Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[ConcinusMan]

LOL yup that's don.

I wonder if the mother of his children knows about this.:p

[ConcinusMan]

Our local weather experts say there's no end to summer in the near future. No rain at all in the 10 day forecast. Upper 70's and low 80's. It's so friggin dry! Rivers are critically low. Small streams and ponds that haven't gone dry in years are gone. Bone dry. And this is following one of the wettest springs on record. It didn't stop raining until mid July and Sticking snow fell on the beaches in the middle of April!

[MCwyo]

That's how it's been here. I think I can count on one hand the number of times it's rained here this summer. Lots of wildfires in the surrounding area because it's so dry :( I just hope we have a better winter than last year.

[ConcinusMan]

Well yeah. A lot of the country is in a severe drought. Worst since the "Dust Bowl" era. Food prices are going to skyrocket very soon. WA isn't officially in a drought. Just a very dry summer. Our local corn crops are doing fantastic.

[CrazyHedgehog]

we have flooding!!! lots of crops failed this year to rain,

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I'll swap some rain clouds for some of your concinnus:D

[ConcinusMan]

I'll swap some rain clouds for some of your concinnus:D

Sure. The snakes will be there in a month or two, and arrive dead.:rolleyes:

[RedSidedSPR]

Won't stop raining here..... There's like a foot of water on our mostly-gravel driveway. I want the sun back lol

[ConcinusMan]

Wow. In about the past 3 months we got one good shower. 0.4 inches and that's it. Sunny and warm outside.:D

[RedSidedSPR]

Lmfao. Deserts.

[Chulio]

Saw the neighbor kids all freaking about something so I checked it out. Then I gave them a little education.

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[ProXimuS]

Nice goin Chulio;) What is that little guy? Do you know?

[RedSidedSPR]

Eastern garter snake.

I think.

[Chulio]

I don't know
All of the snakes I have ever caught were said to be easterns.
We once caught a Chicago but it was 40 miles south of here.

These kids were really freaked out at home as one girl said she see's them around the perimeter of her house.
I explained the fact that is where they catch all the mice and they quickly because snake fans

[snake man]

Looks alot like a ribbon.

[EasternGirl]

That's an eastern for sure. Looks just like my Cee Cee. The weather here has been too cold too soon. This is not good for having to sit at baseball games at night in the dark after the sun has gone down. Time to break out the longjohns. I think I am finally on the mend from this stomach thing...still not feeling completely up to par, but I'm not lying in bed with stomach pains anymore. My son and his friend are outside playing on a pogo stick. I've been sitting here for five minutes trying to figure out what the weird noise I'm hearing is. I thought one of my cats was having trouble breathing. It's the darn pogo stick going up and down outside my window!

In other news...my son has been complaining about his right arm hurting. He really wants to be a pitcher and his new coach has been letting him pitch entire innings. Yesterday he started looking like he was in pain while he was pitching and came off the field crying in pain. I'm not sure what is going on. He may have hurt his arm playing football at school. But also, his doctor just started him on a new medication...I'm worried that the medicine may be giving him muscle pain. He really needs the medicine, but he really loves pitching. It is a difficult situation.

[ProXimuS]

I wouldn't say ribbon. I can see some black markings on the lip scales.

I hope Julian's arm gets better. Maybe he's just gotta "break in" his shoulder for pitching.

[RedSidedSPR]

That's an eastern for sure. Looks just like my Cee Cee. The weather here has been too cold too soon. This is not good for having to sit at baseball games at night in the dark after the sun has gone down. Time to break out the longjohns. I think I am finally on the mend from this stomach thing...still not feeling completely up to par, but I'm not lying in bed with stomach pains anymore. My son and his friend are outside playing on a pogo stick. I've been sitting here for five minutes trying to figure out what the weird noise I'm hearing is. I thought one of my cats was having trouble breathing. It's the darn pogo stick going up and down outside my window!

In other news...my son has been complaining about his right arm hurting. He really wants to be a pitcher and his new coach has been letting him pitch entire innings. Yesterday he started looking like he was in pain while he was pitching and came off the field crying in pain. I'm not sure what is going on. He may have hurt his arm playing football at school. But also, his doctor just started him on a new medication...I'm worried that the medicine may be giving him muscle pain. He really needs the medicine, but he really loves pitching. It is a difficult situation.

How old is he? I pitched for awhile (and short stop) before i played football, I'd never let my coach take me out, therefore really wore my arm out.. wears your arm out for sure, but it should be fine by the next game, if it isn't, he shouldn't be pitching until he isn't hurting like that anyway cuz it's obviously not just sore. Unless he's like me and can pitch left handed too which I doubt, find out whats wrong before pitching again or he'll be out all season likely, depending on what's wrong. Been there done that.

And yeah if it's just sore then he just need to keep using it, that'll stop.

[Chulio]

If he pitched too much without proper coaching he most likely has soft tissue damage like tendonitis. if he backs off he will be ok.
Marnie I am glad you feel better.

Weird noises can be hard to figure out sometime and it can be funny when you fugure it out like a pogo stick.
Once we woke up in the middle of the night to a strange noise and thought someone was breaking into out basement door. I went downstairs in my underwear with my dog and a Samaria sword I kept near my bed. I open the door, nobody there so I walk around the outside of the house. I get to the front and a guy is waiting for the bus and see's me in my underwear with my dog and a sword and he just took off really fast and frightened. The noise ended up being our cat playing with a hear register in another room and the sound came into our room through the vent.
Things seem confusing at night. I bet that guy still tells his side of the story 30 years later

[EasternGirl]

Rofl...Jimi, that is a great story! I keep a dagger under my bed...lol. Well, my son is 10 and he has been pitching now for three seasons...although this is the first time he has pitched entire innings. This is definitely something new. He has been playing fantasy football at school and at the last baseball game, he complained his arm was sore and tired from playing football. But this time, he was in tears and he said it hurt really bad above the elbow and his hand was tingling. I'm wondering if he did something while playing football or if this new medicine could be doing this. We see his psychiatrist today...who prescribed the mood stabilizer. I will ask him about it. I think I will also take him to our family doc and see about getting an x-ray. He has a game tonight though. If I can talk him out of it...I really want him to not pitch tonight. He loves pitching though and he's pretty much the best pitcher the team has. He will feel that he is letting his team down. It's tough.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

That almost looks like a chicago/eastern intergrade everything looks chicago except it lacks the neck bars. Im sure it's just an eastern but it's very pretty.


Saw the neighbor kids all freaking about something so I checked it out. Then I gave them a little education.

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[Invisible Snake]

Hey may I ask why the http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/general-talk/11501-escapee-recaught-baggage.html thread was closed?

[Stefan-A]

Hey may I ask why the http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/general-talk/11501-escapee-recaught-baggage.html thread was closed?
It had served its purpose and turned into a bitchfest.

[Invisible Snake]

It had served its purpose and turned into a bitchfest.

True. I guess I wanted it to stay open so that other members could chime in and hopefully we could find a compromising solution for the babies.

[chris-uk]

True. I guess I wanted it to stay open so that other members could chime in and hopefully we could find a compromising solution for the babies.
I don't think there was anything more to be said - all the good advice was already given and either accepted or ignored. We'll know what the decision was if we see a post asking for good homes for a bunch of mutt hybrids, there's plenty of people who would keep them secure from escape and safe from breeding.

[EasternGirl]

True that. I am up early again...getting ready to go to a meeting at my son's school. Went to bed late...the baseball game ran late. Now, tomorrow morning, I have to get up even earlier and take my son for blood work. This schedule is killing me and I'm not even in clinicals yet. I think I am starting to look my age around my eyes...lol. I talked to my son's psychiatrist...he said that the new med should not be causing the arm problems. I talked to his coach and he did not have him pitch last night...he said he will wait until we know what is going on with the arm. I am going to try to get him in with our family doc asap to get his arm checked out. Thanks for all the advice about the arm!

[EasternGirl]

Okay...so, I have been pondering this question since last night. Not that I like seeing animals fighting or anything...but who do you think would win in a fight...a wolf or a panther? I'm saying panther.

