Its oh so quiet Shh Shh [Archive] - Page 51

ConcinusMan

11-04-2012, 01:13 AM

The "I like turtles" kid was famous and I had been hearing about that for a long time before I finally watched the clip and realized that was my local news station (Portland OR, KGW channel 8) Now if I only knew who did his makeup I would drive the 10 minutes to the waterfront and have them do the makeup on me for Halloween. They did an outstanding job.

Apparently, this kid has inspired some artists.

http://www.faithmouse.com/I-like-zombie-turtles.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8JVNqSqSxxE/SWITSa7VijI/AAAAAAAAAmw/Ky_1LyNmYzM/s400/va_i_like_turtles_a_diplo_mix_front.jpeg
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/167349/1047729.jpg

And the kids Tosh.0 web redemption: Tosh.0: Web Redemption - I Like Turtles Kid - Video Clip | Tosh.0 | Comedy Central (http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/web-redemption---i-like-turtles-kid)

ConcinusMan

11-04-2012, 01:30 AM

Play the video past 0:08. Pause. Play again. While it's playing, press 5 over and over again. hee hee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

ProXimuS

11-04-2012, 06:58 AM

Way to go Marnie!

Also cool to hear MCwyo. I remember programs like that when I was in elementary school. Good job little Z!

What a scary little awkward zombie child.....

And lastly............Am I the only one who didn't set their clock back and woke up an hour early for work....:rolleyes:

mikem

11-04-2012, 09:52 AM

"i like turltes" looped would make an awesome ringtone, haha!

Emily, I completely forgot that time went back last night, lol! The only clocks I use are on my computer and my phone. Both of them adjust the time automatically, so I didn't even notice!

ConcinusMan

11-04-2012, 10:17 AM

Great idea. I think I'll do that. Just an audio clip, and just once or twice, then use it for my "text received" tone. I don't think I could take it as a ringtone. I like my "call me maybe" ringtone.:p

ProXimuS

11-04-2012, 04:12 PM

Oh, Richard....:rolleyes::p

This morning I was in the kitchen getting Tippy's food, when my roommate's dog came runnin out. She always takes her dog to work with her so I knew something was weird....Then here comes my roommate....Askin me what I'm doing up so early(I go into work later than her). I didn't get my extra hour:(

ConcinusMan

11-04-2012, 10:44 PM

completely forgot that time went back last night, lol! The only clocks I use are on my computer and my phone. Both of them adjust the time automatically, so I didn't even notice!

Ha! I didn't notice either. Totally forgot. Every clock I own does it automatically. The house clocks are radio-atomic and then there's the cell phone and computers. didn't even notice!

I'm sure in a day or two, I'll sure as heck notice it getting dark at friggen 5pm though. That sucks. By late December, dark before 5pm. I hate that. Actually not looking forward to the bitter cold nights back at home in the Mojave desert. Man, it gets cold at night. But dry. Still very mild temps even at night here in WA

RedSidedSPR

11-04-2012, 11:26 PM

All my stuff does it automatically too, forgot all about the change until you said that.

-MARWOLAETH-

11-05-2012, 04:03 AM

I found out from reading this thread.I asked my Dad about it and he told me that the clocks went back last Sunday! Luckily it's half term so It didn't matter :D

ProXimuS

11-05-2012, 06:54 AM

So does the whole world have a daylight savings thing?

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 12:20 PM

No. Not even all places in the U.S. participate. These days it's done for a different reason than originally. They claim it saves energy. I am skeptical. Honestly, I wish they would just do away with it.

Daylight saving time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time)

RedSidedSPR

11-05-2012, 12:24 PM

I'd be happy with that. I see no point whatsoever.

Stefan-A

11-05-2012, 01:46 PM

Guess again.

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 01:47 PM

I despise guessing games

Stefan-A

11-05-2012, 01:50 PM

I despise guessing games
Any guesses as to why you despise them?

Steveo

11-05-2012, 01:53 PM

DST makes it easier for me to get out of bed in the winter, but that's the only positive I have found. I don't like that it's completely dark before I even leave the office.

-MARWOLAETH-

11-05-2012, 01:56 PM

I heard it was so that farmers could see what they're doing and school children don't get ran over

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 01:57 PM

It's always been about manipulating the time that daylight hours occur. For whatever reasons. The reasons vary. When they changed the day the clocks go back they even considered doing away with it. When that happened (changing it to early Nov) they justified keeping it by saying it saves energy by reducing evening use of incandescent lighting/washing machines, etc. I call bull spit. What difference does that make. It may reduce evening use in the summer, but increases it in the winter, a time when energy consumption goes up anyway.

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 03:44 PM

If Apple, Inc. manufactured cars and buses, would they have Windows? :p

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 04:15 PM

Dang, what an awesome afternoon, especially for Nov in WA. Sunny, 66 degrees. If I knew it was going to be like this, I would have went herping!

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 06:33 PM

Greg'sGarters... Empty your sent messages box and delete old inbox messages. I can't send a PM. Your boxes are full. Also, when you send a PM, uncheck the box that saves a copy in your "sent messages" folder. This will help keep it from getting full so fast. When you're done reading a post, you can immediately delete it. There's a button for that.

EasternGirl

11-05-2012, 06:44 PM

I'm recovering from an endoscopy I had this morning. It wasn't bad at all...but I am still tired and sore. The worst part is having to fast after midnight the night before.

My mother changed some of the clocks in the house last night, but not all of them. So I was completely confused.

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 06:52 PM

Didn't even wine and dine you first huh? just sent you home all sore.:p

guidofatherof5

11-05-2012, 07:03 PM

Hope you get feeling better soon Marnie.

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 07:07 PM

I swear, Portlanders will riot over the price of milk. Around town, several firebomings of police cars also occured today. Some people, I swear.

Today in Portland, Oregon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6PLGtILG18

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 07:18 PM

RedSidedSPR

11-05-2012, 08:19 PM

Daylight savings basically comes down to people havin more hours in a day, or daylight. I say just get up early.

That was a lot of posts Richard :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6PLGtILG18

People, I swear.

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 08:38 PM

I just had my mind blown. Many years ago I purchased a compaq scanner for my 800mhz desktop computer. I scanned and cropped out part of an advertisement I found in a hunting magazine. I uploaded it, using AOL dial-up, to AOL's "download center" to share it with other AOL users. That was the year 2000. I Never saw it again.

Moments ago, one of my friends posted it to facebook. I know it's mine because it has all the same flaws, such as a slight uneven black border in one spot where I cropped it out.

This is like signing a dollar bill, spending it, then getting it as change 12 years later. What a trip.:eek:

RedSidedSPR

11-05-2012, 08:44 PM

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 09:12 PM

Daylight savings basically comes down to people havin more hours in a day, or daylight. I say just get up early.

That was a lot of posts Richard :p.

Well I can't help that. My off-topic posts belong in this thread. Not my fault if nobody posted in between them.:rolleyes:

ConcinusMan

11-05-2012, 09:14 PM

Ha. Reminds of a friend I had who subtly "signed" almost every dollar bill in hope that that would happen. And it did. Somehow he ended up with one of those subtly but distinguishable bills in his wallet again.

You think that's a trip, there's a true story of a person who got a $5 for their birthday when they were a kid. It was signed, happy birthday, all of that. Many, many, many years later they got it back. On their birthday. It was a story on that old show "that's incredible".

Another one that happened was this elementary school class all released helium ballons. EAch one had a tag with the students name. One of the balloons traveled I don't know how many miles and landed in a persons yard. That person had the same name as the name on the tag. And no, it wasn't "John Smith" LoL. Wasn't a common name at all.

OH, and BTW, the people protesting were protesting Portland buget cuts. They MUST make cuts. The thing is, I bet these people would also riot if the city raised their property taxes to cover the budget. Where do they think the money comes from? Sure as hell doesn't grow on trees.

RedSidedSPR

11-05-2012, 09:41 PM

Yeah I saw that episode, used to watch some of those. There's some crazy stuff.

And thanks, I forgot the ask what the riot was about.

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 03:24 PM

Any braniacs out there know if live moss would die in a pure CO2 environment? I was thinking of ways that I could kill bugs in live moss growing on wood, without killing the moss or adding toxins that would make the object/moss useless for terrarium use.

Trying to figure out how to use collected moss or moss covered objects, while ensuring there are no springtails or other insects. I also don't know if this would work on their eggs though. Ideally, I want bugs gone, moss alive and toxin-free.

Stefan-A

11-06-2012, 04:11 PM

Give it a shot. Tell us how it works out. Try freezing, too.

RedSidedSPR

11-06-2012, 04:37 PM

Would live to know, try it!

RedSidedSPR

11-06-2012, 04:50 PM

There's some big *** creature circumnavigating my wall/ceiling.

It's large.

CrazyHedgehog

11-06-2012, 04:58 PM

So the look of disbelief on the elderly couples faces as they looked from the little lonely candle burning in their hallway back to me trying to explain that through their mottled stain glass door it really did look like their hall was on fire....well I will take the stupidity prize today!!
doh!

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 05:07 PM

When I think of misperception I think of this saying which I use quite often: "I don't have an attitude problem, you have a perception problem" :p

Having perception problems today?

CrazyHedgehog

11-06-2012, 05:17 PM

Oh Yes!
to be fair, it was in a funny glass bowl which made it look bigger, and then the mottled stain glass window just distorted it and made it look huge.. wouldn't have slept if I had walked passed!

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 05:22 PM

I remember a while back, the whole neighborhood was convinced we had been visited by a UFO. This went on night after night for quite some time. I even saw it myself. This thing was only seen at night, high at the top of a tree line. At night it looked like it was above the tree line, and moving a little. I decided to investigate during the daytime and found a mylar baloon caught in the trees. Hard to see during the day, but at night, it reflected moonlight.:rolleyes:

RedSidedSPR

11-06-2012, 05:29 PM

It's times like those that show just how much the world WANTS to be visited by UFO's

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 05:32 PM

Anyone have Jack Neary's number? He's dropped the ball on me. Should have heard from him by Sunday night. If he wants his snake, he'd better get ahold of me asap or it's going to someone else.

Stefan-A

11-06-2012, 05:43 PM

It's times like those that show just how much the world WANTS to be visited by UFO's
They haven't watched enough scifi.

guidofatherof5

11-06-2012, 05:47 PM

Anyone have Jack Neary's number? He's dropped the ball on me. Should have heard from him by Sunday night. If he wants his snake, he'd better get ahold of me asap or it's going to someone else.

Sorry, don't have that one.

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 05:49 PM

They haven't watched enough scifi.

Or enough science fact, for that matter. Any civilization smart enough to achieve interstellar travel might very well protect themselves from our microbes but do they give a damn about introducing foreign ones to our world? I just don't see them shaking bare hands with us without disasterous consequences for them, and us. It would be much safer to completey stay out of our atmosphere.

Stefan-A

11-06-2012, 05:57 PM

Or enough science fact, for that matter. Any civilization smart enough to achieve interstellar travel might very well protect themselves from our microbes but do they give a damn about introducing foreign ones to our world? I just don't see them shaking bare hands with us without disasterous consequences for them, and us. It would be much safer to completey stay out of our atmosphere.
Implying they have anything remotely similar on their own worlds and that they have advance knowledge of ours.

