Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[Steveo]

We got a good rain yesterday and as I was hustling from the bus stop back to my apartment I counted 97 worms on the sidewalk. I'm sure there were more but I was moving quickly. I wanted to collect them and feed them to my garters, but the apartment manager puts down herbicide every spring, so they're going to dry out and die instead.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Anyone got an idea of what this is a fossil of?
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What ever it is/was ,it's the last thing I thought I'd find while digging for worms.

[CrazyHedgehog]

looks like a jellyfish

[Stefan-A]

Mollusc, plant, maybe coral. Not a clue.

[guidofatherof5]

What a blessing to have good friends. I'm very capable working on engines and computers. When it comes to wood/drywall or anything that requires measuring and cutting my brain takes a nap.
I can cut a board 3 times and it will still be too short "ba-dum-TSH"
Today, a good friend came over and finished putting a shower back together for me. He made it look so easy. He had the tools and the talent.

Good friends are priceless.

[Chulio]

That's so funny. I could fix almost anything mechanical or electronic but finish carpentry is a no go. I could never plane a board straight in woodshop

[scott5017]

8783
Ill just leave this here.

[guidofatherof5]

8783
Ill just leave this here.

Love it.

[StrmChasr]

8784

[angrygamer]

What a blessing to have good friends. I'm very capable working on engines and computers. When it comes to wood/drywall or anything that requires measuring and cutting my brain takes a nap.
I can cut a board 3 times and it will still be too short "ba-dum-TSH"
Today, a good friend came over and finished putting a shower back together for me. He made it look so easy. He had the tools and the talent.

Good friends are priceless.

I'm pretty much in the same boat, I'm not good with measuring and I'm not good with wood in general...at least when it comes to the finer points of wood. I'm work with metal much better.

My brother can take a pair of scissors and make the finest, straightest cut on a piece of paper. When he does, I just sit there and look amazed.

[guidofatherof5]

The funniest thing you won't see.

About a week ago I shot a video of Speckle being fed. I used an old camcorder that transfers through firewire (iEEE 1394) The only computer I have that can possibly do the job is old and in storage. In any event here's what happened.

As I approached Speckle's paddock my dog Lucy was right with me. She keeps and eye on the snakes while I feed and alerts me to anyone getting out. Lucky has some history with this paddock as she's been bitten on the nose by Speckle a few times. Speckle doesn't like Lucy and will go after her if she get too close. As I open the door(lower hinge) a gap is created at the bottom of the door. Lucy was getting in position to watch when I reminded her that Speckle was near. The gap was all Speckle needed and she was out in a shot and tagged Lucy right on the nose. This all happened in a matter of seconds. I barely had time to warn Lucy and it was over. Speckle retreated and enjoyed her food.
I had to laugh at poor Lucy and applaud Speckle for her resolve. She doesn't like Lucy and lets her know it.:D

I will see if I can get the video off and posted. I tried a iEEE to USB adapter but it didn't work.

[mustang]

guess who just got hired as a first semester freshman as a full time research assistant managing longleaf pine stands in east texas? :D MMMEEE!!!

[guidofatherof5]

Congrats.

[mustang]

thanks

[Invisible Snake]

Saw this being shared on FB ...

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Broad banded water snake :O

[Chulio]

Great news on the job


Nice snake pic

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Congrats!!!
guess who just got hired as a first semester freshman as a full time research assistant managing longleaf pine stands in east texas? :d mmmeee!!!

[indigoman]

Very happy for you! Way to go.

[guidofatherof5]

Let's play,
Name That Injury

Here's a photo of my Gabby. She was injured at school today.
Gabby is fine with nothing broken.
Can you guess how this happened?

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/gabby3.jpg

[Lowfur]

Ouch! Baseball to the eyeball? Glad she's ok!

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Glad she's ok steve! It's amazing how you can see where the laces were on the ball!

[guidofatherof5]

Got some substantial bleeding into the eye this morning. Looks like a trip back to the doctor.

[gregmonsta]

Fingers crossed for her Steve.

[Steveo]

Oy, I took a ball to the eye like that once. Not fun. I hope everything's alright.

[guidofatherof5]

Just back from the Dr. Normal damage and nothing else going on. Very swollen but no change to her vision so the injury will have to run its course.

[chris-uk]

That's a fantastic shiner Steve. Something to show off for a week or two.
Glad it's not too serious an injury.

[ConcinusMan]

I'm back. I know everyone missed me dearly. :rolleyes:

Had a little stay in the hospital following emergency surgery on my left elbow. Had some minor trauma to it about 2 weeks ago that quickly got infected with strep. Went to ER with compartment syndrome so they had to operate right away to save my arm. All is well now, healing nicely. It's just that I now have a huge hole in my arm that has to be packed daily until it heals. Fun stuff.:D

[gregmonsta]

Lucky save there Richard. Hope it heals quickly!!!

[guidofatherof5]

Guess we can't count on you pitching at the annual Thamnophis softball game this year.:D
Hope it heals well for you.

[ConcinusMan]

Appropriate weather for the duration of the healing period. March weather. Pouring rain, windy, around 51 degrees, snowing at 5,000 feet. Nice.:cool:

[Steveo]

At least you're not stuck at home when it's 75 and sunny!

[Sonya610]

Got some substantial bleeding into the eye this morning. Looks like a trip back to the doctor.

Blood in the eye triggers sleepiness in many humans. Just fyi.

[Mommy2many]

Sorry to hear about Gabby and Richard! Glad to hear it is all going to work out.

[ConcinusMan]

Less than 2 hours ago, an Interstate 5 bridge in WA State collapsed into the Skagit River taking occupied vehicles with it. The interstate is closed in both directions and traffic is backed up for hundreds of miles.

I-5 bridge over Skagit River collapses, cars with people in water | KING5.com Seattle (http://www.king5.com/news/local/Report-I-5-bridge-collapses-over-Skagit-River-cars-in-water-208758631.html)

[Chulio]

I hope Gabby has a good recovery. From somebody with more than his share of black eyes I know it takes a little while and puts on a nice color show too.

[guidofatherof5]

It's still turning purple but school is out for them so she has the Summer to recover.

[ConcinusMan]

Both my grandfathers were native American and I have Cherokee roots from Oklahoma. Family was effected by the tornadoes and at least one is near death. Mom is flying into Oklahoma City tomorrow. Airlines are all booked solid due to relief efforts. Even the majority of flights out of Portland and ending in OK are booked by people helping with relief efforts.

[Mommy2many]

Richard, so sorry to hear about your family.

[Selkielass]

My sympathy to all with family and health issues.
I hope all healing is smooth and swift.

On the good news front, I adopted a dog from the pound last week!
She's still somewhat traumatized by all the changes in her life, but she's facing this strange new world gamely and with admirable bravery.
She's still showing great promise toward becoming a therapy dog.
https://m.facebook.com/pages/Lapeers-Adoptable-Animals/267166810020812?id=267166810020812&_rdr#!/267166810020812/timeline/story?ut=69&hash=1275317279487017811&wstart=0&wend=1370069999&pagefilter=1&ustart&__user=100003224738857

[mustang]

Sooo im leaving tomorrow.. checker is staying home till fall, they'll be watching me like a hawk over the summer XD turns out i didnt find any of the million signs saying they were gonna do a room search over easter and i left him in there.

[guidofatherof5]

Reading is good.:D

[ConcinusMan]

Finally it quit raining. It's been downright cold and very wet the past couple of weeks. We had early march temperatures and in the last 10 days we got more rain than Feb and March combined. Wow. All over now and returning to 80's soon.

[Didymus20X6]

I just caught my third Florida White Oak Rat Snake. I was about a mile from my mother's house, and he was just lying in the middle of the road. At first, I thought he was dead, but when I stopped to get a look at him, he was perfectly healthy. He was a good five-footer, too! I gently coaxed him into my butterfly net and let him go by the side of the road, where there were some trees and tall grass for him to enjoy.

I wish I had thought to get a picture of him, but the last time I took pics of one of these guys, you could barely see him, they blend in so well with the road top. But he was a pretty one.

[Invisible Snake]

The weather in the Northeast has been around the 90's, most of my garters are spending most of the day in their water bowls.

Is this happening to anyone else?

[guidofatherof5]

Highs in the 70's to low 80's. Just came off a night at 46°.

[Lowfur]

I would love some 70-80 degree weather! It's been 93+ here for the last week or so since all Those thunderstorms rolled through.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I hope the wild scrubs have a better time of it than last Summer

[Invisible Snake]

Saw this on my FB newsfeed, thought I'd share it with you guys.

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[guidofatherof5]

Too bad the eagles can't shoot back.

[Boots]

That is both amazing and so sad at the same time. What a majestic bird.

Jason

[chris-uk]

Disgraceful that anyone would shoot at an eagle, but then again in the UK pigeon racers happily put poisoned bait out for falcons and are happy to kill peregrine falcons.

Great to see the reconstruction, they should have done it in titanium - robo-eagle.

[Steveo]

Wow. They must have found it quickly. Raptors can starve to death in just a few days.

The nonprofit I volunteer for has a rough-legged hawk that was shot and had part of a wing amputated. Some farmers will shoot any raptor regardless of whether they'd eat a chicken or not.

[ConcinusMan]

Happy Birthday Don Belnap!

[ConcinusMan]

Check out Shannon (asnakelovinbabe) what a great photo!

http://i41.tinypic.com/2u7ssxk.jpg

[chris-uk]

Sometimes the little things make you smile.

I just called one of my girls a stomach on legs before realising my error.

