problem with cannibalism. Floating plants make great hiding places for the wee ones.

[kibakiba]

Derp mating dance... I love it! :D

[Bear-Cat]

Derp mating dance... I love it! :D
That's the best I can describe their freaky flail!