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Stefan-A
08-22-2007, 11:19 AM
OK, I'd like a bit of feedback concerning the following list of scientific and common names. Anything missing or incorrect? There's another list in Wikipedia, but I don't trust its accuracy. Neither do I trust the source I used completely, the Rossman et al book. A few have been added afterwards.



1. Thamnophis angustirostris (Longnose Garter Snake)

2. Thamnophis atratus (Pacific Coast Aquatic Garter Snake)
T. a. atratus (Santa Cruz garter snake)
T. a. hydrophilus (Oregon garter snake)
T. a. zaxanthus (Diablo Range garter snake)

3. Thamnophis bogerti (Bogert's Garter Snake)

4. Thamnophis brachystoma (Short-Headed Garter Snake)

5. Thamnophis butleri (Butler's Garter Snake)

6. Thamnophis chrysocephalus (Golden-Headed Garter Snake)

7. Thamnophis conanti (Conant's Garter Snake)

8. Thamnophis couchii (Sierra Garter Snake)

9. Thamnophis cyrtopsis (Black-Necked Garter Snake)
T. c. collaris (Tropical blackneck garter snake)
T. c. cyrtopsis (Western blackneck garter snake)
T. c. ocellatus (Eastern blackneck garter snake)

10. Thamnophis elegans (Western Terrestial Garter Snake)
T. e. elegans (Mountain garter snake)
*T. e. terrestris (Coast garter snake)*
T. e. vagrans (Wandering garter snake)

11. Thamnophis eques (Mexican Garter Snake)
T. e. eques (Mexican garter snake)
T. e. megalops (Northern Mexican garter snake)
T. e. virgatenuis

12. Thamnophis errans (Mexican Wandering Garter Snake)

13. Thamnophis exsul (Exiled Garter Snake)

14. Thamnophis fulvus (Mesoamerican Highlands Garter Snake)

15. Thamnophis gigas (Giant Garter Snake)

16. Thamnophis godmani (Godman's Garter Snake)

17. Thamnophis hammondii (Two-Striped Garter Snake)

18. Thamnophis lineri (Liner's Garter Snake)

19. Thamnophis marcianus (Checkered Garter Snake)
T. m. bovallii
T. m. marcianus
T. m. praeocularis

20. Thamnophis melanogaster (Mexican Black-Bellied Garter Snake)
T. m. canescens (Gray blackbelly garter snake)
T. m. chihuahuaensis (Chihuahuan blackbelly garter snake)
T. m. linearis (Lined blackbelly garter snake)
T. m. melanogaster (Mexican blackbelly garter snake)

21. Thamnophis mendax (Tamaulipan Montane Garter Snake)

22. Thamnophis nigronuchalis (Southern Durango Spotted Garter Snake)

23. Thamnophis ordinoides (Northwestern Garter Snake)

24. Thamnophis postremus (Tepalcatepec Valley Garter Snake)

25. Thamnophis proximus (Western Ribbon Snake)
T. p. alpinus (Chiapas Highland ribbon snake)
T. p. diabolicus (Aridland ribbon snake)
T. p. orarius (Gulf coast ribbon snake)
T. p. proximus (Western ribbon snake)
T. p. rubrilineatus (Redstripe ribbon snake)
T. p. rutiloris (Mexican ribbon snake)

26. Thamnophis pulchrilatus (Yellow-Throated Garter Snake)

27. Thamnophis radix (Great Plains Garter Snake, Plains Garter Snake)

28. Thamnophis rossmani (Rossman's Garter Snake)

29. Thamnophis rufipunctatus (Narrow-Headed Garter Snake)

30. Thamnophis sauritus (Eastern Ribbon Snake)
T. s. nitae (Bluestripe ribbon snake)
T. s. sackenii (Peninsula ribbon snake)
T. s. sauritus (Eastern ribbon snake)
T. s. septentrionalis (Northern ribbon snake)

31. Thamnophis scalaris (Mexican Alpine Blotched Garter Snake, Longtail Alpine Garter Snake)

32. Thamnophis scaliger (Mesa Central Blotched Garter Snake, Short-tail Alpine Garter Snake)

33. Thamnophis sirtalis (Common Garter Snake)
T. s. annectens (Texas garter snake)
T. s. concinnus (Red-spotted garter snake)
T. s. dorsalis (New Mexico garter snake)
T. s. fitchi (Valley garter snake)
T. s. infernalis (California red-sided garter snake)
T. s. pallidulus (Maritime garter snake)
T. s. parietalis (Red-sided garter snake)
T. s. pickeringii (Puget Sound garter snake)
T. s. semifasciatus (Chicago garter snake)
T. s. similis (Blue-striped garter snake)
T. s. sirtalis (Eastern garter snake)
T. s. tetrataenia (San Francisco garter snake)

34. Thamnophis sumichrasti (Sumichrast's Garter Snake)

35. Thamnophis validus (Mexican Pacific Lowlands Garter Snake)
T. v. celaeno
T. v. isabelleae
T. v. thamnophisoides
T. v. validus

Josh
08-22-2007, 11:29 AM
nice work stefan.
now i can spend even more time on google lol

And there are people still out there that think there is only one "garden" snake lol

zooplan
08-22-2007, 01:15 PM
That right Josh and should keep them in a paludarium :D
as a beginner:mad:

Sid
08-22-2007, 01:34 PM
Stefan,
Under the forums care sheets:
Thamnophis atratus zananthus- Diablo Range

Thamnophis rossmani- Rossman's Garter

The above are the only two species not on your list. Couldn't find any errors on any listed. Great job.

Stefan-A
08-22-2007, 01:37 PM
Seems to me that few people keep them long enough to actually learn something about them. That's how we end up with otherwise really experienced snake keepers, who know practically nothing about garter snakes.

Sid,
Rossman's garter is #31. :)

Sid
08-22-2007, 02:04 PM
Seems to me that few people keep them long enough to actually learn something about them. That's how we end up with otherwise really experienced snake keepers, who know practically nothing about garter snakes.

Sid,
Rossman's garter is #31. :)

:( Sorry, don't know how I missed that

ssssnakeluvr
08-22-2007, 07:23 PM
the diablo range garter snake... got a typo.... thamnophis atratus zaxanthus.... :D

Stefan-A
08-22-2007, 08:55 PM
Yeah, I noticed that the second I tried to google for it. :)

ssssnakeluvr
08-22-2007, 09:43 PM
there's a page in the California herps site...cool looking snake..wish I could get a few!!!!!!

Thamnophis
08-24-2007, 08:56 PM
Thamnophis angustirostris - Longnose Garter Snake. Mexico (Federal, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Sonora and Durango).

Thamnophis
08-24-2007, 09:07 PM
Thamnophis bogerti - Bogert´s Garter Snake (?). Mesa del Sur, Oaxaca, exclusive of the Sierra de Juárez.

Thamnophis
08-24-2007, 09:08 PM
Thamnophis lineri - Liner´s Garter Snake (?). Sierra de Juárez portion of the Mesa del Sur, Oaxaca.

Thamnophis
08-24-2007, 09:08 PM
Thamnophis conanti - Conant´s garter Snake (?). the southern interface of the Mesa Central and Sierra Madre Oriental near the Puebla-Veracruz state line.

Stefan-A
08-26-2007, 02:03 AM
Thanks for the additions. :) How new are they?

Thamnophis
08-26-2007, 05:59 PM
I found their descriptions in a paper of 2005.You can find it here:
http://163.238.8.180/~fburbrink/Research/Publications/Thamnophis%20godmani%20MSCompressed.pdf