[NickB]

Check out Shannon (asnakelovinbabe) what a great photo!

http://i41.tinypic.com/2u7ssxk.jpg

That's hilarious! I so want to mimic this photo but I don't really have any snakes atm that gape or even aggressive snakes for that matter.

[angrygamer]

Check out Shannon (asnakelovinbabe) what a great photo!

http://i41.tinypic.com/2u7ssxk.jpg

Wow, that's a scary picture.

[guidofatherof5]

So I thought those long nights up with sick children were over. My youngest being 12, they all do a great job of getting to bed and staying there.
Last night was a different story as my turtle Son Tank had a restless night. He didn't want to be in his water but then again he didn't want to be out of it. I'm guessing he had an upset belly and couldn't get comfortable. At 3am I was exhausted and wanted to sleep so I got forceful with Tank, forcing him to stay in his blanket in the hopes he would tire out and fall asleep.
Have you ever tried to force your will on a 23+ pound snapping turtle? Trust me, it doesn't work. What a powerful animal. During all this wrestling he never got angry at me. He finally settled back into his water and I went to bed at 5am. I went to bed and got up at 6:30am. Short night.

[Steveo]

Me: I'd really like to open up a pet shop some day. There's only a handful in the metro area I see a lot of complaints about them. You can't even get frozen feeders locally.
Wife: Great. Once you get that going, you can open my glow-in-the-dark minigolf business.
Me: Yeah ok. All these business books I'm reading say to try operating part time first before quitting your job.
Wife: That makes sense.
Me: I suppose the best way to start is by learning to breed my own stock. I should also buy some enclosures from different companies to see which I like best.
Wife: .................................................. ....................................

[guidofatherof5]

Humans too get to eat on the Ranch. Lunch today was grilled chicken with grilled veggies (cabbage, vidallia onions and broccoli) .
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//821/medium/ranch_lunch.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

The first day of Summer is here in Iowa. The forecast for the next 7 days is calling for temps in the mid to high 90's everyday. 3 months of heat is on its way.

[RedSidedSPR]

It's been reaching 90 here for a month.

[guidofatherof5]

Anyone else notice are newest member Dominoscoupons. I wonder if that's a spammer:D

[RedSidedSPR]

Nah.

[ConcinusMan]

Well crap. I was bragging in April how it was 80's here for most of the month when it's usually 60's but for the past month and in the immediate forecast it's quite cloudy, showers heavy at times and low 70's at the warmest. Feels like a mild spring, not summer. :cool: Somebody went and switched the April and June weather. I just hope the 4th of July isn't windy and 48 degrees like it was in 2011. We had to wear sweatshirts or coats for the fireworks for cryin' out loud. We just can't win. The 4th is always either unbearably hot or it pours rain and/or it's downright cold. Take your pick.

Back to why I originally came here to this thread. Somebody posted on the facebook garter group, an eastern garter (I think) with a blood red dorsal stripe found in a Springfield MO residential yard. Thing is incredible. go take a look.

[ProXimuS]

So, is it just me, or is anybody else having trouble with starting a new line of text? Like when I push enter it does nothing. If I type longer than one line, it jumps down by itself, but if I try to do it, it won't let me. It's been doing that to me for a while.

[ConcinusMan]

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Apparently I'm not having that problem

[mikem]

Emily, here's a thread about the same issue BLUESIRTALIS was having. I don't know if he ever found a solution. http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/forum-bugs/12584-posting-issues.html

[RedSidedSPR]

I
have
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such
problems

[BLUESIRTALIS]

I still have this problem so i just try to work around it, but it is a pain though! It also makes it harder to post multiple pics at once. I hope the mods can come up with a solution on this.
emily, here's a thread about the same issue bluesirtalis was having. I don't know if he ever found a solution. http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/forum-bugs/12584-posting-issues.html

[BLUESIRTALIS]

You're not alone!
so, is it just me, or is anybody else having trouble with starting a new line of text? Like when i push enter it does nothing. If i type longer than one line, it jumps down by itself, but if i try to do it, it won't let me. It's been doing that to me for a while.

[ProXimuS]

Yea it just started out of nowhere like a month or two ago...It's a little annoying when trying to post pics and multiple paragraphs....

[ConcinusMan]

A new member came on and said that they are having the same problem. I'm fairly confident the problem is your ends although I don't know what it could be. I'm using firefox 21 with just a few settings different from the default and it doesn't give me any problems anywhere. Can't say that about internet destroyer, I mean explorer and it's craptiveX, I mean, activeX.

[ProXimuS]

Yea I've seen some people saying they use Firefox and don't have the problem. I also read that the new person is using Internet Explorer, which is what I'm using...Might be the problem :rolleyes:

[ConcinusMan]

Ditch it would be my advice. Once you try firefox and see what add-on's , skins, etc they have and see how well it performs consistently, you'll wonder why you didn't do it years ago like the majority and myself did. I would uninstall IE completely if it, or components of it wasn't needed by the OS for certain things. For example, a manual windows update. ActiveX controls are slow, buggy and insecure. Firefox doesn't use activeX at all. Everything just works better.

[EasternGirl]

Hi everyone...it's been a long time! I guess most of you read my post about Sammy's passing. Still very sad about that. All the other snakes are doing well. I finished my first clinical semester of nursing school...which was completely insane. Second semester is supposed to be the worst. I have to do two semesters in a row with no break this year...so I should be thoroughly ready for the nut hut when that is over. I have been so busy with my son...baseball season just ended and he was picked for the All Stars this year! That is a league made up of the best kids in the state...the teams are divided into county divisions and we play against each other and try to move into playing against teams from other states. I also got a job...I think. I was offered a very good job as a counselor at a psych hospital. It's the perfect job because it is master's level, so it pays great...and I can make my own schedule around nursing school. But now I can't get my supervisor to call me back to set up my schedule...so I am starting to wonder what is going on. Other than that, everything is good. I hope all of you are doing well...looking forward to catching up with all of you this summer!

[ConcinusMan]

Another soggy day. *sigh*

[RedSidedSPR]

The hell is the point of this big creek and 10 acres of woods near my house. I feel like I am literally the only living thing on the planet. Even the plants here are lifeless. Kind of like the 4 snakes I've found. As in, they were dead. 2 ring necks and 2 copperheads. Oh yeah, and a baby green snake. also dead. So that's 5 dead snakes. Not one live reptile or amphibian have I found in almost 2 years, save one or two toads and maybe a lizard.

[ConcinusMan]

If there was only one living reptile in your entire area, I would find it, if it didn't find me first. :D

You're talking to a guy that found snakes this spring downtown and this isn't no little town. It's a big city. I would find it if it was the only living reptile around, and was a green snake. In the Amazon. At night. OK that's a slight exaggeration but you get my point.

[RedSidedSPR]

You probably would, but i'd have to see it to believe it lol. This place is lifeless.

[ConcinusMan]

Obviously not if you find dead snakes. My herping spots are just teeming with snakes but I know if I went out looking only in the summer between the hours of 11am to around 5:30 pm I wouldn't find a single one.

[RedSidedSPR]

Obviously not if you find dead snakes.

But see, dead snakes are lifeless. :p

Yeah I look at like 6:00am or 6:00pm. Or later in the night.

i know there's snakes here, 2 years of not finding one just doesn't help my confidence. Lol

[ConcinusMan]

But see, dead snakes are lifeless.

i know there's snakes here

Brilliant conclusion. Here's another one for you and it only cost a million dollars to do the research.:rolleyes:


Poverty linked to not having any money (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/poverty-linked-to-not-having-any-money-2013021559851)

[RedSidedSPR]

Man... Ill never believe anything again.

[RedSidedSPR]

Went to a park I never knew about, walked through a bunch of tall grass and a pond, and all that stuff for like 2 hours.. Fruitless.

Then I found a little river behind a McDonalds. Saw a water snake go under a rock. Cussed a lot. Took my shoes off. Stuck my hand under the rock. Felt nothing. Waited. Looked for more. Went home.



http://i.imgur.com/4Kx0ZWQ.gif

[guidofatherof5]

I went into my backyard today and held 8 wild snakes.:p Got so tired of seeing snakes I went back in the house (not really)

[RedSidedSPR]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1384167/yuck_imdone.gif

[RedSidedSPR]

Went back to the park, found an Eastern and three Brown snakes, two of them full of babies. Needles to say I'll be going back there.

[Stefan-A]

Went back to the park, found an Eastern and three Brown snakes, two of them full of babies. Needles to say I'll be going back there.
Note to self: Stop skimming texts for key words.

[RedSidedSPR]

Lol. That was poorly written on my part.

[Steveo]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1384167/yuck_imdone.gif

the variation that I use at work:
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/314/663/9de.gif

[guidofatherof5]

Hit some yard sales yesterday and today. Nothing but bargains everywhere. Spent $3 on two, new in the box light fixtures that would have cost $100 anywhere else.
Started paperwork on refinancing my home. Dropped 2% points on interest, cut 6 years off the loan and got it all done for $1000. My house payment only went up $20 a month.
Going to save $56,000 in interest charges by shortening the loan.
It has been a good couple of days.

[ConcinusMan]

Wow, nice move. I'm glad I got out from under it when i did. If I'd waited any longer I would have had to sell my interest in the property and I still would owe money on it. My brother bought a house before the market collapse and now owes $80,000 more than it's worth. Yikes. That's why he hasn't paid the mortgage in 6 months and instead is saving the monthly house bill so they can move out and rent . He want's them to foreclose on it and wipe his debt.

