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GarterSnake
11-24-2014, 05:17 PM
Can I used pelleted IFA chicken feed as substrate? I am nearly out of alfalfa pellets and I need what I have for my rabbits.

Thanks!

These are the ingredients:

Crude Protein(min)...................................... ...........20.0% Lysine (min)............................................. ...............0.80% Methionine (min)............................................. .......0.20% Crude Fat (min)............................................. ............3.0% Crude Fiber (max)............................................. ........5.5% Calcium............(min).........3.5 %...........(max)..........4.5% Phosphorus (min)............................................. ..........0.8% Salt....................(min)..........0.2 %.........(max)..........0.70% Vitamin A (min)............................................. ....2,000 IU/lb Vitamin D (min)............................................. .......600 IU/lb Vitamin E (min)............................................. ............7 IU/lb

guidofatherof5
11-24-2014, 05:37 PM
My first concern would be with the product getting wet and rotting since it is a food.

GarterSnake
11-24-2014, 05:38 PM
Thanks for the reply. I would spot clean it quite a bit, I've heard that concern with rabbit feed, too. My main question, is there anything in the ingredients that would be harmful to snakes?

guidofatherof5
11-24-2014, 05:41 PM
I've never heard of this being used as a substrate.

GarterSnake
11-24-2014, 05:43 PM
Thanks, I hadn't either. I'll stick to the rabbit feed, just to be safe.

slipknot711
11-25-2014, 06:27 AM
can always use paper towels!

d_virginiana
11-25-2014, 03:10 PM
Newspapers are free, and my garters love to hide between the pages. :)

joeysgreen
11-26-2014, 10:31 AM
I agree, I think the concern isn't with what is in the substrate you are using or thinking of using, but what grows on it. Molds and spores don't take long to build up. First and foremost, I wouldn't use either as a substrate. If you are dead-set on using rabbit food for a substrate, spot clean daily, and change entirely at least 2x/week. Monitor closely for ventral scale health and respiratory ailments.

guidofatherof5
11-26-2014, 12:41 PM
I agree, I think the concern isn't with what is in the substrate you are using or thinking of using, but what grows on it. Molds and spores don't take long to build up. First and foremost, I wouldn't use either as a substrate. If you are dead-set on using rabbit food for a substrate, spot clean daily, and change entirely at least 2x/week. Monitor closely for ventral scale health and respiratory ailments.


Good advice.;)

snakegirl909
11-27-2014, 09:08 AM
imo, paper towels are the best. Easy to clean, and the snakes seem to like it. Plus you don't have to worry about any being ingested.

MiddletonMouse
12-19-2014, 11:45 AM
I was going to say paper towels or newspapers too, in saying that I use horse bedding which consists of little cardboard squares. My guys like to burrow in it.

GarterSnake
12-20-2014, 08:02 AM
Thanks guys, I'm switching back to blank newsprint, :)