[chris-uk]

Okay...so, I have been pondering this question since last night. Not that I like seeing animals fighting or anything...but who do you think would win in a fight...a wolf or a panther? I'm saying panther.
Animals of equal size? One on one?
Panther. It's a lone hunter, whereas a wolf would normally work in a pack. The panther has the advantage of agility and uses claws as weapons as well as teeth.


And....

Odd question to be pondering Marnie. :)

[-MARWOLAETH-]

The panther's claws and agility would beat the wolf.Normal cats claws bloody kill just imagine something 10 times bigger:eek:

We should start a thread "In a fight what would win" it'll be funny.

[Stefan-A]

It's not a hunting situation, though. Predatory attacks are easy compared to fights. They don't have the luxury of getting to choose their prey and performing surprise attacks.

The agility is not worth a lot, but the claws are a major advantage.

In the natural world, it would end with the "panther" vacating the area. In a confined space, it would end with the wolf, or both of them, dying from accumulated injuries sustained during multiple minor scraps.

[Stefan-A]

We should start a thread "In a fight what would win" it'll be funny.
First one to start a thread like that gets a permaban.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I was joking but message understood:)

[Stefan-A]

Lion-baiting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-baiting)
Monkey-baiting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey-baiting)

[guidofatherof5]

First one to start a thread like that gets a permaban.


I was joking but message understood:)

Son of Odin doesn't want to swing his hammer.:D

[RedSidedSPR]

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o511/k1lljoy_89/8C95D58C-7FF5-4C3A-8675-6134AC82305B-1764-000000792DA8AA14.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Perkele - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkele)

[chris-uk]

In the natural world, it would end with the "panther" vacating the area. In a confined space, it would end with the wolf, or both of them, dying from accumulated injuries sustained during multiple minor scraps.

Very true, I think you're right about the loose-loose scenario.

[guidofatherof5]

Went to a local grocery store. Bought 2 honey crisp apples $4.04
$2 an apple. Come on. That terrible.

[Invisible Snake]

October is one of my favorite months because of Halloween and the weeks leading up to it. I'm a big fan of horror and sci-fi :p

P.S. I don't dress up or go trick-or-treating, lol.

[RedSidedSPR]

Me too and me neither.

[EasternGirl]

I was watching True Blood and the werewolfs said that the werepanthers would be no match for them...and I was thinking...whatever...a panther would definitely take a wolf. Again...not saying I enjoy animal fighting or anything. I was just wondering about it. Like...someone once asked me...would I rather be killed by a crocodile attack or a venomous snake bite? Interesting thing to ponder.

Anyway...on the complete opposite side of things...who do I contact if I want to report a pet store for improper treatment of pets?

[-MARWOLAETH-]

A crocodile would probably grab you by the head and twist it off there's no antidote for that:p

[RedSidedSPR]

I love true blood lol. All 5 seasons.

I reported a petco to animal control once, they went over there, told them to fix the improperness within a week or whatever or they'll be back. Next time I went it was much better. But it was still petco..

[RedSidedSPR]

A crocodile would probably grab you by the head and twist it off there's no antidote for that:p

But it's quicker. Lol. The question was what you'd want to die by, not what you'd want to get bit by next to a hospital.

[Stefan-A]

A crocodile would probably grab you by the head and twist it off there's no antidote for that:p
Any part it could get hold of. Then it would drag you under water and drown you. If it seems like it can't do it, then the rolling starts. The upside is that if it only has your arm or foot, you might still survive.

Some snake venoms are pretty horrific by comparison. You better hope it's not something that liquifies your arm or leg, or makes you bleed out of every orifice.

[Light of Dae]

A crocodile would probably grab you by the head and twist it off there's no antidote for that:p

... How would it grab your head?
Would you be standing on waters edge, bent at the hips, Hands on thighs, head close to the water, saying
"Gee hunny come look at this! It looks like this green floatin stuff gots eyes in it!" .... AHH-- SPLASH!!!!


0.o
---

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Actually when I think about it i'd rather be had by a crocodile than get bitten by any of the Bitis family.First it would hurt before they inject because their fangs are massive.When they contract their venom glads the pump ridiculous amounts of venom into you and the bite are turns to strawberry jam...and then you die a couple of later.

[EasternGirl]

Yeah...I don't know...it's a tough call. I wouldn't even know which one to pick...unless I had a choice of the venomous snake...lol.

Well, maybe I'll call animal control. Something needs to be done. They have the poor little puppies in cages without towels under their feet so they can't move or their feet will fall through...and I saw an employee screaming at the dogs last night. I'm done with that place and I want to report them to someone.

[RedSidedSPR]

I go into petco regurally just to bitch at the employees lol. (which actually works, if you throw the animals abuse/animal control approach in there somewhere) They're clueless and don't give a crap about the animals well being. Report 'em or threaten to and you'll see a difference.

[Stefan-A]

If I get to choose the snake, I'd choose snakebite. I think there's a krait that sometimes manages to kill people without them ever knowing they've been bitten.

[ConcinusMan]

I go into petco regurally just to bitch at the employees lol. (which actually works, if you throw the animals abuse/animal control approach in there somewhere) They're clueless and don't give a crap about the animals well being. Report 'em or threaten to and you'll see a difference.

Seems a few stores are starting to slip again but Petco really changed for the better nationwide for that very reason. Too many people sending in animal control and/or complaining to corporate. Mainly because of bad conditions for their reptiles. The conditions of the animals and their cages at all stores around here improved greatly and they don't keep them in the store for more than 60 days so the animals are in much better condition.

[RedSidedSPR]

Good stuff.

[snake man]

What happens after 60 days?

[Light of Dae]

I just picked up a Checkered Garter from a lady who had No clue what she was doing... She bought it for her 9 year old daughter but of course she did all the work for it....
Any one remember my little rant about a Big Al's fish store and me arguing with a employee about the care of Checkered Garters they had for sale?

Anyways This lady bought this little guy there in June(I saw them in late May) and was feeding him a pinkie mouse a week and few minnows in between. Said she was feeding crickets for awhile but stopped cause their chirping was annoying. lol She switched to small fuzzies little while ago cause he still seemed hungry after a small pinkie. She's been keeping him on shredded aspen. Made the mistake of putting a big heavy water dish on top of it... Got lucky he didn't get crushed.

Lol As she was telling me all this I kept shaking my head at each thing you guys just did by reading it over lol.
Every time I shook my head, she'd stop, I'd explain. Minnows are bad etc. Can't digest exoskeleton of any bugs etc. lol She kept telling me the pet store(Fish store now with reptiles Big Al's) told her to feed minnows or goldfish, crickets and the only correct thing was pinkie mice.

Oh well, He seems pretty healthy, he has grown since seeing him in the store. He is very calm, which was almost cause for concern but he is active n tongue flicking lots just chilled out. lol She said when she picked him from the other one at the store was because he sat there n looked at her while the other one was flipping out n jumping around trying to escape lol.

(I'll copy this and post it in my snake log later when I take pictures to add)

[guidofatherof5]

Glad to hear the Checkered (T.marcianus) will be getting some proper care now.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

What happens after 60 days?Dog food...

[snake man]

Was worried that might be the answer.

[Light of Dae]

What happens after 60 days?

Some places send them back to the breeder.

[Stefan-A]

What happens after 60 days?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_p969U0eSA

[RedSidedSPR]

Why am I not surprised.

[EasternGirl]

Well, I guess I'll call animal control then. And yeah...I'd choose the same snake as Stefan if I got to choose the snake in the snake vs. croc scenario. I'm going to take my second math exam today. I absolutely have to pass this exam or I'm out of clinicals in January. No pressure at all.

[Light of Dae]

You'll pass it just fine :)

[Chulio]

Good luck on the test

[MCwyo]

There was a black bear sighted in our city park here yesterday. Very odd. They don't usually wander all the way into town, they stay up in the mountains. We do usually get a good number of mountain lions through town every year. I wish I hadn't been working, I would have loved to go take some photos of it. Apparently game & fish were unable to capture it.

Also we have had a huge change in temp. On tuseday it was 80, yesterday it snowed :( more snow and cold temps to come this weekend, according to the news. God knows we need the moisture, but I can't stand going from 80 degrees out to snowing litteraly over night.

[RedSidedSPR]

Used to have bears all over the place in West Virginia, they'd were as commmon as squirrels lol

[EasternGirl]

When I lived in WVA, I used to have bats fly in my living room window at night. I was a poor college student and my apartment didn't have air conditioning or screens on the windows. It's kind of disturbing when you are watching t.v. and a bat starts diving at your head.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Lol Where I live the biggest animals we find in the towns are sea gulls and foxes.I can't imagine what it'd be like finding a bear going through the bins:D

[ConcinusMan]

Lol Where I live the biggest animals we find in the towns are sea gulls and foxes.I can't imagine what it'd be like finding a bear going through the bins:D

In the city of Vancouver, WA (around 200,000 people) the fourth largest city in WA, we occasionally get deer, bears, cougars, bobcats out of the blue smack dab in the middle of highly urban areas. They usually show up this time of year. If things get too dry (it's extremely dry now) they come to town looking for food. Don't ask me how they get so far into town without being seen. Last year some kids spotted a black bear sleeping in a tree at a park within walking distance of downtown! A young cougar also found sleeping in a tree near the interstate just blocks from downtown.

Racoons and coyotes actually live in the city year 'round.

[RedSidedSPR]

I have a raccoon living in my yard somewhere lol. He's cool :p

[snake man]

I do too, he's not so cool though when your picking up the track that he got into.

[RedSidedSPR]

He never bothers the trash actually. He prefers the neighbors trash. Muahaha

[ConcinusMan]

I can't stand going from 80 degrees out to snowing litteraly over night.

It did that in Reno when I lived there. In June. It was 80's for a week then snowed (just flurries) for 3 days, then back into the 80's

[EasternGirl]

Well, I took my exam yesterday and I feel like I did really well on it. Of course, the butthead teacher is taking his time grading it...so I have no idea of my score. I really can't stand the teacher in that class. He has no idea how to teach...doesn't actually teach us anything, and puts trick questions on tests. That does not help students. Teaching should be about helping students to learn...not pulling authority trips.

I am so unbelievably exhausted...it's just been non-stop for weeks now. I couldn't sleep last night...and I have class from 12-3 and then a baseball game at 5:30...will probably be there until 8. Did I tell you guys that I took my son to the doctor and he couldn't find anything wrong with his arm? He said he is probably just overusing it between playing football at school and baseball for the team. He said no more football until baseball season is over, keep an eye on the arm, limit his pitching, and pull him out of games and ice the arm if it starts hurting...then let him know if it continues to bother him.

[RedSidedSPR]

This guy is amazing.

Mommy, mommy I want new shoes!

LuDN2bCIyus

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I never understood why they put adverts on cars.The bloke is going to fast to see them 0_o

[RedSidedSPR]

They're all his sponsors. But yeah, lol. They dont do much good as advertisements. Although that does make me wanna drink some monster in a new pair of DC shoes. (not really.. Except the monster part..).

[ConcinusMan]

I never understood why they put adverts on cars.The bloke is going to fast to see them 0_o

That doesn't matter. The ad could be seen by the eye, and recorded to your subconscious, even if it was only seen for a fraction of a second. It doesn't matter if you can't consciously recall a single product in the ads either. The ads still influence your buying decisions whether you are aware of it or not.

Read these books and you will be enlightened and shocked:

Subliminal Seduction: Wilson Bryan Key: 9780451061485: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Subliminal-Seduction-Wilson-Bryan-Key/dp/0451061489/ref=pd_sim_b_1)

http://www.amazon.com/The-Age-Manipulation-Confidence-Sincere/dp/0819186538/ref=pd_sim_b_1

[ConcinusMan]

Solar power?In the UK?

If that was a rhetorical question, I do not follow

[RedSidedSPR]

That doesn't matter. The ad could be seen by the eye, and recorded to your subconscious, even if it was only seen for a fraction of a second. It doesn't matter if you can't consciously recall a single product in the ads either. The ads still influence your buying decisions whether you are aware of it or not.

Read these books and you will be enlightened and shocked:

Subliminal Seduction: Wilson Bryan Key: 9780451061485: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Subliminal-Seduction-Wilson-Bryan-Key/dp/0451061489/ref=pd_sim_b_1)

The Age of Manipulation: The Con in Confidence,The Sin in Sincere: Wilson Bryan Key,Bruce Ledford: 9780819186539: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/The-Age-Manipulation-Confidence-Sincere/dp/0819186538/ref=pd_sim_b_1)

Read some stuff on that, pretty cool.. Might just buy that.

[Invisible Snake]

Yo it is cold here in NYC, it's in the high 40's/low 50's F.

[RedSidedSPR]

Got really cold here yesterday too

[EasternGirl]

Yep...I just woke up and turned the heat on. Ordered a dome lamp for one of the tanks and now I have to get some heat mats for the tubs. Gotta figure out something for the guinea pigs and the hermit crabs too because they are in my son's room and it gets really cold in there. The night time baseball games are going to really get cold. My stupid teacher hasn't graded my math exam that I took last Thursday yet. That's nice...keep me waiting when you know that me staying in the nursing program totally depends on my grade on that exam. Butthead. In other news...the research that I am doing for my paper on snake venom in medicine is turning out to be incredibly interesting. Thanks to those of you who gave me links to articles. It turns out scientists believe they may have found a way to inhibit the growth of tumors and stop breast cancer from metastisizing with an enzyme found in the venom of the copperhead. And...they found a component of the venom of the black mamba that proves to be a better painkiller than morphine without the addictive qualities or side effects. They have even found a component in the venom of a pit viper that kills a particular leukemia cell. It's so fascinating. Who knew venomous snakes could be the answer we have been looking for in a cure for cancer? Chalk a big one up to the snakes!!

[ConcinusMan]

Got really cold here yesterday too

Been getting cold here at night, particularly in the hour or two just before and after sunrise. Still no freeze though. Theres not even any dew overnight. Its too dry. Humidity has been like a desert. 10-15 percent. Still no rain, still sunny and warm during the day. Trees aren't even turning fall colors. Instead they are all wilting and dropping dry crunchy leaves that are still green. Combine that with windy conditions, and we've had a lot of wildfires including several two-alarm brush fires in Clark County, WA

We got through Sept. without a drop of rain and almost no moisture in the air. Here it is Oct. and still no rain. Not even morning dew or any clouds or fog. This is unheard of.

[RedSidedSPR]

Jeez..

[EasternGirl]

It's 46 degrees here now.

[RedSidedSPR]

Something like 50 here

[guidofatherof5]

Glad to hear the little scrubs have found a home Richard.

[ConcinusMan]

a steady supply of tadoles is their best chance I think. and these snakes really aren't in terrible shape. Its just that they don't eat much, if anything, are thin, and falling behind growth-wise. BTW I got 3 of them to eat well this morning. So I think maybe just 4 or 5 are going to be culls (not getting culled though since they are adopted)

[RedSidedSPR]

Excellent.

[MCwyo]

We woke up to several inches of snow the other day. I had to climb in the back hatch of my car because all of the doors were frozen shut :eek: It was all melted off by the afternoon though. Today is chilly and grey skies. Staying nice & toasty indoors :)

[Invisible Snake]

Contestant dies after eating a bunch of roaches and worms in an attempt to win a python from Ben Siegel Reptile Store. Not a lot of details but here is the link to the story.

Man dies after roach eating contest - Local News - Orlando, FL | NBC News (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49335646/ns/local_news-orlando_fl/t/man-dies-after-roach-eating-contest/#.UHN8565YWuJ)

[RedSidedSPR]

Interesting...

[EasternGirl]

For the love of....anyway, I'm really glad the little scrubs found a home too! I just found out I got a 94 on my math exam!!! This brings my grade up considerably...I am now passing the class and can breathe a sigh of relief...until we get to IV infusion calculations!

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Congratulations on you'r exam results Marnie!:)

[chris-uk]

For the love of....anyway, I'm really glad the little scrubs found a home too! I just found out I got a 94 on my math exam!!! This brings my grade up considerably...I am now passing the class and can breathe a sigh of relief...until we get to IV infusion calculations!

Congratulations Marnie. And don't worry about the IV calculations, they won't be any more difficult than the maths exam you just passed - and as long as you get them right 94% of the time it's OK, isn't it? ;) :D

[guidofatherof5]

Way to go Idaho.;)

[ConcinusMan]

Nice job;)

[EasternGirl]

Well...I have heard that the IV infusion rate calculations are the most difficult...but I think I have a basic understanding of the formulas for calculating dosages now...so hopefully, I will be okay. The 94 raised my grade up from a 62 (ugh!) to a 78...thank goodness. Normally, I have to get A's in all of my classes or I freak out...but I just want to pass this one! Speaking of grades...I got an invitation to join Phi Theta Kappa...the National Honor Society. I need to join quickly before my final grade in this class....lol. :D

And just to mention...the support I get from you guys on this forum, in everything, means a lot. It makes a difference. When I was taking the exam I kept thinking of all the posts telling me that I could do it...that I could pass the exam...and it gave me extra confidence. So, thanks everyone for your support! :)

[Invisible Snake]

Hey Americans, I know the candidates don't really seem appealing but please remember to register to vote :)

[EasternGirl]

I always vote. I think I have a cold...everytime school starts, stuff starts going around school and I end up sick all the time.

[Chulio]

Great Job Marnie! I think you will find the Infusion conversion rates not as bad as you think. You get to actually use real numbers instead of letters. All that math is not to bad when you get to apply it. Liters to Milliliters is the key. I am pulling for you.

Ten days ago it was hot hot hot and today is the coldest so far this fall 40.

I have never missed a vote since my first on in 76. Lots of people say it does not make a difference but it is sad that we elect our politicians with a fraction of the population even though everybody complains. I don't care who you vote for just make sure you do. My state capital just passed a ban on exotics. There is reason enough.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

A few month s ago it was to hot in America and now it's to cold.Can't your weather make it's mind up!?:p

[ProXimuS]

Recently we had our coldest days since summer. I think it was down to the low 60's:eek::p It's funny because us Texans were actually runnin around in jackets in that weather. We don't know how to handle cool temps...:o

[RedSidedSPR]

Apparently not... lol. I'd be swimmin in the ocean at 60 degrees

[EasternGirl]

Thanks Jimi. Well, I have the liters to ml down...I definitely have the whole ratio proportion calculations down. Of course, I was all proud of myself for doing so well on that second exam...and then last night in class, my teacher said "Everyone did really well on the second exam. All the grades were above 90...but if you did well, don't think that you are in the clear...because the exam was too easy and the next two exams...especially the last one...will be really tough. If you got a grade in the high 90's on exam two, that is fine...but if you got a 90...that is not acceptable". What a complete jerk. In the beginning of the course he said that his purpose was not to fail us but to see us pass the class so that we could move on to the second semester of clinicals. But he is acting like he is trying to fail us. I hate teachers like that. I did meet a girl in my class that said that she absolutely has to do well on the last two tests as well and that she would study with me. So that is a plus.

[katach]

Sorry to change the subject from the weather, but......


I GOT ANOTHER PROMOTION!! Starting the 28th of Oct I will be a full manager! I get a raise, and more hours! So freaking excited!

[ProXimuS]

WOOT WOOT! Good job Kat!

[guidofatherof5]

Congrats Kat.

[RedSidedSPR]

I'd say that's better then weather

[EasternGirl]

Awesome news Kat! Congrats and well done!

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Congratulations on the new job:D

[chris-uk]

I'd say that's better then weather

Don't be daft. What conversation could possibly be better than discussing the weather?




(well done Kat!)

[katach]

Thanks everybody!

[EasternGirl]

I'm sitting here in my research class...and I need to find someone to interview for my research project on snake venom in medicine. Does anyone know of anyone who would be considered an expert on this topic? A herpetologist that specializes in venomous snakes, a doctor who is open to the idea of the use of venom as medicine, a vet who has knowledge of venom and it's medical properties? My mind first went to O'Shea...but he is not easy to contact. Anyone...anything?

[Chulio]

Not sure if the number is current but I wrote him once and he replied. He
is one of the best in the USA

Dr. Sean Bush (http://www.ucomparehealthcare.com/drs/sean_bush/)
Emergency Medicine
(909) 558-4344

Loma Linda University Medical Center
11234 Anderson St
Loma Linda, CA 92354

[ConcinusMan]

Finally got some rain today. Started about 10am and didn't stop at all for about 10 hours. Got over an inch.

[EasternGirl]

Thanks Jimi! I will try to contact him.

[RedSidedSPR]

Finally got some rain today. Started about 10am and didn't stop at all for about 10 hours. Got over an inch.

Nice. About time.

[guidofatherof5]

The Walking Dead marathon just started. Every episode leaning up to the new season. I know what I'll be doing for the next couple of days.
Glad the snakes are all go-to-go.

[RedSidedSPR]

YEAH!! Me too, cant wait for season 3.

[ConcinusMan]

Apparently not... lol. I'd be swimmin in the ocean at 60 degrees

Hmmm... you mean the air or the water temp? I have actually been in 60 degree water on the beach in San Diego. It's darn cold. You go numb and cramp up in less than a minute. Didn't matter that the weather was 98 degrees.

This year is one for the record books for an extremly dry period (July - Oct) but now that its raining, it's pouring, and theres rain every day in the extended forecast.

..HEAVY RAIN AND STRONG WINDS EXPECTED SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY MORNING...

1.5 - 2 inches expected Sun and Mon. Translation: pouring, soaking unrelenting rain all day, both days.

No breaksssss

http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/bd/c3/bdc3ba_2711159.jpg

[jitami]

Too funny! Thanks for posting that!


I was on youtube and somehow came across this though i would post it.

Hitler Reacts To Reptile Expo News - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fz81KJOiw8&feature=g-vrec)

[RedSidedSPR]

Hmmm... you mean the air or the water temp? I have actually been in 60 degree water on the beach in San Diego. It's darn cold. You go numb and cramp up in less than a minute. Didn't matter that the weather was 98 degrees.

This year is one for the record books for an extremly dry period (July - Oct) but now that its raining, it's pouring, and theres rain every day in the extended forecast.

..HEAVY RAIN AND STRONG WINDS EXPECTED SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY MORNING...

1.5 - 2 inches expected Sun and Mon. Translation: pouring, soaking unrelenting rain all day, both days.

No breaksssss

http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/bd/c3/bdc3ba_2711159.jpg

I was exaggerating. Poorly.

Man your weather is messed up..

[ConcinusMan]

Yup, and it will stay crappy, soaking wet, if not wet AND cold, until July :cool:

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I bet the scrubs that survived won't be complaining about the rain:D.Plus it'll flush out the worms for them.

[EasternGirl]

Sorry I haven't been replying to many threads...my son has been really sick since Saturday. Got to have the wonderful experience of sitting in the ER waiting room for hours Saturday night. This is the hospital where I am supposed to do my clinicals and I was so angry with the care that my son received...or didn't receive that I had to literally bite my lip to keep from screaming at everyone. They had us sitting in the waiting room for two hours with my son's fever getting higher and higher and him starting to shake and twitch. Finally, after me asking several times for him to please be seen...they found a room for him, where we sat for another half an hour waiting for the nurse to look at him. When the doctor finally got around to looking at him an hour or so later...they barely ran any tests and just said.."It must be a virus". I am getting ready to take him to the doctor now. I will not work at that hospital once I am an RN. I will work at the children's hospital...where I should have taken my son...or at some other hospital.

[ConcinusMan]

I was on youtube and somehow came across this though i would post it.

Hitler Reacts To Reptile Expo News - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fz81KJOiw8&feature=g-vrec)

You can make your own! I did, but I need to re-do it. I screwed up in a few places. Go here to do it: Make your own Hitler video (not available in all countries) (http://downfall.jfedor.org/)

[Kantar]

I have actually been in 60 degree water on the beach in San Diego. It's darn cold.

you need some canadian prairie winter training

we only get -80F windchills.. its not too bad.. really.. believe me... please?

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Hope your son gets better soon:).And I hope the muppets at the Hospital get their act together:p

[snake man]

I heard you can make your own and am looking forward to seeing yours.

[EasternGirl]

What have I been missing? Make-your-own Hitler videos?? My son seems to be doing a bit better. I think his fever broke during the night. I think he has willed himself better because he has a baseball game tomorrow night...lol.

[Chulio]

I am glad your son is better. I volunteer at out Children's hospital and seeing kids sick is always tough.

Am I the only one who thinks Hitler videos are just not funny. I guess I am just getting old and am that guy that complains. That scene is from the movie Downfall and he is realizing that he will not be able to keep killing Jewish people and take over the world. Don't stop because of me just because I don't find it funny. Comedy is totally subjective and I do get that.

Jimi

[Stefan-A]

That scene is from the movie Downfall and he is realizing that he will not be able to keep killing Jewish people and take over the world.
Nope, just that he's lost the war.

Killing the Jews was a minor episode considering everything else he did (after all, he did cause the deaths of 20-25 million Russians) and he wasn't trying to take over the world. A large part of western Eurasia, yes. The world, no.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I think it's safe to say that Hitler was a wanker.

[Stefan-A]

I think it's safe to say that Hitler was a wanker.
Safe, in that it's fairly easy to agree with. Unsafe, in that there are certain nitpickers who think it's an oversimplification and that dismissing him as a "wanker" makes it more difficult to discuss the state of mind and motives of people like him and is therefore counterproductive, considering that we need to be able to understand his kind in order to prevent or stop similar tragedies from happening again. ;)

[-MARWOLAETH-]

It would be very hard to understand him and what was really going through his mind when he did what he did.There have been plenty worse than him but for some reason he kept outdated and grossly wrong views that hadn't been practiced for centuries.Do we know why he did these things?

[Stefan-A]

It would be very hard to understand him and what was really going through his mind when he did what he did.There have been plenty worse than him but for some reason he kept outdated and grossly wrong views that hadn't been practiced for centuries.Do we know why he did these things?
Everybody has a pet theory about why he did what he did.

Personally, I think he was pretty open and honest about his motives, but was severely misguided (he believed in BS). I don't think he was mentally ill, I'm convinced he was just very devout as far as his ideals were concerned. Most of his views reflect the prevailing views of his era. Nationalism, imperialism, eugenics, racism, antisemitism were all alive and well all across the western world, from the Soviet Union to the US (also Finland), and in that regard it's not difficult to see why he got so much support in the early days and met so little resistance.

Nobody really cared about what happened in Germany until he invaded Poland in 1939 and even then people only cared because both France and Britain had signed defence treaties with Poland and were forced to react. It was more about prestige than anything else at that point. Nobody cared about the Jewish people being disenfranchised in the preceding decade and the war was in full swing when the existence of the concentration-, work- and death camps became known.

I hope nobody interprets anything I write here as a defence of him or his actions.

[Chulio]

"I hope nobody interprets anything I write here as a defense of him or his actions."

I think you state your point well without anybody thinking that.

[EasternGirl]

Well...yes, Hitler was a wanker. And my son is still sick...everytime the medicine wears off, his fever shoots back up. I'm waiting for a call from the doctor. He is going to miss his baseball game tonight and he is not happy. He's been out of school all week. Thank God for my mother because I have to go to school...I can't miss my classes. I hate leaving when Julian is sick.

[Stefan-A]

"I hope nobody interprets anything I write here as a defense of him or his actions."

I think you state your point well without anybody thinking that.
It's a sensitive issue and I have been in situations, where the person I've been talking to has thought that the things I've just said qualify as a defence of Hitler and Nazi Germany.

[chris-uk]

It's a sensitive issue and I have been in situations, where the person I've been talking to has thought that the things I've just said qualify as a defence of Hitler and Nazi Germany.

If we don't study the past and try to understand what happened, we risk repeating the same mistakes again. You don't have to agree with actions to understand them.
There are people in the world who are not mentally ill, but who actions are assumed by others to be the result of mental illness because they are so far outside societal norms - these people aren't ill, they know what they are doing, they just don't believe it's wrong. There are many sociopaths out there, most of them don't find themselves in a position where they can inflict themselves on a global scale. It's disturbing that there seems to be a generation who don't really know who Hitler was and why he is worth studying.

[EasternGirl]

Yep...I agree. And I was just about to say...sociopath...but you nailed it, Chris. A sociopath can understand the difference between right and wrong as we see it...he or she just doesn't care or doesn't agree with our view of things, or like Chris said, they don't have the morality to determine that something is wrong. Sociopaths don't have a conscience...they have no sense of remorse. Where as someone who is mentally ill...well, psychotic that is, wouldn't understand that what he/she is doing is wrong...he/she also wouldn't be able to plan an execute something like Hitler did.

I talked to the doctor. Now they are thinking that my son has something bacterial going on in his stomach. They are putting him on antibiotics. If he doesn't respond to them...they will have to do bacterial studies. I mentioned the snakes and salmonella...although my son does not handle the snakes, and I am very careful to sanitize any area where I have been working with the snakes. But the doctor said he will consider that when doing bacterial studies...just in case.

[ProXimuS]

Sorry to hear about all this Marnie. I hope he gets better soon!

[EasternGirl]

Thanks :).

[ConcinusMan]

Hopped up to 78 degrees today... Yesterday it was 50

Sunny and 70 today. Yesterday was nice too but much cooler. Back to the rain tomorrow.

[EasternGirl]

Ugh...my son is so sick. Now it has moved into his lungs and he woke up this morning and couldn't breathe. He has a history of respiratory problems...he had to be rushed to the ER so many times when he was a baby and a toddler, because he couldn't breathe. They did surgery when he was three and he has been much better...but if he gets a cold or respiratory infection, he has to do nebulizer treatments. I have class in a few hours and I can't miss it. I'm going to have to call the doctor and have my mother take him...I hate this. If the doc can't see him, I guess I'll have to take him to the hospital and miss class again...my teacher, CC (lol) is pretty cool, I think she will understand...hopefully.

[guidofatherof5]

I hope you get better soon Julian.

[EasternGirl]

Thanks, Steve...I will tell him that you said that. :)

[ConcinusMan]

Awesome! Who needs TV with that much action in the living room:p

Who watches T.V. anyway? There's only a few shows I care enough to watch and those are watched online. (netflix, Hulu, NBC, etc.) Not nearly as many ads and shows get queued up if I miss them. Plus you can pause, rewind, resume, etc. without the need for a DVR. Heck, even when I do watch in on the main TV, I stream it from the web rather than watching live TV.

Blame it on the fiasco that happened some years back with the writers strike. Things are just now starting to improve.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I just put the few programs that don't make me want to punch a hole in the wall on record and watch them when I've got free lessons:D It frees up a lot of time in the evening for important things like video games and homework:rolleyes:

[ConcinusMan]

Haven't played video games since Sony Playstation. The first one.:rolleyes: I was 25 then. Gotta grow up sometime.:cool:

[Invisible Snake]

Hey just stumbled across this website, it features natures oddest looking animals. Enjoy.

Nature's Weirdest Creatures - SgForums.com (http://sgforums.com/forums/1769/topics/367538)

[guidofatherof5]

Very cool.

[ConcinusMan]

Neeto. What, no naked mole rat?

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/21301000/ngbbs4c1503edd9bdd.jpg

I've actually found a Ajolote before near the mexican border in California. I didn't know what to make of it but I eventually concluded on my own that it was some kind of reptile. It wasn't until years later that I got any info about them or pics. I was actually looking for another type of reptile. A subterranian, blind legless lizard. I forget what they're called but they look like a worm. People often mistake them for worms.

[Stefan-A]

features natures oddest looking animals.
Humans.

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, I guess when you really think about it, for an ape we are pretty strange looking.

[mikem]

We need more hair. :D

[ConcinusMan]

But that would put clothing designers out of work.:p

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Lack of hair was and advantage to our ancestors in the Savanna because it allowed us to loose heat through sweat. We could gather food in the heat of the day when the predators where sleeping in the shade.As a result it makes us look rather odd compared to other animals:D

[Stefan-A]

Lack of hair was and advantage to our ancestors in the Savanna because it allowed us to loose heat through sweat. We could gather food in the heat of the day when the predators where sleeping in the shade.As a result it makes us look rather odd compared to other animals:D
Baboons live on the savannah and still have fur. So do all other mammals there. Also, losing heat through sweating is incredibly wasteful of water. Also, our ancestors weren't hairless despite living in the same region.
Another hypothesis is that being hairless makes it easier to spot external parasites.
The aquatic ape hypothesis is just dumb, let's not get into that one at all.

[ConcinusMan]

I was going to say earlier, it helps with swimming, the way we are. But yeah, the aquatic ape thing is just dumb.

[MCwyo]

Had great news today!!! We got our official home loan pre approval :) :) Going down tomorrow to put an offer in on a house. Not sure if we'll get it because it already has several offers, but it's a great house and worth a shot! Wish us luck :)

[guidofatherof5]

Luck headed your way.

[Invisible Snake]

Good Luck!!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Well, here's one clue... If your entire collection's survival depends on a single thermostat, you might want to re-evaluate the risk.

This might be a good question to ask BHB reptiles. You know the guys who do that youtube show called "Snake Bytes TV". I'm thinking with the collection they have, and the high value, they might know a thing or two about this. Maybe they'll do a show about it if they haven't already

Except that isn't the case.... this was simply the thermostat running the heater than kept the room's ambient temperature in check. I have other equipment running my individual heating elements and such.

[ConcinusMan]

Well, here's one clue... If your entire collection's survival depends on a single thermostat, you might want to re-evaluate the risk.


Except that isn't the case.

I didn't mean to imply that it was, Shannon. Just giving an extreme example.;)

I'm pretty sure that just about any room thermostat you would buy these days would fail in the OFF position rather than turn the room into an oven. That's what blows me away about what happened to you. I've never heard of a thermostat failing with the result you got. I've had even ancient mercury thermostats fail and the result was, you couldn't turn the heat on. Those work by turning the switch ON when it gets cold. Room warms up, warming the mercury which then moves the switch to OFF. When they fail, they just don't turn on.

[Chulio]

Newer style thermostats have very cheap contacts. Any voltage surge, brownout or lightning can cause the contacts to stick together. It happens more than you might think.

[ConcinusMan]

I'm pretty sure that the thermostat in question would have been decades old.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

I didn't mean to imply that it was, Shannon. Just giving an extreme example.;)

I'm pretty sure that just about any room thermostat you would buy these days would fail in the OFF position rather than turn the room into an oven. That's what blows me away about what happened to you. I've never heard of a thermostat failing with the result you got. I've had even ancient mercury thermostats fail and the result was, you couldn't turn the heat on. Those work by turning the switch ON when it gets cold. Room warms up, warming the mercury which then moves the switch to OFF. When they fail, they just don't turn on.

I had some other people contact me that have had it happen. Unfortunately, it happens more than we know.... some people just don't talk much online or would rather hide it altogether. Trust me, I didn't think that a thermostat would have done that either. I have all kinds of equipment, including one shelf that is hooked up to a light timer for my bearded dragon so that I don't have to come down and turn his lights on and off. All of it has worked really well up until now. I have since gone back to using a bit more basking areas, for my animals that like to have them, and that keeps the ambient temperature in the room nice and warm, so my garters and other temperate critters can enjoy a decent ambient temp without me needing to stress constantly. Since the lamps are already running full blast, there is no danger of them getting even hotter and cooking the room. Even now, I still check the room all of the time. It's obsessive and stressful.

[EasternGirl]

I definitely check my temps all the time even with thermostats hooked up...for one thing, the thermostats never give you exactly the right temp...not the ones I have anyway.

MCwyo...good luck! That is very exciting!!

Speaking of power surges and since we like to talk about the weather...we have a hurricane headed our way, it's supposed to hit around Tuesday and it is supposed to be a bad one. I suspect the worst of it will hit the beaches, which are about an hour and a half from here. Hopefully my beach place will survive it because the last one caused a tree to fall on it and put a big hole in the roof that we are still trying to fix. I need to get my beach place fixed up so I can rent it out and get some income. But either way, the storm is concerning me. I think of emergency situations...like fires and storms and such...and wonder how the heck I would get my son, all my animals, and my snakes out of the house and make it out myself. I could never leave my animals. I would be one of those crazy people sitting on the roof of my house surrounded by a flood, refusing to leave with a dog, three cats, 2 guinea pigs and a bag of snakes! On top of the worry about my house and my family and pets, they say that Halloween could be ruined for the kids. My son's birthday was ruined two years ago because of the last hurricane that hit. This just sucks. Please send positive thoughts and prayers our way.

The positive in all of this is that maybe my math exam will have to be rescheduled next week...

[ConcinusMan]

I just read up on Hurricane Sandy. It's a bit too early to tell if it's going to be all that bad but it does have the potential. Too many "ifs" between now and the time it's expected to hit the NE. "If's" that could mean the difference between 5 inches of rain with 65mph winds, or just some moderate rain/winds. In any case, it's supposed be over before halloween night.

[ConcinusMan]

This is a bit disturbing. How do you get a diagnosis of subcutaneous worms if you don't take your snake to a vet? How does one even know if deworming meds worked if you don't take your snake to a vet? How does one even know what is causing lumps on a snake, again, if you haven't seen a vet?

I know, why don't we just feed the snake a bunch of medications which are toxic, without the supervision of a vet? That'll take care of it.

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/wanted/11640-need-help-my-garter-has-worms-paradites-need-meds-will-pay-them.html

[Stefan-A]

This is a bit disturbing. How do you get a diagnosis of subcutaneous worms if you don't take your snake to a vet? How does one even know if deworming meds worked if you don't take your snake to a vet? How does one even know what is causing lumps on a snake, again, if you haven't seen a vet?

I know, why don't we just feed the snake a bunch of medications which are toxic, without the supervision of a vet? That'll take care of it.

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/wanted/11640-need-help-my-garter-has-worms-paradites-need-meds-will-pay-them.html
When I approved that post, the only thing that went through my mind was, "I just don't care anymore."

I just don't care anymore.

[ConcinusMan]

I can see how that would happen. I don't know how many times I've told people posting videos to youtube, why they shouldn't feed their snakes live feeder goldfish, only to have them argue about it, and on numerous occasions, tell me that "petco does it" or "petco said to", or "I've had him for 2 years and he's fine". After a while, I just don't care anymore. Maybe they'll understand when their snake gets sick and dies prematurely, but I doubt it.

[EasternGirl]

They are already closing schools around here for Monday...and calling off Halloween things for the weekend. The governor is preparing for evacuation plans if necessary. And I just found out that my irresponsible parents have no insurance on our house or beach house. So I guess I will go live in a box if my house gets swept away. I will live in a box with my son and all of my animals and snakes and I will put wheels on the box to get to school.

[Invisible Snake]

This is a bit disturbing. How do you get a diagnosis of subcutaneous worms if you don't take your snake to a vet? How does one even know if deworming meds worked if you don't take your snake to a vet? How does one even know what is causing lumps on a snake, again, if you haven't seen a vet?

I know, why don't we just feed the snake a bunch of medications which are toxic, without the supervision of a vet? That'll take care of it.

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/wanted/11640-need-help-my-garter-has-worms-paradites-need-meds-will-pay-them.html


When I approved that post, the only thing that went through my mind was, "I just don't care anymore."

I just don't care anymore.

I saw this person posting about his garter snake in another forum and I PMed him and told him about this forum. I told him this forum is dedicated to garter snakes and they're are knowledgeable ppl on here that may be able to help him.

I had no idea he was just going to post a WANT ad in the classifieds asking for reptile meds =/

[EasternGirl]

Invisible Snake...not your fault...you were just trying to recommend someone to the forum. Did anyone tell the guy that it's a bad idea to medicate an animal without knowing what is wrong with it? I know that sometimes people come of as morons and it gets irritating...but isn't it our wish to educate these people so that they don't hurt their snakes?

[ConcinusMan]

Also, as usual, I don't think he's aware that we cannot reply to the ad, and he probably didn't know his first post doesn't show up right away.

[ConcinusMan]

Want to see something really messed up? Search google for "scaleless garter snake" and click the second result. C'mon!

[Light of Dae]

Can't see the picture without being a member. :(

[ConcinusMan]

Can't see the picture without being a member. :(

No, that's not it. It completely redirected me to some page with info about wireless routers. But nevermind. I just tried it again and it went to the forum. Weird.

[Stefan-A]

Want to see something really messed up? Search google for "scaleless garter snake" and click the second result. C'mon!
The second result is a USGS page, linking to a JSTOR article* which costs $12 to download.

*)A Partially Scaleless Garter-Snake
William H. Stickel
Copeia
Vol. 1942, No. 3 (Oct. 8, 1942), p. 181

[ConcinusMan]

Not the result I got. The one you mentioned is my 3rd result. But nevermind. It was just weird. The first time I clicked on the redtailboa.net result, that's not where it took me.

[Stefan-A]

Not the result I got. The one you mentioned is my 3rd result. But nevermind. It was just weird. The first time I clicked on the redtailboa.net result, that's not where it took me.
Google doesn't have standard search results.

[ConcinusMan]

You didn't get "scaleless texas rat snakes" as the first result? red tail boa.net 2nd, partially scaleless garter 3rd. That's what I got.

[Stefan-A]

You didn't get "scaleless texas rat snakes" as the first result? red tail boa.net 2nd, partially scaleless garter 3rd. That's what I got.
Ratsnakezone first, USGS second, Thamnophis.com third.

Google does not have standard search results.

[ConcinusMan]

OK so yours skipped the red tail boa forum. That's the one that gave me the redirect issue when I clicked on it the first time.

You missed out on this at red tail boa forum. Scaleless death adder. Freaky:

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn125/jere9000/Scale-less800.jpg

[ProXimuS]

Woa....:eek:

[-MARWOLAETH-]

It looks like a draft excluder:D

[ConcinusMan]

Check out this corn snake. I'm not much of a corn snake fan but wow! On sale at BHB reptiles. Was $500 (ridiculous as their $150 snow plains garters) now it's only grossly overpriced, at $250. Morph is called "Tesserra"

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0109/0052/products/tesserra_corn_female_10024_large.jpg?39

[Stefan-A]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZiWx8dnIfY

If any of you have an extra half hour to waste.

[mikem]

Check out this corn snake. I'm not much of a corn snake fan but wow! On sale at BHB reptiles. Was $500 (ridiculous as their $150 snow plains garters) now it's only grossly overpriced, at $250. Morph is called "Tesserra"


I saw a few adult tesserra corns in a friend of a friend's collection earlier this week. They're awesome looking. I'd like to have a couple anery tesserra corns, but I think I'll wait for the price to come down :D It is codom, which is neat because most corn morphs are recessive.

[MCwyo]

Google "pseudopus apodus" ......... So odd!! I want one.

[RedSidedSPR]

Glass lizards? Yeah I've found a few of those. You think it's a snake until you see the lizard head.

[ConcinusMan]

Google "pseudopus apodus" ......... So odd!! I want one.

Why that one? There are lots of legless lizard species right here in America. From my experience, they don't make good captives. At least not any I've ever found, such as Anniella pulchra. Diet of larval insects, termites, ants, and spiders is just too difficult to provide year 'round and they have very specific microclimate needs. Even if you do manage to keep them alive, you'll rarely see them.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

When I was wee I found a small Anguis fragilis (I was too young to know they where illegal) I fed it on small earth worms and ant eggs I released him by my compost heap after a couple of weeks

[Invisible Snake]

What's Sandy and Snooki have in common? They're both heading to the Jersey Shore to blow everyone in a 50 mile radius.

[guidofatherof5]

Wow.

[Invisible Snake]

Wow.

Too much? :o

[guidofatherof5]

Yeah, but I'm a old prude.:D

[Stefan-A]

I heard that I have a cousin stranded over in NY because of Sandy.

[Invisible Snake]

Yeah, but I'm a old prude.:D


I heard that I have a cousin stranded over in NY because of Sandy.

Sorry I didn't post it to offend anyone, I myself live in NYC and saw that post being shared on FB, so I thought I'd share it here.

[Stefan-A]

Sorry I didn't post it to offend anyone, I myself live in NYC and saw that post being shared on FB, so I thought I'd share it here.
You didn't offend. It takes a hell of a lot more than that to offend me.

[guidofatherof5]

Sorry I didn't post it to offend anyone, I myself live in NYC and saw that post being shared on FB, so I thought I'd share it here.

No offense taken. It was funny.:D

[ConcinusMan]

Here's the latest on the storm situation:

http://oi45.tinypic.com/2dtt2fk.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

I should totally buy a boat..

[ConcinusMan]

I should totally hit the liquor stores. You know, just in case it rains in Washington State.

[ConcinusMan]

Holy ****. This can't be good. Eye is dang near on top of Philadelphia and still a catagory 1 hurricane. Sustained winds 80+ mph. Shannon isn't far from there and they lost power 14 hours ago.

http://oi50.tinypic.com/3496tz8.jpg
Here you can check the "webcams and youtube videos" box and view live webcams. There are other overlay options as well, like wind speed and such:

Google Crisis Map

(http://google.org/crisismap/2012-sandy)http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-29/postcards-underwater-new-york

[EasternGirl]

Well, so far...we have survived the storm. I have no idea if my beach place is still there...the beaches got hit the worst. Up here, in northern DE, it wasn't as bad as we thought. NJ and NY got hit pretty bad though. I hope everyone is okay. They actually closed every interstate and major road around here last night...so you couldn't evacuate even if you wanted to. Schools have been closed since yesterday. Even my doc's office is closed. The most important thing though...my son's trampoline survived...lol. He was really worried about that. Yeah...I'm 40 minutes south of Philly...about 1 hour from the Jersey shore...about 2 hours from NYC...don't ask me miles. We didn't lose power at my house but I don't know how many people around here did. There is a lot of flood damage around here too.

[RedSidedSPR]

glad it wasn't worse.

[EasternGirl]

Thanks Jesse :)

[RedSidedSPR]

Major winds here, but that's it.

[EasternGirl]

Yeah, Mike said it was pretty windy where he is in NC. I just messaged with Greg (Greg'sGarters)...he is in NJ...and he is okay. And I take it Invisible Snake is okay..he's in NYC right?

[RedSidedSPR]

Been posting, so I think so

[mikem]

Glad all is well for you, Marnie! Hope the rest of the forum members are doing okay.

[EasternGirl]

Thanks! Like the new avatar!

[ConcinusMan]

I was watching "Terra Nova" Season 1, episode 3 and was reminded that 85 million years ago, the moon was much closer to the earth. It moves away at about 3.8 meters per century. So, eventually, it will leave earth's orbit and that would be disasterous. So I did a google search and found this: Cerebral Friday Fun – When will the Moon Leave Our Orbit? (http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2008/04/18/cerebral-friday-fun-when-will-the-moon-leave-our-orbit/)

[Stefan-A]

It moves away at about 3.8 meters per century.
The rate is not constant, it's accelerating.

[ConcinusMan]

Not what I read. I do realize it's not constant but I read it fluctuates. Even if you say it's accelerating, is it accelerating at a constant predictable rate, or does the rate of acceleration fluctuate? Hmm... at any rate it still sounds to me like by the time it does leave orbit, the sun will probably no longer support life on earth anyway.

[Chulio]

I hope things are ok Marnie or anybody else in harms way. I am over 1000 miles away but our weather is being affected. We rarely get winds from the east at this rate.7352

[EasternGirl]

We are okay here...thanks. But New Jersey and New York got hit really badly. 2.8 million people are without power. I hope that all of our friends from those areas are okay...and that everyone who was hit by the storm is okay. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone.

[ConcinusMan]

Check this out. A few months ago I replaced the motherboard and processor in my mothers desktop PC and installed Windows 7 Pro. Well, in the post messages of this new board, it's looking for some kind of drive (haven't really dug into what it's looking for) and it says "No any drive found"

What the heck is an "any" drive? :p Cracks me up.

[Stefan-A]

Check this out. A few months ago I replaced the motherboard and processor in my mothers desktop PC and installed Windows 7 Pro. Well, in the post messages of this new board, it's looking for some kind of drive (haven't really dug into what it's looking for) and it says "No any drive found"

What the heck is an "any" drive? :p Cracks me up.
The any drive is right next to the any key.

[ConcinusMan]

Nice. Thanks for the tip.

[EasternGirl]

Going out with the neighbors trick-or-treating tonight. Every year we all get together and take our kids out. It's fun. It is wet and crappy outside, but the kids don't care. I am dressing up as a zombie nurse. I figured it's easy and appropriate since I am a student nurse...I have the scrubs and stethoscope...just need to make my face up like a zombie and eat all of the kids tonight. :D

[RedSidedSPR]

Time to booby trap my house entrances.

[ConcinusMan]

I'll be doing my usual ritualistic annual consumption of local fungi. Tons of fun.:D

http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachments/wild-mushrooming-field-forest/87386d1211072141-help-identification-liberty-caps-libertycap.jpg

[Stefan-A]

I'll be doing my usual ritualistic annual consumption of local fungi. Tons of fun.:D

http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachments/wild-mushrooming-field-forest/87386d1211072141-help-identification-liberty-caps-libertycap.jpg
Enjoy your psilocybin.

[ConcinusMan]

I can't think of a better day for it. The leaves are all bright colors, the costumes, the chem lights...

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome.




Wtf.

[ConcinusMan]

A lot of buzz going around about the crop this year. It's a bumper one. Been mild and constantly wet for several weeks now. People are going out for an hour or two, and coming back with garbage bags full. That includes a lot of very desireable edible species such as chantrels and morels. But my favorite local wild mushroom is only good for consumption, one day of it's lifespan and those are shaggy manes. They taste like medium rare fillet mignon, I'm not kidding. The species pictured above tastes like moldy dirt. LoL. But nobody eats them for their flavor.;)

[RedSidedSPR]

Interesting. I shall look into this.

[ConcinusMan]

The thing is, you never know where they're going to pop up. Sometimes in the spring, but usually in the fall. Sometimes on lawns, sometimes on rotting leaf litter. They usually don't grow in the same location more than a few years in a row, then they're gone. But they're common enough that I find them often. The key is to find them at the right time. They only last perhaps 30 hours. Once they drop their spores, they begin to dissolve. They will not keep in a fridge either. They can grow singly, but usually in large scattered clumps. You must eat them right after picking. Just a few hours later, they will be unfit for consumption. They're a very large species of inky cap. DO NOT consume alcohol 12 hours prior to, or 24 hours after eating them or you'll wish you were dead.

Photo of one in prime condition for eating. I prefer them raw. Part of the reason they taste like steak is that they are high in iron.

http://www.naturephoto-cz.com/photos/others/shaggy-mane-35171.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Interesting indeed. I actually think I've seen those, quite a few of them down near a creek nearby. Whether I attempt consuming them or not, I'm intrigued. By a mushroom. That's a first.

[ConcinusMan]

If it looks fresh like this one, and isn't full of little holes or dissolving, give it a try. There are no poisonous look-alikes. The entire genus is safe to eat. Ignore the springtails and other assorted tiny bugs. They won't kill you.

[RedSidedSPR]

I'll go out lookin for some later. I know I've seen them

[ConcinusMan]

Don't eat them if you're allergic to diethylthiocarbamoy (otherwise known by the pharmaceutical names Antibuse or Disulfiram) and don't drink alcohol before or 24 hours after eating them. These have a high potential for containing this chemical in small, but varying amounts although some people report no reaction even if they eat them with alcohol. A few bites won't contain enough to do anything. The molecule inhibits your ability to metabolize ethyl alcohol. That would cause flushing and nausea if taken with alcohol. Very uncomfortable. It's othewise harmless.

You're not going to die if you do. Just a precaution to avoid a very miserable potential outcome.;)

[RedSidedSPR]

Gotcha. Thanks. Probably won't even find any

[ConcinusMan]

I only seem to find them by accident myself. Usually when I've been drinking. D'OH!

[RedSidedSPR]

Hmm Thanks for the tip :p

Nah but I have a looot of different mushrooms around, I'll stumble across those sooner or later. Gives me something to do now that the reptiles are gone. Not that there are any around here anyway.

[Invisible Snake]

Yeah, Mike said it was pretty windy where he is in NC. I just messaged with Greg (Greg'sGarters)...he is in NJ...and he is okay. And I take it Invisible Snake is okay..he's in NYC right?

Hey Marnie thank you for the concern, I'm alright. Members of my family work in NJ and they have been told not to come in for the remainder of the week because the businesses there have lost power and/or have been flooded, luckily they are still getting paid for those days. Halloween this year was a total bust because of hurricane Sandy, parties I had RSVP were canceled and from what my little cousins tell me not a lot of ppl were giving out candy.

[Chulio]

Trick or Treat, about 15 of my friends at the party are Doctors so I went as the mad surgeon


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[RedSidedSPR]

Ha, awesome.

[ProXimuS]

Nic costume Chulio:p


Glad every one seems to be doing ok.

[EasternGirl]

I GOT 100 ON MY 3RD MATH EXAM!!! Sorry, but I had to yell. I'm so excited! I'm a rock star, that's right...:D.

[guidofatherof5]

Way to go Idaho.;)

[mikem]

Congo rats! :cool:

[MCwyo]

Ack what a week, been kinda busy. Glad to hear that our east coast members have weathered the storm. My thoughts go out to that part of our country :( It looks like a lot of areas have sustained heavy damage.

Hope everyone had a good Halloween. My daughter and I painted pumpkins this year because we did not have time to carve. Guess what she decided to paint on her pumpkin of all things? T. s. concinnus. She loves our little Oregon snakes :D I will post a photo once I get it uploaded.

Already pulling our hair out as far as homebuying goes, lol. We made a backup offer on the house we wanted (it already had a contract in place), gave the sellers 7 days to reply, never herd back from them & thought it was a dead deal. Day 8, which happened to be Halloween, they counter offered and gave us 24 hours to reply :rolleyes: Our wonderful realator met us at 7 o'clock at night, Haloween, to sign the papers. However, we found a different house today and decided to go all in... it has no other offers on it and it is just fantastic.... better than our "dream home" that we put the back-up offer on. Fingers crossed & double crossed that our offer will be accepted... this could be the one :cool:

[MCwyo]

Here is Z's T. concinnus punkin :p

http://imageshack.us/a/img19/9808/punkinp.jpg

Also, Z's school dose a read-a-thon fundraiser every year. The theme is BEAR- "Be Excited About Reading". The kids keep track of the minutes they read over 15 days, and they get put into BEAR groups based on how many minutes they read: Teddy, Panda, Black Bear, Polar and the highest group is Grizzly..... Zoe read 3,153 minutes over 15 days!!! She was one of the few students that made it to the Grizz group, she was the top reader in 2nd grade, and she was the second highest reader in the entire school!!! She has a great love for books... she is reading at about a 5th grade level. I am so proud of my little Z, and so glad she enjoys reading so much :)


Here she is giving a high five to the BEAR, and also the total minutes the whole school read! They raised over $16,000 :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img145/9216/90722574.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img401/1813/minutes.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Awesome.