Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[GarterGirl]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
My dad just told his buddies on the pd that i have garters and he is coming over to check what i have!!!!!!!! I have eastern garters wich im not aloud to have what to do?
You could say its a different kind of snake OR you could hide the snake OR you could listen to other people's advice.

[Josh]

are they coming expressly to check whether you're legal, or is it just that they're interested?
I think both

[Stefan-A]

Label them "common garters". ;) Technically it's correct and you can always hope they aren't able to identify the subspecies. :D Hide them in plain sight.

[zooplan]

Anything new, Josh?
I´m soooo lucky that garter keeping is not forced by any law in germany yet.
http://www.zooplan.net/images/tetram.jpg

[drache]

yeah Josh
what happened?
I hope it's all okay

[Lulu Bennett]

josh, how did it go? do you still have your snakes?

[Stefan-A]

I bet he's on his way to Gitmo as we speak. ;)

[Lulu Bennett]

I bet he's on his way to Gitmo as we speak. ;)
Gitmo??? :confused:

[drache]

snake terrorist?
I think they keep 'em some other place

[Stefan-A]

Gitmo??? :confused:
Guantanamo Bay. :)


snake terrorist?
I think they keep 'em some other place
You mean like in secret prisons in Bulgaria? ;)

What time is it over there, by the way? Any chance he's still just asleep? :D

[Lulu Bennett]

i think its about 8 isn't it? just a guess lol

[Josh]

I brought the tank to the one corner in the basement were the witches and goblins were lol. but he thought my maritimes were easterns but i told him. I started thinking, would animal control do those little checks?

[zooplan]

When Don is entering your room, you´ll know it:D

[Josh]

lol
he said he like my " the one wit da perrtty yella stipe"

[drache]

glad to hear you've still got 'em

I've had an awful stressful morning of rushing around and being hissy to my family
but one wonderful thing happened

I saw the wild parrots!
well, three of them
they were in a tree around the corner from my house, eating berries
they are so green it took me forever to see them, even when they were pointed out to me
and they're big too - not like the ones in San Francisco
now I really want to see whether I can't get some pics of them

[zooplan]

Do you no what speci it is?
We have a lot of Psittacula krameri in Bonn.
So much that you can read about it in Wikipedia.

[drache]

I don't know very much about parrots
this is a page about Brooklyn's population:
BrooklynParrots.com: A Web Site About the Wild Parrots of Brooklyn (http://www.brooklynparrots.com/)
I must have seen some Amazons

[drache]

got to meet my new vet today
one of my new hognoses hasn't eaten yet and I brought in another snake for a check-up
so the new vet is a 10min walk from my house
she seems competent
and the fee was reasonable ($50.-)
Mikhaila liked her a lot
anyway - I just hope th little guy will start eating soon
somehow he looks to me like he's gonna shed again, even though he did just shed a couple of weeks ago

[anji1971]

Rhea, I'm glad you found a new vet, and one that seems like she'll be able to do a good job!!:) Hope the little snaky eats soon- good luck!!

[zooplan]

This is the link to those I´ve meant:
Halsbandsittich - Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halsbandsittich)

nice to hear about your new vet, hope her work will be successful.

[drache]

[quote=zooplan;31209]This is the link to those I´ve meant:
Halsbandsittich - Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halsbandsittich)
/quote]

those are beautiful
it seems that they're quite a bit bigger than the quaker parrots that is the most common species in Brooklyn (wikipedia even mentions my neighbourhood) - Monk Parakeet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monk_Parakeet)

btw
do you guys think I should accustom myself to using those little icon thingies?
I know I sometimes say things that I mean to poke fun at things and possibly they are not taken that way
just occurred to me
just because I'm lazy, doesn't mean I should be taken seriously at all times
if something I say strikes you as laughable, go ahead and assume it is meant that way, even if it doesn't have three of those green grins behind it

[anji1971]

Don't worry about it Rhea! I find that once I read enough posts by any one person, I can kind of tell whether or not they're joking around or being serious, even without the funny green grins!!:D:D:D........but the grins are cute!!

[enigma200316]

James you haven't hit that 4th century mark as fast as you hit the 3rd one,
slowing down in the old age or what.....:D

[enigma200316]

Don't worry about it Rhea! I find that once I read enough posts by any one person, I can kind of tell whether or not they're joking around or being serious, even without the funny green grins!!:D:D:D........but the grins are cute!!



I like them because it makes my post look better, and we all know I need that......:rolleyes::D

[zooplan]

[quote=zooplan;31209]btw
do you guys think I should accustom myself to using those little icon thingies?
I know I sometimes say things that I mean to poke fun at things and possibly they are not taken that way
just occurred to me
just because I'm lazy, doesn't mean I should be taken seriously at all times
if something I say strikes you as laughable, go ahead and assume it is meant that way, even if it doesn't have three of those green grins behind it

I use the icons only, because I´m not sure about my English grammar and the meaning of some terms

[adamanteus]

James you haven't hit that 4th century mark as fast as you hit the 3rd one,
slowing down in the old age or what.....:D

I have been away for some days, staying with friends in Plymouth.....but I'm back now!;)

[zooplan]

I think, justins is trying to get the 1000 tonight:D
but I have to sleep now
there are only 6 hours left until my alarm clock will end the night

good night

[adamanteus]

Good night, Udo. I will think of you at work, while I am on holiday all this week!:D:rolleyes:

[enigma200316]

I think, justins is trying to get the 1000 tonight:D
but I have to sleep now
there are only 6 hours left until my alarm clock will end the night

good night



no, just trying to living it up here a little bit, its been well very dull lately...........:D

[adamanteus]

So Justin...you passed the 1,000 post mark. Have you thought of a custom name yet?

[enigma200316]

So Justin...you passed the 1,000 post mark. Have you thought of a custom name yet?