Any civilization smart enough to achieve interstellar travel would just send robots.

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 05:58 PM

Good point

ProXimuS

11-06-2012, 07:36 PM

Well....What was it?:p

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 07:37 PM

What?

RedSidedSPR

11-06-2012, 08:17 PM

Huh?

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 10:16 PM

Old video clip I just now got around to uploading. Just shows the habitat where I find the anery concinnus'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oeRrihFLiA&feature=youtu.be

RedSidedSPR

11-06-2012, 10:46 PM

Looks like the place ive been going to for the past 3 years.

Have yet to find a snake there.

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 11:15 PM

Recreational Marijuana use / posession is now legal for adults over 21 in Washington, Colorado, and possibly other states. It passed.:eek: I-502 PASSED!

guidofatherof5

11-06-2012, 11:21 PM

Recreational Marijuana use / posession is now legal for adults over 21 in Washington, Colorado, and possibly other states. It passed.:eek: I-502 PASSED!

:mad:

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 11:30 PM

Prohibition doesn't work Steve. It just flat out doesn't work. All it does is put all the revenue in the hands of criminals and terrorists. At least now, good people don't have to go to jail for smokin' a little weed, and the state can collect billions in taxes. The people have spoken.

guidofatherof5

11-06-2012, 11:39 PM

Invisible Snake

11-06-2012, 11:40 PM

So Obama won...

ConcinusMan

11-06-2012, 11:42 PM

Not yet.

Wait. Way to early to call anything. Honestly, I don't know why they report it as "passed" or call an election this early. Votes haven't been counted! The NO votes for 1-502 are going up. The YES votes are going down. Might not pass afterall. Why call it so early? bastards.

RedSidedSPR

11-07-2012, 12:08 AM

This ^

It really is dumb..

ConcinusMan

11-07-2012, 12:14 AM

OK, I'm not worried now. It passed. About time people woke up. A bunch of states also legalized, and a bunch more passed medical use. Now for the federal govt. to step up. This is democracy dammit. The people have voted.

http://oi47.tinypic.com/2m5h6d1.jpg

Stefan-A

11-07-2012, 02:10 AM

ConcinusMan

11-07-2012, 02:17 AM

Don't have a heart attack

You don't understand. this is historic. All the years I've been alive they couldn't even get it on the ballot, then it goes and passes the first time. Totally unexpected.

Might even help get us out of this crappy economy. I hope this means these states that legalized can now grow hemp. Obama already flat out said that he's not using one ounce of justice dept. resources to circumvent state law. No plans to enforce federal law in states that pass marijuana laws.

Stefan-A

11-07-2012, 02:45 AM

You don't understand. this is historic.
Actually, I do.

ConcinusMan

11-07-2012, 02:54 AM

I just never expected it to be 100% legal anywhere in the U.S. in my lifetime and in recent years I thought it would be California before anywhere else. I mean, when I went down there last Sept. weed was growing everywhere in full view. Like it was no big deal. As normal as growing tomatoes.

Off the subject... wow. wish I had $350 to spare before they sold. good deal: http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/sale-trade-adoption/11680-lots-garters.html

guidofatherof5

11-07-2012, 06:03 AM

Needless to say I am saddened by this news.

kueluck

11-07-2012, 06:13 AM

Stefan-A

11-07-2012, 06:20 AM

It's the peoples choice. You know, the generation that has had no discipline, everyone is a winner, the world owes them, & they can do as they please. It making it hard for me to love my country and THAT saddens me.
Which generation was that? Seriously. If there is such a generation, it hasn't reached voting age and even if it had, its voter turnout would be the lowest and hence its influence would be the smallest.

Light of Dae

11-07-2012, 06:47 AM

That is kinda neat about legalizing pot... It's good for a number of reasons....
First it will be tax money for the state and will diminish money in criminals hands. Why buy from a shady guy on the street or where ever when you can go to the store?

It's better then booze in the way that booze makes people loose self control and often fight n end up being a fool. Where as pot lol you just get lazy, get the munchies n then go to bed. I've never seen anyone smoke a joint then pick a fight lol

I've smoked it, I don't really care for it anymore unless I want to fall asleep right quick lol

I do think it will be hard on cops to regulate the driving under the influence though. Mind you its not like people who are high tend to speed or swerve all over the road, they tend to drive slower n have a slower reaction time. Pedestrians will have to pay a little more attention. It will be interesting to see how they try to do a blood test regulation system...

Chulio

11-07-2012, 10:12 AM

When your fouteen year old starts smoking weed, grades go from A's to F's and he then starts using other drugs and wastes 10 years of his life you might not think pot is so cool. By the way that fourteen year old was me.
Taxes from it might be good though maybe we can become Amsterdam. Even if it is legal there will still be people selling it to kids and that is not good.

I have not been high since 6-26-1980 and while everybody won't do what I did there is defiantly a connection between chronic pot, alcohol and drugs users and lack of success.

Stefan-A

11-07-2012, 10:43 AM

With money currently going to less than upstanding citizens and the illegal trade spawning violence and property crimes, and the users ending up serving time instead of contributing to society, I don't see how society can afford not to legalize it. There isn't going to be a perfect, working solution, might as well focus on harm reduction.

Amsterdam has stopped selling to tourists, if I remember correctly. The tourists ended up costing more than they brought in.

ConcinusMan

11-07-2012, 11:12 AM

Needless to say I am saddened by this news.

Why is that? Nothing really changed except that now this multi-billion dollar industry will operate in the light of day and pay taxes instead of operating behind closed doors and in back alleys. You can't regulate or tax an industry if it's illegal. If your concerned about our youth or if you think more people are going to run out and start smoking it, I think you're wrong. History (it's been done in other countries) proves that doesn't happen. In fact, if anything, drug use (of all kinds) goes down.

I do think it will be hard on cops to regulate the driving under the influence though. Pedestrians will have to pay a little more attention.

I disagree. If anything, it will be easier to monitor and catch people driving under the influence. And why would pedestrians need to pay any more attention than they already do? If anything, the new law will most likely reduce the number of people driving under the influence or that will at least stay the same.

When your fouteen year old starts smoking weed, grades go from A's to F's and he then starts using other drugs and wastes 10 years of his life you might not think pot is so cool. By the way that fourteen year old was me.
Taxes from it might be good though maybe we can become Amsterdam. Even if it is legal there will still be people selling it to kids and that is not good.

Your forgetting one thing. The illegal pot dealer doesn't care if his customer is 14. The state does, and that's why it will be 21 and over. Think about it. It's been done before when they lifted prohibition on alcohol. It greatly reduced availability to children, it didn't increase it. I keep hearing the same arguments and the reality is completely different. Your concerns are unfounded in reality. I also think you're confusing pot smoking as the cause of bad grades and other negative consequences. It's more like a symptom of whatever else is causing grades to fail.

And by the way, despite what most people think, it's still not 100% legal in Amsterdam and it's even 100% illegal for non-residents to purchase the stuff. I'm sorry, but that's not legalization.

Give it some time. You'll see this is a good thing. You guys might think I'm defending it because now I can smoke the stuff legally and I'm a pot head. Well your wrong. I already smoke it legally. I'm defending it because this law is good for society.

Steveo

11-07-2012, 12:00 PM

The MMJ industry is a sham anyway. Say your medications give you nausea and you get a red card. Eighty percent of red card holders in CO are 25 or younger. Kids already get it anyway, red card holders buy for their friends, etc. I don't smoke, never have, never will, but regulating it, getting transactions out in the open, and holding people accountable is the right way to go. It's not going to be like alcohol because smoking is banned almost everywhere outside of private residences. Let the stoners get high on their couches and they'll stop congregating in public parks (where the dealers are) and being a nuisance.

EasternGirl

11-07-2012, 12:01 PM

I really hate to discuss the pot thing or the politics thing...too many fights can stem from it. But I do have my opinions. I was also a teenage druggie and drunk...but I don't disagree with legalizing pot for people over 21...not if alcohol is legal. I see more problems with alcohol than I do weed. You don't see many potheads going out driving around and killing people...they usually just sit on the couch and veg out. Would I choose to be a pothead? No. Would I want my son to be a pothead? No. Would I smoke a ton of it if I were going through chemo or dying in some kind of pain? Yes. Different law, I know...but just expressing where I stand with it. And I am glad Obama won.

It is supposed to snow here today. It won't amount to anything...but it could cause enough problems to get my math class canceled!

Steveo

11-07-2012, 12:19 PM

Admittedly, I voted no on the proposition was because the regulation is pretty fuzzy. But it is a step in the right direction.

ConcinusMan

11-07-2012, 12:34 PM

Yes, it's fuzzy but unless they legalize first, there will be no regulation or rules. All of that will work itself out in time. Clark co (voted 50/50) is just now getting around to setting up rules for medical grower co-ops. It will take time, and problems, as they arise, (and they will) will be addressed. It's not going to be perfect, but it should still be better than prohibition. I think it will greatly improve public safety and it will also solve the budget crisis.

guidofatherof5

11-07-2012, 01:49 PM

Improve public safety I doubt and money isn't everything.
Legalizing something doesn't make it right/safe/good for the overall public. Alcohol is a fine example. The cost of alcohol to this country/world far exceeds any taxes taken it. This country spends far more to treat the problems of alcohol then it benefits from revenue. The emotional toll itself is far reaching and affects generation after generation.
Medical use of pot is a joke. I see the medical use and understand it. Some illnesses/diseases(terminal cancers, severe glaucoma, etc.) that can't be treated with mainstream medicine are benefited by THC but that's not what is happening. Every idiot with a pain can go get a script and smoke all they want.
No, this is wrong. A problem is still a problem even if legalized. It just changes the surface but the costs are still there and will continue to impact the uses and the people that come in contact with them.
Shame on those who put money ahead of everything. This new freedom isn't free at all.
Just my opinion.

Stefan-A

11-07-2012, 02:02 PM

I suggest we end the political discussion here. Any objections?

guidofatherof5

11-07-2012, 02:14 PM

None here.

ConcinusMan

11-07-2012, 04:02 PM

Done. Check this out. Funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ntq3hd-WQc

OK, the squirrels I can understand, but I just caught a bird in the house. Oregon Junco. Crazy animals.

http://pabirds.org/images/Photos/081124OregonJunco1.jpg

Invisible Snake

11-07-2012, 05:19 PM

It's snowing here in New York..

ConcinusMan

11-07-2012, 05:30 PM

I suggest we end the political discussion here. Any objections?

Just one more thing. :D

http://oi50.tinypic.com/20rtjqo.jpg

kueluck

11-07-2012, 05:38 PM

I'm talking the age group of 18 to 30 year old. Back in the day when I was going up you were taught to respect your parents, never spoke back to elders, took pride in earning money, whether is was done by paper route, mowing yards or babysitting the neighbors kids. Now kids go to school, and are pushed through the educational system. When that bells rings at the end of the day, they pull out their i-pads & phones and spend their time texting friends, playing games or searching the internet. In sports everyone gets a ribbon for participation. And heaven forbid you raise your hand at your OWN kid who is throwing a tantrum in the middle of the store because Mom said no to the new video game. This is the generation I'm talking about. People are more worried about gay marriage and smoking dope than the important issues, meaning the economy and how it's effecting the actual day to day life. But then this country seems to have given up on Yawah God, the family unit and just about everything else I grew up with. The moral compass sucks. Ok, I'm done with my rant.

