Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[drache]

Happy Thanksgiving this side of the pond
I am thankful for all you guys and this lovely forum and a bunch of other things

[anji1971]

Yes, that's right! It's Thanksgiving in the USA, so have a happy one all you American members!!! We celebrated back in October, but I still use this one as my official Christmas season kickoff date!
Eat lots of turkey and stuffing for me!!

[enigma200316]

thanks everyone and you have a great day also............:D

[Stefan-A]

I won a backpack today. :)

Our school held a fair today, presenting all the different departments, student organizations and such. Well, my old brigade had its own corner where they presented the different military branches. There they had set up this shooting training system / "laser" simulator that you could play with. The one with the best results was supposed to win the backpack. A friend (hunter) had already shot a perfect 100 point score before I (target shooter) gave it a try. Shot a perfect score. Three times.

So, long story short:
1. It's fun to win, especially if it requires skill.
2. I have to get myself one of those training systems, it beats any video game. In fact, I'm comparing different systems right now. ;)

[adamanteus]

Congratulations Mr Stefan! Good shooting.:D

[Lori P]

That's awesome Stefan! Congrats. We shall now call you "The Great Shooting Googler". :-)

[anji1971]

Yes, for someone who's not thankful for anything, you've certainly got a wealth of talent, Stefan!;)

[Stefan-A]

It was too easy. The groups I shot with the simulator were nowhere near what I would demand of myself on a real shooting range.

It's not talent, it's practice. I could teach anyone to shoot better than me in about 10 minutes. :D

edit: yeah, now all I have to do, is pull $3000 out of my *** to get that simulator. Funny, it's almost exactly the sum I expected..

[adamanteus]

Myself, I've had a less than perfect day. I had to sack a guy this morning, then spent the rest of the day tortured by guilt...I mean, it's only a few weeks until Christmas....
So, in my 'deflated' mood I got to thinking about my big sister who died unexpectedly this Spring, she was only 52. She was my life-guide and mentor in my early years and I miss her.
It made me think of this;
"If there's something you want to do, do it now. There are only so many tomorrows".

[Stefan-A]

Sorry to hear that, James. :(

[adamanteus]

Sorry Stefan, I kind of spoiled your moment of glory...the shooting talk was much more fun!:D

[Stefan-A]

Well, there's an old Swedish proverb, "Shared joy is a double joy; shared sorrow is half a sorrow."

Or as a cynic might put it, "Shared joy is half a joy; shared sorrow is a double sorrow." ;)

[adamanteus]

shared sorrow is a double sorrow." ;)

Yeah... Let's all be miserable, rather than just me!:D

[adamanteus]

Time for bed...good night guys.... TFI Friday tomorrow!:D

[Stefan-A]

Same here. Sleep with one eye open, folks. ;)

[Cazador]

Well, there's an old Swedish proverb, "Shared joy is a double joy; shared sorrow is half a sorrow." ;)


What a great saying, Stefan. I'll gladly share the burden with you, James. Feel better soon because better times lie ahead.

Rick

[anji1971]

James, I hope you are having a much better day today. :)

[adamanteus]

Thankyou. Today was a good day. Not least because it's Friday, so I have the weekend to enjoy!

[zooplan]

oh, I´m so fed up with work
and I´m so glad that I won´t see my office until monday
Tomorrow I have to move a house with a friend
Maybe you´ll get some pics of that tomorrow evening:D
I will drive the truck:cool:

[Lori P]

James, sending you big hugs from here. (((((HUGS)))))!!!!!

[Lori P]

Udo, yes, we'll need to see you driving the truck!! Good luck with that. Try not to break your friend's things. lol :-)

[Lulu Bennett]

James, she is still with you! she is probably looking over you thinking how proud of you she is.
You have a nice house? a lovely wife(you must do putting up with your habbit...drinking that is :D)? a beautiful daughter (her niece).
You may miss he but just think of all the good times and all the things she did for you.
I hope this helps you as it helped me.

P.S Stefan. Well done with your perfect shots xxx

[adamanteus]

I can't believe it! I have terminal man-flu (slight cold) yet again. I only just got rid of the last one!:mad:

[anji1971]

Poor you!:(
Probably from when you were all stressed out earlier in the week. Stress lowers your immune system, and a cold just doesn't care if it's cousin's already visited!!
Whenever I go through something upsetting or emotional, I end up sick within a day or two. Hope this one goes away quickly for you!:)

[drache]

oh James
I'm just getting over one myself
hope you get through it fast
you know - Mark Twain had it right

[Lori P]

I can't believe it! I have terminal man-flu (slight cold) yet again. I only just got rid of the last one!:mad:

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! OMG, James, my hubby had that last week (he had a sniffle for a day) and he BARELY survived!!!! Quick, someone run over there with a penicillan shot and a BIG needle.... :D

[adamanteus]

Well guys, it's the weekend! Anyone got anything interesting planned? I'm afraid I'm working tomorrow, but Sunday is all mine!:D

[Stefan-A]

Well guys, it's the weekend! Anyone got anything interesting planned? I'm afraid I'm working tomorrow, but Sunday is all mine!:D
I'm going to spend my weekend reading about sewage treatment, does that count as something interesting? :D

And on Sunday, I'm going to do something garter-related, but more about that, then. ;)

[Cazador]

I'm going to spend my weekend reading about sewage treatment

Ohhh, now you're just showing off. You Fins have all the luck :rolleyes:.

I'm taking my daughters to see the nation's capitol. We're leaving tomorrow morning and will be gone for just over a week. During the trip, my wife will show the girls all the sites during the day, and I'll be going to a contaminants conference. There will be plenty of time for me to get out before and after the conference, though.

Rick

[anji1971]

I usually work on Saturday, but not this week -- YAY!!
I'm going to finish my Christmas shopping and then on Sunday my mom's coming over and we're going to make a bazillion jars of jam! (give or take a few!:D)

[salzar]

its snowed last night and its like 20 degres here,
so going out side is not my cup of tea. I will be spending time doin laundry and tryin to stay warm , nothing like warm cloths right from the dryer!!
oh yea baby!!!
snakes love this too, although the tinny sweaters are hard to fit at first, you know shrinkage!!
heee heee haaaaa yea cabin feaver allready!!
brings on the funnies!!!
bye
michelle

[Elliot]

Well guys, it's the weekend! Anyone got anything interesting planned? I'm afraid I'm working tomorrow, but Sunday is all mine!:D

Well we're doing Christmas decorating, and I'm cleaning cages:rolleyes:. Then tomorrow we're going to ride, and it's already back up to 80 degrees here.

[enigma200316]

Well I've been doing nothing but working on my van this week.......
If anyone remembers I couldn't make to Hamburg to the show because of it.....well I'm fixing the transmission, what fun and the cold wheather sucks.........:eek: a Little brake tonight though, my wife and I are going to dinner.......(awww how nice..............not) its just to get her off my back.....:rolleyes::D


Anji, can I have sum jam? I luv home made jam..................:D

[adamanteus]

Well, I worked this morning. Then I spent the afternoon in bed nursing my man-flu! Tomorrow I hope to do something more interesting.... maybe some grocery shopping or clean the car! My life is so glamorous.:rolleyes:

Anybody finished their Christmas shopping yet? So far, I haven't started!

[Stefan-A]

Haven't started either. I have a couple of good ideas though.
I also had a couple of themes I considered. I considered buying everyone a goat or a chicken in Africa. :D

And in about 12 hours I hope to pick up another garter..

[adamanteus]

And in about 12 hours I hope to pick up another garter..

Great!:D What are you getting, Stefan?

[Stefan-A]

Guess. :D

And I'm typing this sentence, because the forum software doesn't like one-word posts. ;)

[adamanteus]

Is it that tetra you mentioned in an earlier post?

[Stefan-A]

That's the one. :D

[anji1971]

Stefan, that's great!! Hope you get it!:cool:

I just returned from finishing all my Christmas shopping, and we're currently in the beginning stages of a winter storm, so the rest of my weekend will be very happily spent indoors!

Justin, just tell me where to ship that jam!! Blueberry or red currant??:D:D:D

[enigma200316]

Justin, just tell me where to ship that jam!! Blueberry or red currant??:D:D:D


mmmmm.......Blueberry!!!!! If your serious I'll pm you with my address....:)

[Stefan-A]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tetrataenia1.jpg

[adamanteus]

Congratulations, Stefan! And welcome to the Tetra Club!:D

[anji1971]

Stefan, what a beauty!! Congrats!! Although I am extremely envious as well as happy for you!!:D

[Lulu Bennett]

lol as james said 'welcome to the Tetra Club!:D'
its a real beaut you have there stephan

[Stefan-A]

Thanks for the warm welcome to the Tetra club. :D

But damn, it's tiny. About a month older than my vagrans and they must be three times as heavy.

[adamanteus]

damn, it's tiny.

Scary, isn't it? When I first got mine home I could hardly pick them up, they were so small. She'll soon grow though, Stefan!:D
She is very pretty!

[Stefan-A]

No, James. This is beyond scary. :D I can't even imagine how small she must have been at birth. :D

[adamanteus]

My female red-phase pickeringii was even smaller when I got her! Like a little bit of string. She's not much bigger now.:rolleyes:

[enigma200316]

very nice Stefan, you guys are so lucky to have them.........:)

[adamanteus]

you guys are so lucky to have them.........:)

Yes, we are, Justin. But much as I love you, you can't join our Tetra Club!!:p

[enigma200316]

Yes, we are, Justin. But much as I love you, you can't join our Tetra Club!!:p



sure just rub it in James......:eek::D

[Lori P]

Wow, what a gorgeous little snake Stefan!!!! Congrats!! I want one!!:mad::D

[Stefan-A]

sure just rub it in James......:eek::D
Come on, we're not the ones who have garters in their backyard. :D

[enigma200316]

Come on, we're not the ones who have garters in their backyard. :D



that is true Stefan, but the one Garter I really would love to have I can't and you guys can.......damn that sucks..........:(

[adamanteus]

It is the fact that it is unattainable that makes it so desirable. It's not the most handsome Garter Snake.

[enigma200316]

It is the fact that it is unattainable that makes it so desirable. It's not the most handsome Garter Snake.


no, for you that would be the Radix............:rolleyes:

for me I'm not sure which is the most handsome........:confused:

[adamanteus]

Justin, you have T. s. similis..... have you shown us photos of those? If not, will you please?

[enigma200316]

Justin, you have T. s. similis..... have you shown us photos of those? If not, will you please?


I will try to get some up here shortly..............:)

[adamanteus]

I want a couple of similis myself. If I can find them for sale in Europe.

[enigma200316]

I want a couple of similis myself. If I can find them for sale in Europe.


I got mine from Alan...............for a good price too.........:)

[adamanteus]

I got mine from Alan

Alan Francis? They're not on his web site. Maybe he's not breeding them anymore.:confused:

[enigma200316]

Alan Francis? They're not on his web site. Maybe he's not breeding them anymore.:confused:


I'm sorry James I got them from Scott, the mind isn't working right....sorry again, I got all 4 of mine for like $60-$80 usd.......:)

[adamanteus]

Justin, they aren't his T. sirtalis sirtalis Florida Blues are they? Quite different to T. sirtalis similis Blue Stripe.

[adamanteus]

This is a Blue Stripe (similis)

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/natsci/herpetology/fl-guide/bm-tssim01.jpg

This is a Florida Blue (sirtalis)

http://www.gartersnake.co.uk/blue1.jpg

[Lori P]

WOW that blue stripe is awesome!!!! Is there a big difference between them and the pickeringii?

[adamanteus]

Ooops! Didn't see your edit naming Scott Felzer as the source until later..... Guess you do have similis. It would still be nice to see the pictures though!

[enigma200316]

here they are: there are 2 like this and they are the smallest ones, not really any color to them right now, they may color up when they get older.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Similis03.jpg
this one I'm pretty sure is my Female, and has the best color, for some reason it keeps coming out greenish, but she really has nice blue coloring.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/similis021.jpg
this is another pic of her.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Similis01.jpg

[anji1971]

Nice snakes!! And don't feel bad, Justin-- I won't likely be joining the Tetra club anytime soon either!:( In fact, here in Canada it's hard to find a lot of these snakes that everyone else seems to have!

[Stefan-A]

Oooh, the little guy just ate his first pinkie part. :D

[Lori P]

Yaay little fella!! Bon appetite!

[Stefan-A]

Damn, forgot that it's a girl and not a guy. :D She just took another one. I'll have her obese in no time. ;)

[Lori P]

Yaaay little girl!! Bon appetite!!

LOL

[adamanteus]

Great news, Stefan! Told you so!:p

[Odie]

I'll have her obese in no time.
If you keep it up, she will need a snake treadmill ;)
None of that stair stepping stuff :eek:

[adamanteus]

Well, my 'man-flu' became slightly less trivial. I have developed an inner ear infection in both ears! I was up all night in agony, searching for pain relief. I saw the doc this morning, he's put me on antibiotics and off work for a few days. Every cloud has a silver lining!:D

[Lori P]

Owww James, so sorry to hear that! (eh heh... no pun intended) Hope you're feeling better soon!!!!

[enigma200316]

hope you feel better soon James, but a little time away from work usually helps.........:D

[Stefan-A]

Congratulations, James. :D

[anji1971]

Poor James! Ear infections are just awful..........hope you recover soon, although it never hurts to be "sick" a couple extra days when you're getting time off!!:D

[anji1971]

Stefan, I'm glad to hear the baby snake is eating well! It's always so exciting when someone gets a new snake!:)

[adamanteus]

Congratulations, James. :D

Thank you, Stefan.:D The Quack gave me some serious pain relief that has put me on something of a high, so that added to the fact that my balance is all over the place gives a feeling of inebriation that I find quite pleasant! Also, I'll be off work for my birthday... good result all round!

[enigma200316]

good-nite you all talk to ya tomorrow..............................:)

[adamanteus]

So, according to GMT it's only three hours until my birthday. I can only guess that the forum is so quiet this evening because you are all out there purchasing greetings cards and extravagant gifts... you really shouldn't!:o

[enigma200316]

So, according to GMT it's only three hours until my birthday. I can only guess that the forum is so quiet this evening because you are all out there purchasing greetings cards and extravagant gifts... you really shouldn't!:o


wow James is really funny when he's sick....................:rolleyes::D

[Lori P]

So, according to GMT it's only three hours until my birthday. I can only guess that the forum is so quiet this evening because you are all out there purchasing greetings cards and extravagant gifts... you really shouldn't!:o

Well then, no worries James! We didn't! :D

[Stefan-A]

wow James is really funny when he's sick....................:rolleyes::D
Yeah, he should be sick more often. ;) :D

[adamanteus]

I'm delighted to hear that my suffering has given you all such pleasure. Like I said... every cloud has a silver lining!

[anji1971]

Oh it's okay, James. We laugh at you just as much when you're well too! ;)

[adamanteus]

Right guys, I'm off to bed. Hoping for a birthday treat..... (cocoa and a pedicure:rolleyes:). Night.

[Stefan-A]

It's time for me to do the same. cya.

[enigma200316]

later....talk to ya tommorrow Stefan, James..........:D

[anji1971]

Well, everyone's taken off to bed, and I'm just wrapping up my day now! It's been a rather productive one too. Started my Christmas baking, ended up with 18 dozen shortbread cookies! Good start.......
Oh, and Stitch had his "first" shed, at least since I've had him. I tried to get some pictures but, as Dekay's are prone to do, he just kept burrowing into the aspen until he was all done, and then he hightailed it right into his hide, with a "NO PICS FOR YOU!!" look on his little face!!:p

[drache]

hey
good news over here
my concinnus had pinks bobbing in water with DEAD minnows yesterday
nothing live in there whatsoever
I feel like I pulled one on her
she's still not friendly, but she's no longer got me running to the petshop
now all I need to do is reduce the water level and she'll eat not only what, but even how I want her to eat
oh, I am so devious

[enigma200316]

glad to here it Rhea, keep up the good (devious) work..........:D

[Morph]

wow, this thread is still alive.

i was wondering if this thread was going to get pnned but theres not really any point. its always right at the top of the list anyway lol

[adamanteus]

Hey Morph... you must have read my mind... I just pinned it!

[Lulu Bennett]

I just pinned it!

ey? whats that? how do you do that?

[adamanteus]

how do you do that?

You can't do it... I have to use my moderator super powers. It makes selected threads, such as this one, always stay at the top of the list in their particular forum. It makes them "a sticky".

[drache]

what's pinning?

[Lulu Bennett]

You can't do it... I have to use my moderator super powers. It makes selected threads, such as this one, always stay at the top of the list in their particular forum. It makes them "a sticky".

ahhhh, i got you. see it won't affect me as i only use the unread posts link when i am online.
Thanks for that though James. My thread will live on!!! mwahhhahhhhhh!