Yes James, I want to be a (Basilisk) the King of all Serpents........:D

[ssssnakeluvr]

hmmmm....didn't mention anything to me when I passed 1000.....:( lol!!!!!!! still trying to think of a good one...:D

[adamanteus]

Sorry, Don. You slipped by me! Let me know when you choose one, and I'll change it over for you.:D

[enigma200316]

hmmmm....didn't mention anything to me when I passed 1000.....:( lol!!!!!!! still trying to think of a good one...:D


remember Don, James has just returned from the Mother ship, so it will be a little bit til he gets back in the groove..............:D:D

[ssssnakeluvr]

LOL!!!! I passed it a couple weeks ago...just haven't been able to think of a good one.....:D

[anji1971]

By the time I get to 1,000 there probably won't be anything even remotely related to snakes left to use!!!:D:D

[drache]

By the time I get to 1,000 there probably won't be anything even remotely related to snakes left to use!!!:D:D

I wouldn't about that so much
some people don't even pick anything snake related titles

[anji1971]

That's true, Rhea!
Guess I could just pick the first thing that pops into my head, and make people wonder.......
.....Hmmmm, this is a garter snake forum, why does this gal's title say "Aardvarks are cute!" ......?????

[drache]

I wonder whether you'd get "moderator" if you asked for it

[zooplan]

I hope to become adult soon.
I have not enough time to think about passing 1000, maybe next year

[Lori P]

That's true, Rhea!
Guess I could just pick the first thing that pops into my head, and make people wonder.......
.....Hmmmm, this is a garter snake forum, why does this gal's title say "Aardvarks are cute!" ......?????

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!

[enigma200316]

Great news today people, My Ringneck finally ate 2 baby Nightcrawlers, its been atleast 3 months since it has ate last......:D:D I didn't worry or anything because it has been drinking the whole time and hasn't seemed to get any thiner and also has had normal activity............but just thought I'd update you all.........:)

[adamanteus]

Great news, Justin.:D

[Lori P]

YAAAAAY Justin's ringneck! Way to go! :-)

Which leads me to another question: do you all keep a record of your snakes' feedings?? I do for the ball pythons, but have not been for the garters. And, do you keep records of their sheds?

[enigma200316]

YAAAAAY Justin's ringneck! Way to go! :-)

Which leads me to another question: do you all keep a record of your snakes' feedings?? I do for the ball pythons, but have not been for the garters. And, do you keep records of their sheds?


I don't keep records I just remember when I feed them and then how often, I also sit there and watch them eat until its all gone......:D

[Lori P]

Oh, me too... lol... I was late to work this morning because I was watching them eat!!! Mordecai ate TWO pinkies and four little minnows!!!!!!

[drache]

I keep records, but sometimes I forget to enter stuff when I get busy

[zooplan]

I don´t keep records on feeding but measure their shed skins or weight and write it to my calendar.
The same I do with observed mating and clutches.

[enigma200316]

if and when it comes down to breeding I would keep records, but other than that I'm not interested in doing it, guess I just wouldn't want to bothered with it...lol:)

[Lori P]

Thanks guys. I am keeping the garter's sheds with the date. but probably won't keep feeding records on them unless a problem comes up. I figure when they are old and grey I can pull out their "baby sheds" and reminisce.... LOL!!!

[zooplan]

I have a collection of about 100 sheds
(only for my visits of schools and Kindergardens)
the rest is used as fertelizer in my garden
Furthermore I only keep my calendars.

[drache]

I give sheds that I retrieve undamaged to interested parties (usually kids)
the rest end up in the compost, where they're then retrieved by the racoon who decorates the garden with banana peels and egg shells

[Stefan-A]

I've saved three sheds. My first snake's first shed and my vagrans babies' first sheds. I expect them to shed again this weekend, by the way. :) Maybe I'll keep all of their sheds if I can figure out a good way to store them.

I'll finally be getting an internet connection where I live. It'll be slow, but it'll do.

[adamanteus]

Is it just me who throws the old shed skins away? Am I the odd one out?

[Stefan-A]

No, I throw out all of mine. I've just saved one and been too lazy to throw away the latest set. :D

[Lulu Bennett]

i have got about 30 sheds on the top of the marcys tank lol might end up throuhging most away but keep the last one to compare with the new shed to see the difference in growth lol

oh yeah and i keep records for feeding, sheds and tank cleans. more for my benifit because i can never remember when i have done it lol

[Stefan-A]

I've tried to keep records, but I always forget to write things down.

[anji1971]

I've never kept any records, although now I kind of wish I had, since I can't remember the last time Deejay shed. How long is it normally between sheds? I think it's been about 6 months. Although she ate enough salmon on Monday to feed an army of snakes, so maybe she was just in a lull! She's pretty chubby looking at the moment!:D

[adamanteus]

A discussion Rhea and I were just having in another thread made me think of this......
If you could be a super-hero, who would you be, and why?:D

[Stefan-A]

Who would YOU be? :D

[adamanteus]

Well, I would obviously need to play to my strengths.
So I would be "Llama Man"......I can bleat, I can trot, and I'm prone to flatulence when threatened.:D

[drache]

that's good one
a read a martial arts novel long ago, where the hero was knocked out by a guy who had cultivated a deadly form of flatulence

the super power I've always wanted, is to be able to understand and speak all languages, including those of other beings - plants, rocks, etc
but being invisible is kind of cool
I'm getting a taste of that occasionally on the subway

hey guys
Jeff and I are getting married today
Mikhaila will be a b*st*rd no longer

[Stefan-A]

Ah, I thought you meant a "real" superhero. :D
I really have to think about that one, but I've always wanted omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence.. If I can't have all three, either of the first two would be just fine. ;)




edit: Congratulations, Rhea!

[adamanteus]

You can be a real super-hero if you like Stefan. Although I see you more as a super-villain!:D

[Stefan-A]

I like to see myself as more of a deity than a super-hero (why do I keep typing "super-herp"??) or super-villain. So that I can combine the best of both worlds. ;)

[Lori P]

Well, I would obviously need to play to my strengths.
So I would be "Llama Man"......I can bleat, I can trot, and I'm prone to flatulence when threatened.:D

ROFLMAO!!!!!!! And THIS is what I wake up to read this morning!!!! Ok James, this is an oldie but now I see why it always cracks me up... it was obviously made just for you!!! Turn your speakers up!!!!

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama)

[Stefan-A]

Lori, that's one of my all-time favorite flash animations. :D Thanks for reminding me of its existence. :D

[adamanteus]

Excellent clip, Lori.... now I have a theme tune!:D

[Lori P]

Word of advice: do NOT let Molly hear it. Trust me on this... you'll be hearing "llama llama DUCK" at all odd hours for months.... :-)

[adamanteus]

As he's kinda 'Norse', Stefan could be "The Fire God", who's fire making powers give him the power to make fire.:rolleyes:

[adamanteus]

Word of advice: do NOT let Molly hear it. Trust me on this... you'll be hearing "llama llama DUCK" at all odd hours for months.... :-)

Lori, you're too late! She's here now yelling "Daddy, Daddy, play it again!"