[ConcinusMan]

Very interesting... No wonder rich people can be such pricks. I have an aunt who is that way. Feels entitled and is always offering advice on what to do about certain things while completely ignoring the fact that we can't afford to do those things. She has a hard time understanding that people who aren't loaded can't do that. our hands are tied. But do you think she would spare just a few hundred dollars to help out so we could? Oh hell no. that's out of the question.:rolleyes: We never asked, but when we say that we can't afford it, she doesn't offer financial help either. Somehow she has it through her head that we just don't work hard enough and don't spend wisely and that's why we're poor. Fine attitude coming from someone who makes more in a day than we make working our butts off for a month, and spends more on a foot massage than we do on groceries.


Take Two 'Normal' People, Add Money To Just One Of Them, And Watch What Happens Next (http://www.upworthy.com/take-two-normal-people-add-money-to-just-one-of-them-and-watch-what-happens-next)

[guidofatherof5]

Scored at another yard sale yesterday. Walked into the garage and saw a very new HP desktop computer and monitor(still being sold at retail stores). It came preloaded with Win 7 so I knew it wasn't that old. Picked it up for $20. Granted it's at the bottom of the line for the Pavilion series but it's up and running and appears stable. Going to wipe it out and start from scratch.
It will make a nice computer for my quarantine room.
Gotta love them yard sales.

[chris-uk]

$20 wouldn't buy a Windows 7 license (even if it can't be transferred to another machine). Nice buy.

[ConcinusMan]

Going to wipe it out and start from scratch.
.

I take it you have the license key sticker and restoration CD's?? Unfortunately, using those on an HP and "starting from scratch" usually means loading it up with a bunch of garbage pre-installed software which insists on loading at startup and hogging memory. Then I gotta go in and clean it up (which speeds it up and runs better) even if it's new. They come "pre-cluttered" lol.

In terms of time spent I'm better off installing from any Windows 7 disk/key, (version must be the same) do not activate, then change key to match the license on the PC and activate. :cool:

[guidofatherof5]

Just got my $20 new/used desktop computer all situated in the quarantine room. It has what I need and nothing more.
Running Firefox, Thunderbird(email program) and Skype.
I have $35 invested and they still sell new for $350. I would have to say the yard sale gods have been good to me.

[jwolfe152]

can a wild garter sneak into the quarantine room?

[guidofatherof5]

can a wild garter sneak into the quarantine room?


Usually only the ones with medical needs and no insurance.:D

The whole basement is open to them all.

[jwolfe152]

ok are all the ide slots covered on the back and all the fan stuff covered good. would hate to see a perfectly good garter and pc shorted over a small opening somewhere. its not like its a microscope lol

[guidofatherof5]

They usually spend much of their time around the fridge.:rolleyes:

[jwolfe152]

that figures..so far Amaunet is scared to death of worms and pinky mice

[guidofatherof5]

Got a kick out of this video. Had to post it up.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfcsReyMaz8

[jwolfe152]

wow those kids were all excited and the lizard just thought yum

[kerensa]

I'm curious as to what healthy foods/meals others are making having.... whatever?

I recently found out I'm allergic to one of the proteins in cow milk... so there goes cheese from my diet. This really shakes up my diet/world alot more than I thought it would.

My dinner tonight is a orientalish soup. I stated on the stove with a few cups of water and a table spoon of miso paste -the red bean variety. and in my bowl I dropped 4 snap pea pods, a bit of enoki mushrooms, a few square inches of the fresh kelp, a slice of tofu and a table spoon or so of fresh carrot slivered... and a teaspoon of basil and chili paste (thai) and poured the very hot miso over it all, and tucked an ounce of bean threads (cellophane type) into the bowl to cook, and garnished everything with a sprig or two of water cress. It is satisfying, and fairly healthy, but I always welcome other ideas...

Later tonight I will mae soy milk, tofu and then patties with the okara that results. These are a fairly rich patty spiced with Korean style bar-b-que sauce, that I used to eat as an open faced sandwich with sour cream, tomato, thick sliced onion, swiss cheese and alfalfa sprouts all on a thick slab of whole wheat bread. yum. pity, both sour cream and swiss cheese are out now. :( (recipe for the soy/garden patty's available for any who wishes it)


So what are you're answers to healthy interesting meals? Or just any other food you think is worth mentioning/telling others about?


Kerensa.

edit to add: if a mod decides to move this thread about restricted diets to the meaningless chatter thread, don't bother just delete it.

[d_virginiana]

I'm vegan, so I've been figuring out what dairy substitutes are good lol. Earth balance butter tastes pretty much like margarine. Tofutti cream cheese and sour cream are okay taste-wise (the cream cheese is actually better than the milk version IMO) but the texture is a little different. Veganese tastes like miracle whip. I like unflavored rice or almond milk too.
No really good cheese substitutes though... Like, if I'm making a dip, or mixing in with something (like mashed potato) Daiya brand cheese is okay. But if you're expecting it to taste like actual cheese it'll be a let-down.

I just made some really great 7-layer dip with the sour-cream and fake-cheese tonight, and my husband and his friend who are both meat-eaters liked it. lol, even if you don't like the organization, PETA's website does have some very good recipes for no-milk dishes too.

[kerensa]

years ago I was completely baffled with stuff like the vegan baloney tofu bacon and other meat replacements meant to taste like meat. I was convinced if I wanted to eat something that tasted like a nitrate festival I knew where the deli counter was...

Now I can't have cows milk cheese I really do miss it, and want something that tastes exactly like my silton blue cheese, or swiss cheese... LOL.
I don't mind the sheep butter, other than the price. I found a goat milk cream cheese I do like, but its in 8oz packages only, and I eat maybe 2 oz a month of cream cheese... <sigh>

The places it hits me hardest is in cooking at home, I make a lot of Indian food, and used to make quite a bit of home made cheese etc. <sigh>
This really is a huge (unbelievably HUGE) adjustment. I'm the sort of crazy B- that made homemade cheese, brewed wine, beer etc, Having to depend on some company to make my food choices for me in dairy- well so far I've been leaning towards skip the dairy completely if I can't find it from a truly sustainable, healthy source.

K.

[guidofatherof5]

Felt like an absolute idiot a few minutes ago. My daughter has an Olympus digital camera she doesn't need anymore so I asked if I could try it out in the snake room.
Tonight, I was trying to use the camera but could get the flash to work. The on-screen menu wouldn't let me into any of the flash options. Every time I took a picture the flash failed to work. I was baffled and perplexed.
I asked my daughter to come down to the snake room and help me out. I explained to her the flash wouldn't popup and work. She manually popped the flash up and took a number of photos with flash. I felt like a fool.
I think I'll stick to using my Canon EOS from now on.:D

[d_virginiana]

years ago I was completely baffled with stuff like the vegan baloney tofu bacon and other meat replacements meant to taste like meat. I was convinced if I wanted to eat something that tasted like a nitrate festival I knew where the deli counter was...



Ugh, I can't stand the fake meats. They always taste disgusting, like they're trying too hard to be meat. Got a pack of fake bacon the other day just to see what it was like; It tastes exactly like the Beggin Strips I buy for my dog (come on, who hasn't tasted dog treats before? lol). I like tofu and stuff like that, but I think that's because it tastes like tofu instead of tofu-trying-to-be-beef.

Wow, I don't have the patience to cook/brew/make anything that takes more than about 20 minutes of effort. At least you're not allergic to all types of cheese :(

[kerensa]

Wow, I don't have the patience to cook/brew/make anything that takes more than about 20 minutes of effort. At least you're not allergic to all types of cheese :(

okay. I'm a freak. The fact I make my own tofu and veggie soy patties screams that... but a close look at butylated hydroxytoluene will have that effect on people: Most important hazards: Xn- Harmful. R 22 harmful if swallowed. R36/37/38 - irritating to eyes, respiratory system and skin. S02 keep out of reach of children. S07 keep container tightly closed. S22 Do not breathe dust. S26 in case of contact with eyes, rinse immediately with water and seek medical advice. s37/39 wear suitable gloves and eye/face protection. Potential uses: antioxidants, preservatives. BHT (Butylated hydroxytoluene) is a white solid of melting point 70C with mild characteristic odor. It is readily fat-soluble and sparingly water soluble and is used primarily an antioxidant additive, extending the shelf life of products with unsaturated (and especially polyunsaturated) fatty acid moieties. if you look for BHT in the grocery store, you'll have little trouble finding it...

That is just one of the refreshing little treats in food I've researched. At this point its amazing I'm even willing to eat anything.


I wouldn't have but a beggin strip in my mouth. But I wouldn't have put bacon, or fake bacon in my mouth either- So I'm just the wrong entity to seek understanding on that one from. Mind you I don't think the beggin strip was stranger than the bacon or the fake bacon. I can sort of understand if you wanted to know what you were feeding your dog... but....

[jwolfe152]

lmao thats funny. but seriously how many cameras anymore do you have to manually do anything to other than a power button. still funny though lol

[jwolfe152]

i have never tasted beggin strips but i have tasted the ones that are a lot closer to real jerky. my chihuahua Hershey wouldn't eat any kind of dog treat for the longest time after we got him (he was about 4-5 years old) so we just didnt buy them until i started seeing the milos kitchen treats and decided i would give them a shot and he loved them. well i looked at the ingredients, smelled them, and from looking at the product itself, if i had to i would eat them, if starving or whatever they actually don't look or smell that bad.

i cant stand tofu there is a thai restaurant about an hour away and they have a sample patter thing and it has fried tofu and even fried it tastes like...uhm well **** lol. no matter what kind of flavor they add to tofu, soy patties, or veggie burgers and the like it never tastes right. i honestly think i would eat those milos kitchen dog treats before i ate tofu again lol

[kerensa]

no matter what kind of flavor they add to tofu, soy patties, or veggie burgers and the like it never tastes right.

That is exactly my point. If one does not like soy anything (tofu, milk, okara, setan) with the natural flavor, they shouldn't try eating it at all, because its just gross when you try to make it taste like meat, or likely anything else. I happen to like soy. I dislike most poultry. hate beef, and would likely starve before I tried to eat pork again. when I encountered soy meats, I classed them all as honorary pork.

So the next time some one tells you that you need to try (fill the blank) soy product because it tastes just like (fill in the blank) look them in the eye, thank them for the offer and decline on the basis that you do not like soy. No matter what they do to it, its still soy- you won't like it. No matter what you do to pork, I won't like it.

I won't ever try to convince people to eat something they have tried and do not like.

[ConcinusMan]

and even then, power button functions aren't always just simply on and off. :cool: Also, I can't seem to gt it through my mother's head that the shutter button does more than just take the picture. You press gently to focus and then it makes a sound, then you press down fully to take the pic. Well, she;ll go around all day thinking she's taking pictures because it makes a sound to indicate when it's in focus. She thinks the "in focus" sound means that it took a picture. :rolleyes:

[jwolfe152]

yea i hate that with any kind of food or drink "ohhh you HAVE to try this" and shove it in your face when you say you have and didn't like it the first time as if shoving it your face and the second time is somehow going to be better lol. now a few of my tastes have changed like blue cheese of any kind used to make me sick but now i cant get enough especially blue cheese mixed with a bit of good italian dressing on a salad not the orange stuff but like a tuscan italian or a house dressing with a lot of seasoning.

[jwolfe152]

lol my mom is the same way or she has one that you can just hold to focus and then release to take the picture and wonders why nothing is in focus lol

[kerensa]

yea i hate that with any kind of food or drink "ohhh you HAVE to try this" and shove it in your face when you say you have and didn't like it the first time as if shoving it your face and the second time is somehow going to be better lol. now a few of my tastes have changed like blue cheese of any kind used to make me sick but now i cant get enough especially blue cheese mixed with a bit of good italian dressing on a salad not the orange stuff but like a tuscan italian or a house dressing with a lot of seasoning.

Do you make your own salad dressing? a good blue cheese dressing would be worth the effort of finding a blue goats milk cheese...
Most salad dressing recipes I've seen have not been very easy to translate into "real food" and by that I mean, directions like "one package of this mix and a half cup of miracle whip" do not shout "Kerensa will have this stuff on the pantry shelves"

I've been trying to figure out how to make a ranch with goats milk and such also. I used to buy from here :: Harriet's Original All Natural Salad Dressing :: (http://www.harriets-original.com/index.html)
but the ranch is definitely not dairy free. :( <sigh>

Kerensa

edited to add: with me the more people insist I should do something the more I'm gonna dig my heels in and resist. besides why do something to others I hate being done to me?

[jwolfe152]

no but ive been thinking about making my own italian dressing for some time now but never really thinking about it when online which is all the time. the blue cheese i like to use is a real thick and chunky so that when i add the little bit of italian to it, it thins it out to normal but mixes the 2 flavors. the best salad to use this mixed dressing on are the salads with pepperoni, green olives, either pepperoncini or banana pepper rings, and then whatever else you like in the salad. also im not the kind of person that worries about the food i eat, when i eat a good steak i eat fat and all with mushroom and onions, wings are always deep fried, but i do eat some healthy food especially when doing work outside eating granola bars or clif bars and water.

[kerensa]

ummm. I'm probably the least judgmental of people when it comes to another diet. (and lots of other things) Provided you are not asking me to eat whatever you chose to eat, I won't give it a second thought. The only exception is if you decide to cook greasy 4 day old pork chops in my perfectly seasoned cast iron, at too high a temperature filling my house with the rancid smell of burning pork fat, then mve it to yet another perfectly seasoned cast iron pan... one house guest 24 years ago did that, and I've *never* forgotten.

I think I'm going to attack the dressing recipe. worst case I don't find a decent option.




no but ive been thinking about making my own italian dressing for some time now but never really thinking about it when online which is all the time. the blue cheese i like to use is a real thick and chunky so that when i add the little bit of italian to it, it thins it out to normal but mixes the 2 flavors. the best salad to use this mixed dressing on are the salads with pepperoni, green olives, either pepperoncini or banana pepper rings, and then whatever else you like in the salad. also im not the kind of person that worries about the food i eat, when i eat a good steak i eat fat and all with mushroom and onions, wings are always deep fried, but i do eat some healthy food especially when doing work outside eating granola bars or clif bars and water.

[jwolfe152]

wow

[guidofatherof5]

So, it's come to this. I'm so disappointed. Oh, this is bad and I don't mean good.:D
Someone shoot me, please.

Amazon.com: My Garter Snake Rap Flow: Vigor: Music (http://www.amazon.com/My-Garter-Snake-Rap-Flow/dp/B00CAMIXB4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1375294985&sr=8-5&keywords=the+garter+snake)

[chris-uk]

Speaking of bad garter stuff on Amazon, this book isn't good:
The Adventures of Carter the Garter Snake: The Grandpa Steve Series:Amazon:Books (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1434390217/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1375301258&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX110_SY190)

Char got it for Joseph, and the facts are seriously dubious.

[RedSidedSPR]

So, it's come to this. I'm so disappointed. Oh, this is bad and I don't mean good.:D
Someone shoot me, please.

Amazon.com: My Garter Snake Rap Flow: Vigor: Music (http://www.amazon.com/My-Garter-Snake-Rap-Flow/dp/B00CAMIXB4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1375294985&sr=8-5&keywords=the+garter+snake)

http://i.imgur.com/3pDd68S.gif

[chris-uk]

On a different note. One of my boys walked today. When you consider that my garter snake boys don't have legs, that just leaves little Joseph (who is rapidly approaching his first birthday... How time flies).

Of course, he walked while his mother was out of the room and I didn't have a camera to hand. Then didn't for the half hour I had the video camera on my phone pointed at him. Then chose the moment that I'd switched from camera to post a photo on Facebook to say that he'd walked - to rub salt into the wound he walked straight towards me laughing, and sat down the instant I got the camera app running. Nearly as frustrating as trying to film a snake shedding.

[guidofatherof5]

Nice job, Joseph.

[guidofatherof5]

Was checking out at Walmart this evening. Heading toward the exit was a mother with a cry boy(4 years old?) I could tell she was very upset along with the child.
Guess who was parts right next to my vehicle. She was chewing this kid a new one. Very, very angry. Then I noticed her personalized plate

BLIGRNT How appropriate.:D

[jwolfe152]

one thing i cant stand when at walmart or at a restaurant is a kid throwing a fit whaling, screaming, and/or screaming. i don't know why but it is one thing that gives me a panic attack. my oldest niece used to do it when she was little and it makes me sick(to the point i can not eat) especially when at a restaurant. i know its something that all kids do but god it bugs the crap out of me. but that license plate is funny

[guidofatherof5]

Spent $5.00 at a yard sale today and got.

72 new Sharpie Markers (multiple colors, pastels and solids)
22 new Expo dry erase markers
144 new #2 pencils

All needed materials for the classroom I help in.
I love going to yard sales.

[guidofatherof5]

New member belleghem. You will need a couple more posts until you are approved to receive PM from forum members.

[EasternGirl]

I can't stand children screaming either...and I am a mom. Something about a screaming child that grates on my nerves like fingernails on a chalkboard. I was not like that with my son though...the sound of him screaming as a baby only made me want to calm him. It might be a natural instinct thing...like we are programmed like that so we don't eat our young...lol. But I also think that parents should know where they should and should not take young children and when to take a child out of a place...you should not let a screaming child bother other people in public. Just my opinion.

[Stefan-A]

Children screaming is one thing. Adults screaming is something that makes me want to grab a two-by-four and a roll of duct tape.

[jwolfe152]

well it probably doesn't help i don't have kids and probably will not, and i have never had to watch a screaming kid

[EasternGirl]

Has everyone heard of the tragedy in Canada? Apparently a python escaped from an exotic pet store and went into a home and killed two young children yesterday. It's been all over the news. It's just horrible and very, very strange. Here comes more snake bashing by the public because of one weird tragedy. But I just can't even imagine...those poor kids...their poor families.

2 Boys Killed By Python To Undergo Autopsies In Canada (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/06/2-boys-killed-by-python-canada_n_3712512.html)

[ConcinusMan]

Something about a screaming child that grates on my nerves like fingernails on a chalkboard.

It's supposed to. Both the baby's cry and your reaction to it, is a highly evolved interaction. It's supposed to be impossible to ignore, and it's supposed to irritate you.:D

It's a sign that you're a good mother. It's the mothers whom it doesn't bother that worry me.

[EasternGirl]

So does that mean we should go up to kids in Walmart and kick them when they are screaming? Totally kidding...I'll just kick the parents...lol.

[ConcinusMan]

I can't really say. The point is, instinct urges you to do something besides ignore it.;)

[EasternGirl]

Right...I mean, when I hear a newborn screaming...I always have the urge to comfort it...of course if you have heard a newborn cry, the cry is very different than, say, a toddler wailing. It is not as grating. It's a very sad cry and I feel the need to calm the baby. When a toddler screams, I feel the need to scream myself.

[Stefan-A]

The point is, instinct urges you to do something besides ignore it.;)
Like hitting it with a heavy stick until it shuts the hell up.

[ConcinusMan]

Like hitting it with a heavy stick until it shuts the hell up.

Once again today, I don't know whether to laugh or cry about that.

[chris-uk]

Right...I mean, when I hear a newborn screaming...I always have the urge to comfort it...of course if you have heard a newborn cry, the cry is very different than, say, a toddler wailing. It is not as grating. It's a very sad cry and I feel the need to calm the baby. When a toddler screams, I feel the need to scream myself.

I'm finding the "crying because daddy is stopping you from doing things that you shouldn't be doing" is particularly annoying. The sort of "things" include - pulling the cat's fur out while he's sleeping, continuously chasing the cat, pulling on the curtains, turning the DVD player on and off to see the red light around the button change from red to green, banging on the top of the DVD player. Sometimes he just laughs when I tell him off, other times its time to bawl... Bodes well for the future.

[jwolfe152]

I'm finding the "crying because daddy is stopping you from doing things that you shouldn't be doing" is particularly annoying. The sort of "things" include - pulling the cat's fur out while he's sleeping, continuously chasing the cat, pulling on the curtains, turning the DVD player on and off to see the red light around the button change from red to green, banging on the top of the DVD player. Sometimes he just laughs when I tell him off, other times its time to bawl... Bodes well for the future.

LMAO thats to much.

thats exactly the crying i am talking about my sister used to do it when she was little, screaming crying throwing herself on the floor kicking and screaming like she was going to die lol oh and somehow her 2 girls do the same thing but my nephew(youngest) never does that crap that i know of. its crazy how kids act just like the parents did without knowing that their parents used to

[guidofatherof5]

I need some help. Last week I was involved in a thread where I contacted the GA. Dept. of Natural Resources. I have some new info. but for the life of me can't find the thread. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[jwolfe152]

here ya go steve i believe this is it

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/welcome-lounge/12833-hello.html

[jwolfe152]

i found it by going to your profile and then clicking on Find Newest Posts right under your picture Search Results - Garter Snake Forum (http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/search.php?do=finduser&userid=6336&contenttype=vBForum_Post&showposts=1) these are your posts in the link

[guidofatherof5]

here ya go steve i believe this is it

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/welcome-lounge/12833-hello.html

Thanks for your help. The brief description offered in the "Find Latest Post" list didn't jog my memory.

[jwolfe152]

ahhh ok i kinda figured that you know about the function but just wanted to be sure lol

i do the same thing when searching trying to just skim and then end up missing it :rolleyes:

[ConcinusMan]

Hear about this one? Cruelty charges likely in dog killing | KOIN.com (http://www.koin.com/2013/08/06/cruelty-charges-likely-in-dog-killing/)

[jwolfe152]

OMG :eek: you got to be kidding. hearing stuff like that makes me want the same fate for the dogs owner. the EXACT
same. did he even give a reason? not that it would make any difference.

then there is this one Neighbor: Pit bull shot by cops was 'nicest dog' | KOIN.com (http://www.koin.com/2013/07/16/officer-shoots-pit-bull-with-tiny-dog-in-mouth/)

and this one where the cops COMPLETELY overreacted Calif. police kill dog in videotaped shooting | KOIN.com (http://www.koin.com/2013/07/02/calif-police-kill-dog-in-videotaped-shooting/)

[Stefan-A]

and this one where the cops COMPLETELY overreacted Calif. police kill dog in videotaped shooting | KOIN.com (http://www.koin.com/2013/07/02/calif-police-kill-dog-in-videotaped-shooting/)
Can't say I agree. If I had an agitated rottweiler snapping at me, I'd shoot it, too.

[ConcinusMan]

No, this was a couple having a falling out. The dog, he got for her as a pup/gift and they both raised it as a couple. She threw all his stuff, including furniture, out on the lawn and broke the windows in the house. To get back at her I'm sure, he simply blew up her dog. wow. Cops were already on their way there for report of a domestic disturbance when the dog went boom. So, the "evidence" was quite fresh lying over here, and there, and over there. Needless to say with all the charges he's facing, even if he strikes a deal, he's going to prison. Even if they drop the animal cruelty charge he's getting locked up. He's been making explosive devices in his garage and they have the evidence. He'll be facing federal charges. 'nuff said.

[jwolfe152]

honestly in that video that dog did not look agitated it backed away from the cops at least one time IMO but then again theres not much for sound

[ConcinusMan]

Under normal circumstances I'm not usually walking around with a firearm but I've been known to kick some dog's teeth out or bash 'em with a rock. People need to keep their dogs under control plain and simple. Just the other day I had 2 of the prettiest, friendliest pit bulls following me down the street, with collars on. No owner anywhere in sight. I hold nobody but the owners responsible. Sad that dogs had to die, but it's the owners fault. Nobody elses.

[jwolfe152]

yea no dog should ever be allowed to roam the streets alone thats just something bad going to happen. but what the cops said happened is not always the case.

this is something that happened a few miles away from me in order by date
Lumberport man critical after shooting - The Exponent Telegram : Home (http://www.exponent-telegram.com/article_0a183b38-adf2-11e1-b4f0-001a4bcf887a.html)

WDTV.COM 5 News: Some Lumberport Residents Calling on Town to Fire Police Chief Following Shooting (http://www.wdtv.com/wdtv.cfm?func=view&section=5-News&item=Some-Lumberport-Residents-Calling-on-Town-to-Fire-Police-Chief-Following-Shooting3277)

WDTV.COM Fox 10: Lumberport Residents Angry Police Chief Holds Job, Council Delays Decision (http://www.wdtv.com/wdtv.cfm?func=view&section=Fox-10&item=Lumberport-Residents-Angry-Police-Chief-Holds-Job-Council-Delays-Decision5240)


how many times did the officer involved change what he says happened and there were a few people at the volunteer fire dept. that night that gave a statement and then i guess recanted and would not say anything because they was afraid of that officer.

[Stefan-A]

honestly in that video that dog did not look agitated it backed away from the cops at least one time IMO but then again theres not much for sound
I thought I was making an understatement when I called it agitated. It was barking its lungs out, jumped out of the car, came running towards the cops and the suspect and lunged at a cop who apparently tried to grab the collar.

People aren't exactly built to fight dogs and it would take a special kind of fool to start playing games with an unfamiliar dog that size and in that state of mind.

[jwolfe152]

well when watching the video i could not hear the dog barking. something i have noticed with some dogs is that barking is not much of an indicator that its agitated or going to fight someone but growling is a better one. i dont know why i cant hear the dog barking i had in earbuds and the volume was max on the netbook and the dial on the buds.

[Stefan-A]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9fCK6Y0bu4
The clip starts at 0:40. The rest is commentary.

[jwolfe152]

ok thats the most of it i have seen. still one problem why the **** did the cop not put the dog out of its misery instead of watching it flop and roll around clearly in pain. i understand why they done it but when it was on the ground put one in its head and end it

[Stefan-A]

ok thats the most of it i have seen. still one problem why the **** did the cop not put the dog out of its misery instead of watching it flop and roll around clearly in pain. i understand why they done it but when it was on the ground put one in its head and end it
Bystanders.

[jwolfe152]

there were bystander when they shot the dog. and with the dog on asphalt they could have stuck the gun to its head and the asphalt would have absorbed the bullet no ricochet.

[Stefan-A]

Coulda, shoulda, woulda.

[ConcinusMan]

The shooting was justified to protect the officers. The danger was neutralized with one shot. Additional shots would only put bystanders at risk.

How about those subtitles? cracked me up.

[chris-uk]

We've had several cases of officers being badly hurt by dangerous dogs. When a big dog has a grip on an officer's arm battons aren't much use, and a Taser isn't an option. One case I've seen reported had officers being attacked by a pit bull (which had been intentionally set on them) for 20 minutes before an armed unit arrived. I bet the four officers on the scene first wished they'd been armed so they could have dispatched the dog sooner.

[jwolfe152]

Coulda, shoulda, woulda.

no doubt. but its easy for you or me to damn or defend the actions of the cops we were not there not in the heat of the moment having to make a decision.



We've had several cases of officers being badly hurt by dangerous dogs. When a big dog has a grip on an officer's arm battons aren't much use, and a Taser isn't an option. One case I've seen reported had officers being attacked by a pit bull (which had been intentionally set on them) for 20 minutes before an armed unit arrived. I bet the four officers on the scene first wished they'd been armed so they could have dispatched the dog sooner.


its nuts that normal patrol officers cant carry guns over there. i dont understand the reasoning in ti really. do you know the reason that they tell public and then what you think the real reason is for it?

[RedSidedSPR]

derpy double post.

[RedSidedSPR]

The danger was neutralized with one shot.

it was more than one shot


Additional shots would only put bystanders at risk.

no they wouldn't.

[Stefan-A]

The shooting was justified to protect the officers.
And everyone else at the scene. And potentially at the scene of the armed robbery.


The danger was neutralized with one shot.
I counted four shots.

[Stefan-A]

no doubt. but its easy for you or me to damn or defend the actions of the cops we were not there not in the heat of the moment having to make a decision.
Yeah, but it's easier to defend their actions, exactly because it was an in-the-heat-of-the moment decision.

[Stefan-A]

no they wouldn't.
Walk around in a crowded place shooting at the ground and then try to argue in court that you didn't put anyone at risk.

And you never approach a wounded animal.