[adamanteus]

If you look in the 'Garter Snake Lounge' you will find this thread and Stefans' Nature Photography thread are always at the top, and labelled as "sticky". So you guys can always find your favourite threads.:)

[anji1971]

Ahhh, James, how would we all survive without you?:rolleyes:

[Charlet_2007]

wow 185 pages lol thats alot and 1848 post (well 1849 not lol) man keep it going strong:D:D:D:D

[adamanteus]

Success.


At age 4 success is . . . . Not piddling in your pants.
At age 12 success is . . . Having friends.
At age 17 success is . . . Having a drivers license.
At age 35 success is . . . Having money.
At age 50 success is . . . Having money.
At age 70 success is . . . Having a drivers license.
At age 75 success is . . . Having friends.
At age 80 success is . . . Not piddling in your pants.

[Lulu Bennett]

hi, im bored!!
just finished work now and it is 12.30am i have to stop up for the BIG fight in vagas at four. then i am at work tomorrow at midday til midnight. not even started the long run and i am shattered! :(

[enigma200316]

hi, im bored!!
just finished work now and it is 12.30am i have to stop up for the BIG fight in vagas at four. then i am at work tomorrow at midday til midnight. not even started the long run and i am shattered! :(


you talking about the Hatton/mayweather fight?????????

[Lulu Bennett]

you talking about the Hatton/mayweather fight?????????

lol justin, yup!!
Why? will you be watching it?

[enigma200316]

lol justin, yup!!
Why? will you be watching it?


no, I can't I have other things I have to do, but I hope Hatton kicks is ***.............:D

[Lulu Bennett]

no, I can't I have other things I have to do, but I hope Hatton kicks is ***.............:D

Justin, you are suporting Hatton (an english bloke) over Mayweather (the cocky twit but also an American)
Hahahahahaha good lad! lol

I am not a big boxing fan but after watching the weigh in yesterday and how 'up his own jaxie' he is, i really want Hatton to wipe that cocky a*s smile off his face.

[enigma200316]

Justin, you are suporting Hatton (an english bloke) over Mayweather (the cocky twit but also an American)
Hahahahahaha good lad! lol

I am not a big boxing fan but after watching the weigh in yesterday and how 'up his own jaxie' he is, i really want Hatton to wipe that cocky a*s smile off his face.


I think Hatton is an excellent fighter and very good at what he does,and I don't like pretty boy floyd..............:D

[adamanteus]

I'm back to work tomorrow guys.:(
I enjoyed my week off, even though I've been ill, in pain and deaf as a stone! Oh well, all good infections must come to an end!:D

[zooplan]

I had a hard weekend!
On Strurday the trip to Hamm and visits to my little brother and the mother of my wife.
Yesterday I had my first kind of Christmas celebration...
swimming:D
now I´m so tired but no chance to rest in the office:p

[Lulu Bennett]

Hatton lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
not impressed at all!

[enigma200316]

Hatton lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
not impressed at all!



yeah I know, it looked like he forgot how to fight, or something......:(
oh well I still like him and I think he'll come back better from this.........:)

[adamanteus]

Well, there have been lots of members on-line this evening, but very little going on! Maybe we're all waiting to hear news from Lori. I know I am. Let's all just keep our fingers crossed for Lori and Jewel, and hope for a happy outcome.

Night guys, catch you all tomorrow. X

[Lulu Bennett]

i took sissle and kia out of brumation early and fed them about 3/4 days later. sissle didn't eat but Kia took one fuzzy. i have just looked in the viv now and found a big mess (only clesned the viv 3/4hrs ago:() but there was quite alot of undigested fur. is this ok?

[anji1971]

Well, there have been lots of members on-line this evening, but very little going on! Maybe we're all waiting to hear news from Lori....


James, everytime I log on I look to see if she's been on line to tell us anything, and she hasn't, so I am also waiting and worrying.......
Lori, we're thinking of you--best wishes!

[GarterGirl]

Hi guys.
Sorry I've been off so long.:o

[Stefan-A]

Well, welcome back then. :)

[GarterGirl]

you know I'll never leave for good! :rolleyes:

[adamanteus]

I just read an article on the dangers of heavy drinking.... scared the you-know-what out of me!
So that's it now, I've decided.... no more reading!:D

[GarterGirl]

no more reading?:eek:
how can you say that?
how can you even live without reading?:confused:

[Stefan-A]

I'm bored. Somebody say something funny.

[adamanteus]

Stefan, you're the Humorbot.... YOU say something funny!:D

[Stefan-A]

Humorbot has run out of humor.

[adamanteus]

Impossible! You just require the correct trigger.;)

[adamanteus]

I saw your picture on Lulu's 'Facebook' page.... That made me laugh!

[Stefan-A]

Did it now.

[adamanteus]

Did it now.

No. Just trying to 'trigger' you.:)

If you want to try something that will make you laugh, try singing 'Once in Royal David's City', only start off a full octave higher than your normal singing voice. Then see what happens when you get to the line 'Mary was that mother mild'!:D But you have to do it loud...that's the rules.

[Stefan-A]

Don't know that song.

[adamanteus]

Well that's a shame. It's hilarious when it's sang too high!

[Lulu Bennett]

Welcome to the world of facebook James :D

Have i ever told you two... You need to get out more lol

[Stefan-A]

He still needs to sign up. ;)

[adamanteus]

To be honest, I don't think I'll be building a 'Facebook' page. I don't know what it's for..... my friends already know about me, and I don't feel the need to show the rest of the world who I am.

[Lulu Bennett]

He still needs to sign up. ;)

he is signed up, aint you James, He just wont do anything with it!

[anji1971]

Hey everybody,
I'm back after a couple days off. Just finished an epic baking session.............oodles and oodles of cookies, and three pumpkin pies. Sliced off a nice chunk of my thumb doing the pies, and learned a few things:
1. Baking can be very tiring.
2. Thumbs are a very important appendage-- never take them for granted lest you slice up one and can't use it for a day or two!!! Makes life rather difficult...:D
3. This forum is highly addictive....two days off and I almost went completely nuts. I really missed you people!! And man, do the posts ever add up quickly!:eek:

[drache]

thanks Anji

any mention of social networking sites alway makes me feel slightly unwell


To be honest, I don't think I'll be building a 'Facebook' page. I don't know what it's for.....

I'm with you on that, James
also
every facebook (or whatever that other site is) page I've ever looked at (and there's only been less than a handful), has been overwhelming
I'm not sure that I want to know this much about a person all at once - I prefer getting to know them
the people who's pages I've seen I don't think I would have ever become friends with if that had been my first exposure
it's kind of like people who wear too much perfume - instead of being subtly enticing, it's like an assault and not terribly inviting

like when Anji talks about her baking woes, I feel at home - it's solid
I totally get the picture

[anji1971]

[quote=drache;36867]
every facebook (or whatever that other site is) page I've ever looked at (and there's only been less than a handful), has been overwhelming
I'm not sure that I want to know this much about a person all at once....


I tend to feel the same way about facebook-- it's like people are sharing just WAY too much information right off the bat. I know some of them have been building their pages for a while, but that's just how it feels to me. The other reason i've never had any inclination to join is that I'm one who feels that the past is the past, and if I haven't kept in touch with or found someone by now, it's most likely that I don't want to for whatever reason. And there are a few people I've crossed paths with in life that I'd rather never "find" me!!:D

[Stefan-A]

Of maybe a couple hundred people I know, that have Facebook accounts, I've only accepted a few as "friends" there. You still have the option of blocking strangers from seeing your info and you can choose your friends there. I don't think any of my old "enemies" would be interested in sending me any friend requests anyway.

Can't say that it's a useful site in any way, besides for finding old friends, but it's okay if you have time to waste. ;)

[anji1971]

Well, even if you can choose who you contact and who you list as friends, it doesn't stop people from giving information about you. I had an interesting phone call from someone from about 20 years in my past, and I wasn't too impressed to find out that all they did was ask around on facebook, and someone just happened to let slip where I work. And it was not someone I would have put on my 'friend' list!!:mad:

[Lori P]

Anji, good job on the baking, but next time, remember: around here we require pinkies in our recipes, not thumbs. :D

[anji1971]

Haa-ha!! I'll do my best to chop up the PINKIE next time!:D

[Josh]

hey all hows it goin?

[Stefan-A]

Just peachy, sleep deprivation is fun.

[Josh]

lol
same ol stefan

[Lori P]

Hi Josh. Just saw your post about your snakes not eating yet. I don't know enough to advise you but wanted to wish you very good luck with them!

[Stefan-A]

About four hours of sleep every night, interrupted every time I'm in REM sleep (1½-2h intervals). Crappy bed makes it worse.

Lots of fun. Really healthy, too.

[Sputnik]

I think i'll have an early night tonight...maybe 1am,lol? I've been going to bed around 4.30 some nights over the past week or so. Just needed some time without the children around.

This evening has been tough. My son's rabbit is dying and we sat with her for ages, saying good-bye. My son has great difficulty dealing with death, it sends him into bouts of depression so I asked him if he wanted to tell "Midnight" what a lovely rabbit she was and we both then sat there, in tears, stroking her soft ears, and thanking her for living so long, being a great mum to 6 babies, coming up to us and wanting to be picked up, etc. It was of course terribly sad, but also lovely in a strange kind of way. Eventually my son told her it was ok to go to sleep now, gave her a last stroke on her beautiful black ears and said good bye, before sobbingly grabbing my hand and walking upstairs to bed. I really hope the way we dealt with it, is going to help him to cope with it better.

[Lori P]

Aw, I'm so sorry about your bunny... she sounds like such a sweetie. It seems like you handled it very well, and helped your son through the process. And you gave her such respect and dignity. Lots of hugs from here.

[Sputnik]

Thanks Lori, I do hope so.

[Stefan-A]

Oh crap, I'm definitely addicted. :D A guy living pretty close to my home town is selling what appears to be two adult female plains garters and I'm trying real hard not to consider taking them off his hands. I have enough snakes already, right? ;)

[enigma200316]

Oh crap, I'm definitely addicted. :D A guy living pretty close to my home town is selling what appears to be two adult female plains garters and I'm trying real hard not to consider taking them off his hands. I have enough snakes already, right? ;)


no, theres never enough.......lol, I think you should buy them Stefan..:D

[enigma200316]

on a Sader note, my Ringneck passed, and she had started eating very well too.......:( the only thing I can think of is maybe I didn't have the viv. wet enough and there was some sort of dehydration thing, but I didn't see any signs of this coming.........

[Stefan-A]

no, theres never enough.......lol, I think you should buy them Stefan..:D
I want to buy them, but I know better than that. :D I'm just glad that I'm not an impulsive buyer. :)

Sorry about your ringneck there, Justin.

[enigma200316]

I want to buy them, but I know better than that. :D I'm just glad that I'm not an impulsive buyer. :)

Sorry about your ringneck there, Justin.



bye them, bye them, bye them....................I'm not much help am I...:D

[Stefan-A]

Nah, we don't needs them. Filthy radixes. ;)

[enigma200316]

Nah, we don't needs them. Filthy radixes. ;)


Stefan, don't let James here you say that...........;)

[Stefan-A]

He's a big boy, I'm sure he can take it. ;)

[Lulu Bennett]

Stefan- you can never have to many snakes. :D

Justin- i am sooo saddened to hear about your ringneck. they are beautiful animals. i am sure that yuo gave it the best care possible. :(

[adamanteus]

Stefan, you should buy them. I'm sure they would soon become your favourite... and if not, you could give them to me!:D

Sorry about your Ringneck, Justin.