[Lori P]

ROFL!!!!!!!! Sorry James!!!!!! I have to remember to put that discalimer at the top next time!!!

SING IT MOLLY!!!!

[adamanteus]

I see Lori's super-persona as 'She-Woman-Cat-Type-Thing', with the ability to take personal grooming to a whole new level!:)

[Stefan-A]

I've played that clip 9 times since you posted it. :D Can't get enough.

[Lori P]

As he's kinda 'Norse', Stefan could be "The Fire God", who's fire making powers give him the power to make fire.:rolleyes:

I'm sorry... not real clear on what his powers do??? :D

[adamanteus]

He could light a fire, I guess.:)

[Lori P]

I see Lori's super-persona as 'She-Woman-Cat-Type-Thing', with the ability to take personal grooming to a whole new level!:)

ROFL... I am always telling my hubby, "I am woman, hear me roar:

Meow."

LOL!!!!

[Stefan-A]

He could light a fire, I guess.:)
I have to admit, pyrokinesis does have a certain appeal. Then again, you have your flatulence so all you would really need is a lighter. ;)

[adamanteus]

I'm not sure I could operate a lighter with my funny little llama feet. We would need to be a dynamic duo.... I create the fuel, you ignite it!

[anji1971]

Frankly, I'd be a little worried if either of you had super powers- I think your lunacy is powerful enough on its own!!:p:p

[Morph]

heya people. just thought i'd pop in and say hi. hopefully it wont be forever until i get the internet back but its not gonna be in the nea future.

take care everyone!

[adamanteus]

Great to see you on line Morph. You have been missed!

[Morph]

ah, i'm filled with an enormous sense of wellbeing now. i might have to see if the forum is wap compatible so i can access it on my phone.

[adamanteus]

Have you looked at the 'Sky' broadband package?

[Morph]

yeah i have.... costs too much once you pay for the landline etc. i can get the forum on my phone as i just found out :D

[adamanteus]

I'm going to sign up for the Sky package once I'm free from BT. I'm tied in with them until June '08.

[anji1971]

Hi, Morph! Nice to meet you!

Gee, there seem to be an awful lot of people returning from absence today!!!:)

[Lori P]

Is that you in the pic??? Oh my!!!!! :-)

[enigma200316]

Is that you in the pic??? Oh my!!!!! :-)


yeah Morphs the snake, don't know who the freaky looking guy is though.....:D:D

[Lori P]

LOL Justin!!!! Now YOU'RE the pain in my donkey!!!!!! LOL

[adamanteus]

No, Morphs' avatar is just some random pic off the internet. Morph is far too ugly to show us his face!:D;)

[enigma200316]

No, Morphs' avatar is just some random pic off the internet. Morph is far too ugly to show us his face!:D;)



thats the pot calling the kettle black James........:D:D

[adamanteus]

No! My avatar isn't really me either!

[enigma200316]

No! My avatar isn't really me either!



no I mean the ugly part.................oh never mind where is Lori's you know what..........:D:D

[adamanteus]

no I mean the ugly part

And which part is ugly, Justin? Have you been looking at my donkey?:rolleyes:

[enigma200316]

And which part is ugly, Justin? Have you been looking at my donkey?:rolleyes:


no and that don't sound right, you sick puppy.........:eek::D:D

[adamanteus]

Anyway Justin....did you need the nonsense about super-heros? Who would you be? Should we take your avatar as a clue?

[enigma200316]

Anyway Justin....did you need the nonsense about super-heros? Who would you be? Should we take your avatar as a clue?


I really don't know who I'd be, but sure take the avatar as a clue and what do you come up with hmmmm...........

[adamanteus]

sure take the avatar as a clue and what do you come up with hmmmm...........

Shiny Letter 'S' Man?:rolleyes:

[enigma200316]

Shiny Letter 'S' Man?:rolleyes:



nnnnnnooooooo silly, SuperSnake..........:rolleyes::D

[Lori P]

And which part is ugly, Justin? Have you been looking at my donkey?:rolleyes:

James, I believe I can speak for everyone here when I say, please, for the love of all that is holy, keep that donkey covered....:D

[Lori P]

Shiny Letter 'S' Man?:rolleyes:


ROFLAMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[enigma200316]

James, I believe I can speak for everyone here when I say, please, for the love of all that is holy, keep that donkey covered....:D



why we already have seen that James makes wounderful looking offspring.........:) (Brownie points):D

[anji1971]

Yes, indeed, but maybe she's the spitting image of her MOM, not James!!(no brownie points for me.........:()

[Stefan-A]

Mmm brownies...

[Lulu Bennett]

Morph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome back sweety. i thought you didn't like us anymore:( or that you are an axe murderer and had been cought and 'banged up' lol but either way it is great to see you back hunnie. (sorry, its rediculess o'clock in the morning)

james, for the love of god, please do not show us your donkey! love you sweety but please, no! ;)

as for hero's and villans i want to be Cheetara: Cheetara is the fastest of the Thundercats. Her lightning quick speed, though somewhat limited in use, and hand-activated bo-staff make her nearly invincible. Cheetara also has a mysterious "sixth-sense" that provides her with premonitions about the future or an accurate portrayal of the past. Although her use of this special "sixth sense" provides accurate information, it is also very limited.

[Stefan-A]

Yay! First snow!

[drache]

snow would be nice . . .
we're expecting torrential rain storms later today

I'm getting my first taste of herp assistant today
Mikhaila's friend Juliet is charging $2.50 per hour to help - proceeds go to an animal cause - forget which
Mikhaila left with her grandparents yesterday and I'm a bit backed up with seasonal changes, so I need the help
I'll let you know how it goes

[enigma200316]

as for hero's and villans i want to be Cheetara: Cheetara is the fastest of the Thundercats. Her lightning quick speed, though somewhat limited in use, and hand-activated bo-staff make her nearly invincible. Cheetara also has a mysterious "sixth-sense" that provides her with premonitions about the future or an accurate portrayal of the past. Although her use of this special "sixth sense" provides accurate information, it is also very limited.


Thunder Thunder Thundercats hooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:DI loved that cartoon..........

[enigma200316]

hey guys I found 5 baby garters today and I'm not home so it will be a couple days til I post pics................