[RedSidedSPR]

Walk around in a crowded place shooting at the ground and then try to argue in court that you didn't put anyone at risk.

Which obviously wouldn't work. And there's the reason.

But forget court and no one would have actually been at risk. At least not any more than when he shot the four off in panic earlier.

[chris-uk]

its nuts that normal patrol officers cant carry guns over there. i dont understand the reasoning in ti really. do you know the reason that they tell public and then what you think the real reason is for it?

Because we don't have crazy arsed gun laws that allow anyone to carry a gun? Meaning that the chances of an officer being faced by someone with a gun is pretty low. Our officers are more at risk from stabbing, which is why their protective vests are stab vests rather than ballistic vests. There is no need for our police officers to be armed all the time, and the majority of our police officers don't want to be armed. The prison sentences here for carrying a gun in the commission of a crime are harsh enough to make most criminals think twice, and when you know a shopkeeper isn't going to pull a shotgun from under the counter the feel safe enough threatening them with a baseball bat.

There are of course odd occasions when a weapon would be useful, but it doesn't justify arming our police force.

[EasternGirl]

Okay...I can't even read about animals getting hurt because it upsets me too much...heck, I have to leave the room if a dog gets hurt or dies in a movie. So...I am going to post this to balance all of this out with some good news:Abused puppy rescued and adopted by police (PHOTOS) » DogHeirs | Where Dogs Are Family « Keywords: Prince William County, Manassas, Puppy, police (http://www.dogheirs.com/larne/posts/3485-abused-puppy-rescued-and-adopted-by-police-photos)

[jwolfe152]

Because we don't have crazy arsed gun laws that allow anyone to carry a gun? Meaning that the chances of an officer being faced by someone with a gun is pretty low. Our officers are more at risk from stabbing, which is why their protective vests are stab vests rather than ballistic vests. There is no need for our police officers to be armed all the time, and the majority of our police officers don't want to be armed. The prison sentences here for carrying a gun in the commission of a crime are harsh enough to make most criminals think twice, and when you know a shopkeeper isn't going to pull a shotgun from under the counter the feel safe enough threatening them with a baseball bat.

There are of course odd occasions when a weapon would be useful, but it doesn't justify arming our police force.


so im guessing that the flare gun conversions or other homemade guns i have heard of are not very wide spread? and what about hunting things like birds or other small animals are you allowed to have hunting guns so long as they are only used for hunting? it all seems odd to me, my dad told me awhile ago about the cops and most people not allowed to have guns.

[Stefan-A]

Which obviously wouldn't work. And there's the reason.

But forget court and no one would have actually been at risk. At least not any more than when he shot the four off in panic earlier.
That's untrue. Every additional shot increases the risk of injury. And the whisking legs on that dog tells you it was down and out already.

[ConcinusMan]

Because we don't have crazy arsed gun laws that allow anyone to carry a gun? Meaning that the chances of an officer being faced by someone with a gun is pretty low. Our officers are more at risk from stabbing, which is why their protective vests are stab vests rather than ballistic vests. There is no need for our police officers to be armed all the time, and the majority of our police officers don't want to be armed. The prison sentences here for carrying a gun in the commission of a crime are harsh enough to make most criminals think twice, and when you know a shopkeeper isn't going to pull a shotgun from under the counter the feel safe enough threatening them with a baseball bat.

There are of course odd occasions when a weapon would be useful, but it doesn't justify arming our police force.

That might work just fine where you come from, but due to our history and bordering countries, flow of guns by criminal organizations, ridiculous crime rates, drug trafficking, etc. that would never fly here.

[RedSidedSPR]

That's untrue. Every additional shot increases the risk of injury.

So does a lot of things.

[Stefan-A]

So does a lot of things.
Right, because a paper cut is comparable to a gunshot wound.

[RedSidedSPR]

Right, because a paper cut is comparable to a gunshot wound.

Dude paper cuts are the worst.

[ConcinusMan]

Sometimes when I get one, I would rather be shot LoL

Broke my arm last summer. Pain-wise, a paper cut or severe hangnail is worse. They sent me home with 30 vicodin and i told them I didn't need it. Filled it anyway to have on hand but I think I took maybe 2 for the broken arm. I could feel bones scraping together but it sure as heck didn't hurt. The rest of the pills are still sitting here.

[jwolfe152]

That might work just fine where you come from, but due to our history and bordering countries, flow of guns by criminal organizations, ridiculous crime rates, drug trafficking, etc. that would never fly here.


i dont know how it works there, maybe because we are so used to having access to guns it just doesnt seem like it could be done. well that and the 2nd amendment

[ConcinusMan]

It couldn't be done here. If we can't even keep a person from entering the countty illegally how are we going to stop criminals from bringing guns in too? I guess what I'm trying to say is, more gin restrictions only effect law abiding citizens. Disarm them and who does that leave holding guns?

My point is, what works there would not work here. We got Mexico next door. We have unsecure borders, We got the drugs, crime, organizations, etc. that have no problem getting armed or getting guns across the border. Oh yeah, there's that pesky constitution too.

Even if all that weren't true, our cops would at the very least, need to carry non-lethal weapons or something that can stop a damn dog. Unarmed police... are you kidding me? You might as well send pee wee herman in his pajamas, to go break up a bar fight.

[chris-uk]

so im guessing that the flare gun conversions or other homemade guns i have heard of are not very wide spread? and what about hunting things like birds or other small animals are you allowed to have hunting guns so long as they are only used for hunting? it all seems odd to me, my dad told me awhile ago about the cops and most people not allowed to have guns.

Flare gun conversions? Homemade guns? No, never heard of them being a problem. Hunting is exactly big in the UK, it's a case of shooting birds with shotguns. Farmers often have shotguns for shooting vermin. Handguns are illegal except for target shooting, so anything legal is hard to conceal. Simply put, there is no need for 99.9% of the UK population to ever own a gun. Especially when you consider that using a gun to defend yourself will still land you in court on a murder change.


That might work just fine where you come from, but due to our history and bordering countries, flow of guns by criminal organizations, ridiculous crime rates, drug trafficking, etc. that would never fly here.

I agree. It works here because the genie isn't out of the bottle. Anyone who thinks that a ban on gun ownership would reverse the rate of gun crime in the US is blinkered, it might reduce some opportunistic crimes, but criminals aren't going to surrender their guns. The genie is well and truly out. Saying that, anyone in the NRA who says that rates of gun ownership in a country aren't directly linked to gun deaths is crazy, the relationship is easy to show, but it's interesting to see the anomalies (e.g. Switzerland) and see that gun crime is linked to the cultural attitude towards ownership of guns. In the UK gun crime is most prominent in sectors of the population that are most influenced by American gang culture (read... "teenagers in the UK that wish they'd been born in South central LA) for whom carrying a knife isn't a big enough status symbol.

[ConcinusMan]

One of these videos explains it very well. Which one, I don't remember. But I can tell you, of all the political debates and hot topic polarizing issues and debates, neither side of the debate is seeing the big picture and they're both wrong. I highly recommend watching this entire series. 5 lectures so far. I promise you'll walk away with a completely different view of all the social problems that exist. None of the people debating these issues seem to understand the true cause of the problems. Watch these and it becomes crystal clear.

Culture In Decline - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjqWZGs5wdqiwq0uy9qeP24syuErzQ8mM)

[jwolfe152]

i dont know much about the flare gun conversions or homemade guns but my dad read somewhere that it was happening a lot more. he has all kinds of guns an old WWI Colt 1911, a semi-auto AK-47, a damn nice AR-15, a brand new Kimber 1911 with laser grip sights, and a lot more really nice guns. he has them because he likes to shoot and the 1911's are for his concealed carry for self protection. him and my mom was out on the motorcycle and was walking from a restaurant to his bike and some guy started walking toward them kinda quick with his arm in his coat(he said it looked like someone thinking of attempting to rob him) and he flashed the butt of the gun and the guy turned and ran from him and dropped a knife at some point he didnt even try to pick it back up

[jwolfe152]

don't start on the war on drugs that failed so long ago its ridiculous

[ConcinusMan]

And none of the laws or any amount of fighting the problem directly addresses the root of the problem, and that is, why people traffic in, and use drugs in the first place. The problem would be rare to non-existent if those reasons didn't exist and they don't have to. Drug abuse, violence, poverty, homelessness, pollution, crime, resource depletion, corrupt govts, social unrest, war... all seemingly separate issues. They are not. They all have the same root causes. Watch the lectures and you'll understand.

[ConcinusMan]

To sit here and debate about gun control, war on drugs, how to deal with them, etc. is futile because both sides are completely distracted and detached from the real issue which is not guns or drugs or law enforcement failure. It's something completely different. Soemething hardly anyone talks about. When they do, they are ridiculed and not taken seriously. Those in politics effectively commit career suicide if they do threaten to change the status quo for the better. Either that, or they get assassinated as Kennedy did.

[jwolfe152]

well i used to do a drugs like smoking pot, and i stopped smoking for a few years and then i started doing pain pills (snorting hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine, or hydromorphone) for about 6 years, until i started going to a suboxone clinic. the reason i started doing them was they made me happy/not depressed where i actually wanted do stuff, like going out and having fun.

[jwolfe152]

i also was into the bath salt crap when it was technically legal that is something i dont ever want to get into again that stuff will make you crazy as hell

[ConcinusMan]

well i used to do a drugs like smoking pot, and i stopped smoking for a few years and then i started doing pain pills (snorting hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine, or hydromorphone) for about 6 years, until i started going to a suboxone clinic. the reason i started doing them was they made me happy/not depressed where i actually wanted do stuff, like going out and having fun.

Everyone has their reasons and my point was, they're all just a symptom of culture in decline.

[jwolfe152]

it may take some time but i need to watch those videos

[jwolfe152]

less than 10mins into episode one and it all makes sense (what he says and the way he says it) most other people want to talk about or explain it in a way that just confuses me and then i dont care

[Stefan-A]

Saying that, anyone in the NRA who says that rates of gun ownership in a country aren't directly linked to gun deaths is crazy,
The number of gun deaths is irrelevant to the issue, it's the total number of deaths that matters. That's the number that matters, if it's reduced. If the gun fairy came and wished away all the guns in the world, gun deaths would of course plummet. Total deaths might not, because the reason people were shooting each other would remain and guns are easily replaced and methods of committing violent crimes are easily changed.

The link between violent crime and gun ownership is easy to show, a causal relationship isn't.

[RedSidedSPR]

Rich dude buys his way into rally competition.


http://youtu.be/ehr0pTyMDQA

[jwolfe152]

This is for anyone who didn't know about it (i just found out last night) Perseid meteor shower 2013: Watch online, right here - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/news/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-perseid-meteor-shower-watch-online-20130809,0,6504772.story)
who is going to watch tonight or maybe you checked it out last night.

[guidofatherof5]

Too cloudy tonight.

[EKS56]

Cloudy where I live too. Maybe it will clear off a little later.

[jwolfe152]

yea well from midnight till sun rise is a good time but closer to sunrise is the best. it was foggy here last night and i did not get to see anything i just hope it stays clear all night. i watched December 13-14, 2013 Geminids it was the first one i ever watched and it was awesome i need to keep better track of them throughout the year, because i love watching them.

[Chulio]

I get regular emails about viewing the space station. They come in cycles. I will get them for 10 days in a row then nothing for a week or so and then back on again. It usually says something like 8-13-12, 9:04pm, appears SSW, 73 degrees to ENE, 4:06 minutes/ I delete them after I watch, so next one I get I will give you the site. You just enter your ZIP code. Pretty Cool. I have a good scope but you can see it with the naked eye as well.

[EasternGirl]

Hey there Chulio! Haven't gotten to chat in a while...hope you are well. Okay, this is probably a dumb question...but do I just go outside and look up and I will see the meteor shower? I mean...do I have to look in a certain direction? I have never seen one and I would like to wake my son up and take him outside to see it tonight.

[EasternGirl]

Okay...I just clicked on that link and it said to look at the northeastern quadrant...but the link doesn't show the shower anymore. It says go outside between 10:30p and 4:30a....what do you think would be the best time to wake my son up and take him outside?

[guidofatherof5]

Fall must be on its way. Tank(24 pound,Chelydra serpentina - Common Snapping Turtle) is now sleeping at night under his bookcase and taking afternoon naps there. Right now he's lounging on his blankets in the living room. He's all stretched out without a care in the world. Kids and dogs walking by and a vacuum running don't concern him at all, he never flinches or appears worried by anything. Once into Winter held sleep for 24-36 hours at a time. Only getting up to use the bathroom, get a drink or eat. Otherwise he sleeps.
I've never seen a turtle more comfortable in his shell then Tank.

[EasternGirl]

The Tankster! Hey...what is going on with all the technical issues on the forum? Editing is a complete nightmare and I just did a search for my snake thread and when I tried to click on it, it said I didn't have permission to access the thread!

[guidofatherof5]

No idea. Reboot your computer.

[EasternGirl]

I just did before I tried to access the link I searched for. For some reason it is letting me access the link you posted for me though. Thanks.

[guidofatherof5]

What browser are you using Marnie?

[EasternGirl]

Google Chrome. I don't know what it is doing in other parts of the country, but we just had a major storm and we were in a tornado warning for a while. We just recently had a tornado hit our area a couple of months ago that did damage to homes near me. Today, we had seriously high winds and my entire backyard is flooded. When the tornado warning came in and they told us to seek cover, I sent my mother, son, and the dog into the basement. I stayed upstairs and refused to leave the snakes. I said, "If the tornado hits the house, I will throw all of the snakes in a pillow case and get down to the basement as fast as I can...but there is no way I am leaving my snakes!". The snakes seemed to sense what was going on too...I had to take Sadie out of her enclosure and hold her because she was freaked out.

[chris-uk]

The snakes seemed to sense what was going on too...I had to take Sadie out of her enclosure and hold her because she was freaked out.

Air pressure changes, humidity, vibrations from the stormy weather. There's all sorts of animals that can reliably "foresee" bad weather arriving so I don't see why garters would be different.

[jwolfe152]

yea my if chihuahua hears anything close to thunder he freaks out a little bit but if its going to storm like it did last night he freaks out, running around panting hiding or jumping over the baby gate and hiding in the darkest place he can find. its really just a big pain in the ***

[ConcinusMan]

I just did a search for my snake thread and when I tried to click on it, it said I didn't have permission to access the thread!

Mine does that too. Has ever since the last major forum software upgrade. When it happens just go to the browser address window and delete everything after the .html part then go. Hmm... just tried that and it appears that bug has been fixed. No need to do that anymore.

[guidofatherof5]

Signs of Fall:

Cooler daytime and nighttime temps.
Color changes in the leaves
Birds gathering in flocks
Monarchs feeding and cycling on the milk weed.
and

tomatoes that have flavor and aren't hard as a rock. Pick'em, wash'em, salt'em, and eat'em.

[Mommy2many]

Yum!

[jwolfe152]

why is it that its sooo much harder to deal with someone dying when they are your age? i had a friend that died on 08-09-13
and it was as bad as when my grandpa died as in i started crying before i even walked into the funeral home and i couldn't even get to the casket all i seen was the top of his head. hell everyday since i found out it is all i can think about. and i have not even talked to him in over a year thats what gets me, i mean we was not fighting a few things just screwed up us hanging out at least once a week.

[Stefan-A]

why is it that its sooo much harder to deal with someone dying when they are your age?
Because it's not part of the "plan". Old people are supposed to die, young people are supposed live life, get stuff done and become old before something like that can happen. It's unexpected, there's no time to prepare and it goes against everything you think you know about how a life is supposed to progress. Everything about it is wrong. And some would say that it reminds you of your own mortality and that you could be next.

Sorry for your loss.

[jwolfe152]

thanks that really makes a lot of sense to me

[Mommy2many]

I agree with Stefan. It reminds you rather abruptly of your own mortality. I am also sorry for your loss.

[guidofatherof5]

Sorry to hear about your loss. Hang in there.

[jwolfe152]

i was trying to do something to take my mind off for a little bit so i went to mow some grass i think i thought about it more while mowing lol but his wife and my friend and a few other friends stopped by for no reason but to talk, and that right there helps more than anything else besides time itself

[guidofatherof5]

i was trying to do something to take my mind off for a little bit so i went to mow some grass i think i thought about it more while mowing lol but his wife and my friend and a few other friends stopped by for no reason but to talk, and that right there helps more than anything else besides time itself

Good friends are priceless.

[jwolfe152]

yea he was a good friend we just had not talked in some time, i did see him on the street about 2 weeks ago talking on his phone and i thought about stopping to say hi but i was in a hurry to do something and thought oh i will see him again and stop next time. i really regret that i did not stop now :( similar thing with my grandpa i usually call at least once a day or stop by and it had been 3 days since i talked to him and i got the call. any chance i get to talk to someone i need to at least say hi how ya doing instead of well i will see them again

[jwolfe152]

alright we need to change the direction here sooo, whats for dinner?

for me i used 2 8oz boxes of Zatarain's Jambalaya mix with smoked sausage, chicken breast, and some mixed sizes of fresh louisiana jumbo shrimp. i have been adding half an onion and some fresh diced bell peppers cooked with the sausage and then add some tony chachere's original creole seasoning. i also use an extra 1/2 cup of water because it usually runs out of water and the rice does not cook fully. i don't know if it changes the flavor a lot adding what i do, only because its been so long since i have not added anything, but its good and spicier (which we both like a lot)

http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t579/jwolfe152/Snapbucket/11BE261D-orig.jpg (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/jwolfe152/media/Snapbucket/11BE261D-orig.jpg.html)

YUM:D:cool:

[guidofatherof5]

Looks good. Tank had steak and the rest of us had hotdogs.:D

[jwolfe152]

i bet thats a trend in that house lol

[gibble888]

Looks good. Tank had steak and the rest of us had hotdogs.:D

Lol...isnt it something we search high and low to find pure,organic,chemical free food for our pets then sit down to eat the exact opposite for ourselves!!:eek:

[jwolfe152]

yea you cant get anymore non organic and chemical laced than a good old hotdog so much meat just mashed together into entrails YUMMY

[guidofatherof5]

Tank did have steak but I was just joking about us eating hotdog. We had spam:D

[jwolfe152]

thats just hot dogs with no casing lol

[jwolfe152]

i got a National DC2-456 microscope with a built in camera but when i try to access the program to view the images that i can see through the microscope it crashes my pc it does a physical memory dump does anyone know if there is anything i can do to fix this. it has to have worked on other peoples systems why not mine?