[reptileparadise]

Sorry about your ringneck justin...

Stefan...Buy them! ...

[Stefan-A]

Yes, I can have too many snakes. :) I wasn't even planning on getting a tetra when I found it. ;) And I don't have to own every garter in the country.

I'll wait until I have a big enough apartment. THEN I'll go nuts with my snake hobby. :D

[reptileparadise]

yeah...right...I'd say, have another look at the pictures...And another...and maybe one more time just before you got to sleep...That might help :)

[anji1971]

Justin, sorry to hear about the loss of your ringneck. :(
Stefan, I think you'd better get those "filthy radixes" or you're never going to hear the end of it! Besides, everyone is right-- you can't have too many snakes! Just read through the "herp addict" thread again if you don't believe us!:D

[Stefan-A]

No, I'm going to be realistic about it this time. There will be other opportunities.

[adamanteus]

How can you resist?:confused:

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//539/medium/Orange_stripe.jpg

[reptileparadise]

indeed...How???
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/oranjeradix1Small.jpg

[Stefan-A]

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/extra/yarlyradx.jpg

[reptileparadise]

hahaha...I know its not funny...I'm experiencing the same 'problem'...but still
Nice picture :)

[anji1971]

Stefan, that was hilarious!!! I get the point--won't bug you about it anymore!:D:D

[Stefan-A]

I'm just trying to prevent that problem. :D Space is the real problem. I've probably said it before, but I'm forced to house some of my snakes (actually it's just one of my snakes now) at my parents' house at the moment.

[anji1971]

I can understand both space and money problems. I want to make more room for snakes, but we can't afford the renovations to the basement to make a reptile room. Or a bigger house........:(

[adamanteus]

Hey! What's Stefan doing with my wallet?:mad:

[Stefan-A]

I need to get a bigger apartment and to get that, I need steady income and to get that, I need to finish my studies. :) I'm just glad that my lifestyle doesn't require me to own the best or the newest electronic gadgets or other stuff.

[salzar]

oh no james thats my hubbies wallet after christmas shopping !!!
ha!!!

[Lori P]

Justin, I'm so sorry you lost your ringneck! I know you took the best care of him. Such a bummer.

[drache]

Justin
so sorry about the loss of your ring neck snake

Stefan
you're a better man than I
I bow to you
and I have to go change some water bowls now

[enigma200316]

thanks guys, its the chance you take with them, because there so fussy when it comes to getting them to eat and stuff.........maybe again one day I'll have another........thanks again you all...........:)




and Stefan that was just to damn funny...................:D

[drache]

thanks guys, its the chance you take with them, because there so fussy when it comes to getting them to eat and stuff.........maybe again one day I'll have another........thanks again you all...........:)

yeah, I know what you mean
I want another some day, because they're so lovely
not now though

[enigma200316]

Here's the only pic I could get of one of the similis I have that the blue color came out on atleast some what anyway..........:)

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Picture_1632.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Is this closer?

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/extra/Picture_1632_mod.jpg

[Lori P]

Oooh nice Stefan. That first pic hurt my eyes. LOL Nice snake Justin!!!! Er-- well-- nice top of a snake's head, Justin!!:D

[enigma200316]

yeah better, thanks Stefan.......;)


they all like to hang out under the rocks, and they are not really into getting the pics taken.........lol:D

[zooplan]

Christmas hollyday!!!
had a hard week on work:(
But now I´ve got time untill January second to share it with you:D

[adamanteus]

Same with me, Udo... no more work until January 2nd. I wonder what Santa will bring me!:D

[Lori P]

Guys, I saw the most ENDEARING thing today. You know how I have this spider aversion, right? Well, the pet shop I went to to get the pinkies (you know, the $50 pinkies) is specifically a reptile/exotic store. And there were some tarantulas. Well, I went to look because I'm trying to get over my spider thing.

In this one big tank there was an UPSIDE DOWN tarantula, and I thought, oh no-- I have to go tell the guy the spider is dead. I bent over to look, and yep, he was flat upside down, legs up in the air. As I pulled back I noticed a post it note on the front of the tank:

"No, he's not dead-- he's shedding!"

Shedding!!! Upside down, looking dead!!! What's up with that???? He never moved or so much as twitched... and for some reason I just found it sweet. Poor spider, is shedding that traumatic???

[Stefan-A]

Yeah, that's the way they do it. :)

When the legs are bent underneath the body, THEN you know it's dead.

[adamanteus]

Poor spider, is shedding that traumatic???

Actually, Lori, yes it is. Spiders often die during ecdysis. Particularly in captivity.

[Lori P]

Oh my gosh. :-( Why??????

[adamanteus]

In the wild through predation, in captivity through incorrect humidity.

[Lori P]

This page has a cool pic-- look, this one spun a kind of cocoon thing.

Tarantula Molting (http://www.eightlegs.org/general/molt.html)

[adamanteus]

Nice pic. In captivity, a lot of moulting Tarantulas get eaten by their cricket 'prey' too!

[Lori P]

This one has some good pics too.

Molting FAQ (http://www.beccastarantulas.com/tarantulas/husbandry/molting.htm)

Wow. Ok, well, I have more of an appreciation for tarantulas now. But I still don't want to live with one. LOL

[tikichick]

I recently got into tarantulas, but I never had an aversion to spiders. I was at a local pet store and they had slings (spiderlings for short) for .99 cents... how could I resist?! I started with the one, got another at an expo, then another from a friend, so I'm up to 3. My fave part about these guys is the type of vivariums you can set up for them; some are stunning. Mine are too small yet, so they're in little containers still. But I have plans, big big plans, lol.

Here's a page (http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=100459&page=9) with awesome shots of molting.

And here's my guys...

This is the .99 Honduran Curly Hair sling. It'll be dark brown with long wooly hairs when it grows up.
http://www.lakehousemedia.com/hidden/herps/tarantula/growth18oct1dec.jpg

This is the one from the expo, a Costa Rican Tiger Rump sling fixing to molt. One day, it'll have red and black stripes on it's rump and the legs will be black.
http://www.lakehousemedia.com/hidden/herps/tiger/1stday12-1-07.jpg

This is the one I got from a friend. I don't think he had kept the humidity up because I brought it home and misted it and the very next day it shed. This is a Chaco Gold Stripe. He's the biggest one I have, and still smaller than a dime.
http://www.lakehousemedia.com/hidden/herps/golden/12-16-07%20closeup.jpg

[adamanteus]

I had a Trinidad Chevron once, but it seized me and dragged me all around the house.
I don't do tarantulas anymore!

[anji1971]

Okay, I looked at all the pics on those links, hoping that I too would find something "sweet" about them.
Nope, they're still just big hairy spiders. (shudder!):eek:
It is interesting info about them though. Just can't get past the appearance thing.

[tikichick]

LMAO!! I wish you had video of that! :D

[tikichick]

They kinda remind me of ewoks, lol, so I think they're cute :D

[anji1971]

Cute. Like Ewoks.
Hmmm, I'll try to keep that in mind! Maybe I can convince myself.
Did the Ewoks have giant fangs????:D

[adamanteus]

I'd rather have an Ewok than another Chevron. Come to think of it, I'd rather have Jabba the Hut than another Chevron!:eek:

[drache]

I'm not hugely into them, but Mikhaila wanted one, so we have a pink-toe named Marieke
if you like the feeling of snake tongue, you'd like tarantula walking on you, because it feels like eight snake tongues - until they get upset

[Lori P]

.... and then they KILL YOU!!!! lol

[drache]

.... and then they KILL YOU!!!! lol
no no no
then it feels like rug burn

[Stefan-A]

How many have been killed by tarantulas throughout history? Zero? :)

[Lori P]

I'd be the first.

"Local blonde girl dies after tarantula attack... she would have survived the bite but in a panic, ran face first into the sliding glass doors while howling madly about monsters attacking"

[Lori P]

Oh! Did any of you see the garter snake on Kingsnake a few days ago that ate PELLETS?? They had pics, he would pick them out of the water. I can't imagine how they got him on pelleted food??

[enigma200316]

I'd be the first.

"Local blonde girl dies after tarantula attack... she would have survived the bite but in a panic, ran face first into the sliding glass doors while howling madly about monsters attacking"


to funny Lori................ROTFLMAO:D

[tikichick]

LMAO!!!!! Lori, you're a nut :D

[anji1971]

Yes, but it's the Lori's of the world that keep us all laughing every day! We need more of her kind of nuts in the world!:):)

[tikichick]

Most definitely! :)

[zooplan]

Oh! Did any of you see the garter snake on Kingsnake a few days ago that ate PELLETS?? They had pics, he would pick them out of the water. I can't imagine how they got him on pelleted food??
Mix them with fish first!
A friend of mine is doing this in his outdoor enclosure very successfully for several years.

[drache]

what kind of pellets are we talking about here?

[GarterGirl]

Drache is sewing a goose's butt!

[Lori P]

ROFL Mikhaila!!!!!!!! Thank you for that mental image!!!! We really need to get your mom some new hobbies, you know??!!!!!

[Lori P]

Mix them with fish first!
A friend of mine is doing this in his outdoor enclosure very successfully for several years.


what kind of pellets are we talking about here?

Udo, that's really interesting. It seems like there would be a benefit to feeding pellets, if only occasionally, for the extra vitamins and minerals. I wouldn't want to feed a totally processed diet, as I think they would miss out on the live enzymes, good bacteria, and "whole food" advantage of live fish and even f/t pinkies. But an occasional couple of pellets would probably be a good thing.

Rhea, I am trying to remeber the name of the pellets... they're the kind tutles eat... I keep wanting to say Reptomin but not sure if that's correct. I'll see if I can find the ad and post it.

[adamanteus]

Well, I guess Christmas is over now. As some of you know, I was hoping for a Canon EOS 400D digital camera..... What I got was an ill-fitting shirt!

[zooplan]

Whats that, James?
May I see a picture, please?
:rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

Well, I guess Christmas is over now. As some of you know, I was hoping for a Canon EOS 400D digital camera..... What I got was an ill-fitting shirt!
Well, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.

[drache]

you mean you didn't get the camera????!!!!!!!!

on another note
Sean - the guy who runs the rescue - his dog died on christmas eve
and it wasn't just any dog (he's got more than one) - this was his special buddy dog
and it was completely unexpected
the dog got sick, they treated her, she got better, seemed fine, then suddenly dead
I feel so bad for him
part of me wanted to go over there last night and clean all his puppy crates or something, because i know how grief saps ones energy
but i still had all the babies to feed and a bunch of other stuff . . .
I'll go there later and see what I can do
please send some good thoughts his way
and if you want to do something for the rescue, this is them:
Sean Casey Animal Rescue: Home (http://scarnyc.org/)

[Lori P]

Oh, poor Sean. It never fails, when you do rescue, that you seem to loose someone special around the holidays... this past year started with the loss of one of our very special horses, Dawn, on New Year's Day, and I swear that set the tone for the whole year. So tell Sean he's in our thoughts and hope he finds peace soon...

[adamanteus]

Oh well.... the Christmas break was great, but reality must come crashing in... I'm back to work tomorrow. Oh joy!:rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

Yeah, I know the feeling.

My studies continue on monday and I'll be moving into a better student apartment on friday. 10 more square meters and twice the rent. :rolleyes:

[adamanteus]

twice the rent. :rolleyes:

It can't be easy, Stefan, without a proper income. I don't know how it is in Finland, but I know that in the UK we don't really look after our mature students as well as we should. How much longer until you qualify?

[adamanteus]

I'm rounding off my holiday with a bottle of Chateauneuf-du-Pape (one of my Christmas presents).... very nice, but at 14.5% vol I'll be trashed tomorrow!:D

[Stefan-A]

It can't be easy, Stefan, without a proper income. I don't know how it is in Finland, but I know that in the UK we don't really look after our mature students as well as we should. How much longer until you qualify?
The government compensates for 80% of the rent, as long as the rent stays below 252€. The student pays for the rest. Since there's a shortage of affordable apartments, the price rarely stays below that. On top of that, they just tore down the old student apartments to build new ones (finished in 2009), so about a hundred students were basically homeless when school started this fall. I was lucky enough to get an apartment.

Fortunately I have the best parents in the world, they offered to pay some of the rent when I showed them the pictures of my current apartment. :D Frankly, I couldn't have asked them to do it and I don't really need it, but I do welcome the support. :) So, somebody moved out of this better student apartment after Christmas and I'll be moving in.

2 more years left. I have no idea what to write my thesis on, but I'm planning on doing something that involves herps. ;) Maybe some conservation plan, or something.

[adamanteus]

Do you have a career path in mind for the future, Stefan?
I stilll haven't decided what I want to be when I grow up!:D

[Stefan-A]

Sort of. I want a hands-on outdoor job, so that narrows it down a bit. :D

[adamanteus]

Sort of. I want a hands-on outdoor job, so that narrows it down a bit. :D

Doesn't narrow it down much... anything from refuse collection to shark wrangler!:D

[adamanteus]

Actually, I know what I want to be, but the job doesn't exist anymore (at least not in the Western World).... I want to be a hunter-gatherer!:D

[Stefan-A]

Haven't had that many sharks in Finnish waters. :D I think they caught a spiny dogfish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiny_dogfish) a few years ago, though. :)

The other species that is found in Finnish waters maybe once every two or thee decades, is the porbeagle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porbeagle).

[Stefan-A]

Actually, I know what I want to be, but the job doesn't exist anymore (at least not in the Western World).... I want to be a hunter-gatherer!:D
Move to Finland, you don't even need to own land to be able to hunt and gather here. :D

[adamanteus]

When I left school (at 14 years old) my first job was as a fisherman off the East coast of Scotland....we caught a Porbeagle once, looks just like a miniature Great White!

[adamanteus]

Move to Finland, you don't even need to own land to be able to hunt and gather here. :D

But are you allowed to live outside society, in that way?
Anyway, I was thinking that at my age hunting and gathering might be easier in a more 'Mediterranean' climate!:rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

But are you allowed to live outside society, in that way?
Anyway, I was thinking that at my age hunting and gathering might be easier in a more 'Mediterranean' climate!:rolleyes:
I don't think they'll let you do that, they probably want you to pay taxes. ;)

The Mediterranean climate isn't very hospitable, though. Not much to hunt or gather.

[adamanteus]

I don't think they'll let you do that, they probably want you to pay taxes. ;)

Exactly. But it's not fair... I think it's our right to live as nature intended, if we wish to do so.

The Mediterranean climate isn't very hospitable, though.

I know! But I'm a bit of a sun worshipper!:rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

You could probably live that way in areas that haven't been claimed by any nation. International waters and maybe the polar regions, even though they have been claimed. ;)

[adamanteus]

You could probably live that way in areas that haven't been claimed by any nation. International waters and the polar regions. ;)

Oh right, that'll be fun!:rolleyes:

[adamanteus]

It's just getting interesting.... but I must go to bed or I'll be fit for nothing in the morning! Let's continue this later, Stefan.

[Stefan-A]

Come on, what's more fun than clubbing seals and penguins for a living? :D

See you later, James. :D

[adamanteus]

what's more fun than clubbing seals and penguins for a living? :D

True, but I need my greens!:D

[drache]

there's yet places in the US where one can disappear in the wilderness, given appropriate survival skills - and still get one's greens

on another note
I wish to praise space blankets

my snakes that are brumating are doing this on the sunporch, which on average is about 10ºF higher than the outdoors
last night the outdoors went into the low 20s - scary
hence the space blanket

[Lori P]

James, you can come live in the woods behind my house. There's 2000 acres there, with a nice river running thru and lots of swampland. Just don't let me catch you creeping up to my house to steal eggs, goats, or peek in my windows! :D

[adamanteus]

James, you can come live in the woods behind my house. There's 2000 acres there, with a nice river running thru and lots of swampland. Just don't let me catch you creeping up to my house to steal eggs, goats, or peek in my windows! :D

I'm on my way now. Just packing my furs!:D

[anji1971]

Oh-Oh. Looks like James is getting ready to go rowing across the Atlantic once again!:D

[Charlet_2007]

lol :D:D:D:D

[Lori P]

Did you guys see the two headed hognose for sale on Kingsnake?!! Here's the link:

http://market. kingsnake. com/detail. php?de=564624& cat=6 (http://market. kingsnake. com/detail. php?de=564624& cat=6)

Did you see the price!!!!

I'd like to see the xrays of her.

[Lori P]

Oh, this was on CL this evening. It may just be me, but studding that pic of the live snake, I swear that snake looks ematiated (other than the fact that it just ate another snake bigger than itself). Did it do this out of desperation??

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/pet/529562123.html (http://norfolk.craigslist.org/pet/529562123.html)

[Sputnik]

Eww, that looks nasty! I totally agree, Lori, that python looks as if it was starved, which would explain the cannibalism.

[ssssnakeluvr]

obviously this guy has never seen garters.....they are definitely fine together....i have found them together under rocks and logs....he needs to go to the field herp forum and see how many photos are of snakes found together under boards and stuff....