[reptileparadise]

pics...pics!!!
...in a few days...take your time :)

[Lori P]

Yeah, take your time, just hurry up... :p

[Stefan-A]

The choice is yours, don't be late. ;) :D

[Lori P]

Yay! First snow!

Ugh!! Keep it there Stefan!! It's 65 and sunny here... :-) I don't do cold!! I keep telling Jamie we need to move further south...

[Stefan-A]

At least sunny and cold aren't mutually exclusive. The coldest winter days are usually sunny. :D Cold and warm are both good options, it's everything in between that sucks.

[anji1971]

I just keep praying that we get enough snow this year to make it worthwhile! Last winter was so mild here that we never got to go out tobogganing once, think we went skating twice -- whoo- hoo!!:rolleyes:
What's the point of having winter unless it actually acts like winter?? I'm in Canada, dammit!! Where's my snow????:mad:

[adamanteus]

It's been a few years since we saw any 'decent' snow here. Just drizzle and sleet for half the year! Too much weather and not enough climate here in the UK!

[drache]

here's a pic of my herp helper next to the big tank she cleaned (I helped)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/1845935784_e145a46212_b.jpg

it's so clean now, I can take crystal clear pics right through the glass, see?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2273/1845982014_2eb1d3fd18_b.jpg

she also gave Henner a bath in the bathtub (no airplanes)
and we converted old snack containers to damp hides for babies

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2359/1845138745_ffe90fc883_b.jpg

some of them had been having bad sheds

I will hire herp helper again
her name is Juliet, but she often goes by Jules and we met her at an adoption event

[anji1971]

Yes, and I think it's that particular weather that's migrated over here!! Gray, cold, damp and drizzly seems to be about it for winter now. Until March, when it's supposed to warm up a bit, and then we usually get a big snowstorm just to tick us off!:) I so want to move up north..........

[adamanteus]

Jules sure made a good job of that glass, Rhea!

[Sid]

Appears you have found some excellent additional help there, Rhea;).

[drache]

Appears you have found some excellent additional help there, Rhea;).

not only that
she actually enjoyed doing the work
if she keeps it up, her mom may let her have another snake

[anji1971]

It's great to see young children taking such an interest, and showing it by actually doing some of the work involved. Jules could teach lots of kids a thing or two about responsibility. Great luck for you to have found her, Rhea!:)

[Lori P]

Oh my... you know what, I don't have damp hides for the garters. Should I???? We've had no shed problems but if it would be better to have one, let me know... and Rhea, your tanks look great and your little helper seems like quite a jewel!!! :-)

[Stefan-A]

I've noticed with my garters that they've only used the hides around shedding time. They don't bother using them unless they feel it's necessary.

[drache]

[quote=Lori P;32130]Oh my... you know what, I don't have damp hides for the garters. Should I???? quote]
this is the first time I'm giving them to my garters
all my kings have them, as well as the xenochrophis and the lystrophis
none of my other garters have them
for some reason this batch of babies is having a high incidence of shedding problems
and it even took me a while to think of giving them the damp hides - I just kept wet bagging

[adamanteus]

Well, my weeks' holiday is over, it was great while it lasted. Back to work tomorrow, it's midnight here now so I better 'turn in'. Catch you all later Guys. X

[enigma200316]

Oh my... you know what, I don't have damp hides for the garters. Should I???? We've had no shed problems but if it would be better to have one, let me know... and Rhea, your tanks look great and your little helper seems like quite a jewel!!! :-)




its just nice to have, it helps with shedding, and keeping kool if need
be.............:)

[enigma200316]

Well, my weeks' holiday is over, it was great while it lasted. Back to work tomorrow, it's midnight here now so I better 'turn in'. Catch you all later Guys. X




good luck with that James, it always sucks going back to work after being off for a while...........

[Lori P]

Hope you have a great day James and nothing fell apart in your absence!!!!

[anji1971]

Good news! Deejay's finally about to shed -- thought she was going to hang on to that old skin forever, but after her last feeding, I guess she figured she'd better grow or burst apart!!:eek:

[Lori P]

Yaaaaay Deejay! Grow, grow, grow.... :-) Miriam is finally about to shed for the second time too. :-)

[anji1971]

Deejay was shedding pretty often for the first couple years, but it seems since she's hit that 2-year mark, she just got plain tired of it!!!! I think this is her way of thanking me for putting her in a bigger house........wait till she gets into the next one, I might be in for trouble!:D

[Lori P]

OMG, Anji, you know what?? I didn't realize Deejay was 2 yrs old!! I thought she was still very young. LOL Not sure how I missed that. :-) Well, anyway, gooo Deejay still! LOL

[anji1971]

That's because I keep referring to her as my 'baby' since she was the offspring of my big garter, the late Dojo. I kind of keep forgetting that she's actually a big girl now, too! She's the same size her mom was when we found her, and when this shed is finished, she may be close to the size her mom left us at.
When I get the new baby dekay's next week, maybe I'll start talking about Deejay like the grown up she is!!!!:):)

[Lori P]

Yeah, she's probably tired of the "baby" stuff... she's a teenager now ya know!!! :-)

[Lulu Bennett]

lori, anji, you two really make me laugh with the stuff you babble on about lol just what i need after a 12hr shift lol but to be honest, no matter how big my snakes get they will always be my 'babies' lol

[anji1971]

That's why I come here to babble, it's the one place where there's always someone who will listen!!!:p

[Lulu Bennett]

lol its great after a hard shift because i know you two and a couple of other members have all had a good old natter about everything and nothing lol. its just a shame i am never on when everyone else is lol

anyway how has today been for you? hows the snakes??

[anji1971]

I'm fine, so is Deejay! Have you been reading my other thread, about my new Dekay's snake that I'm getting next week? I can hardly wait!!!
Lulu, I hope you'll be on line for a little while yet -- I have to go tuck my kids in and feed the snake, but I'll be back, so if you're still around we'll chat then ok??;)

[Lulu Bennett]

lol i will probably be up for a whie yet lol its nearly 2am and i am still wide awake lol i think its called 'insomnia' lol oh well talk soon xxx

[Lulu Bennett]

I've looked at the pictures Rick, but to be honest I'm not all that familiar with T. s. pickeringi, I thought it was similar to T. s. concinnus in appearance. The scale count would pretty much convince me...17 would be T. ordinoides. Not much help am I? Sorry about that.

hahaha sorry to bring this thread up james but this was in the old classified section, it seems to me that you didn't always know everything lol sorry but it made me laugh lol (mind it is nearly 3am so most things are making me laugh at this point in time lol)

[anji1971]

Hi! I'm back.........anyone still around??:)

[Lulu Bennett]

lol yup only just but yup. did you see my last post about james lol hehehe

[anji1971]

I saw it, sounds like at one time he was as dumb about some of this stuff as I am!!:p But he's definitely WAY ahead of me on most snake stuff!

