quick ?

[KashGarter27]

Can you produce a new morph with a golden red sided garter snake

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Are you talking about the goldens that scott felzer used to work with that originated from don belnap?
can you produce a new morph with a golden red sided garter snake

[KashGarter27]

Yes sir

[KashGarter27]

I have a male that i got from scott felzer

[Eddie]

I'm confused

[KashGarter27]

What are you confused about

[d_virginiana]

What genes are you hoping to see expressed in a different way from existing morphs, and what would you want to breed this snake to to achieve that? Just asking if an animal can produce 'new' morphs doesn't really tell us anything specific...

[KashGarter27]

Not really sure what genes im hoping to see i would like to breed it to a albino

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Scott had a golden red sided garter that was black and gold and didn't have any red on it. I think they were born in a litter don produced from a wildcaught female. I don't think they were mass produced so probably didn't get line bred to alot of morphs. Give it a shot and see what happens!
i'm confused

[KashGarter27]

Yea i got the male from scott felzer and it does not show any red

[BUSHSNAKE]

I would think a golden albino would be possible. If the golden trait is reproduceable.

[KashGarter27]

Yea im thinking the same

[KashGarter27]

It would be cool if it happens

[Dan72]

Good luck with your projects, been waiting on some redsided for awhile.

[KashGarter27]

If it goes well ill let you kno

[d_virginiana]

That sounds like a cool project. If it works out I'll... probably be too strapped for cash to buy one of the babies, but I'll still drool over the pictures lol.

[KashGarter27]

If it happens i will keep most of them and if your interested in any serious inquires only

[d_virginiana]

Geez, I was just saying it'd be neat. I don't bug people about buying an animal unless I'm ready to pay them for it...

[KashGarter27]

It wasnt referring to you i was just saying and first i need an albino female to do that project

[Tommytradix]

im talking to 2 different guys about 2 groups of red sideds now. the one group is a definite.the other group has 10+ babies in the deal too. i want to grab both groups. im hoping to produce every parietalis morph next year. ill keeep you guys updated!

[Albert Clark]

I would think a golden albino would be possible. If the golden trait is reproduceable.
Joe, Jeff is working with the goldens and he thinks that they (genetically) will be compatible with many other eastern morphs. He (Jeff) said he was going to be spending a lot of his time proving out the golden gene. I have not heard him refer specifically to a golden albino or golden red sided. But it must be on the road to proving out the gene.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Hey albert, this thread is about the golded redsided (parietalis) not to be confused with the golden eastern. It was black and gold without the red flecks.
joe, jeff is working with the goldens and he thinks that they (genetically) will be compatible with many other eastern morphs. He (jeff) said he was going to be spending a lot of his time proving out the golden gene. I have not heard him refer specifically to a golden albino or golden red sided. But it must be on the road to proving out the gene.

[Tommytradix]

Joe, Jeff is working with the goldens and he thinks that they (genetically) will be compatible with many other eastern morphs. He (Jeff) said he was going to be spending a lot of his time proving out the golden gene. I have not heard him refer specifically to a golden albino or golden red sided. But it must be on the road to proving out the gene.

your in left field albert. bring it back in man haha im sure jeff is going to breed the golden eastern (thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis) to a albino. that is why he is holding back so many to breed it to almost every morph. albinos are almost always the first morph to be bred to a new morph.

the golden red sided (thamnophis sirtalis parietalis) was in scotts collection and im not sure it was proved out or not but there are plenty of morphs to cross it to but the red sideds are scattered. i should have grabbed scotts whole collection knowing he was selling everything but money was tight at the time. even though i could have probaly borrowed it but i didnt think they would be sold off and not be bred. such a shame that he didnt give the breeders a heads up so this didnt happen and they could have had a shot at being in a breeders collection to be bred and continue the morphs production.

[Albert Clark]

Hey albert, this thread is about the golded redsided (parietalis) not to be confused with the golden eastern. It was black and gold without the red flecks.

Well, thanks for the clarification. Didn't see the differentiation in the op. But I do see where you asked for clarification in your post. TY.

[Albert Clark]

your in left field albert. bring it back in man haha im sure jeff is going to breed the golden eastern (thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis) to a albino. that is why he is holding back so many to breed it to almost every morph. albinos are almost always the first morph to be bred to a new morph.

the golden red sided (thamnophis sirtalis parietalis) was in scotts collection and im not sure it was proved out or not but there are plenty of morphs to cross it to but the red sideds are scattered. i should have grabbed scotts whole collection knowing he was selling everything but money was tight at the time. even though i could have probaly borrowed it but i didnt think they would be sold off and not be bred. such a shame that he didnt give the breeders a heads up so this didnt happen and they could have had a shot at being in a breeders collection to be bred and continue the morphs production.

I may have gotten this wrong but I am not in left field. Baseball is not my game Tom. Everybody knows something but nobody knows everything and that includes you Tom. Haha, Lol.

[Tommytradix]

I may have gotten this wrong but I am not in left field. Baseball is not my game Tom. Everybody knows something but nobody knows everything and that includes you Tom. Haha, Lol.
haahaha i hate baseball. i know a lil but not nearly enough to have the title i have on here lol it should say young and dumb ahaa