Which generation was that? Seriously. If there is such a generation, it hasn't reached voting age and even if it had, its voter turnout would be the lowest and hence its influence would be the smallest.

Chulio

11-07-2012, 06:13 PM

I only see those Junco's in the winter on the ground by my feeder. Never had one as a quest.

Stefan-A

11-07-2012, 06:42 PM

I'm talking the age group of 18 to 30 year old.
Who are the laziest voters and smallest age group. Blaming them is absolutely ridiculous.

I had a lot more to say about the rant, but I'm going to leave it unsaid.

RedSidedSPR

11-07-2012, 07:54 PM

Done. Check this out. Funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ntq3hd-WQc

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ConcinusMan

11-07-2012, 08:33 PM

Love the two captions starting at 2:31. Aint it the truth!

I only see those Junco's in the winter on the ground by my feeder. Never had one as a quest.

Well, my little "guest" is a year 'round resident. They nest on the ground in summer, preferring short lawns which is kinda stupid. There's a video on the internet somewhere of a puget sound garter feeding on them. They feed on seeds in the winter, but feed almost entirely on insects in summer. They don't visit my feeders much, if at all, during nesting season. If I find that video again, I'll post it in the "found on youtube" thread.

-MARWOLAETH-

11-08-2012, 06:21 AM

Every generation since the 30's have been blaming their kids so theirs nothing new there.

Chulio

11-08-2012, 09:59 AM

ConcinnusMan (http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/members/concinnusman.html) I would like to see that video.

How come the garters in the in my area have a blueish tint but in other areas they have red. never saw anything around here with any red in it at all.

EasternGirl

11-08-2012, 10:17 AM

What kind of garter do you have in your area?
It did not snow here last night. I was disappointed. I love snow. I didn't go to class anyway because it was icy rain and windy...did not feel like driving in it.

I got my tentative schedule for clinicals in January. You can choose the option of watching your lectures at home on the computer and then going to actual clinical sites on Mondays and Tuesdays from 6:30a-2:00p or 2:00p-10:00p...umm...getting up at 4:00am to go to work? No thank you. Unfortunately there are only 16 spaces in the evening clinicals. Please say a prayer for me that I get into those. Marnie trying to do nursing procedures at 6:00am is not good! The uniforms are atrocious. White scrub tops with hunter green scrub pants and a green student nurse patch on my shoulder. I will look like a girl scout! Thin mints anyone?

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 11:18 AM

ConcinnusMan (http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/members/concinnusman.html) I would like to see that video.

I didn't immediately find it upon searching but I do remember where it was shared. Field Herp Forums. It's a large pickeringi and it appears that it was raiding the (ground) nest of a Junco when an adult Junco tried to intervene but then the adult bird got grabbed by the snake.

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 11:29 AM

Another large (and ancient) reptile species goes extinct this year. The other was a subspecies of Komodo that went extinct earlier this year. Last Wild Siamese Crocodile in Vietnam Found Strangled to Death [Updated] | Extinction Countdown, Scientific American Blog Network (http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown/2012/10/12/last-siamese-crocodile-vietnam-strangled/)

CrazyHedgehog

11-08-2012, 11:42 AM

I had a lot more to say about the rant, but I'm going to leave it unsaid.
Stefan? are you ill?:p

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 11:53 AM

Probably just tired. It does get tiring responding to nonsense. Reality has already proven that all these concerns that the opposers have are complete hogwash. I haven't seen a single reason for opposing that was based in reality but it goes without saying that the reality is ignored by those people. If they want to watch reefer madness and take it as a factual documentary, there's not much one can say to convince them otherwise so it just gets tiring.

The fact is, everyone wins with legalization. Both sides lose with prohibition. Seems that the side that opposes didn't learn a dang thing from history when they tried to prohibit alcohol. The benefits of lifting MJ prohibition are the same as it was for alcohol only I predict we won't have the same social issues that comes with alcohol abuse. Why do I say that? Because those problems don't exist currently. Making it legal changes nothing as far as that's concerned. By far the greatest social problems and harm we have that are caused by weed stem from the fact that it's illegal. Is legalization going to be completely without problems? Highly unlikely but it will still be better than it was. On a separate issue is the prohibition of industrial hemp, lumping it into the same catagory as mj grown for it's drug content. Obviously this is just plain stupid. We import all our hemp and hemp products when we should be growing and exporting it.

Now, there's no reason we can't discuss this without people getting offended or pissed off. If you're getting upset, then check yourself and don't participate in the conversation. There's no reason why mature adults can't agree to disagree.

guidofatherof5

11-08-2012, 12:19 PM

"Reefer Madness" you have to be kidding me. I base my opinion on 28 years in law enforcement working with the families of this innocent drug. It really become a no win for everyone. Sure the people that sit around getting stoned think it's a good thing but that isn't reality/truth.
I for one think a life without drugs is the best choice. The consequences for that choice is a better life, plain and simple.
Just my strong and unwavering opinion.

Stefan-A

11-08-2012, 01:06 PM

Stefan? are you ill?:p
On my hard drive there is a folder, where I have a substantial collection of replies to various people on various boards, and that I chose not post either because they would have sparked a debate I would have felt compelled to participate in until I'm either banned or the last man standing, or they would have burned bridges I still wished to preserve, or both. The term "broadside" would be an understatement in most cases. Suffice it to say, kueluck's position is diametrically opposed to mine.

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 01:08 PM

"Reefer Madness" you have to be kidding me. I base my opinion on 28 years in law enforcement working with the families of this innocent drug. Sure the people that sit around getting stoned think it's a good thing but that isn't reality/truth.

The reality/truth is that a large portion of users don't "sit around getting stoned", don't smoke and drive, and do not work under the influence either, (myself included) but instead are responsible, productive members of society. Many of them are in professional positions such as Doctors, lawyers, and even law enforcement. Of course "losers" are going to abuse drugs/alcohol. None of that changes just because it's made legal or illegal, so you can't blame the drug or it's legal status. Just because these people you see happen to smoke weed doesn't mean that the weed is to blame for their problems. (legal problems perhaps, but we know what causes that) I respect your choice to lead a life without drugs. All I'm asking is that we have the choice when it comes to pot, without fear of prosecution for responsible use. Believe it or not, we're not all a bunch of losers sitting around getting high. Of course, you wouldn't see that aspect in law enforcement because that segment of society doesn't have negative encounters with law enforcement. You aren't called to their houses. You even consider some of them your friends.

Nothing is really going to change. The people that don't use, will continue to abstain, the losers will continue to abuse, and the ones that use responsibly will continue to do so. Whether it's legal or not. You have no control if it's illegal. The only way to reduce the harm to society is to legalize and regulate. Should we legalize things like meth, cocaine, heroin? Hell no, but we aren't talking about a mind altering drug, we're talking about a mood altering drug.

guidofatherof5

11-08-2012, 01:56 PM

You are entitled you your opinion as well as I.

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 02:17 PM

http://oi48.tinypic.com/rho0hh.jpg

A funny thing just happened. When I uploaded this image, I had to enter a captcha first. The captcha was "dog eat dog"

I still can't help thinking your view on the stuff is biased because of what you've seen in law enforcement Steve. But I dunno. Maybe not. Most of the law enforcement officers in the Vancouver area (and possibly Seattle too) are actully relieved that it passed and many even voted yes. They really don't like arresting good people for something they view as "the least" of societies problems. Besides, they gotta fill out reports, take the time to bring them in for booking, etc., and that takes them away from catching real bad guys. A lot of officers around here feel that way. I've even noticed that if they can arrest you for anything else, they usually decline to book you for posession, even if you had it on you at the time of your arrest. Of course, they make exceptions if you're an uncooperative a-hole or if they know you did something worse but think it won't stick. Basically the cops here don't view it as a crime in itself but will use it to nail people that deserve to be nailed.

I've been caught with it 3 times. I was never charged or arrested at all those times, and I suspect that's because I was cooperative and told them I had it before they had a chance to find it on their own. Also, I had done nothing else wrong.

guidofatherof5

11-08-2012, 02:55 PM

I guess you are right, I am biased. Biased towards what is best for families, children and society over all.
"the least" of societies problems. I certainly don't see this as a benefit to society. We've just lowered our standards again.
We are on a slippery slope. The problem is we seem to get used to the grade and don't even feel the slide.
I think I will strive for what is better for all rather then what is popular for a few.
Asking for or even expecting what is best seems to be a thing of the passed but I will sleep better knowing I tried.
What would be better, a life with or without drugs in it?

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 03:10 PM

What would be better, a life with or without drugs in it?

Not going to argue that but, obviously we can't have a society without drugs because prohibition is ineffective. The point is, what is better, to have a billion dollar industry operate under the table where it can't be regulated at all, or in the light of day where it can be regulated and taxed? Was it better to have alcohol production and sales controlled by thugs, and alcohol use happen in an unlicensed secret establishment, or is better to have it be legal so there can be some control over it?

Personally, I would rather alcohol and tobacco didn't exist at all, but given the choice between prohibition and legalization, the latter seems to be the wiser choice.

I still think we wouldn't be having this conversation if the completely idiotic law of prohibiting it in the first place, hadn't been passed. It was passed because people made the decision based on lies. They were lied to, and made their decision based on those lies.

Invisible Snake

11-08-2012, 03:41 PM

America has been fighting a losing war for a very long time, the "Drug War". Maybe it's time to go in a different direction?

Stefan-A

11-08-2012, 03:44 PM

I guess you are right, I am biased. Biased towards what is best for families, children and society over all.
We all want what's best for families, children and society. How to achieve it is a different matter, and what ideals people hold highest varies from person to person. I accept some freedoms, even if they come at a cost. Hell, every freedom comes at a cost and not just when it's acquired. The freedom to eat unhealthy food comes at a cost. I don't mean to preach about freedom, but we already allow unhealthy behavior on the grounds that there are some things governments shouldn't be able to touch.

What would be better, a life with or without drugs in it?
I don't know the answer to that question. I've seen what some drugs (and addictions in general) do to people, yet some people insist that other drugs significantly improve their quality of life. I don't know if any of that even matters.

Chulio

11-08-2012, 04:15 PM

"The reality/truth is that a large portion of users don't "sit around getting stoned", don't smoke and drive, and do not work under the influence either, (myself included) but instead are responsible, productive members of society."

I respect your opinion but you must live in a completely different place than I do.
I grew up and out of my old neighborhood. Maybe Wisconsin is different and it may very well be. but the vast majority of pot smokers here sit around and get stoned. Most from my old neighborhood also take xxanex and crack. I am sure there are many good people who smoke pot. It does not mean they are bad. I was a part of the culture for years and the average pot smoker in my area are not the achievers.

Take kids from my neighborhood which is pretty nice now. After school a group takes guitar lessons or band or sports. The other group smokes behind the library. I don't have to tell who Steve will be dealing with.
I do get what you are saying about the benifits.

I understand that being against drugs and being against legalization are to different things.
Just like my mind is set so is yours but I totally disagree that every point against is wrong. Agree to disagree.
By the way if I was dying of cancer I would most likely start smoking again. Just being honest.

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 04:25 PM

We all want what's best for families, children and society. How to achieve it is a different matter, and what ideals people hold highest varies from person to person. I accept some freedoms, even if they come at a cost. Hell, every freedom comes at a cost and not just when it's acquired. The freedom to eat unhealthy food comes at a cost. I don't mean to preach about freedom, but we already allow unhealthy behavior on the grounds that there are some things governments shouldn't be able to touch.

I don't know the answer to that question. I've seen what some drugs (and addictions in general) do to people, yet some people insist that other drugs significantly improve their quality of life. I don't know if any of that even matters.

It doesn't matter. What matters is that you have the freedom to choose to use it, or not to use it, so long as you use it in a manner that does not harm others. Being prohibited, it is not only harming the user, but people who don't even use it at all. It finances terrorism and other criminal enterprises and organizations, costs taxpayers billions of dollars to fight a losing battle, jails people who are good parents while their kids go to foster care, the list goes on. Like I was saying, we aren't even going to notice anything change other than 2 billion in taxes coming into the state in the next 5 years, elimination of the cost of prosecuting/encarceration, more of those who smoke and drive getting held responsible, less availability to those under 21, etc. It's not like society is going to fall apart anymore than it already is.

And I can speak from first hand experience about addiction and what drugs do and I can tell you that I don't find pot addicting in the slightest bit. I can't say that about methamphetamine. That **** nearly destroyed my life and it wasn't easy to quit doing it in spite of the numerous negative consequences to my health and sanity. It alters your mind, your way of thinking, and turns into something you're not and that something isn't pretty. I have experienced zero negative effects from pot, and zero addiction. It doesn't bother me one bit if I don't have it or if I decide to stop using it for a time. I just do it. No withdrawal, no addiction. I also experience no change in thinking or personality with or without it. What I do experience is a greatly reduced level of anxiety, less depressed, increased appetite, more restful sleep. Those positive effects continue for at least a day, while the "high" only lasts an hour or two at the most. I'm not going to pretend I don't experience some side effects but those only seem to happen during the first hour or two after use and that is, short term memory loss, slowed reaction time so therefore I'm not about to drive or try to learn a skill while on it.

At various times in my life, especially after quitting meth, I've had anxiety issues that really interfered with having a normal life. I tried various medications, mostly benzodiazipines and while some were effective, the side effects were horrible. Weed worked so much better. While I might forget what I was talking about on weed, I would forget an entire day on the prescriptions. A whole day, blank. No memory of what I did or where I was. Screw that, I'll take the pot.

-MARWOLAETH-

11-08-2012, 04:52 PM

Another benefit for it being legalized is it won't be cut with all sorts to give a bigger profit for the dealers.

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 05:03 PM

Another myth. Reminds me of when mom used to say "you don't know what that stuff is laced with"

I'm like uhh...

If it was laced with anything I would be getting charged extra. I mean, c'mon. It's already profitable enough, and there is no practical way to "cut" weed. What are you going to cut it with, oregano? Gimmie a break. Any user would spot that a mile away. We know what weed looks like and there's nothing that matches it. Can't say that about coke and meth and besides, profits aren't the only reason for cutting those. The main reason is that they are extremely potent when approaching 90 percent purity, and dead customers are bad for business.

I dont' care if you have the most potent weed on earth, it's not going to kill your customers. And there's no need to "cut" it. You simply charge more per ounce, and your customers who appreciate quality will happily pay it. I am greatly interested in hearing your ideas on how you're going to cut this:

http://media.nowpublic.net/images//6d/d/6dd214c9110b1c1077a9e63211848014.jpg

But you're right about one thing. Legally sold weed will be screened for molds, insecticides, and other contaminants, as medical MJ is.

Invisible Snake

11-08-2012, 05:11 PM

Another myth. Reminds me of when mom used to say "you don't know what that stuff is laced with"

I'm like uhh...

If it was laced with anything I would be getting charged extra. I mean, c'mon. It's already profitable enough, and there is no practical way to "cut" weed. What are you going to cut it with, oregano? Gimmie a break. Any user would spot that a mile away. We know what weed looks like and there's nothing that matches it. Can't say that about coke and meth and besides, profits aren't the only reason for cutting those. The main reason is that they are extremely potent when approaching 90 percent purity, and dead customers are bad for business.

I dont' care if you have the most potent weed on earth, it's not going to kill your customers. And there's no need to "cut" it. You simply charge more per ounce, and your customers who appreciate quality will happily pay it.

In NYC.. Some dealers lightly spray weed with roach spray or other stuff.. The theory is that it gets the customers more f-ed up from smoking just 1 joint and they will come back for more and also spread the word that this particular dealer has some great stuff..

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 05:14 PM

And the minute I took one toke, I would know, and in the garbage it would go. Hey, that rhymes. That **** has petroleum distillates in it. You don't think I would notice the taste? That's like saying you wouldn't notice if I put motor oil in your drink. Well, I don't know how it is in other parts of the country, but no such measures are needed here and I couldn't smoke a whole joint if I wanted to. All it takes is 1-2 tokes and you're as high as you're going to get. Any more than that is just a waste because you won't get "higher" by smoking more.

MCwyo

11-08-2012, 05:49 PM

My take on this is that I would rather see pot regulated than not. I do not smoke, and I have no desire to. I did try it when I was a kid and it was just not for me.

I see weed as no more of a vice than alchohol, tobaccoo, or fast food. I don't think it's healthy and I don't want to do it. I know plenty of people who use weed and maintain their jobs and manage their lives just fine. I don't care if they want to make the personal choice to fill their lungs with pot smoke, any more than I don't care if they want to go home and have a few beers after work or smoke a pack of ciggs a day. Some people are going to use it, most are not. I do not think pot can be placed in the same group as coke, meth, heroine, ect.

I also know several people whos lives/health have been seriously damaged, or even ended, by BAD batches of weed. Because some idiot decided to lace it with something. I would rather that the government regulate it and set industry standards so as to make it safer.

** Just wanted to ad a note to my last statement about lacing. I suppose frequency varries in different parts of the country, but lacing dose happen, and it can cause a lot of damage to ususpecting people. Sometimes it's done for effect, sometimes it's done with intent to harm. The risk of getting a bad batch of pot IS there. I believe gov't regulation would make weed safer for those who choose to use it.

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 07:50 PM

Can't really afford to not legalize.

The government would save an estimated $13.7 billion on prohibition enforcement costs and tax revenue by legalizing marijuana, according to a paper endorsed by 300 economists (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/17/economists-marijuana-legalization_n_1431840.html).

$500 Million In Tax Revenue For Washington State

It's estimated that Washington's legalization of marijuana could bring the state an additional $500 million in tax revenue (http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/marijuana-legalization-decision-washington-colorado-oregon-can-pot-stimulate-the-economy), WPTV reports.

$60 Million Saved By Colorado Legalization

Colorado's pot legalization legislation, Amendment 64, is estimated to create $60 million for the state in combined savings and additional tax revenue (http://csbj.com/2012/11/02/marijuana-economic-stimulant-or-just-a-can-of-worms/), Colorado Springs Business Journal reports.

Legalization Could Reduce Marijuana Prices

Marijuana users could see substantial savings due to marijuana legalization, as prices could fall by up to 100 times (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/legalizing-marijuana-washington-colorado_n_2088375.html?1352310298), perhaps freeing up some cash to spend on other things, which is good for the economy.

Huge Prison Cost Savings

Inmates incarcerated on marijuana-related charges cost U.S. prisons $1 billion annually, according to a 2007 study, AlterNet reports (http://www.alternet.org/rights/47815/).

Marijuana Prohibition Costs Taxpayers $41.8 Billion A Year

Including lost tax revenues, a 2007 study found that enforcing the marijuana prohibition costs tax payers $41.8 billion annually, Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/2007/09/29/marijuana-laws-work-biz-cx_qh_1001pot.html) reports.

California Marijuana Crop Worth $14 Billion A Year

Marijuana growers account for $14 billion a year in sales in California (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1884956,00.html), making it the state's most valuable cash crop, TIME reports.

Illegal Marijuana A $36 Billion A Year Industry

It's estimated that illegal marijuana is a $36 billion industry (http://madamenoire.com/106691/capitalizing-on-the-billion-dollar-marijuana-industry/) in the U.S., MadameNoire reports.

Mendocino Zip Tie Program Raised $600,000

Mendocino County, California's zip tie program aimed at regulating medical marijuana growing by charging permits for each plant raised $600,000 in revenue in for the Sheriff's department (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/09/medical-marijuana-license-mendocino_n_1193198.html) in 2011.

Each weGrow Center Creates 75 Jobs

When hydroponic marijuana growing supply chain weGrow opens a new store it creates an estimated 75 jobs (http://aznow.biz/small-biz/wegrow-phoenix-opens-cultivates-opportunities-arizona%29) indirectly, according to AZBusiness Magazine.

Legal Marijuana Could Be $100 Billion Industry

Economist Stephen Easton estimated in 2010 that legal marijuana could be a $45 to $100 billion industry (http://www.businessweek.com/debateroom/archives/2010/03/legalize_mariju.html), Bloomberg Businessweek reports.

guidofatherof5

11-08-2012, 08:16 PM

Rose colored glasses.

ConcinusMan

11-08-2012, 08:41 PM

It's already been done before. Or did we forget already?

National prohibition of alcohol (1920-33)--the "noble experiment"--was undertaken to reduce crime and corruption, solve social problems, reduce the tax burden created by prisons and poorhouses, and improve health and hygiene in America. The results of that experiment clearly indicate that it was a miserable failure on all counts. The evidence affirms sound economic theory, which predicts that prohibition of mutually beneficial exchanges is doomed to failure.

Although consumption of alcohol fell at the beginning of Prohibition, it subsequently increased. Alcohol became more dangerous to consume; crime increased and became "organized"; the court and prison systems were stretched to the breaking point; and corruption of public officials was rampant. No measurable gains were made in productivity or reduced absenteeism. Prohibition removed a significant source of tax revenue and greatly increased government spending.

Invisible Snake

11-08-2012, 08:49 PM

Speaking of prohibition, there is a great show called "Boardwalk Empire". The setting is 1920's with corrupt politicians, gangsters and bootleggers. It's a great show and if you're a fan of Goodfellas, The Godfather, Casino, etc you will love this show.

guidofatherof5

11-08-2012, 09:17 PM

I'll say it again. Money isn't everything and everything shouldn't have a price.
The legalization and control of alcohol hasn't worked. I guess it's the "acceptable costs" of doing business.
I guess now we'll just have to accept the cost of marijuana too.:mad:

I have finished what I want to say on this subject.

ConcinusMan

11-09-2012, 01:32 AM

I'll say it again. Money isn't everything and everything shouldn't have a price.

I agree. It shouldn't be that way at all. It's unnatural. And it's unnatural because so is the current level of "civilization" we now enjoy. The only thing holding social order together and keeping people from just doing whatever the hell they want, is money, which in itself is an illusion. Apparently Governments just shut right the hell down without money. Without money, police quit patrolling the streets. Without money, fire stations close down, without money, you get what happened to the poorest parts of Detroit. No police, no fire... they just let it burn. You're on your own. and you get the very fabric of social order falling apart at the seams, like what's happening in Greece.

Do you have any idea the amount of bio fuel we can get from a field of industrial hemp? I don't, but I can assure you it's alot. These laws can help pave the way for growing hemp. It's not all about drug use.

I know you read your Bible Steve. You know what I'm talking about. All of mans efforts to govern himself will fail. Money/monetary systems will fail and with it Governments will fall. You know this to be true. I don't even believe everything I read in that book and even I can see it's coming.

I guess it's the "acceptable costs" of doing business.
I guess now we'll just have to accept the cost of marijuana too

Now you're getting it.;). Even though failure is inevitable, this is just one step to ensure that the fabric of society, held together by money, will live to see another day without falling apart completely.

Is money everything? No. It's nothing. Don't care about it myself. It's just a piece of paper. But I don't have to tell you what happens when the system breaks down. We've already witnessed what happens if you watch world news at all.

I don't like seeing the world getting one step closer to the big "A" anymore than you do, but it's happening. I highly doubt that legalization will help speed it up. If anything, it will help slow it down. Put it off for another day.

-MARWOLAETH-

11-09-2012, 04:26 AM

Hopefully now that Americas woken up Britain will too and stop wasting money fighting a useless battle

Stefan-A

11-09-2012, 07:02 AM

The only thing holding social order together and keeping people from just doing whatever the hell they want, is money, which in itself is an illusion.
The only thing that's ever held social order together, is the consensus of the members to hold it together.

Apparently Governments just shut right the hell down without money. Without money, police quit patrolling the streets. Without money, fire stations close down, without money, you get what happened to the poorest parts of Detroit. No police, no fire... they just let it burn. You're on your own. and you get the very fabric of social order falling apart at the seams, like what's happening in Greece.
You can't knock over a system and expect there to be no problems, but that's temporary. Where governments fall and police and fire departments cease to function, the people eventually take over. Which segment does it, is a different matter. It could be responsible members of society, it could be a single family or a clan (where those exist), or it could be gangs. The transition is unavoidable. When the cops disappear, armed citizens start patrolling. We still have volunteer fire departments all over the country, in virtually every town, because the distances are at times significant. Anarchy is not viable for the simple reason that there is always someone who's willing to either assume a leadership role, or grab power and there are always people who are willing to organize for the common good. Greece? Greece is going to topple its government and install a new one. Whether it's better or worse, is immaterial. Order will be restored immediately.

Money/monetary systems will fail and with it Governments will fall.
And new ones will rise in their place. That's how it's always been.

But I don't have to tell you what happens when the system breaks down. We've already witnessed what happens if you watch world news at all.
Crap flies around for a while and then things settle down and are reorganized.

I don't like seeing the world getting one step closer to the big "A" anymore than you do, but it's happening.
It's not happening.

EasternGirl

11-09-2012, 10:21 AM

I'm going to change the subject. My son has been making me watch crazy movies all week. Swamp Shark...a shark that jumps out of the water and eats people, Two-Headed Shark..a shark big enough to eat a couple of boats, at the same time...and Anaconda...in which it tells you in the beginning of the movie that many anacondas get to be over 40 feet long. Now, I looked that up...the biggest actually recorded anaconda was 25 feet...they have no documentation proving the existance of larger ones, although people have claimed to see 150 foot anacondas. Retics are bigger...and I think the biggest one, Fluffy, is 24 feet.

Light of Dae

11-09-2012, 10:32 AM

Well Looks like I get a long weekend, took today off so I could stay home n keep the house warm.... Seeing as half our power is out. It's really odd, no breakers are tripped (and I have reset everyone of them just in case) but half our house is powerless. Twitch, George and Flames are in the no power area so to keep temps up I'm home keeping the fire going.

A friend of ours is an electrician and will be stopping by when he can to see what on earth is going on.
This places power is so very weird... Last winter it seemed like we blew a breaker for the barn lights n plugs but there wasn't one tripped in any of the panels. (This house has three breaker panels) Now same kinda thing, missing power with no idea why.

Light of Dae

11-09-2012, 10:33 AM

oh btw Marnie... I'd like some thin mints lol

Didymus20X6

11-09-2012, 11:30 AM

ConcinusMan

11-09-2012, 12:24 PM

And new ones will rise in their place. That's how it's always been.

The point is, what happens in the mean time.

My main point is Steve's stance that "money isn't everything". Of course it isn't, but without it, we already know what happens. WA has shut down it's Govt. before due to lack of funds. It just floors me how many people are against paying more/higher taxes, then protest when services get cut. So, do we embrace and tax this already existing industry or do we embrace the reality of governments shutting down? There's really no other choices. It's one or the other. If someone else knows of a billion dollar industry besides marijuana that they would like to legalize, or have a better idea where we can save that much money and take in that much, speak up because I'd like to know what it is.

Chulio

11-09-2012, 01:52 PM

ConcinusMan

11-09-2012, 02:08 PM

Has anyone else seen this? It's an article about what I call "Chthulhu Snakes":

Bizarre tentacled snakes born at National Zoo - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57547191/bizarre-tentacled-snakes-born-at-national-zoo/)

I think I'm more interested in the ad on that page for the 2012 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show highlights. :p

Light of Dae

11-09-2012, 02:16 PM

Light Of Day

Sounds like one of your power legs is off. Most modern day homes have at least two wires coming in that are separate legs (so you can have 220-240 and more outlets) This happens when a main breaker is bad or a wire outside is broken
Are you in the Hurricane Area?
Good Luck

lol This place is no where near modern. I also am far far away from any hurricane reach, protected by mountains on the west n miles n miles of prairies to the east, Alberta Canada baby!

Our friend fixed it, it was a really old plug that had shorted inside simply ending the circuit without tripping breakers :P

ConcinusMan

11-09-2012, 02:43 PM

Ooops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGYjVS9R8A

Weird. Really weird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXdR8juULok

ConcinusMan

11-09-2012, 04:22 PM

Cold coffee and no moisturiser: Breivik's prison complaints - Times LIVE (http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/2012/11/09/cold-coffee-and-no-moisturiser-breivik-s-prison-complaints)

Wow. Man faces child porn charges after tow-truck staffers find memory card - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/fl-palm-beach-gardens-porn-arrest-20121108,0,3306659.story)

ConcinusMan

11-09-2012, 05:56 PM

Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol on human breast cancer :

It has been recently shown that cannabinoids, the active components of marijuana and their derivatives, inhibit cell cycle progression of human breast cancer cells. Here we studied the mechanism of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) antiproliferative action in these cells, and show that it involves the modulation of JunD, a member of the AP-1 transcription factor family.

THC activates JunD both by upregulating gene expression and by translocating the protein to the nuclear compartment, and these events are accompanied by a decrease in cell proliferation. Of interest, neither JunD activation nor proliferation inhibition was observed in human non-tumour mammary epithelial cells exposed to THC. We confirmed the importance of JunD in THC action by RNA interference and genetic ablation.

Thus, in both JunD-silenced human breast cancer cells and JunD knockout mice-derived immortalized fibroblasts, the antiproliferative effect exerted by THC was significantly diminished. Gene array and siRNA experiments support that the cyclin-dependent kinase inhibitor p27 and the tumour suppressor gene testin are candidate JunD targets in cannabinoid action.

In addition, our data suggest that the stress-regulated protein p8 participates in THC antiproliferative action in a JunD-independent manner. In summary, this is the first report showing not only that cannabinoids regulate JunD but, more generally, that JunD activation reduces the proliferation of cancer cells, which points to a new target to inhibit breast cancer progression.

(article source: letfreedomgrow.com)

In case anyone is interested in the actual wording of WA's new law, here it is: http://sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/initiatives/i502.pdf

guidofatherof5

11-09-2012, 07:18 PM

Let us not forget the consequences that come from the use of marijuana. I think it's great that medicine is finding a valuable use for it but it does come at a cost.
Marijuana is additive and it can lead to other drug use. Most dope smokers are also using other drugs, legal or not.
This drug comes with an economic/productivity price to this country.
I don't want to here about the responsible marijuana smoker who follow all the rules and only smoke at home, never before driving and never before work or dealing with family situation or interacting with other. It's a load of crap.
Marijuana does affect the user's ability to function as they would normally. Reminds me of the beer company warning, "Know when to say when"
How are you suppose to say "no" when the substance you are using affects your ability to know when. How about this one "Think when you drink"
It's a joke played so many.
I've dealt with good people using marijuana. Those good people still made bad decision while using. This isn't some innocent drug. I'm sure they felt bad for the things/situations they were in but the fact is the drug had a direct effect on what happened. Good people wouldn't do the things they did right? must have been something else.
Said the frog to the scorpion "Why did you sting me? now we're both going to die" and the scorpion replied "I'm a scorpion it's what we do"
I'm not trying to rain on your parade Richard but there are two sides to everything and I for one think the legalization was wrong.
I hope they continue to find good uses for marijuana and I hope it helps many but the facts are it will hurt many also.
Another legal, recreational drug isn't what this country needs. I hate to say it but this legalization trend will probably continue and this countries slide will continue also.

ConcinusMan

11-09-2012, 08:29 PM

Marijuana is additive... Most dope smokers are also using other drugs, legal or not..... It's a load of crap.

You got that right. On both accounts.

guidofatherof5

11-09-2012, 08:54 PM

You got that right. On both accounts.

Funny stuff :D

ConcinusMan

11-09-2012, 09:05 PM

"it's a load of crap" is what I was referring to. You're right. Both prior statements are load of crap. Any place, any time it's been legalized or not enforced, use of other drugs went down, not up. Everyone I know that smokes it, has no problem saying no at times when it's not appropriate, or if they need to abstain for a month to pass a UA. If that's addiction, I'll take it. Also, I know perhaps two dozen people that smoke it, and the do not do other drugs. The "gateway" theory is just another lie.

If anything, it helped me get off other drugs. Furthermore, it's been over a month since I had any, and I don't care. It doesn't bother me one bit because it's not addictive. I can take it or leave it.

guidofatherof5

11-09-2012, 09:29 PM

Good for you.

guidofatherof5

11-09-2012, 09:44 PM

I for one think this thread and this forum isn't the place to debate this but I won't sit idly by while you promote your pro-drug point of view.

ConcinusMan

11-09-2012, 11:11 PM

http://youtu.be/9v43AlwdNDM

Not "pro-drug" just pro legalization, and just for weed. and post 12632 had nothing to do with my point of view. But if you're going to get all bent out of shape about it we can just change the subject.

guidofatherof5

11-09-2012, 11:39 PM

Well, if you're going to get all bent out of shape we can just can the subject.;)

EasternGirl

11-10-2012, 12:39 PM

The tentacled snake is really weird looking. Has anyone actually seen Anaconda? That snake looks so fake I was falling on the floor laughing. It's head is bigger than my body and it looks like a fake python getting ready to shed. Cee Cee is getting ready to shed and her eyes are all cloudy and she keeps slowly poking her head out of her cave with this mean look on her face...so we are calling her Anaconda right now. I got some funny pics...

Anaconda is coming to get you! 7425

Is it like Annual Stupid Snake Movie Week or something? They keep showing all of the Anaconda movies and Snakes on a Plane on cable.

guidofatherof5

11-10-2012, 12:41 PM

I like Cee Cee. Good looking snake.

-MARWOLAETH-

11-10-2012, 01:50 PM

An even more stupid film is Sharks in Venice.Marnie,you will piss yourself laughing at that film.The plot is ridiculous the CGI is beyond terrible also Steven Baldwin has teeny tiny eyes like a pig LOOOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDD9jGMlxNQ

Stefan-A

11-10-2012, 01:59 PM

guidofatherof5

11-10-2012, 02:02 PM

Wow. That's bad.

ConcinusMan

11-10-2012, 03:50 PM

Shared on facebook:

http://oi47.tinypic.com/b97sqb.jpg

When I went to upload the image to tinypic.com, check out the captcha they presented to me:

Funny!

http://oi47.tinypic.com/5zo40i.jpg

guidofatherof5

11-10-2012, 05:53 PM

Sweet spider. Let it go............back in the house.:D

ConcinusMan

11-10-2012, 06:27 PM

I don't believe this. Now tinypic.com rickrolled me!

http://oi50.tinypic.com/2e52r0i.jpg

Didymus20X6

11-11-2012, 02:28 AM

I'm hoping that in the next Avengers movie, they'll have Hydra invade the SHIELD helicarrier. That way, Samuel L. Jackson can say, "That's it! I've had it with these... Oh, never mind!"

Stefan-A

11-11-2012, 02:52 AM

I'm hoping that in the next Avengers movie, they'll have Hydra invade the SHIELD helicarrier. That way, Samuel L. Jackson can say, "That's it! I've had it with these... Oh, never mind!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejxR0zGaflg

ConcinusMan

11-11-2012, 03:33 AM

That was bad. ^^^

I have some beautiful Thamnophis proximus Ribbon Snakes for sale! These are truly beautiful snakes and usually not the easiest to come across. Please contact me for pricing and pictures. The price is usually around $40 ($20 for newborns, $30 for yearlings, $40 for sub-adults, $50 for breeding size).

Seriously? Things are way different here I guess. I see them in pet stores all the time. Very common. $5 - $10 for young adults and they usually have a lot of them. :confused:

thamneil

11-11-2012, 03:36 AM

While they are rare here, they are nowhere near those prices. Typically around $20 each. But then again, Greg's may be captive produced.

Why are you up so late? :p

ConcinusMan

11-11-2012, 03:38 AM

I usually am lately. But I was just about to call it a night.

thamneil

11-11-2012, 03:39 AM

I should probably go to bed to...

Goodnight!

ConcinusMan

11-11-2012, 03:48 AM

Yeah, and every time I'm about to, someone on facebook ... well, you know...

posts a picture of boobs or something else I can't pull myself away from.:p

G'nite

mikem

11-11-2012, 12:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejxR0zGaflg
I can't stop replaying this, hahaha! I'm going to use that in my signature for a bit :p

ConcinusMan

11-11-2012, 02:17 PM

ConcinusMan

11-11-2012, 04:59 PM

http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/102420120300161.gif

guidofatherof5

11-11-2012, 08:05 PM

Shhhhh, new walking dead episode just started :D

ConcinusMan

11-11-2012, 08:09 PM

Got netflix. No commercials and can watch anytime I please. Still haven't watched it on netflix though. I saw the first few episodes a while back on cable and wasn't impressed.

I sure enjoy "Jerico", "Revolution" and "Terra Nova" though.

If you haven't seen Revolution, check it out. It's pretty good, and you can catch up here for free. Click "video" to see all the full episodes available. It airs very Monday at 10pm pacific on NBC but I prefer to wait a day and watch it online. Fewer commercials. Oh shoot. The first two episodes are no longer available online. Oh well. http://www.nbc.com/revolution/

MCwyo

11-12-2012, 02:30 PM

Fingers crossed! There's been some snags with the house we put an offer on but we should finally find out this evening or tomorrow if it's going to be accepted. I'm going crazy waiting!!!

ConcinusMan

11-12-2012, 02:53 PM

http://i50.tinypic.com/350a0bd.jpg

Stefan-A

11-12-2012, 04:50 PM

Why Saturn?

ConcinusMan

11-12-2012, 04:54 PM

Why not?

Stefan-A

11-12-2012, 05:26 PM

It doesn't make any sense.

ConcinusMan

11-12-2012, 05:37 PM

Trying to make sense of senseless things again? :p

Stefan-A

11-13-2012, 01:59 AM

Trying to make sense of senseless things again? :p
If it's senseless, they've wasted half a joke.

mikem

11-13-2012, 09:09 AM

I think it's because Saturn is instantly recognizable as a planet. If the artist had used a different planet, half the joke may have been wasted on people trying to figure out who's diagnosing earth.

ConcinusMan

11-13-2012, 11:28 AM

Could have used the sun.

Check it out. Don's wandering garters are practically famous. This clip on my channel reached over 200,000 views:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWtrzR0nE-I

Next stop, Hollywood?

MCwyo

11-13-2012, 06:16 PM

Our house offer fell apart today... maybe I should take a look at this Idaho snake house!! LOL

What a crazy story! I didn't like the way they portrayed the garters (seems they went with the scary, gross, dirty, disease ridden reptile slant) though I can definitly see how such a large invasion would be a big problem.

ConcinusMan

11-13-2012, 06:25 PM

Only one problem. The snakes are either gone, or the house will not be for sale until they are gone. Speaking of "for sale"...

http://www.funnysignpics.com/images/turdles-funny-sign.jpg

Stefan-A

11-13-2012, 06:58 PM

Not sure I would like to own a turdle.

guidofatherof5

11-13-2012, 07:21 PM

Not sure I would like to own a turdle.

I have a special enclosure for mine but don't keep them.:D

Stefan-A

11-13-2012, 07:30 PM

I have a special enclosure for mine but don't keep them.:D
I have heard that many people flush them down the toilet when they grow tired of them.

ConcinusMan

11-13-2012, 08:08 PM

No, those are turds. A turdle is one of those things that runners jump over, only it's covered in ****.

-MARWOLAETH-

11-14-2012, 05:18 AM

I have heard that many people flush them down the toilet when they grow tired of them.
In Cardiff discarded terrapins are becoming a problem The heat is on and terrapins are going wild - News - The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-heat-is-on-and-terrapins-are-going-wild-1246615.html)

Invisible Snake

11-14-2012, 07:20 AM

Cobra eats Puff Adder

http://www.wildcard.co.za/blog.htm?action=view-post&id=1474

guidofatherof5

11-14-2012, 07:23 AM

Very cool. Thanks for the post.

BLUESIRTALIS

11-14-2012, 07:42 AM

Sorry it didn't work out. When i first bought my house we went through three different contracts and the first one didn't pass inspections, the second on the day before closing we were told we were going to have to move on because the house had a lien against it so we were so disappointed at this time we wanted to switch realtors, but she called us up and said that she found us a house and we are so glad that the first two didn't work out because now we have what we really wanted.When you find the right house everything will fall into place. It took us well over a year to get our house, but now i have 2.5 acres a nice snake room and a nice house with huge rooms so were not cramped at all. I wish you the best of luck with your house hunting.

Our house offer fell apart today... maybe I should take a look at this Idaho snake house!! LOL

What a crazy story! I didn't like the way they portrayed the garters (seems they went with the scary, gross, dirty, disease ridden reptile slant) though I can definitly see how such a large invasion would be a big problem.

BLUESIRTALIS

11-14-2012, 09:39 AM

is this dude selling hisself?

Only one problem. The snakes are either gone, or the house will not be for sale until they are gone. Speaking of "for sale"...

http://www.funnysignpics.com/images/turdles-funny-sign.jpg

EasternGirl

11-14-2012, 11:51 AM

Lots to respond to here...hmmm...let's see...first, did they edit MFs with Monkey Fighting snakes? Is that what he was saying? That is too monkey fighting funny! I lost respect for Sam when he did that movie. If it is stupid and it is about some kind of large animal eating people...I'm sure my son will find the movie on cable and make me watch it. Now, he keeps trying to watch Cops. Talk about a show that makes Americans look like idiots. I will not let him watch it. I thought the Broke Back joke was funny too. I think that if you are making fun of a person in particular because he or she is gay, that is one thing...but we have to have a sense of humor about life. No one was making fun of homosexuals. My house is falling apart too. The heat went out this morning...luckily, we have portable heaters. The snakes have their heat lamps. Ummm...and just to let everyone know...that house in Idaho is mine! Sorry...if you want it...you have to come live with me when I buy it. Turdles swim in water...turds get flushed. The big spider...that is a wolf spider, yes? If it crawled on me in my house...I would move the monkey fighting out of here! Steve sent me a really awesome book about snakes and medicine...will be great for my paper and it is an awesome book in general! See...Steve is a true friend! That's all folks...

Chulio

11-14-2012, 01:21 PM

Sorry your house offer fell apart. That happened to us too many years ago and two weeks later we were so happy it did because we found our true dream house. We lived there 20 years until I sold it this after losing Nancy

Sometimes the wait is worth it. I wish you guys luck

Marnie cops is the original reality show! You son is to young for much of that content. The people on there are pretty stupid. My favorite stupid episodes
Lady who called cops because she gave $20 to a dealer and was ripped off
Guy who had a bag of crack in his pocket and says "these are not my pants"
All the people who say "do you know who I am, I'm going to get you fired"

guidofatherof5

11-14-2012, 02:00 PM

Here's a good one.
While I was out working one night parked on the shoulder of the road waiting for a drunk driver to drive by a car pulled in front of me. A drunk got out of his car and walked back to me to tell me I should turn on my lights because it was dangerous to have them off.
I did turn on my lights, just not the ones he meant. All the way to jail he kept yelling "You can't arrest me, I stopped you"
Funny stuff.:D

Stefan-A

11-14-2012, 02:12 PM

I once had a cop refuse to sign a gun permit application, because it said Ruger MK II on the barrel instead of Ruger MK512.

ConcinusMan

11-14-2012, 02:13 PM

Found this on a fishing forum. Guy found a striped CA king in his yard (native where he is) and and didn't know what it was. He asked his fishing buddies. The snake was correctly identified, but one person said it was striped because it was a "baby" (far from it, was at least 2 feet long) and when it becomes an adult, it will "look like this" (showed picture of a banded king). How ridiculous. But it doesn't end there. Someone else said ...

"a word of warning though, since they do feed on rattlers as everyone has been saying, you will want to avoid the bite of a king, since some of the venom will be left in the jaws of the king if he has recently dined on rattlers"

Preposterous!

guidofatherof5

11-14-2012, 02:13 PM

I once had a cop refuse to sign a gun permit application, because it said Ruger MK II on the barrel instead of Ruger MK512.

And then?

Stefan-A

11-14-2012, 02:21 PM

And then?
Came back the next day and had it signed by another cop. :rolleyes:

ProXimuS

11-14-2012, 02:23 PM

LMAO! That's pretty funny Steve...What an idiot....

Chulio I seen the one with the lady who got ripped off by the dealer, and when they get there the "Dealer" says she doesn't sell crack, she's a prostitute:rolleyes:(If that's the same one.)

-MARWOLAETH-

11-14-2012, 04:50 PM

Lol

allendale65

11-14-2012, 05:40 PM

Spooner (redsided MALE) will not stop trying to mate with Rooster (red spotted -- ALSO MALE) since this morning at like 6:00..

And I don't mean just getting on top of him like before. There's stuff going on down there....

Took him out for like an hour when it looked like Rooster was starting to get annoyed.. Second I put him in again he lunged on rooster and continued.

I'm assuming there's nothing I can do or be concerned about though. ?

Strange.

Uhh....were you watching Broke Back Mt where the snakes could see it?? ;)

Easy with the jokes, there.

Well I thought it was funny. I think that the spirit of the wise-crack is whats important. The target of the joke isn't homosexuals, it's the snakes and that movie. At least that's how I see it. I showed this to a gay friend on facebook. He thought it was funny too.

However, I would have to agree that this forum isn't the place for it.

The trouble with the truth is that the original post has been edited. When I saw it and took a date- and time-stamped screen capture of it on November 10th, it, of course, read differently.

Therein lies the denouement.

So, to be correct, anyone who wrote it, read it, replied to the unedited post before the time I unfortunately read it at 5:06 PM, or moderated it, knows exactly what it said. I am unaware as to why an edited post is not labeled as such.

Thank you to kueluck for apologizing for something that you had nothing with which to do. That behavior sets a good example for our children and others needing a reminder of what basic etiquette propounds.

I would have loved to report to this forum that my radix gave birth to 97 babies. I would have loved to report on the progress of the young. I would have loved to give updates and submit photos of the mother and young. I would have loved to report on the history of the mother and the father snake. I would have loved to report on the care I give to run-over snakes, in hopes of saving more which others find. I would have loved to feel safe to ask questions regarding the present or future care of my snakes. I would have loved to be a part of this forum.

Just as worrisome as the original, unedited post was, is the willful and/or knowing attempt of anyone to deflect what was the true reason for certain offense taken.

Thank you to those email friends who have made snake care information available to me. Thank you for your many kindnesses. Please continue with your gracious and good work on this forum. And remember that that is all it ever takes – graciousness. Graciousness in an outstretched hand. Graciousness in a daily good deed. Graciousness in setting a good example. Graciousness in trying always to do the correct thing.

guidofatherof5

11-14-2012, 07:51 PM

There's no reason you can't be a part of this forum.:) You made the above post and are welcome to make others.;)
I for one would love to hear all I can about that record setting T.radix female.

Invisible Snake

11-15-2012, 06:58 AM

House spider nearly killed me and left my arm savagely scarred | The Sun |News (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4644865/House-spider-nearly-killed-me.html)

ProXimuS

11-15-2012, 10:26 AM

Another reason to not be a fan of spiders...

Invisible Snake

11-15-2012, 10:33 AM

Rat kill in Galapagos Islands targets 180 million - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/rat-kill-galapagos-islands-targets-180-million-230705262.html)

ConcinusMan

11-15-2012, 11:42 AM

House spider nearly killed me and left my arm savagely scarred | The Sun |News (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4644865/House-spider-nearly-killed-me.html)

Same species bit me a few years back. (introduced and thriving in the NW) Within 72 hours I had a fever, a purple knot the size of a golf ball, with red streaks going up my arm. I was hospitalized. It wasn't the venom that does it, it's the ensuing infection by MRSA. They had to cut me open and pack the wound with iodine-soaked gauze strips. Had to keep the wound open and packed in order for it to heal from the inside out. Still have a scar. I've had several MRSA boils just pop up out of nowhere, elsewhere on my body, ever since that bite. They were just as bad as the bite, only I didn't wait 3 days to get treatment. Again, it's not the venom, it's the infection that gets you.

People are actually to blame for this. Hospitals, and the overuse of antibiotics over the years created this strain of staph. The spider is just a carrier.

guidofatherof5

11-15-2012, 08:09 PM

Watching TV tonight I saw the Fiat commercial where they drive the cars into the water and they come ashore in the U.S.
While this is going on there is a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen "Fictionalized, Do Not Attempt"
Has it really come to that? Really. Are there people dumb enough.......... Never mind, just I answered my own question.

ConcinusMan

11-15-2012, 08:11 PM

How about "do not drive or operate machinery" label on children's medications?

The notice you speak of is necessary due to the "truth in advertising" act.

-MARWOLAETH-

11-16-2012, 04:46 AM

Not quite as random as this advert though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5IpEjE7bso

EasternGirl

11-16-2012, 07:31 AM

Actually my son saw that commercial and was like "Look, Mom! They have cars that can go under water now!"...Rofl.

So...listen to this...I walk into my living room last night and my ex-husband and our son are watching Rattlesnake Republic. The episode is about rounding up snakes to strip them of their skin, sell it, and then eat the meat of the snakes. I start flipping out! I'm yelling for them to turn off the damn show that my friends and I are working to get off the air. I tell them that show will not be watched in my house. My ex gets angry and pouts for a while and then leaves. Is he really that stupid? Does he not understand how that show would offend me? Now, I remember why I divorced him. Mind you, this is the same person who was watching Cops with my son. After he left, I had a talk with my son explaining what rattlesnake roundups are and why we are all working to get that banned and that show off the air. My son said he had no idea and was sorry. I told him I wanted him to love and appreciate all animals and never to watch shows like that. My stupid, pouting ex can expect a nice talk from me when he comes back. I am still angry. Even my mother said "How can he not understand why that show would offend you?"

Chulio

11-16-2012, 11:02 AM

I just saw the commercial lol

I bought a new drill and it had pictures with big red x's of what not to do.
The best was a guy waist deep in water drilling a motor boat with the drill plugged in.

Most things you buy today have more pages of warnings than instructions.

And yes Steve it has come to that

ConcinusMan

11-16-2012, 02:00 PM

You can thank blood thirsty laywers and decades of frivilous lawsuits for that.

ConcinusMan

11-16-2012, 02:06 PM

Hey, I was going to reply to a post but obviously a series of them were deleted before I had the chance. What I was going to say is, those posts were not edited as Bruce seems to think. Posts that are edited are marked as edited. I for one am sick of people making mountains out of mole hills. Get a thicker skin. I sure as heck don't go getting bent out of shape when a black person calls me a racial slur. We're all targets. Get over it.

Stefan-A

11-16-2012, 02:53 PM

Posts that are edited are marked as edited.
Only if the moderator who edits them takes the time to fill in the reason for editing. Speaking of which, one single word was in fact edited. A pun, that on one hand meant exactly what it was edited into and on the other hand, could well be taken as a slur.

I for one am sick of people making mountains out of mole hills. Get a thicker skin. I sure as heck don't go getting bent out of shape when a black person calls me a racial slur. We're all targets. Get over it.
Some targets come under heavier fire than others and that needs to be taken into consideration. Also, this is the wrong place to be a richard. This is a place where people are supposed to be able to let their guard down and not have to worry about unjustified hostility or be constantly reminded of it.

Oh, I do love hearing how people should grow thicker skin, coming from people who have never had theirs even exposed to anything abrasive.

ConcinusMan

11-16-2012, 03:26 PM

Only if the moderator who edits them takes the time to fill in the reason for editing.

I did not know that obviously. I know that when I edit, it is marked as edited, even if I don't fill in a reason.

ConcinusMan

11-16-2012, 03:28 PM

Oh, I do love hearing how people should grow thicker skin, coming from people who have never had theirs even exposed to anything abrasive.

Grew up with red hair, freckle-faced, skinny as a rail, and a severe overbite. No, I haven't experienced anything abrasive.:rolleyes:

The sooner you learn how to not let it bother you, the sooner it won't bother you and you get on with your life instead of letting consume you and define who you are.

Stefan-A

11-16-2012, 04:04 PM

Grew up with red hair, freckle-faced, skinny as a rail, and a severe overbite. No, I haven't experienced anything abrasive.:rolleyes:
That's it? Apart from maybe Eric Cartman, has anyone called for the extermination of red haired, freckled, skinny, people with overbites, for example? Has it been a crime at some point? Has it been classified as a mental illness? As an adult, are you considered a pariah, at least in some parts of the country? Are you denied rights because of that overbite? Are there well-funded campaigns to keep those rights from you? Do freckles come with a death sentence somewhere in the world? Do people beat your kind to death for any of those traits?

The sooner you learn how to not let it bother you,
I'll just leave this here, in case someone wants to grow a sense of perspective.

ConcinusMan

11-16-2012, 04:46 PM

That's it? Apart from maybe Eric Cartman, has anyone called for the extermination of red haired, freckled, skinny, people with overbites, for example? Has it been a crime at some point? Has it been classified as a mental illness? As an adult, are you considered a pariah, at least in some parts of the country? Are you denied rights because of that overbite? Are there well-funded campaigns to keep those rights from you? Do freckles come with a death sentence somewhere in the world? Do people beat your kind to death for any of those traits?

And when all that goes away it's not enough. It's never enough. People will just find something else to get bent out of shape about. I'm not saying people should persecute any group of people. I just tire of the whole "political correctness" crap and when someone breaks from that, people getting all up in arms about it.

Anyway, apparently I didn't see the unedited posts, saw no slur, so I was not understanding what the big deal was. All I saw was a reference to a movie. Had I known about the edit, we wouldn't be having this dialogue.

And what about the "marked as edited" thing. seems like sometimes it does it, sometimes not.

Stefan-A

11-16-2012, 05:14 PM

And when all that goes away it's not enough. It's never enough. People will just find something else to get bent out of shape about.
We'll see, when something does go away.

I just tire of the whole "political correctness" crap and when someone breaks from that, people getting all up in arms about it.
I'm tired of pointless complaints about "political correctness". Especially when what is supposedly "politically correct" is about as politically incorrect as it can get.

ConcinusMan

11-16-2012, 06:48 PM

Good. Now we're all sick of something. We're even.:p

ProXimuS

11-16-2012, 07:27 PM

I'm sick of the cold weather...

Light of Dae

11-17-2012, 09:52 AM

I am MOVING!!! Yea New place has natural gas so we can have even heating in the house rather then our current wood stove n fans... Currently we have closed off half the house cause its to hard to heat ... however our bathroom is back there... It is a very cold thing to do in the morning....

Anyways the new place should be way warmer with double pane windows and all lol Meeting new landlord sometime today to get keys and paper work.

I'm sure my snakes will enjoy not freezing at night lol In this house it gets down to 12'C They got heat mats but still ambient air temps is cold.

Light of Dae

11-17-2012, 09:57 AM

lol My toes being cold and my snakes are my main reason for moving honestly lol The new place is about a mile away. Half mile east then Half mile south OFF THE MAIN HIGHWAY!!!!! And we are now going to be the end on a dead end road :) No traffic noise! No Dog on the highway! Lots of trees! No noisey neighbour that start their LOUD arse truck at 3:30 am Every night... er morning.

Ok so I have a few more reasons for moving but snakes are tied at #1 with dog running on highway!

Chulio

11-17-2012, 12:26 PM

Wow I finally figured out what that series of posts was about.
I am a person of balance.
One thing I have learned is most people , most of the time view everything they say or do based on how it relates to their lives. While I do understand this at times it can drive me a little nuts but then I try to find my balance again. I do see what ConcinnusMan (http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/members/concinnusman.html) means though. How you react to something said it what gives the statement the real power.

It is easy to say it but harder to live it but balance is the key.
The woman who killed my wife gets out of jail next month and she will be monitored for drugs & alcohol as well as driving for 2 1/2 more years. many friends and family members hope the day she gets out she drives a car or drinks so she goes back to jail. They hate her so bad wish one of her family members would be killed by a drunk driver so she can see how it feels. I even got hate mail from the drunk drivers family even though my wife was the one who was killed and I never said a negative word in the press. What did I learn from all this.
I hope the woman never drinks and drives again and meets all her parole requirements. I won't be her friend but it took me a long time to get where she has no control over me or my life.

Everybody should be more kind and thoughtful of others but if they are not, do not give them the power over you.
You and only you control how you feel. (unless someone is choking you)
It is hard work but it really does work.

Peace

Jimi

Light of Dae

11-17-2012, 01:58 PM

I hope the woman never drinks and drives again and meets all her parole requirements. I won't be her friend but it took me a long time to get where she has no control over me or my life.

Everybody should be more kind and thoughtful of others but if they are not, do not give them the power over you.
You and only you control how you feel. (unless someone is choking you)
It is hard work but it really does work.

You just earned my respect. Very well put and it is an extremely hard thing to do. That understanding of power n how you give a person power over you by being angry or upset over something they did or said, is a Very tough lesson learned.

Good job man.

I respect you.

(unless someone is choking you)

I like your humor too lol Good way to break it up.

At least I find humor in it... whether or not it was meant as funny... :D

ConcinusMan

11-17-2012, 02:34 PM

How you react to something said it what gives the statement the real power.
do not give them the power over you.
You and only you control how you feel.

Exactly. Words only hurt if you voluntarily let them. The choice is entirely yours. It's not what happens, or what is said to you, that determines your mental/emotional health and self-esteem. It's how/if you choose to react that determines those things. I know a few homosexuals and they are my friends. They would have laughed at those kind of jokes. They are some of the happiest people I know because they don't let it bother them.

Stefan-A

11-17-2012, 03:02 PM

This is about more than just words and ignoring problems doesn't make them go away.

ConcinusMan

11-17-2012, 03:13 PM

Nor does letting them tear you up inside. it's not about making them go away. It's about not letting them make you unhappy/hurt. This is not to say you should accept it though.

Stefan-A

11-17-2012, 03:25 PM

Nor does letting them tear you up inside. it's not about making them go away. It's about not letting them make you unhappy/hurt. This is not to say you should accept it though.
You just don't get it, do you. I just told you that it's not just about words and by extension, not about something that simply "makes you unhappy/hurt". How many times do you need that explained to you?

Invisible Snake

11-17-2012, 03:35 PM

I have no idea what's going on, can someone dumb it down for me?

Stefan-A

11-17-2012, 03:38 PM

I have no idea what's going on, can someone dumb it down for me?
People are getting upset over people getting upset.

ConcinusMan

11-17-2012, 03:42 PM

You just don't get it, do you. I just told you that it's not just about words and by extension, not about something that simply "makes you unhappy/hurt". How many times do you need that explained to you?

I don't. I'm not even on that subject. As usual, you're assuming I'm trying to make a point other than the one I'm trying to make.

Stefan-A

11-17-2012, 03:48 PM

I don't. I'm not even on that subject. As usual, you're assuming I'm trying to make a point other than the one I'm trying to make.
In other words, you're trying to make a point about an issue other than the one at hand.

ProXimuS

11-17-2012, 06:51 PM

Bigger Isn't Always Better - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PURruXCypQ&feature=g-vrec)

I just came across this video.....Is this guy killing all these babies for no apperant reason(to me)? I don't know anything about snakes in eggs....But I noticed some are moving and some are not. And I also feel like if they hadn't hatched themselves, they probably weren't ready to open...:( But maybe they can still live. I know at the Busch wild life sanctuaty in Florida I talked to one of the guys that works there about this "Special" alligator they have there. She was apperantly found as an opened egg, and was nothing but a yolk sack, and was wrapped in guaze until she matured and now she's huge.
7500
Just remembered I have this pic of her:)

Also isn't "leucistic" pronounced "leukistic" rather than "leusitic." I know the prefix "leuko" means white....So it would make sense.

ConcinusMan

11-17-2012, 07:16 PM

He's not killing them. He incubates to full term and when one or a few begin pipping, he opens them all. He says that if you don't do that, you'll lose some to suffocation. Whatever.:cool:

Both pronunciations are acceptable. I prefer the way he says it. I don't hear very many people pronounce it the other way.

90% of their videos are of them slitting eggs open. Gets boring after a while.

ProXimuS

11-17-2012, 07:28 PM

Ok....I didn't think he would just be killing them....I just didn't think you should be cutting open unhatched eggs....I mean if they were going to die of suffocation, then how do they survive in the wild? Does the mother snake come back after so long and slit the eggs open with her pocket knife?:rolleyes:

ConcinusMan

11-17-2012, 07:43 PM

I mean if they were going to die of suffocation, then how do they survive in the wild?

Who says they all do? That's irrelevant anyway. These aren't wild eggs. These are also taken from the mother and artificially incubated instead of cared for by the mother, not that it makes any difference. These guys claim that they don't lose any to suffocation if they slit them. Apparently, they do lose some if they don't cut them open. Sure, they haven't hatched but they are full-term. They don't cut them until eggs begin to pip. In other words, they are ready to hatch. After cutting, the snakes will have air to breathe. The only thing left to do is absorb the remaining yolk and they're ready to crawl out.

ProXimuS

11-17-2012, 08:02 PM

I wasn't implying that all eggs survive in the wild. I was just implying that if cutting open was mandatory, none would survive in the wild. I know these aren't wild snakes, but thats where they come from. I don't really even know what kind they are. I just know originally at some point thats where they came from....

ConcinusMan

11-17-2012, 08:06 PM

They're retics. (reticulated python) combo morphs.

Light of Dae

11-17-2012, 08:19 PM

Oh my gosh would you two stop it! You like two kids fighting! Knock it off or at lest do it in PM This is annoying. I come here to see happy posts not you two bicker! Take it to PM if you cannot put it to rest. There is FAR to much negativity in my life right now and you guys ain't helping.

Stephan and Richard..... SHUT UP!

Please and thank you.

MCwyo

11-17-2012, 09:33 PM

Here's a happy post!

My little sister (who used to be a vegatarian) Just got her first deer!!! A beautiful 6 X 4 whitetail buck. She made a perfect shot, double lung and also hit the heart, so a quick clean kill. The deer will fill her freezer and make many wonderful meals. I am so proud of her I could burst. My hobby is taxidermy, and within that hobby my specialty is skull cleaning, so I will have the absolute honor of cleaning her deer's skull for her.

Would anyone be offended if I posted a photo of her with her buck? I live in WY and this is everyday stuff to me, but I know that hunting is not everyone's cup of tea & I completely respect that...

On another note, on Monday we are going to make a third attempt at buying a house... I'm going to stop saying "this one could be the one", because I have come to realize that this is a very tough game. Stress levels are starting to rise to the breaking point, so.. che sara, sara (what will be, will be). Wish us luck!

Chulio

11-17-2012, 10:42 PM

Congrats to your sister. Good luck on the house too

Jimi

Light of Dae

11-17-2012, 10:48 PM

I'd like to see her first buck! That's awesome, I love Deer meat!

MCwyo

11-17-2012, 11:10 PM

Thanks Jimi! Here she is Light of Dae-

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guidofatherof5

11-17-2012, 11:13 PM

Very nice.

ProXimuS

11-17-2012, 11:36 PM

Wow that's a big deer! Nice job MCwyo's sister!

EasternGirl

11-18-2012, 01:10 PM

No no no...if we are going to talk about things that offend people...I don't want to see pics of shot deer. Some people are offended by that, you know. I understand some people shoot them for food...but I don't want to see pics of it. We can't laugh at a broke back mountain joke that was not intended to offend anyone but we can post pics of shot deer? I agree...it is time to take the politically correct argument to the PM's though. And I do not want to have a big argument about shooting deer either.

Change of topic...everyone on here knows that I am struggling with money. My heat keeps getting shut off because we cannot pay for it for crying out loud. My best friend from childhood is a big celeb photographer in NYC...when I talk to her...I get to hear about her paying 10 grand a month for her apartment and flying to Africa with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie to shoot footage. Last night, my first boyfriend, who I was with in high school and the beginning of college, called me. Mr. Money bags retired at age 40 and is staying in a $600 a night hotel while his house on Palm Beach is being built. He sent me a picture of the horse he bought, because he just felt like buying a horse. Can I go and jump off my roof that is leaking now? He did invite me to come to Florida for the weekend...on his dime though. I can't pass up a free weekend in money bag beach...lol.

ProXimuS

11-18-2012, 03:58 PM

What just happened to the forum.....I don't like it....

ConcinusMan

11-18-2012, 04:03 PM

Nothing that hasn't happened before. :rolleyes:

ProXimuS

11-18-2012, 04:05 PM

The update..?

I couldn't sign on for a good while, and then when I did everything is all different....I don't like change!:p

-MARWOLAETH-

11-18-2012, 04:09 PM

Don't worry.Baby otters make everything better
http://cutepics.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/adorable-otters.jpg

ConcinusMan

11-18-2012, 04:20 PM

Don't worry.Baby otters make everything better
http://cutepics.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/adorable-otters.jpg

Including outdoor wear such as coats, boots, etc.:D

*runs from angry pitchfork-wielding mob*

MCwyo

11-18-2012, 04:50 PM

Invisible Snake

11-19-2012, 06:53 AM

7515

-MARWOLAETH-

11-19-2012, 07:06 AM

7515
"Whats for tea ,Mam?"
"Lemmings"
"Ohh not again"

Stefan-A

11-19-2012, 07:16 AM

7515
There's only a contradiction there, if you ignore the reasons why someone dislikes hunting.

EasternGirl

11-19-2012, 03:12 PM

McWYO, it's okay, really...but thank you for understanding. I know I have to deal with the reality that animals are shot for meat. But, I am the type of person who will throw on my breaks and go through my windshield before hitting a squirrel. I'm just super-sensitive when it comes to animals. Again, thank you for your kindness and understanding. I don't think any less of you though...please know that. :)

Every year, for my birthday, I get a stomach virus. Two years ago, it was so bad, they had to rush me to the hospital in an ambulance and keep me on IV fluids and nausea/pain meds all night. This time it isn't so bad, but of course I have another dumb virus.

Oh...and I couldn't sign on all day yesterday...I haven't noticed the changes yet though.

EasternGirl

11-19-2012, 03:42 PM

Okay...just discovered the forum changes. Can anyone tell me how to get the forum pages to fit my screen? I have to scroll over to the right to read posts now.

guidofatherof5

11-19-2012, 04:06 PM

It appears the auto re-size function isn't turned on or isn't working.
I have a message into Boots about the situation.

MCwyo

11-19-2012, 11:31 PM

Thanks Marnie :) Here's a cool pic I think everyone can enjoy- this is my daughter chilling out with a mule deer we named "Nina". I take lots and lots of photos of Nina and her herd every year in the winter, but this photo is by far my favorite. I personally do not hunt, unless it's with my camera. I have spent many hours hanging out and observing the local deer, they are quite interesting to watch! I've had many wonderful close encounters with this particular doe, and I was happy to be able to share that with my daughter.

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