[Lulu Bennett]

lol i know that thought lol it just reminds me that he is human after all lol.

[anji1971]

Yeah, but he does seem like a walking encyclopedia, at times!! Him and Stefan too -- I don't know where they keep all that info ready at a moment's notice. I can read something and not remember it 10 minutes later. Hell, I can't even remember what I ate for breakfast this morning!!!! Oh well..............:rolleyes:

[Lulu Bennett]

Yeah, but he does seem like a walking encyclopedia, at times!! Him and Stefan too -- I don't know where they keep all that info ready at a moment's notice. I can read something and not remember it 10 minutes later. Hell, I can't even remember what I ate for breakfast this morning!!!! Oh well..............:rolleyes:

lol i am the same lol i find google a blessing lol i always have it open in another tab lol it works wonders and i always feel alot brighter than i know i am lol

[Lulu Bennett]

right hunnie i am going to have to get some sleep. its 03:40 here and i have just started to drift off so i better say my good nights now lol. sleep tight hun and i will speak to you when i can think and focus more lol xxx

[Stefan-A]

Yeah, but he does seem like a walking encyclopedia, at times!! Him and Stefan too -- I don't know where they keep all that info ready at a moment's notice. I can read something and not remember it 10 minutes later. Hell, I can't even remember what I ate for breakfast this morning!!!! Oh well..............:rolleyes:
What? :D

I've always wondered what other people do with their extra space. I fill mine with knowledge of everything I've ever been interested in. It does have its drawbacks and it's always the same; you're just sitting there, quoting Cato the Elder, or lines from the Parrot Sketch, and nobody knows what the hell you're talking about. :D Incidentally, the examples are real (and from October). And they were relevant to the discussion.

Then again, I don't have any kind of short term memory.

[anji1971]

Short term, long term. It doesn't matter either way with me.......I can't remember anything useful when I need it! I don't know exactly when that happened........ when I was in high school and college I had top marks and never studied, just recalled everything I'd learned, and now..................well..........I think it has something to do with having children; they kill off brain cells as well as give you grey hair!!!:D

[Lori P]

Short term, long term. It doesn't matter either way with me.......I can't remember anything useful when I need it! I don't know exactly when that happened........ when I was in high school and college I had top marks and never studied, just recalled everything I'd learned, and now..................well..........I think it has something to do with having children; they kill off brain cells as well as give you grey hair!!!:D

Uh oh. Then what's MY excuse?? (I don't have kids!) :-)

[ssssnakeluvr]

I have a photographic memory.....I just forgot where I put the film.....:eek::D

[Lori P]

Rofl!!!!!!!!!!

[anji1971]

I have a photographic memory.....I just forgot where I put the film.....:eek::D


HAHA!! That's what I was thinking when I typed up my last post! And of course, my brain is too old to convert to digital........!:D

[Lulu Bennett]

I have a photographic memory.....I just forgot where I put the film.....:eek::D
i wil second that. That is now my excuse too lol

[GarterGirl]

*sigh* School has been really hard for me.
Now, I have two teachers that absolutely hate me. *sigh*
I hate 4th grade.

[Lori P]

I've had a very sad day here. My sweet, silly cocker spaniel Coconut passed away this morning... she was only 4 years old. :-( :-( She started having massive seizures about a month ago, out of the blue. Rushed her to the vet, they found nothing in the bloodwork, put her on meds (phenobarb). It worked like a charm, altho the dose was high and she was a bit groggy all month, but no seizures. She had her re-check appt set for this Friday to run more lab work and adjust her dose. Well, last night in the middle of the night she had a seizure, and then again early this morning. Called the vet, they said to bring her in at 10 am... so I laid with her on the bed for a while, snuggling, then did a few things around the house, and when it was close to time to leave I went to get her. She was still on the bed, her silly little tongue hanging way out as usual, but when I touched her to wake her up... she was gone. She had passed quietly and apparently gently in her sleep. I am so greatful for that, really I am, and I am also greatful that I was here at home with her... but it's so hard.

I had found her as a tiny pup on the interstate, and she had neurological damage... and was seriously simple in the brains department, but she was a sweetie. Always happy, that little stub was always going. I hope she is somewhere completely free and healthy now, chasing chickens in the clouds.

:( Lori

[adamanteus]

Poor Coconut. I'm so sorry to hear that, Lori.:(

[Lori P]

Thanks James-- we were just talking about loss not too long ago, weren't we.

Well-- on a positive note-- I had the opportunity to watch Miriam shed again this evening. She was so graceful wriggling out of that out-of-date skin ("Oh, it's so last year") and it came off in one perfect piece. Too cool to watch.

[anji1971]

Oh Lori, I'm SO sad to hear about your doggie:(:(:(.............. sounds like she was a real doll. Hugs from me........

[anji1971]

*sigh* School has been really hard for me.
Now, I have two teachers that absolutely hate me. *sigh*
I hate 4th grade.

Mikhaila, how can any teacher possibly not like you?? You're such a smart, beautiful girl! There must be something horribly wrong with them. Chin up, honey, grade 4 can be rough, but it doesn't last forever!;)

[drache]

Lori
I'm so sorry about the loss of your dog
don't know what to say

[enigma200316]

sorry for your loss, Lori..............:( chin up!!!!

[anji1971]

Well, the cold season has definitely begun. Looked outside at my bird feeder (which has been relatively quiet all summer) and HOLY SMOKES!! My front yard looked like an Alfred Hitchcock movie, only with sparrows!! And of course, 3 pigeons, 5 mourning doves, and a couple big fat bluejays thrown in for good measure. So here I am watching this massive invasion drain my feeder in record time, when suddenly..........POOF!:eek:......huge cloud of birds just explodes in front of my face, and they all disappear.:confused:..........aaaaaah, the culprit -- kitty from down the block, thinking he'd just found the Birdie Buffet!! He's still sitting in my garden looking terribly disappointed!!:rolleyes:

[drache]

Mikhaila, how can any teacher possibly not like you?? You're such a smart, beautiful girl! There must be something horribly wrong with them. Chin up, honey, grade 4 can be rough, but it doesn't last forever!;)
Mikhaila's teacher is kind of new at the school and a bit more strict than we're used to
and Mikhaila is relentlessly creative which can be exhausting to a teacher who doesn't live in that realm

[anji1971]

Well I guess it's the teacher who's going to be getting an education then, she'll have to step up pretty quick to keep up with Mikhaila's creativity! Hope she doesn't give her too hard a time until then, though.:)

[Lori P]

JAMES!!! Saw this on Yahoo today-- didn't want you inadvertantly ending up in jail!! LOL :D I'm going to get a job in a fish store... :D

Most ridiculous British laws:

1. It is illegal to die in the House of Parliament

2. It is an act of treason to place a postage stamp bearing the British monarch upside-down

3. In Liverpool, it is illegal for a woman to be topless except as a clerk in a tropical fish store

4. Mince pies cannot be eaten on Christmas Day

5. In Scotland, if someone knocks on your door and requires the use of your toilet, you must let them enter

6. A pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants, including in a policeman's helmet

7. The head of any dead whale found on the British coast automatically becomes the property of the king, and the tail of the queen

8. It is illegal to avoid telling the tax man anything you do not want him to know, but legal not to tell him information you do not mind him knowing


9. It is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament in a suit of armour
10. In the city of York it is legal to murder a Scotsman within the ancient city walls, but only if he is carrying a bow and arrow

[anji1971]

Hmmm.......illegal to die in the House of Parliament..............wonder what they do to prosecute you for that????????:D

[drache]

Hmmm.......illegal to die in the House of Parliament..............wonder what they do to prosecute you for that????????:D

they probably take it out on your next of kin

but if I ever got pregnant again . . .

[Stefan-A]

they probably take it out on your next of kin
They'll probably fine you posthumously and make your heirs pay.

[adamanteus]

In Cheshire, where I live, it is still a legal requirement that any male 'of an age to bear arms', must practice with the longbow every Sunday.

[Stefan-A]

Has anybody seen any news from Finland today?

[adamanteus]

Finland has news!?:D:rolleyes:;)

[Stefan-A]

Today we do.

[anji1971]

They do -- big massacre at a school. First time it ever happened, 8 dead. Not pretty news.:(

[Stefan-A]

9 dead, the shooter died about an hour ago.

[adamanteus]

Ooops, sorry. I hadn't heard. Was it children who were shot?

[anji1971]

Stefan, is this anywhere near you, or anyone you know go to that school?? I sure hope not!

[Stefan-A]

I don't know exactly how old they were. junior high and high school kids go to school there. 5 boys, 2 girls and the female principal were killed.

No, it wasn't that close. Maybe 150km from where I'm now.

[adamanteus]

Did the shooter kill himself or did the police get him?

[Stefan-A]

Shot himself with his .22 pistol, lived for 9-10 hours.

[adamanteus]

What drives people to do these shocking things. It always leaves me sad.

[anji1971]

This is really quite sad, countries like Finland are some of the few left that you don't hear about this kind of thing. It always makes me feel sick inside when I hear news like this, anywhere. Especially being a parent!

[Stefan-A]

Well, he was apparently on some kind of medication, so he obviously had some mental problems in his past.

[anji1971]

Apparently, he put a video warning up on YouTube, too. Does sound like someone with serious mental issues indeed.:eek:

[Stefan-A]

The scary part is that there aren't really any ways to prevent massacres like this. And of course everybody is looking for something to blame and it's the same old song as after Columbine and Virginia Tech.

[anji1971]

Very true, that's why we just have to hope and pray that it doesn't. Although here in Canada, I think we could use better care for the mentally ill -- they tend to fall through the cracks, and not always get the attention they need until they do something like this. We've had this type of thing go on before, and in the US it seems to be happening more frequently all the time. But I guess it's not always that simple a solution.......

[adamanteus]

Indeed, a school would be an easy target if you choose to do something like this. I remember the Dunblane massacre here in the UK. It just leaves you dumfounded. I can't begin to imagine what the parents who lost children are feeling right now. It's sickening.

[anji1971]

Yes, and my heart and prayers go out to every family in Finland affected by this tragedy. And right now I'm going to go give my kids a big hug just because!

[adamanteus]

And right now I'm going to go give my kids a big hug just because!

I might go look in on Molly, although she's fast asleep in bed.

[Lori P]

Such an unspeakable thing... and seems to be more and more common lately. I keep trying to talk my sister into homeschooling her baby when the time comes... I'm already scared for her to send him off to public school!!

[drache]

Such an unspeakable thing... and seems to be more and more common lately. I keep trying to talk my sister into homeschooling her baby when the time comes... I'm already scared for her to send him off to public school!!

I think it's horrible when it happens, but I don't think of it as becoming more common
we know very little about homicidal maniacs and disturbed individuals of the past, because they were never publicized like they are today to serve as inspiration to other deranged individuals
the same persons may have chosen different, equally horrible actions, if they hadn't known about this particular method of getting back at the world
there is no way to guarantee absolute safety for our children
the likelyhood of encountering a shooter in public school is no higher than many other places

[zooplan]

I´m scared to hear about one killing spree after another but....
We have to hear about all this kind around the world and hear nothing about hundreds or thousands of schools without such trouble!

[adamanteus]

We have to hear about all this kind around the world and hear nothing about hundreds or thousands of schools without such trouble!

So true, the media love a good blood-fest!:mad:

[Stefan-A]

And afterwards, every news report includes an interview with some hack psychologist, who always seem to me to be full of you-know-what. Can't they just admit that they don't have a bloody clue what happened to that guy or how to prevent things like this from happening? Frankly, I'm *this* close to starting to consider psychology a pseudo-science, because of them.

[drache]

just remember that the more common ways to get killed don't make much of a story

Alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes kill someone every 31 minutes and nonfatally injure someone every two minutes(NHTSA 2006).

that's more kids in a month than ten years worth of school shootings
it's no less of a tragedy and possibly more preventable
(not to minimize the tragedy of school shootings)

[Lori P]

Oooooh guys... I think I just realized why I like snakes... they don't have hooves!!!! LOL

Just got kicked slam in the chin by the previosly (well, still) wild mustang we have here... luckily, I was standing very close behind him, or I wouldn't be laughing about it now!! I was walking past him to turn on the water, and for some reason, today was the day that someone walking behind him freaked him out. I must say, he has quite an upper cut. Being a nice, peaceful girl, I've never been hit in the face... you know, never been in a bar fight... interesting experience.