[Mommy2many]

Spam and Hot Dogs, YUM!!!
We had chicken on the bone (as my kids like to say) drumsticks...
Fresh beets from the garden and fresh broccoli from the garden

My other "kids" had the pinkies I had left over and my florida blue "Jesse" had fresh fish (dace minnow). He lucked out cause I cleaned the fish tank and the damn fish dies while I was cleaning it. It was too large , though he did give a valiant attempt at trying to swallow this thing whole. I had to fillet it for him. He is one happy snake... :)

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I had one of the Ballun Wrasse that I caught. Not the nicest tasting fish but the most fun to catch after the bass

[chris-uk]

i got a National DC2-456 microscope with a built in camera but when i try to access the program to view the images that i can see through the microscope it crashes my pc it does a physical memory dump does anyone know if there is anything i can do to fix this. it has to have worked on other peoples systems why not mine?

Drivers? Is the software old? If it's old software you might have luck running it in compatibility mode (so Windows pretends to be W95 or XP). Does Windows detect the camera if you don't run the software that came with it? Assuming it's a USB camera it might be possible to use some different software.

[guidofatherof5]

Drivers for National DC2-456 Digital Microscope - Fixya (http://www.fixya.com/support/t13003016-drivers_national_dc2_456_digital)

[jwolfe152]

Drivers? Is the software old? If it's old software you might have luck running it in compatibility mode (so Windows pretends to be W95 or XP). Does Windows detect the camera if you don't run the software that came with it? Assuming it's a USB camera it might be possible to use some different software.

i have the right drivers everything comes up on the device manager


Drivers for National DC2-456 Digital Microscope - Fixya (http://www.fixya.com/support/t13003016-drivers_national_dc2_456_digital)

this is the only place i could find anything and i grabbed the imageplus 2.0 with the 2E drivers which is the correct one from other sources. when i open the image plus2.0 and try to bring up the capture window and the light on top of the microscope turns on (to let me know its working) and about 5sec later i get a KS.SYS BSoD full physical memory dump. doing more research i was told to make sure ALL drivers all up to date. download a program called slim driver to check all devices for updates and several things came up and 3hrs later i try the microscope again, and im still getting the KS.SYS BSoD memory dump.

[guidofatherof5]

Craigslist has did it again. With 6 in the family and 5 in school the need for a printer is important. For the last couple years I've been using Samsung CLP-310 laser printers but they can't keep up with the demand. Having a network/WiFi printer would be nice so everyone could access it from their devices/computers. The problem with that has been the price. That was until I did a little cruising on Craigslist. I located a business class Brother MFC-9840CDW color laser printer with built-in WiFi. New they are still bringing 5-6 hundred dollars on Ebay.
The one I was looking at was working but approaching the need for a drum replacement. That is according to the page counter in the printer.
Making a long story short I bought it for $20, reset the drum counter and cleaned one toner cartridge(all cartridges are full)
Now I just need to figure out where to put this monster. I do know one thing, I'll be entering this thing in the Hernia Derby.:D
Let the printing begin.

Amazon.com : Brother MFC-9840CDW Laser Multifunction Center : Laser Multifunction Office Machines : Electronics (http://www.amazon.com/Brother-MFC-9840CDW-Laser-Multifunction-Center/dp/B000VLDQQ8)

[chris-uk]

So the drum wasn't actually dying, just the counter in the printer suggesting it needed to be replaced... I wonder if it will actually print double the number of pages that the manufacturer set as a replacement point...

[guidofatherof5]

So the drum wasn't actually dying, just the counter in the printer suggesting it needed to be replaced... I wonder if it will actually print double the number of pages that the manufacturer set as a replacement point...

Guess I'll find out.

[EasternGirl]

jwolfe...I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. It is interesting that I was just dreaming last night about my best friend who died 8 years ago. I'm still messed up over it. I think one of the things that messed me up the most was the fact that we had an argument the night he died...he was upset and wanted to come over to my house, but I wouldn't let him because he was using heroin and I had told him a week before that I would help him if he wanted to get clean, but as long as he was using, I wasn't going to have anything to do with him. I told him he was going to end up killing himself, and I wouldn't sit by and watch. He begged me to come over one night and I told him no...I told him I would call him the next day...and I did, and his mom told me he had died the night before shortly after I had talked to him. So, I felt guilt on top of mourning his death. You probably feel upset about the fact that you had a falling out with your friend on top of grieving his death. You can't blame yourself for that...the fight happened between the two of you as fights do...him dying was unexpected. Wherever he is now...he knows you loved him, despite the falling out.

[ConcinusMan]

i got a National DC2-456 microscope with a built in camera but when i try to access the program to view the images that i can see through the microscope it crashes my pc it does a physical memory dump does anyone know if there is anything i can do to fix this. it has to have worked on other peoples systems why not mine?

I might be able to help with that.

The stop error is most likely caused by a 3rd party program/driver running in kernel mode which failed to terminate and/or clear itself from that portion of memory. If a driver (in your case, a windows kernel file called KS.SYS) erroneously accesses a portion of memory that is being used by other software (or not specifically marked as accessible to drivers), Windows stops. Memory dump, BSOD, etc.

I (or anyone doing a diagnostic) needs a copy of/view what was written to the memory dump file (s). I'm willing to look at that and advise if U wish. PM me.

[jwolfe152]

we really didnt have a fight it was more of a few bad things in his life and in mine that caused conflicts of a place to hang out(get high).


ConcinnusMan i will PM you in the morning/when i wake my dead *** up lol

i just got back from kennywood had a blast with my girlfriend my mom and dad took us for what we have been doing since the end of jan.

if anyone has a chance to go before the end of the season and you like the Aero360 or even the Sky Coaster you HAVE to ride the Black Widow Black Widow (ride) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_(ride)) it is an awsome zero g feeling at its peek if you let go of everything and allow your body to get "smashed" into the harness its unreal and scary as hell at its apex

[EasternGirl]

If anyone gets ESPN...you can watch the team from my town, Newark, DE, who beat us in the All Stars this year, play against CA in the little league world series.

[jwolfe152]

thats one sport i just cant get into, baseball, especially little league. i can watch hockey, basketball(rarely), and football(a lot more recently) but its mostly football hell until last year i didnt watch any sports at all i dont know what happened but i record a few games a week now and watch when i can(preseason) but when college starts and regular season NFL it will be much more

[infernalis]

My daughters Amanda & Samantha

http://www.varanuspark.com/SH/BIGgirls.jpg

My son Brendan..

http://www.varanuspark.com/SH/brendan.jpg

Brendan's best friend Joe with Alivia & Allison

http://www.varanuspark.com/SH/JoeTrio.jpg

The grandkids..

http://www.varanuspark.com/SH/grandgirls.jpg

http://www.varanuspark.com/SH/girls.jpg

http://www.varanuspark.com/SH/signs.jpg

[chris-uk]

Family camping trip, or just messing about in the back yard Wayne? Looks like a nice place to spend a bit of time either way. :)

[guidofatherof5]

Family camping time, PRICELESS.

[Chulio]

Great times to remember for the rest of their lives

[infernalis]

New York state was kind enough to put several lean to structures throughout the state forest. Just mere minutes up the road, I can see the forest from my house. 10,000 acres of heaven right there.

The grand kids love it, have to squeeze one more trip in soon, before it gets too chilly at night to stay outside.

[EasternGirl]

@jwolfe....funny, because baseball is really the only sport I truly get into. All the other sports just seem like a bunch of people running around piling up on each other and trying to get a goal. I like baseball because it is very much a mental sport. I can watch basketball too...but I just don't get into it like baseball...and little league is my passion because watching my son play is so amazing. And thinking of Wayne's camping pics above...my son is having a camping b-day party in our backyard this year...I know, I know...not the same as real camping...but it is going to be fun...tents and smores and ghost stories! I will try to remember to take some pics and post them. Last year my son got to go to a birthday party on real camping grounds...his first real camping experience...someday I will have to take him camping.

[infernalis]

@jwolfe....funny, because baseball is really the only sport I truly get into. All the other sports just seem like a bunch of people running around piling up on each other and trying to get a goal. I like baseball because it is very much a mental sport. I can watch basketball too...but I just don't get into it like baseball...and little league is my passion because watching my son play is so amazing. And thinking of Wayne's camping pics above...my son is having a camping b-day party in our backyard this year...I know, I know...not the same as real camping...but it is going to be fun...tents and smores and ghost stories! I will try to remember to take some pics and post them. Last year my son got to go to a birthday party on real camping grounds...his first real camping experience...someday I will have to take him camping.

Look into state parks, a lot more secluded but it requires hiking in. The harder the camp site is to access, the more secluded and natural it is, the better.

We carried 2 trips worth of supplies 3/4 of a mile in from the trail head and still encountered other hikers.

[jwolfe152]

i love going camping i usually just take off in the woods try and get lost and just look around. i have not been out since i got into snakes again but i like coming up on deer and whatnot and watch them till they hear me and go running off

[jwolfe152]

just got off the phone with someone from the DNR here in WV apparently they are changing laws regarding all wildlife where anyone in WV can only posses 4 garters/other native snakes. im not sure if its 4 of one type or 4 total of any species. and i cant even buy an eastern from out of state without an importation license and he said the way its setup its extremely difficult if not impossible to obtain. also it states that i can not breed or sell ANY snakes that are native. soon im going to call the main DNR office in the capital to try and get a few more answers about when these laws come into effect and if there are any different permits i could obtain that would allow me to breed and keep more than 4 and maybe sell. its not a big deal but they made the laws with the intent of "exotics" and "Dangerous" animals and people taking extremely large amounts of native non-game animals for pet trade. i guess im just a little mad that a few dumbasses just ruined something that has brought me the joy of garters and i just got started and am already at my limit i can have as pets :mad: