Garter x Corn???

[CrazyHedgehog]

OK, so a guy called round tonight to buy a dozen mice to start his own breeding for reptile feed and we obviously got talking about snakes.
he tells me a friend of his has bred a corn to a garter??
I start telling him that I don't believe that these species are compatible and that I was pretty sure he was mistaken.
He said, he thought so too, until he saw the offspring... and that the guy used an adult male garter but a small female corn that had only just reached breeding age.

I didn't like to be rude, but was pretty sure that this was bull ****:eek:....however, I am no expert please enlighten me,
am I right -pure Bull (or he was mistaken),
or have I lived in a bubble and never heard of this?

[guidofatherof5]

Your bubble is fine and you are right in calling a B.S. alert.

[jwolfe152]

Don't corns lay eggs? I'm not for sure but I'd still call B.S. on it too

[Eddie]

Complete BS but designer striped corns do look like garters!

[joeysgreen]

I used to quickly dismiss these crazy tails as BS to. Most of them are, but those hybrid fanatics have crossed some pretty crazy stuff; ball pythons and Burmese pythons, kings/corns, anacondas and boa constrictors. This would be the first time that I"ve heard of a oviparous and viviparous cross but I can't say I follow the hybrid scene that closely.

Ia

[CrazyHedgehog]

thanks guys!

[ConcinusMan]

Never happened. Some garter species can't even breed with other garter species let alone an egg laying corn.

[Stefan-A]

I remember reading about a Natrix x Thamnophis cross that ended in dead but clearly fertilized eggs.

"Pics or it didn't happen" still applies.

[CrazyHedgehog]

Yes, I quizzed him later throwing in the species genetic difference, let alone the viviparous vs oviparous , he is adamant.
I wonder if the female had retained sperm.??
he said the offspring did not live the year out.

so.... I have a female corn, coming to breeding age.....has been solitary since a hatch ling....hhhmmm, in the name of science, throw a spare male in with her?

[Eddie]

Waste of time

[joeysgreen]

lol, in the name of science I want to see a better experimental design than that :)

[Jeff B]

Probably reference to the Tessera gene corn snake. When I first saw this new mutation it reminded me of what I would envision a cross between a garter and a corn snake would look like.
https://www.google.com/search?q=tessera+corn+snake&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=GUNwU46hJMaoyATm9ICgCQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=660#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Fr5Xymyu7WPBuM%253A%3B0KvCpTOvU0Bz4M%3Bhttp% 253A%252F%252Fi1259.photobucket.com%252Falbums%252 Fii547%252Fmulticornsnakes%252FDSC_0599-1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.multicorn.info%252F %3B811%3B547

[jwolfe152]

I have always liked corn snakes and i really like those because that's what i thought they would look like too


I wouldn't put those 2 together I'd be worried about the corn eating the garter lol

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Nice looking erythristic cornarter! lol! I love Tessera corns they are one of my favorite corn morphs.
Probably reference to the Tessera gene corn snake. When I first saw this new mutation it reminded me of what I would envision a cross between a garter and a corn snake would look like.
https://www.google.com/search?q=tessera+corn+snake&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=GUNwU46hJMaoyATm9ICgCQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=660#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Fr5Xymyu7WPBuM%253A%3B0KvCpTOvU0Bz4M%3Bhttp% 253A%252F%252Fi1259.photobucket.com%252Falbums%252 Fii547%252Fmulticornsnakes%252FDSC_0599-1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.multicorn.info%252F %3B811%3B547

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Agreed! No way possible!
waste of time