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snakeman
08-18-2015, 10:46 AM
Haven't posted here in a while. Just aquired a new albino.It is a T - albino. Pretty sure the only one as of right now. Can't wait to get these going

guidofatherof5
08-18-2015, 10:53 AM
Nice to see you on. Beautiful Tham.

Albert Clark
08-18-2015, 11:50 AM
Yeppa, that one will definitely work!

Zdravko092368
08-18-2015, 05:17 PM
Saw this on facebook, really awesome animal and glad you managed to get it.

Dan72
08-18-2015, 06:37 PM
Ditto on ^ statement. We can't wait either.

Eddie
08-18-2015, 07:36 PM
Outstanding!!

BLUESIRTALIS
08-19-2015, 04:13 AM
Wow! That snake is nice!

Jeff B
08-19-2015, 06:44 AM
cool snake Tom, looks like ery/flame bluegrass albino. where did you get it or what is the background story on this guy?

snakeman
08-19-2015, 08:39 AM
It was found in a lady's back yard in Greenwich Ohio.it's v eating and doing well.

BUSHSNAKE
08-19-2015, 04:43 PM
its real nice, cant wait to see how it looks as an adult!!

Eddie
08-19-2015, 07:16 PM
Male or female?

Albert Clark
08-20-2015, 11:09 AM
Must be a escaped pet. Doesn't seem to be a ordinary w/c in a backyard with those genetics huh? Or the offspring of an escaped pet that was gravid?

snakeman
08-20-2015, 12:21 PM
Never popped it. It's wild caught. No albino lines like it

Albert Clark
08-20-2015, 12:51 PM
Don't you think it was someone's pet previously? An escapee or the like?

Rushthezeppelin
08-20-2015, 12:56 PM
Don't you think it was someone's pet previously? An escapee or the like?

Curious but what is your reasoning for it not being wild? Does it just seem like it's been line bred for that red (which is quite vivid for such a little one).

AntTheDestroyer
08-20-2015, 01:07 PM
Assuming it is a wild caught how do you go about producing more if it is not a dominant gene? Do collect other snakes from that area and hope for hets? Or do you breed to one in your collection then breed back to the albino parent? Just curious on the method most use. Cool little guy.

Tommytradix
08-20-2015, 02:35 PM
tom knows easterns. if he says its nothing like any other in the hobby i believe him. great pick up tom cant wait to see what it looks like as an adult

Eddie
08-20-2015, 07:32 PM
Wicked new line!!

snakeman
08-20-2015, 08:05 PM
The albino easterns that are available now are schuetts albinos. Which are T+ albinos. This is a T- albino. The only other T- out there is the bluegrass albino which hasn't been reproduced. This snake was less than a month old when found. I have the lady looking around her yard for more. Lol

Albert Clark
08-20-2015, 08:06 PM
Curious but what is your reasoning for it not being wild? Does it just seem like it's been line bred for that red (which is quite vivid for such a little one).
Just that it seems a specimen with the genetic appearance as such would be atypical for a w/c. Possible, yes. As it was in someone's backyard, we can presume and deduce that can be considered " wild caught".

Albert Clark
08-20-2015, 08:18 PM
The albino easterns that are available now are schuetts albinos. Which are T+ albinos. This is a T- albino. The only other T- out there is the bluegrass albino which hasn't been reproduced. This snake was less than a month old when found. I have the lady looking around her yard for more. Lol
Ok, so the t+ albinos would be the easterns with a bit more of a melanistic appearance and the t- would be the ones appearing lighter due to less to no melanin. I really hope she finds more of them. Congrats!

Dan72
08-20-2015, 09:03 PM
It's a WC, to echo Tommy if anyone would know it's the man currently holding it. At a couple months of age, in my mind, no way this animal was born in a litter captive bred, escaped from said litter and made it into the wild to be found in this ladies yard. I also think and hope time will prove it so. There are more blow your mind never before seen garters out there to be found. Not sure that there are enough herpers out to find them.

Rushthezeppelin
08-20-2015, 09:46 PM
I'm working on it myself. I've got a peice of plywood setup at the edge of a small thicket near my apartment. Hoping I'll get something where it's at, if not i'll move it closer and closer to the nearby creek that Delilah presumably came from. I'm really hoping there are some new checkered morphs waiting to be found in my area.

Albert Clark
08-20-2015, 10:36 PM
Getting ready to head out West in search of blue pugets soon. Washington state, Oregon, California as soon as the fires subside. Happy herpin' to all thamnly members! Maybe get lucky at the upcoming repticons though as plan b. Whte plains n.y. and Long island. Fingers crossed .:)

Tommytradix
08-21-2015, 11:47 AM
Just that it seems a specimen with the genetic appearance as such would be atypical for a w/c. Possible, yes. As it was in someone's backyard, we can presume and deduce that can be considered " wild caught".
so your saying someone is secretly breeding t- albinos and one escaped? lol

Albert Clark
08-21-2015, 05:18 PM
so your saying someone is secretly breeding t- albinos and one escaped? lol

No, that's what you're saying. I said a animal with the phenotype of this particular garter seems atypical to naturally occur in the wild. Is it possible ? Perhaps. Is it possible the animal was a pet? Certainly. I cant monitor the whole state of Pa for who is and who isnt breeding what. That goes for the whole United States also. How do we know who is breeding what? Anything is possible , and that goes for the wild.

Tommytradix
08-21-2015, 05:52 PM
lol if someone was breeding t- albinos im pretty sure people would know

Albert Clark
08-21-2015, 05:56 PM
Ok. Kool.

Tommytradix
08-21-2015, 08:12 PM
this new line might make a whiter snow someday??

Albert Clark
08-25-2015, 08:14 AM
Being that the garter is t- albino that is surely possible.