Owweee. Now have a ringing headache. And will have a lovely bruise tomorrow. But hey-- for the first and possibly only time in my life, I'll get to say:

"Yeah-- but you should see the other guy!" :o

[anji1971]

OOOUUUCHHH!!!! Now I know why I've never really been a big fan of horses! Beautiful to look at, but they scare the hell out of me up close. And besides, they don't fight fair, kicking you when you're not looking, or stepping on your feet and just standing there grinning, like the one I met in my younger days!

[Lulu Bennett]

lori, unlucky! just be glad it wasn't worse than a ringing headache. you could have been seriously injured from that but i am really glad you wasn't

[Lori P]

Yeah... not as glib about the whole thing as I was earlier. My whole upper body hurts, my neck and back are killing me, my headache is here to stay, and I've been nauseous all day. Porbably a wee bit of a concussion. Not taking a pain killer as I'm trying to stay awake. Ugh. Tomorrow will be a better day... I hope :-)

The mustang should not be here, truly, as I'm not qualified to deal with him. But there was nowhere else for him to go... and we still have not found anyone else to take him on. He's a bit of a problem, thru no fault of his own... he was wild caught by the BLM, then one of the hundreds that gets adopted out to the wrong people. He was badly abused for 2 years. So he's not only wild, he's abused wild... the poor guy, none of this is his fault. If there was some way I could send him to a sancutary to live out his days as a wild horse again, I would, but the sanctuaries are all full... I keep trying tho.

Anyway... not the first time, won't be the last I get kicked!! :(

[enigma200316]

Yeah... not as glib about the whole thing as I was earlier. My whole upper body hurts, my neck and back are killing me, my headache is here to stay, and I've been nauseous all day. Porbably a wee bit of a concussion. Not taking a pain killer as I'm trying to stay awake. Ugh. Tomorrow will be a better day... I hope :-)

The mustang should not be here, truly, as I'm not qualified to deal with him. But there was nowhere else for him to go... and we still have not found anyone else to take him on. He's a bit of a problem, thru no fault of his own... he was wild caught by the BLM, then one of the hundreds that gets adopted out to the wrong people. He was badly abused for 2 years. So he's not only wild, he's abused wild... the poor guy, none of this is his fault. If there was some way I could send him to a sancutary to live out his days as a wild horse again, I would, but the sanctuaries are all full... I keep trying tho.

Anyway... not the first time, won't be the last I get kicked!! :(


Lori, upper body pain, bad headache that won't go away, nausea, and sleepyness, fatigue is a sign of severe concussion...........:eek: you should see a Doctor..........its not something to over look......I've seen many in sports, and even know of some one who has died because they put it off like no big deal...........I'm not a Doctor, but think you should see one....:)

p.s. may even have a little whip lash!!!

[Lori P]

Justin... I pretty much have to be bleeding from the eyes before I'll go to the doctor... lol. But if I'm not better tomorrow I'll go. I just don't feel like he hit me hard enough for a bad concussion. I'm going more with the whiplash idea... thanks so much for your concern... :-) :-)

[drache]

Lori
make sure you take good care of your head and neck
those are important body parts
I'm curious - how is that mustang with other horses?
perhaps you've got some matronly mare you could stick him with?

[Lori P]

Rhea-- he is fine with the other horses-- as long as they are healthy. He is a demon to new rescues coming in (typical wild horse-- he protects his herd with a vengence, chases off the weak ones). My last matronly type mare passed away a while back, and he has bonded very tightly to one of the geldings over the younger mares which I think is interesting. Here's his story if you're interested:

(Gunny)Page Title (http://www.newhoperescueva.com/Gunny.html)

He's come a long way working in the round pen, but it's me who doesn't know how to take him further. And once out of the round pen, he's back to the wild mustang... it doesn't carry over. I really would love to find a sanctuary where he can just be free of humans... which seems to be his preference. I wonder how many more of the BLM mustangs end up like Gunny...

[drache]

thanks Lori
what a story - poor guy
not many places they let a horse roam any more
why does the BLM catch them anyway?
is it a space thing or are they raising money selling these horses?

[Lori P]

Rhea, I think it's mostly a population control program. I don't think they make any money off of adoptions, as the fees are so low. But it's a government program so who knows what the whole story is. My thinking is-- if they are rounding them up anyway-- why not geld the stallions and sterilize the mares and turn them back out?? I'd think a birth control program would be better... they'd always miss a few so the herds would still reproduce, just not as quickly...

[drache]

My thinking is-- if they are rounding them up anyway-- why not geld the stallions and sterilize the mares and turn them back out?? I'd think a birth control program would be better... they'd always miss a few so the herds would still reproduce, just not as quickly...

that does sound like a much better idea
I have some others, but they're all in the utopian realm (requiring humans to change)

[Lori P]

Oh, yeah, good luck with THAT!!!

On a snakey note, Mordecai is getting ready to shed again!! He just shed on Oct 28th. He must be having a growth spurt! Grow, Mordecai, grow!!!

[enigma200316]

Justin... I pretty much have to be bleeding from the eyes before I'll go to the doctor... lol. But if I'm not better tomorrow I'll go. I just don't feel like he hit me hard enough for a bad concussion. I'm going more with the whiplash idea... thanks so much for your concern... :-) :-)


just be careful, its better to be safe than sorry..........:)

[Lulu Bennett]

Justin... I pretty much have to be bleeding from the eyes before I'll go to the doctor... lol. But if I'm not better tomorrow I'll go. I just don't feel like he hit me hard enough for a bad concussion. I'm going more with the whiplash idea... thanks so much for your concern... :-) :-)
i agree with Justin on this one i am afraid. you should go and see a Dr and let us know what was said.

[zooplan]

Best wishes Lori,
hope to read better news about you soon.
Had a look to the story of Gunny: very impressing photos and less text, so it was easy to understand for me.;)
Hope you can find a nice place for him.
Don´t feed Mordecai too much therewith he won´t grow to an Anaconda.

[drache]

don't tell me - with proper nutrition my garters can grow to be anacondas???
I think Sammy might have heard that
she keeps asking for more

[anji1971]

I don't know about anaconda-sized, but have you seen the pics of Brandon's garters? They appear to be well on their way..........!:D

[drache]

yeah - Brandon's are getting there
compare here:
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/general-talk/138-biggest-garters.html
exept I just realized that a lot of the pics aren't accessible any longer
how does that happen?

[anji1971]

I couldn't see most of the photos, it does seem to happen a lot. The one's that still are there are quite impressive, though. Thanks for putting that link up Rhea, I still haven't been able to get through all the old threads from before I joined, and I miss a lot while browsing through them too.
I hope Deejay grows to be 53 inches long someday...........:D

[Lori P]

Don´t feed Mordecai too much therewith he won´t grow to an Anaconda.

LOL Udo!! That is my evil plan... Mordecai shall someday rule the Earth!! :D

[enigma200316]

LOL Udo!! That is my evil plan... Mordecai shall someday rule the Earth!! :D


Lori, you must have got a bump on the head or something, your delusional...:D

[Lori P]

And all who oppose him shall be eaten.. so tread gently Justin!!!

Bump? What bump? What head??? :-)

[anji1971]

LOL Udo!! That is my evil plan... Mordecai shall someday rule the Earth!! :D


Who knows........maybe Mordecai could do a better job than some of those who are currently trying to rule the earth. Hmmmmm...............;)

[zooplan]

...exept I just realized that a lot of the pics aren't accessible any longer
how does that happen?
The pictures can not be found when place or name is changed.

Maybe the wolrd is still ruled by Mordecai but nobody knows?

[Stefan-A]

Great. My local pet shop has apparently phased out all exotic pets. They haven't been replacing the animals they've sold, I've actually been waiting for months for them to put something in all those empty terrariums. Well, last time I visited, they were again using the terrariums, but they were housing some bloody hamsters in them. I don't know if it's because they're a part of a chain now, but it's been going down hill ever since.

Let's see how long it takes before they stop selling frozen rodents, meal worms and crickets.

[adamanteus]

Great. My local pet shop has apparently phased out all exotic pets. They haven't been replacing the animals they've sold, I've actually been waiting for months for them to put something in all those empty terrariums. Well, last time I visited, they were again using the terrariums, but they were housing some bloody hamsters in them. I don't know if it's because they're a part of a chain now, but it's been going down hill ever since.

Let's see how long it takes before they stop selling frozen rodents, meal worms and crickets.


Sounds like an available niche for an exotic pet shop in your neighbourhood, Stefan!:rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

Sounds like an available niche for an exotic pet shop in your neighbourhood, Stefan!:rolleyes:
I came to the opposite conclusion. :rolleyes: Considering how long it took for them to move the reptiles they had, I'd say there's no way to make it profitable in a town this small.

[adamanteus]

I was being sarcastic, Stefan!

[Stefan-A]

Oh, I thought you were just making a humorous suggestion that wasn't intended to be taken seriously. :D

[adamanteus]

Yeah, that's right. That's what it was!:D

[Stefan-A]

...so I focused on the conclusion that there would be a niche, not the suggestion that maybe I should exploit it. :D

[adamanteus]

I wasn't suggesting you should exploit the niche. It would perhaps be better suited to a wide-eyed, optimistic dreamer, with no real business accumen or grasp on the finer points of supply and demand in the cut-throat world of commerce.

Such as myself!

[zooplan]

How small is your town, Stefan?
Here we have some pet shops that make people go for miles to visit.

[Stefan-A]

About 48,000 people live here, but that doesn't include people in the smaller surrounding towns and villages.

The 17th largest municipality in Finland. Coincidentally, I study in the city that's ranked 71.

[zooplan]

We have well working pet stores in smaller towns like that!
Do you have less herpetoculturists in Finnland?;)

[zooplan]

500 500 500:d

[Stefan-A]

We have well working pet stores in smaller towns like that!
Do you have less herpetoculturists in Finnland?;)
Yes, we do. :rolleyes: A lot less.

You used to be able to find herps in the city where I study, which has a population of just over 14,000. It went out of business a few years ago. So did the two pet stores we used to have in my home town when I started keeping herps in the late 80's.

As far as I can tell, the closest pet store that sells herps (or should I say: over-priced corn snakes) is 50km away. Doesn't keep garters, but will order them, which would otherwise be nice, except for the fact that you need to contact them well in advance and you'll never know what they'll get.

[zooplan]

A pet shop is definetly the wrong place to look for garters in Germany because there are so many private breeders who take much better care of them and have more rare species or morphs as well.

[Stefan-A]

Here, the right place to look for garters, is Germany. :p

[zooplan]

when will you come?

[Stefan-A]

I wish I knew.

[zooplan]

You just have to decide;)
students are know to be free like the wind:D

[Stefan-A]

Yeah, but I'm too old to be a student anyway. :D I never really enjoyed travelling, either. And it's too damn expensive. ;)

[Lori P]

Speaking of traveling, my mom, aunt and sister got back from Germany Friday and I am basking in the glory of good German chocolates.... :-) :-) At least, I think there's still a few left... lol! So if you all don't see me for a while I'm in a chocolate coma... :-)

[anji1971]

That's what's so wonderful about places like that..........the beautiful countryside, the chocolate, the friendly people, the chocolate, the history, the chocolate.......:p

[adamanteus]

Right, I have to go and watch 'I'm a celebrity....Get me out of here'! Be back in an hour!:)

[Lulu Bennett]

Right, I have to go and watch 'I'm a celebrity....Get me out of here'! Be back in an hour!:)

OH DEAR!!!!! I was watching that before and it bored me. I was ready from hanging myself from the celling light.

[adamanteus]

I didn't say I was going to enjoy it.... only that I had to watch it!
Anyway Guys, as much as I'm enjoying our multi-faceted conversations, I must go to bed.....work tomorrow. Oh, joy!:rolleyes:

[Morph]

hello once again from the realms of the internet cafe. oh how i love this place.

[Lulu Bennett]

Morph, Dude, welcome back, we missed you! :D:D:D

[Morph]

i missed everyone too.... life just aint the same without a forum full of snake lovers to brighten up the dreary hours of the day

[Lulu Bennett]

how are you and the snakes? are you coming to hamm in sept?

[zooplan]

would like to send here some hours, but have to go to the office now;)
It´s so funny to see people from different time areas gomming together on a virtual place:D