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vwsrcool
08-22-2007, 10:30 AM
well i was cleaning the garter cages today and figured i would take some pictures while i had the snakes out of there cages and in plastic totes.

pair of red spotted
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/vwsrcool/Picture305.jpg

pair of californian red spotted
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/vwsrcool/Picture299.jpg

1 male albino eastern, 1 female het
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/vwsrcool/Picture293.jpg

1 female eastern, 1 female maritime
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/vwsrcool/Picture290.jpg

2 female albino checkered, 1 male het
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/vwsrcool/Picture285.jpg

if anyone knows all the scientific names please let me know, i know some but not all of them

enigma200316
08-22-2007, 10:52 AM
James or Stefan some one needs your help:rolleyes:

p.s. you could goole it!!!

Stefan-A
08-22-2007, 11:02 AM
Thamnophis sirtalis (Common Garter Snake)
T. s. annectens (Texas garter snake)
T. s. concinnus (Red-spotted garter snake)
T. s. dorsalis (New Mexico garter snake)
T. s. fitchi (Valley garter snake)
T. s. infernalis (California red-sided garter snake)
T. s. pallidulus (Maritime garter snake)
T. s. parietalis (Red-sided garter snake)
T. s. pickeringii (Puget Sound garter snake)
T. s. semifasciatus (Chicago garter snake)
T. s. similis (Blue-striped garter snake)
T. s. sirtalis (Eastern garter snake)
T. s. tetrataenia (San Francisco garter snake)

Thamnophis marcianus (Checkered Garter Snake)

enigma200316
08-22-2007, 11:05 AM
Thanks Stefan I knew one of ya would be able to pop that up there pretty quick.....:D

Stefan-A
08-22-2007, 11:08 AM
I was first going to post my entire list of 31 species, but I decided it would only turn the discussion into a debate over which species and subspecies are recognized and which aren't. :p

On second thought, that might be material for a new thread..

Josh
08-22-2007, 11:09 AM
beautiful snakes.
i like the redspots
cali redsided
and albino eastern
and of course the maritime ;)

enigma200316
08-22-2007, 11:11 AM
yeah I could see that one happening, don't we have page here some where that has a list of the names??

vwsrcool
08-22-2007, 11:15 AM
does the fact that they are either albino or het for albino change they sceintific name?

vwsrcool
08-22-2007, 11:16 AM
stephan could you post the 31 species list?

enigma200316
08-22-2007, 11:16 AM
I don't think so......
well maybe the albino, but I don't think the hets do.....

Stefan-A
08-22-2007, 11:17 AM
It's going to be in another thread, so that we can correct and complete it. :)

No, the morphs don't change the scientific names.

GarterGuy
08-22-2007, 12:20 PM
Yeh, Stephan's right......a colour morph doesn't change the scientific name. Flames, albinos, melanistics, floridas, ect. are all T.s.sirtalis.

drache
08-22-2007, 03:02 PM
those are beautiful snakes

earlier when I looked at that species/sub-species list I was in a state of overwhelm already and it completely knocked me out
It would be nice to have a data base of pics to go with each
can we do something like that in the care-sheets section?
or we could expand upon those threads that show species pics, like the ones James started and everybody could add theirs of the same species/sub-species

Elliot
08-22-2007, 03:05 PM
We actually do have the pics to go with the subspecies in the care sheets section. It needs a lot more work though to complete it.

drache
08-22-2007, 03:06 PM
We actually do have the pics to go with the subspecies in the care sheets section. It needs a lot more work though to complete it.
sorry
I guess I haven't looked recently

Snaky
08-22-2007, 03:33 PM
You have some very nice garters :)

vwsrcool
08-22-2007, 04:42 PM
im glad you all like the pictures

drache
08-22-2007, 05:11 PM
im glad you all like the pictures
very much
thank you

ScimitarX
08-22-2007, 05:28 PM
you do have some very beautiful snakes.:)

adamanteus
08-23-2007, 02:34 PM
Nice snakes, Ben! Can I have them?!!:rolleyes:

Lulu Bennett
08-23-2007, 07:15 PM
i love the red spotted they are beautiful. and the normal checkered too i think i might need to get some of them from the pet store on pay day (yup i actually have a job now lol). only £19 so i might try and get a sub adult pair to keep with the albino...erm... actually probably not the best idea...sorry just using the few braincells working at this time of the morning (2.14am) for logic.

Anyway back to the point, some beautiful pics and snakes you have there. xxx

Elliot
08-23-2007, 07:45 PM
Beautiful snakes Ben, is that female eastern the momma of my baby easterns?

vwsrcool
08-24-2007, 07:33 PM
accualy no she isnt, but the maritime is the mother of yours, i hope to get some flames some blues and some black necks then i think we will have enough

Thamnophis
08-24-2007, 07:41 PM
Very, very beautiful!

GarterGuy
08-25-2007, 10:04 AM
accualy no she isnt, but the maritime is the mother of yours, i hope to get some flames some blues and some black necks then i think we will have enough


You can never have enough.....LOL.:rolleyes: