Its oh so quiet Shh Shh [Archive] - Page 30

infernalis

01-08-2011, 08:06 PM

That is really a stupid thing to do. Could catch the house on fire or hurt someone.

People have been seriously injured doing that, it is very dangerous to do.

Personally if I had ANY control over what youtube allows, all "how to make flamethrowers/flash powder/lasers that burn, etc..." would not be allowed.

Put up a clip from south park, they pull it in an hour! show idiots how to die, and it stays on there forever.

kibakiba

01-08-2011, 08:39 PM

Yeah, I find it stupid that they pull SP but they wont pull all the stuff that can kill someone. It shows how wonderful they are, not caring about other peoples lives.

infernalis

01-09-2011, 09:04 AM

For the most part in the past if you wanted to make explosives, you had to learn some science (Physics/Chemistry) first.

Now you just go to youtube and see it done for you, no education required.

kibakiba

01-09-2011, 09:11 AM

infernalis

01-09-2011, 09:16 AM

Two cases of that right here in my little home town.

Both of them were hospitalized and one lucky he lived through it.

Like beevis and butthead with M-80's for toys, only worse.

guidofatherof5

01-09-2011, 09:16 AM

Yes, but there are people who aren't too bright and decide to use what they have instead of what they're required, and end up blowing their hands off. Especially when it has to do with chemicals, you don't want to mix stuff if you don't know what it does, yet some people would.

It helps weed out the idiots:D

Just kidding. Sometimes I think we have too much freedom of speech and expression in this country.
Somewhere something has gone wrong.
Just me opinion.

kibakiba

01-09-2011, 09:24 AM

I do agree with you. There is a limit that seems acceptable, anything above that limit is just too much.

infernalis

01-09-2011, 10:01 AM

Somewhere something has gone wrong.
Just me opinion.

I have to agree there.....

mustang

01-09-2011, 10:22 AM

in my opinion its all about how and who is and are using it

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01-09-2011, 03:31 PM

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01-09-2011, 03:38 PM

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01-09-2011, 03:52 PM

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01-09-2011, 03:59 PM

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mustang

01-09-2011, 04:18 PM

MY PARENTS COULDNT STOP LAUGHING AT THIS ONE....THEY SHOWED IT TO EVERYONE!!!!!
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infernalis

01-09-2011, 07:30 PM

guidofatherof5

01-09-2011, 08:37 PM

nothing funny about alcohol... sorry.

People die every day from it. (It's the innocent people who are effected or run over that concern me most)

Drunk parents should have children's services remove the kids from the home.

What Wayne said.
No offense Robert but it is a serious problem that affect or will affect most families.
I know how Wayne feels about it, we are not trying to preach.;)

infernalis

01-10-2011, 05:53 AM

I was raised by an Alcoholic father, he beat my mom while drunk often.

My daughter has several dead friends from alcohol.

and our power has went out in the middle of winter twice now because a drunk driver broke off the utility pole while driving home from the bar.

How many kids never make it home from spring break every year due to alcohol related deaths?

Steve was a Sheriff, I'm sure he responded to a few vehicle crashes in his career that were caused by drinking booze.

mustang

01-10-2011, 06:59 AM

its ok, i understand you guys dont find it funny and thats ok

guidofatherof5

01-10-2011, 08:46 AM

Steve was a Sheriff, I'm sure he responded to a few vehicle crashes in his career that were caused by drinking booze.

You would think I was making up the stories. The things I've seen are unbelievable.

ssssnakeluvr

01-10-2011, 09:02 AM

I don't doubt you Steve!!!! have seen some incredible and ridiculous stuff myself!!!

guidofatherof5

01-10-2011, 09:11 AM

I don't doubt you Steve!!!! have seen some incredible and ridiculous stuff myself!!!

I've thought about putting it in a book but most people would think me a liar.
The worst part is the tragic loss of life.
Like:
The 21 year old drunk guy who climbed up on a barn in the dead on night to steal the weathervanes.
It was frosty out, he fell to his death, landing on his head on a concrete slab.
He had been to the farmer's house weeks earlier(sober) trying to buy the items.
That night he sat at the bar, got drunk and lost his life.
All for property not worth $100.

Stefan-A

01-10-2011, 11:47 AM

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guidofatherof5

01-10-2011, 11:56 AM

Very cool. Thanks for the link.

ConcinusMan

01-11-2011, 03:56 PM

Well Chantel, better bundle up. Winter storm coming for us. Snow possible overnight tonight but Sunday, and Wednesday, especially Wednesday, look to be snow accumulating and very cold.

Epic forecast fail!

They were so sure we'd see snow on Sunday. We got rain and 46 degrees. Then they revised the forecast two days ago and said we would see 6-10 inches of snow in the Portland area on Wed.

Last night, they cancelled that and said it would start out as snow today around noon, then warm up to rain.

Then this morning they said we'd have a high of 35 today and possibly freezing rain tonight.

Well, never saw any snow, there's no precipitation as of this hour, and it's 40 degrees. Epic fail.

kibakiba

01-11-2011, 04:34 PM

Our area is always unpredictable. We did get some snow, about an inch and a half. It happened to be the night I turned my heater down more to help save some heat... Poor little snakes were all under the substrate, except Thumbelina... She was in her tree guarding it ;)

EasternGirl

01-11-2011, 06:47 PM

Yeah...I don't trust weather forecasters anymore. If they say we will have a blizzard, we get nothing....if they say we will get nothing....

Anyway, they said we were getting 4-8 inches tonight...more in some places. Now they are claiming 2-4 inches. I guess I'll just wait and see in the morning.

Last year was really bad...we got over 18 inches more than once...that is not common in DE... I happen to love snow, so I hope we get some tonight...it's snowing now but they say it's going to end by 1am.

Mommy2many

01-11-2011, 06:50 PM

We are getting it. Anywhere from 12" to 24" in Connecticut. I am in Danbury, right on the edge of the center swath the storm will cut. They have already closed schools (unheard of). Govenor will be on at 9pm about possible road closings. Should be a heck of a storm!

guidofatherof5

01-11-2011, 07:30 PM

World News Tonight was talking it up as a monster storm. Bombing areas with snow and blizzard conditions.
You members in its path, take care.

kibakiba

01-11-2011, 07:44 PM

I love snow too, I'm like a little kid in it. I love playing in it.

ConcinusMan

01-11-2011, 10:11 PM

Dang pinapple express keeps destroying our chances of snow in the Northwest. The only times we dry out, we freeze, and the only time we get any precip, it's coming from the south pacific and we get pouring rain and 50's. This cycle keeps repeating. Temperatures have been like a rollercoaster all winter.

By tomorrow, it will be raining on top of all that snow at 7,000 feet, yet earlier today, it was in the teens up there. Even Hawaii's tall peaks have snow on them, but ours are about to get rain. Unbelievable.

EasternGirl

01-12-2011, 12:09 AM

Well, it's still snowing here and I really hope they close schools tomorrow because I have my first class and I am still awake at 1am....I'm such a kid...I get all excited when it snows! They have started closing things...but...I better go to sleep!

Mommy2many

01-12-2011, 08:38 AM

Officially in my end of the state, we have at least 22" of fluffy snow. Our mayor has closed the roads in Danbury. So anyone caught out will be ticketed (at least until noon).

Not bad to shovel, question now is, where do we put it???

EasternGirl

01-12-2011, 10:03 AM

Ugh! We got snow...and every place is closed except my school! My son's school is closed and it is two blocks from my house! The public schools are closed. But I have to drive 15 minutes in this crap and sit in class for 4 hours with no sleep! Hissssss....

infernalis

01-12-2011, 11:22 AM

I just got a call from school, they are sending the kids home early.

The weather is nasty out here.

guidofatherof5

01-12-2011, 11:26 AM

Good Morning America mentioned Danbury Ct. this morning saying they got 18 inches of snow.
That's great Le Ann, you go girl:D

kibakiba

01-12-2011, 11:20 PM

Marnie, you gotta delete some private messages. I cant PM you. ;)

ConcinusMan

01-12-2011, 11:26 PM

Marnie, you gotta delete some private messages. I cant PM you. ;)

Shoot. I just told her the same thing in another thread. One of the mistakes people make is not unchecking the box that causes every message you send, to get saved in your "sent" folder. Totally unnecessary to have them there.

mustang

01-13-2011, 08:52 AM

Im about to take my spanish 3 midterm(im in the lab now(its an online test)), oh boy i hope i do good. i can get back on thamnophis when im done until then il stay logged on and minimize the window
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!:D

Mix

01-13-2011, 08:57 AM

Good luck!

mustang

01-13-2011, 09:46 AM

:othanks...i just finished....our mid term is 20% of our average, and we were given it in many parts like five or 6 different little forms of tests that will total our midterm...i know i got a 95, another high grade, a 56(just now:(), and i did bad on two other parts, and i dont know about the rest...ouch im scared.....i got ap biology next period....i maybe have 20 minutes...then im retaking two quizes or test in english (english 3 AP isnt english!!!!!!!!!!!! i loved english class this is a freakn grammer class, were learning rhetoric for the whole year! all im good at is free writing) and i lost the packets with the words and i convinced her to let me take it today instead of two days ago so i could study for it....science fair is supposed to help our avarage but i got to do that "turnitin.com" thing tonight so maybe ill still get credit (the magnet school i attend makes us do science fair 9th, and 10th grade and we can choose ism,ace,history fair, or science fair our jr., and senior year. wow this is gettn to be a long post haha:rolleyes:

Mix

01-13-2011, 09:50 AM

mustang

01-13-2011, 10:03 AM

I think my best advice for exams is to stay as calm as possible. If you work yourself up and get flustered, you'll forget things you really did know, or doubt your answers.
Stay cool! ;) and more good luck.
thanks, i got cool teachers so i think (and hope) ill pass and wont lower my average.
its wierd usually for most test throughout middle school, if i studied i did bad, and when i didnt study and i winged it(haha im a hunter so that to me is a pun) i do good.....well in HS that really dosnt happen:p study study study:rolleyes:or in my case procrastinate procrastinate procrastinate, then during the hour to two hour bus ride cram cram cram;) you dont retain the info for long but sometimes its just long enough for the test, then the knowledge leaves my brain to make room formore important knowledge (like the stuff i learn here!:D)
all except for the oral part of the exam in music theory(the sound proof room allowed me to really hear myself and scared me.:( and on the site reading(we get 1 minute to practice/sulfedge it and then we recite it and i thought i had it down but when i sang it i was stumbling on the sulfedge (we sing the songs sulfedge "do,do, re, la, so, mi, do, ti" etc.) but my teacher is cool and he knows im trying and he never fails a student unless we dont care and show it.
dang another long post!

drache

01-13-2011, 02:09 PM

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5246/5351342097_edf7f2c65e_b.jpg

ConcinusMan

01-13-2011, 02:13 PM

Care to explain, Rhea?

drache

01-13-2011, 03:03 PM

no . . .
just like the way it looks
can you see what it is?

guidofatherof5

01-13-2011, 03:14 PM

Are you talking about the top section of the lens?
You got me. Parasite?

drache

01-13-2011, 03:27 PM

oh now it's fun
I had thought it was too obvious, but I know what it is

gregmonsta

01-13-2011, 03:30 PM

Fish eye with ice-crystal?

guidofatherof5

01-13-2011, 03:37 PM

oh now it's fun
I had thought it was too obvious, but I know what it is

Fun for you, Rhea.:D
How about a clue?

drache

01-13-2011, 04:54 PM

okay then
this one's got a clue in the pic at the top of the frame
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5085/5351344973_a211681d69_b.jpg

this one gives a bit more context http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5165/5351336283_7f0eaec14e_b.jpg

Stefan-A

01-13-2011, 05:05 PM

I've got nothing.

drache

01-13-2011, 05:08 PM

I've got nothing.
no picture, no clue, or no something else
in other words - what kind of nothing?

guidofatherof5

01-13-2011, 05:10 PM

How about a frozen bird bath?

gregmonsta

01-13-2011, 05:11 PM

Icy water bubble?

drache

01-13-2011, 05:13 PM

okay - close enough
it's the ice from the rabbits' water bowl, artfully arranged in a cast iron skillet

mustang

01-14-2011, 07:54 AM

lools like a frozen bucket of water( (-1 bucket) mom puts those out near trees during the summer to water em)

ConcinusMan

01-14-2011, 04:03 PM

mustang

01-14-2011, 06:53 PM

ConcinusMan

01-14-2011, 07:24 PM

Not the answer I was looking for Robert, but nice try.

More specifically, I was asking where and how to transfer that 25% to the other figures, since there cannot be a 25% chance of producing snakes that are homozygous for both Iowa and Nebraska albino. The two don't combine. it's impossible. A radix cannot be both nebraska AND and Iowa albino at the same time.

mustang

01-14-2011, 07:36 PM

ConcinusMan

01-14-2011, 07:45 PM

Yeah, so what? If I had done that figure with the traits "anerythristic" and "albino", then the 25% in question would be snows. The genes for those two traits are located on different alleles. Some traits can be expressed in combination and that's how you get snows. Some traits will supercede the other and so a snake cannot be homozygous for both. You cannot have 2 pairs of genes on the same allele. There is only room for one pair. DNA is a double helix, not a quadruple.

An albino snake cannot be both T+ (nebraska albino) AND T-(Iowa albino). It must be one or the other.

ConcinusMan

01-15-2011, 03:18 AM

An elderly man in West Virginia had owned a large farm for several
Years. He had a large pond in the back.

It was properly shaped for swimming, so he fixed it up nice with
picnic tables, horseshoe courts, and some apple, and peach trees.

One evening the old farmer decided to go down to the pond, as he
hadn't been there for a while, & look it over. He grabbed a 5-gallon
bucket to bring back some fruit. As he neared the pond, he heard
voices shouting and laughing with glee. As he came closer, he saw it
was a bunch of young women skinny-dipping in his pond. He made the
women aware of his presence and they all went to the deep end.

One of the women shouted to him, 'we're not coming out until you
leave!'

The old man frowned, 'I didn't come down here to watch you
ladies swim naked or make you get out of the pond naked.'

Holding the bucket up he said, 'I'm here to feed the alligator.'

infernalis

01-15-2011, 08:00 AM

guidofatherof5

01-15-2011, 09:24 AM

Tough love. Nothing wrong with that.
Best of luck. Give me a call sometime if you need a break.;)

ssssnakeluvr

01-15-2011, 10:07 AM

drache

01-15-2011, 10:14 AM

I feel for you
she's around Mikhaila's age (12), isn't she?
computer time is to her what curfew used to be to us, I guess

infernalis

01-15-2011, 10:26 AM

I feel for you
she's around Mikhaila's age (12), isn't she?
computer time is to her what curfew used to be to us, I guess

15 tomorrow, One of those "hot topic - Goth wannabe" kids.

Runs around in "Alice Cooper" makeup and defies everything.

Somehow you can dress her conservatively, and when she gets off the bus, it's Elvira all over again.

happy times.:eek:

Stefan-A

01-15-2011, 12:35 PM

Today should be interesting... Our daughter was a real **** last night, so this morning while she is still sleeping I changed all the passwords on the computer, including the BIOS power on password.

Can't even get windows to load without it.
Unless you pluck out the CMOS battery for a moment, start the computer from a suitable bootable CD and copy and rename a couple of files in system32. ;) If that happens, she can lock everybody else out, until someone does the same thing again.

ConcinusMan

01-15-2011, 01:08 PM

ok well wheres my logic flawed...how do you explain the mimossa pied? it expressed both pied and mimossa coloration?

Pied gene works completely different than what I am talking about. The pied gene has to do with the distribution of pigment on the body, it has nothing to do with what type of pigment is produced. Theoretically, then, a snake could even be albino AND pied at the same time.

It's well known that you cannot combine Nebraska and Iowa albinos. It must be one or the other. Combining the two would result in snakes that are either nebraska or iowa albinos, and het for the other type.

ConcinusMan

01-15-2011, 01:13 PM

Today should be interesting... Our daughter was a real **** last night, so this morning while she is still sleeping I changed all the passwords on the computer, including the BIOS power on password.

Can't even get windows to load without it.

It's going to be rough around here today, the only social networking will be mom and dad or nothing at all.

oh well!

I would have just opened the case and took the cable connected to the HDD.:rolleyes:

Unless you pluck out the CMOS battery for a moment, start the computer from a suitable bootable CD and copy and rename a couple of files in system32. ;) If that happens, she can lock everybody else out, until someone does the same thing again.

Very risky move if it's an OEM computer. They often use customized bios settings specific to the hardware. Taking the battery out would result in a loss of those settings. Without knowing what those settings were, you have yourself a paperweight.

Stefan-A

01-15-2011, 01:25 PM

Very risky move if it's an OEM computer. They often use customized bios settings specific to the hardware. Taking the battery out would result in a loss of those settings. Without knowing what those settings were, you have yourself a paperweight.
I can't agree that it's that risky, but of course it depends on a few factors. Making it a paperweight would send a message, too.

guidofatherof5

01-15-2011, 02:17 PM

Just changing a Bios power on password isn't that risky.
Especially when Wayne changes it;)

infernalis

01-15-2011, 02:19 PM

Luckily, the child does not even know what a CMOS battery is, or the fact that one jumper can be moved for 3 seconds, and the whole bios falls back to default.

Oh, Richard.. I do IT for a living, so there is no chance of anything getting ruined. All data is redundantly backed up on DVDr & a pair of external drives, all critical data is also on a set of internal drives that are removed completely and locked in a box.

The only OEM computers I would ever own are laptops and trade ins.

The pre loaded software and the poor specs of OEM machines are lame. Plus the buyer has no control over who made the motherboard.

HP entered into a deal with Azus Motherboards a few years back, and churned out container loads of scrap metal. Because Wal Mart sold tens of thousands of a unit that nearly all got returned for a refund due to machine failure within the first month of ownership.

ConcinusMan

01-15-2011, 02:34 PM

The pre loaded software and the poor specs of OEM machines are lame. Plus the buyer has no control over who made the motherboard.

HP entered into a deal with Azus Motherboards a few years back, and churned out container loads of scrap metal. Because Wal Mart sold tens of thousands of a unit that nearly all got returned for a refund due to machine failure within the first month of ownership.

Tell me something I don't already know.:rolleyes: You couldn't give me an OEM machine for free. Oh wait, yes you could but first thing I would do is to rip it apart and use some of the parts to build something else.

Actually, the last time I owned an OEM machine, (long ago) the first thing I did was wipe it clean, throw away the OEM "system restore" disks, create a slipstream windows disk, and install the OS and drivers from that. Not surprisingly, after I did that, it ran 10X better than it did out of the box.

Why the manufacturers insist on crippling their hardware with the garbage they load up onto it, is beyond me.

Stefan-A

01-15-2011, 02:45 PM

Bought an OEM about a year ago, after I beat my barely functioning laptop to death out of frustration. Picked the cheapest one, just because I knew they hadn't stuffed it with a lot of extra garbage. I needed it up and running immediately, so I didn't bother doing anything special with it.

It's currently serving as my #2 (in more than one sense) comp.

Anyway, there's usually not much of the O in OEM machines. Apparently people have successfully turned PCs into Xboxes.

infernalis

01-15-2011, 03:02 PM

Anyway, there's usually not much of the O in OEM machines. Apparently people have successfully turned PCs into Xboxes.

Yep, Just about the time you thought you could count on Dell having an Intel motherboard wit ATI (AMD) graphics, they start using the Nvidea all in one board in the same exact chassis with the same exact model number.

The power supplies are a joke for the most part too. Why equip a machine with the ability to install six drives, and use a power supply that will barely power one? Add in card readers, high speed r/w drives and a heavy USB load, and it will smoke a supply quickly, unless you buy a good one to start with.

ConcinusMan

01-15-2011, 03:24 PM

What really ticks me off is when they customize the wiring so that an off-the-shelf power supply is not an option.

ConcinusMan

01-15-2011, 03:49 PM

drache

01-15-2011, 05:35 PM

15 tomorrow, One of those "hot topic - Goth wannabe" kids.

Runs around in "Alice Cooper" makeup and defies everything.

Somehow you can dress her conservatively, and when she gets off the bus, it's Elvira all over again.

happy times.:eek:
wow - lucky me - we're not there yet, although there are glimpses of defiance
for the most part it's just plain regressive unreasonableness over here, at times apparently amped by hormone surges
unfortunately it also sometimes causes objects to be hurled which is not a good thing in rooms lined with glass cages
it's scary to recall what I was doing at age 15; what about you? are you similarly amazed to have made it through your teens (and some of the twenties) alive?

kibakiba

01-15-2011, 05:46 PM

I was like that when I was around that age... I'm happy to have gotten out of it.

Stefan-A

01-15-2011, 05:47 PM

it's scary to recall what I was doing at age 15; what about you? are you similarly amazed to have made it through your teens (and some of the twenties) alive?
Speaking for myself, I'm not one bit amazed. I knew what to expect and I sailed through my teens without any puberty-related problems. I think I jumped from age 13 directly to age 70. My knees agree.

Mommy2many

01-16-2011, 07:49 AM

An effective way to stop the computer use from a defiant teenager?
Remove the hard drive-
If they have no knowledge of the workings of the computer, then all you have to do is unplug the hard drive.
Less labor intensive than removing batteries and or changing bios passwords, IMO.
I have one of those EMO-GOTH-defiant teenage girls, who likes to pride herself on getting around all of the parental computer controls. She has effectively F$#%#$ up our business computer on more than one occasion.
We have learned (the hardway) that we need to remove parts of the machine (parts you can't replace from another computer)
Good luck, Wayne! And mine is only 13...

Stefan-A

01-16-2011, 07:58 AM

An effective way to stop the computer use from a defiant teenager?
Depending on how much the kid knows about computers and is willing to work to solve the problem, just flip the switch on the power supply and tell the kid you actually did something else.

Won't work on the more industrious ones.

infernalis

01-16-2011, 08:01 AM

I went through a "stupid phase" and lost my way for a while.

Hormone wise she is a mess, right in the middle of puberty. Thankfully we live way out in the boonies, and I don't care if I have to stay awake all night we never take our eyes off these kids unless they are in school.

She would buy her whole wardrobe at "hot topic" if we had the money and I actually took her to the mall more than twice a year.

This summer should be a real riot. We spend most of the summer back at camp. No internet in the forest. However - the house is only a ten minute walk from camp at a brisk pace, about 2 minutes on a mountain bike like hers. So I can just imagine the fun this summer.

Mommy2many

01-16-2011, 08:23 AM

I should buy shares in "Hot Topic".
Mine likes to color, dye, bleach her hair every 2 weeks.
This week it is orange.
The other week it looked like a rainbow.

ConcinusMan

01-16-2011, 11:31 AM

My niece does the same thing. She used to have such lovely, healthy blonde hair. Now it's a wreck. So is her face. It's now full of holes.

kibakiba

01-16-2011, 11:35 AM

Sounds like me! Lol. I dyed my hair black and red and pierced my lips. It took me a year and a half to grow my hair out enough to get the black cut out. I bleached my hair 2 times before my hair started falling out and the black wouldn't come out. I also have 2 craters where my lip piercings were. Very regrettable.

drache

01-16-2011, 12:08 PM

on another subject . . .
Amazing World of Insect-Wing Color Discovered | Wired Science | Wired.com (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/01/insect-wing-color/)

ConcinusMan

01-16-2011, 12:20 PM

Random iridescence not so random after all, huh?

I wonder if this can apply to the iridescence seen on snakes?

ConcinusMan

01-16-2011, 06:45 PM

Anyone know what this snake is? It's gorgeous! Looks like it's wearing rings with orange stones in them. Freaky. The locality is somewhere in Nicaragua. My first thought was some species of coral snake but I'm not sure.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4128/5183044426_0c31f00d9d_b.jpg

Stefan-A

01-17-2011, 04:07 AM

Nevermind.

ConcinusMan

01-17-2011, 11:54 AM

:confused:

Stefan-A

01-17-2011, 12:20 PM

Found a snake called Scolecophis atrocinctus, which it could possibly be.

ConcinusMan

01-17-2011, 12:42 PM

I think you're right.

drache

01-18-2011, 06:18 AM

something for you dog lovers and/or folks interested animal consciousness:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/science/18dog.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha210

guidofatherof5

01-18-2011, 06:34 AM

Great article Rhea. Thanks for posting it.

gregmonsta

01-18-2011, 02:13 PM

Another couple of reasons to stay vigilant and look out for our hobby -
Ohio Governor Orders Ban on Dangerous Wild Animals (http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptile-news/2011/01/07/ohio-governor-orders-ban-on-dangerous-wild-animals.aspx?sc_cid=4721431)
Animal Rights Industry and American Family Business (http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptile-blog/reptile-nation/hsus-animal-rights-industry-american-family-business.aspx)
Animal rights groups will keep this up. Be vigilant and fight against them wherever possible.
I don't agree with a ban. Licensing would make sense. It has worked in Britain with the DWAL (although Pythons are not on that list - they are simply not dangerous enough/there should be a ban on idiot keepers rather than penalising responsible keepers).

mustang

01-18-2011, 08:03 PM

ConcinusMan

01-18-2011, 08:08 PM

Not even close:rolleyes:

http://www.1-costaricalink.com/costa_rica_fauna/wildlife_images/harlequin_snake.jpg
eastern milk:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/3571816305_1a75eed89c_b.jpg

If anything it looks like a ground snake:

http://www.snakesofarizona.com/groundsnake-cv.JPG

mustang

01-18-2011, 08:12 PM

ConcinusMan

01-18-2011, 08:17 PM

mustang

01-18-2011, 08:23 PM

Puget sound college!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!whos goin?

mustang

01-18-2011, 08:34 PM

Look for what? The snake I was asking for ID on is in Nicaragua. Stefan already figured out it's a harlequin snake.

You mean look for a central plains milk for me? In Texas they are only found in the extreme northern part of the state.
ooopse i thought you found a native snake....oh by the way
WHATS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????? ????????????????????
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/070130-toads-snakes_big.jpg
it looks like a garter but it isnt! (its not around texas but i found a pic of it while googling snakes...and the blog the image was posted on has been taken down)

guidofatherof5

01-18-2011, 08:58 PM

I'm guessing some kind of Coachwhip.
Off the top of my head.

ConcinusMan

01-18-2011, 09:30 PM

They eye and the head shape rules out garter just by glancing at it. Without knowing where it was found, I have no idea what it is. I do know it was posted by National Geographic and it's NOT from North America.

ConcinusMan

01-18-2011, 09:38 PM

:confused:

My car broke down a few years ago and I lived in it for a couple of days in the parking lot of South Puget Sound Community College. Does that count?

guidofatherof5

01-18-2011, 10:36 PM

I misread you post Robert. Coachwhip is out.;)

ConcinusMan

01-18-2011, 11:38 PM

How do I "fix" these calculation results from the advanced genetics wizard? I plan on doing such a breeding. Obviously, since the genes are incompatible, there's no way to get babies that are homozygous for both iowa and nebraska albino.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9314/93835319.jpg

I think I got it figured out. It should go like this:

25% chance of double hets (het Iowa, het nebraska)
37.5% chance of Homo Nebraska (het for Iowa)
37.5% chance of Homo Iowa (het for nebraska)

75% Total chance of producing albinos (Iowa or nebraska) All albinos would be het for the other type. All normal looking babies would be double hets.

There. That's gotta be it.

Nice. I like the odds.

Stefan-A

01-19-2011, 12:19 AM

ooopse i thought you found a native snake....oh by the way
WHATS THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????? ????????????????????
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/070130-toads-snakes_big.jpg
it looks like a garter but it isnt! (its not around texas but i found a pic of it while googling snakes...and the blog the image was posted on has been taken down)
Rhabdophis tigrinus or a very close relative.

ConcinusMan

01-19-2011, 12:57 AM

As usual, you got it right again. A search for that species name turned up a web page with that picture.

Juvenile Asian snake Rhabdophis tigrinus (Tiger Keelback Snake) from the toad-rich island of Ishima, Japan

Snakes eat poisonous toads and steal their venom - image 1 - life - 29 January 2007 - New Scientist (http://www.newscientist.com/articleimages/dn11048/0-snakes-eat-poisonous-toads-and-steal-their-venom.html)

Wow. They are pretty!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4680700557_401bd67a67_m.jpg

mustang

01-19-2011, 09:48 AM

that makes 2 points for stefan!
thanks

Stefan-A

01-19-2011, 10:03 AM

that makes 2 points for stefan!

Yeah, how sad is that?

mustang

01-19-2011, 10:24 AM

Yeah, how sad is that?
i meant recent points, your overall/total points are too many for me to count:p

Stefan-A

01-19-2011, 10:50 AM

My point was that I shouldn't be the one collecting points. Somebody else should be beating me to it.

ssssnakeluvr

01-19-2011, 10:55 AM

Tigrinus is also found in Korea.... :D I caught one there and kept her for 5 years. was a nice snake too. didn't know what she was until after she died and I was in Germany...found a reptile book that I found her in. thats when I found out she was a rear fanged snake....

ConcinusMan

01-19-2011, 01:10 PM

Better to find out that way than to find out as she's chewing on your finger.:rolleyes:

Mommy2many

01-20-2011, 06:19 PM

My point was that I shouldn't be the one collecting points. Somebody else should be beating me to it.

It is quite a challange for us but perhaps some will undertake.

mustang

01-21-2011, 09:46 AM

Better to find out that way than to find out as she's chewing on your finger.:rolleyes:
hognose are rear fanged? i see no problem with venomous rear fanged snakes

Stefan-A

01-21-2011, 10:31 AM

hognose are rear fanged? i see no problem with venomous rear fanged snakes
Clarification, please. Some rear fanged snakes do have potent venom.

guidofatherof5

01-21-2011, 10:33 AM

Like the Boomslang.;)

Stefan-A

01-21-2011, 10:52 AM

Like the Boomslang.;)
And the genera Thelotornis, Telescopus and Thrasops (aka. Rhamnophis) AND Rhabdophis.

In fact, here's a link worth checking:

Venomdoc Forums :: View topic - New dangerous colubrids? (http://www.venomdoc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2584)

ConcinusMan

01-21-2011, 11:58 AM

hognose are rear fanged? i see no problem with venomous rear fanged snakes

Venom is venom and must be treated with respect. I know of one incident in San Diego of kids that were handling ringneck snakes and allowing them to chew on their fingers. Those kids ended up in the hospital. Not that there was any danger of them dying but the venom had some serious consequences to their hands. Ringneck snakes in San Diego feed primarily on small lizards (and their eggs) and neonate snakes and so they have quite potent venom. They are quite capable of killing or paralyzing even a baby king snake since they are not immune to ringneck venom, and it takes far less venom than a rattlesnake uses on it's prey.

The only thing that makes rear fanged snakes any less dangerous than other venomous snakes is the difficulty in effectively delivering the venom, and the fact that they do not usually use venom as a defense. Instead they release it as a feeding response only, as a general rule.

drache

01-24-2011, 06:44 AM

so Greg
how do you feel about daylight savings time?

gregmonsta

01-24-2011, 07:31 AM

so Greg
how do you feel about daylight savings time?

Light is light and dark is dark :rolleyes: why mess about with people's body clocks .... after all .... there's no real 'extra' sunlight.

drache

01-24-2011, 11:00 AM

Light is light and dark is dark :rolleyes: why mess about with people's body clocks .... after all .... there's no real 'extra' sunlight.
It's pretty silly, isn't it?
I think it's a personal preference thing whether one wants more daylight in the morning or in the afternoon

Stefan-A

01-24-2011, 11:13 AM

Light is light and dark is dark :rolleyes:
Strictly speaking, light is light and dark is less light. ;)

gregmonsta

01-24-2011, 02:46 PM

Strictly speaking, light is light and dark is less light. ;)

Too true :rolleyes: you'd have a better grasp sitting further North than me. Bet you have words for all shades of darkness :D

Stefan-A

01-24-2011, 03:04 PM

Too true :rolleyes: you'd have a better grasp sitting further North than me. Bet you have words for all shades of darkness :D
Nope, just the two. Certain parts of the year we don't even have any use for half of them.

mustang

01-24-2011, 07:29 PM

Clarification, please. Some rear fanged snakes do have potent venom.
but its also harder for them to envenomate you...your body's got tho be pretty far down the their mouth-throat-ish area

mustang

01-24-2011, 07:30 PM

Venom is venom and must be treated with respect. I know of one incident in San Diego of kids that were handling ringneck snakes and allowing them to chew on their fingers. Those kids ended up in the hospital. Not that there was any danger of them dying but the venom had some serious consequences to their hands. Ringneck snakes in San Diego feed primarily on small lizards (and their eggs) and neonate snakes and so they have quite potent venom. They are quite capable of killing or paralyzing even a baby king snake since they are not immune to ringneck venom, and it takes far less venom than a rattlesnake uses on it's prey.

The only thing that makes rear fanged snakes any less dangerous than other venomous snakes is the difficulty in effectively delivering the venom, and the fact that they do not usually use venom as a defense. Instead they release it as a feeding response only, as a general rule.
ya they let them CHEW on their hands. key word chew

Stefan-A

01-25-2011, 02:21 AM

but its also harder for them to envenomate you...your body's got tho be pretty far down the their mouth-throat-ish area
Just past the eye, actually. Or the way snakes open their jaws, it's just about beneath the eye. It may not be quite as easy for a boomslang, for example, to envenomate you, as it is for a puffadder, but it's easy enough that it's reason to be cautious around them. It's also my understanding that there's not very effective antivenom available for many of the rear-fanged colubrids.

ya they let them CHEW on their hands. key word chew
"Chew" also covers cases where snakes bite and won't let go. Which is something some of the venomous colubrids will do.

drache

01-27-2011, 06:53 AM

we had another little duster last night

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5300/5392951004_6828f9d696_b.jpg

and no, those cars have not been sitting there since last time - they'd all been moved since
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5098/5392953878_a12834a222_b.jpg

Mikhaila's got her wish - no school today

guidofatherof5

01-27-2011, 06:57 AM

The east is getting hammered this Winter season.
Looks like your yard is filling up.
Be safe.
Mikhaila, grab a shovel and get busy:D

ConcinusMan

01-28-2011, 12:57 AM

Yeah, I've been pay attention. I noticed the east was getting pounded again!

Great photos Rhea! Thanks for sharing!

We had a "slightly" different day over the last 4 or 5 days in the Pacific Northwest. Sunny and 60-64 degrees! I went to the beach today (Oregon Coast) and it was beautiful! Running around in T-shirts! I'll post pics and video in another thread.;)

Mommy2many

01-29-2011, 06:45 PM

Ok, Here in Connecticut, my Husband had to shovel the roof. It's now a necessity and not a novelty here in the North East. We had another foot of snow on Thursday and the water started to leak into the house today from the roof. It took my Husband over 5 hours to clear our roof (sq ft 1156 of house) It was heavy and icy. We are expecting another significant snowfall on Tuesday or Wednesday again. I expect that means at least another 6" or more. We have surpassed the snowiest month ever recorded and are now trying for the most snowfall on record (ever) That was 1995-1996, a 115" of snow. That was the last time we shoveled our roof, by the way! We still have February to go thru and we may just make it! I'll try & post pics tomorrow. We have snow almost up to our picture window, so at least 4' in my yard! Can't see the mailboxes and can't see at the end of the roads to head out into traffic. Very dangerous these days.

guidofatherof5

01-29-2011, 07:07 PM

Sounds like your husband deserves a nice bowl of soup and a back rub.
From you of course:D

Mommy2many

01-29-2011, 07:08 PM

Sounds like your husband deserves a nice bowl of soup and a back rub.
From you of course:D

What????:D

Mommy2many

01-29-2011, 07:10 PM

I gave him a Smirnoff and some Bengay.
Same thing, right?:D

I even offered to make him dinner...now that's going a stretch!:rolleyes:

guidofatherof5

01-29-2011, 07:10 PM

What????:D

I don't want to give him a bowl of soup or rub his back:D
Just making that perfectly clear.:D

Mommy2many

01-29-2011, 07:14 PM

I guess maybe he should get a little TLC. He was in a foul mood this morning when he discovered the water coming in. (Probably because he thought about it last night):o

Anyways, for all concerned, I did make dinner and did have the Smirnoff cold and waiting. He came in, took 2 or 3 advil and sat on the couch. So much for my dinner!

At least our roof won't cave in. Can't speak for the garage, though:eek:

ConcinusMan

01-29-2011, 08:58 PM

I gave him a Smirnoff and some Bengay.
Same thing, right?:D

I even offered to make him dinner...now that's going a stretch!:rolleyes:

Oh, the things I could say. Better not. I haven't got banned yet. Well, I don't think anyone has been completely banned from this forum unless they were spammers. I should stay quiet on this one. Don't want to be the first.:p

Stefan-A

01-29-2011, 09:25 PM

Well, I don't think anyone has been completely banned from this forum unless they were spammers.
I can think of one or two. One came here because he was pissed off at his sister, who is a member, and I guess he was trying to get her IP blocked.

Another turned out to have a reputation of being quite the scammer and started acting suspicious when he found out that we were aware of it.

mustang

01-30-2011, 03:03 PM

I gave him a Smirnoff and some Bengay.
Same thing, right?:D

I even offered to make him dinner...now that's going a stretch!:rolleyes:
hes thinking the same as the kids....dominos only has thirty minutes or its FREE....but noooo now shes cooking dinner:rolleyes:...we can just let papa johns deliver (they got better pizza) and so what if its not free they gotta go through hell to get it to us...AMUSEMENT!
"hey kids come onto the roof and watch our pizza inch over here from 2 blocks away":D

ConcinusMan

01-30-2011, 03:05 PM

Last time I checked, Dominoes was 45 minutes or $5 off. They quit doing the free thing years ago.

mustang

01-30-2011, 03:06 PM

I can think of one or two. One came here because he was pissed off at his sister, who is a member, and I guess he was trying to get her IP blocked.

well i guess were a better family:p
we argue:rolleyes:
we talk to eachother:rolleyes:
we argue:rolleyes:
and argue more then admit its just good fun:D

mustang

01-30-2011, 03:07 PM

Last time I checked, Dominoes was 45 minutes or $5 off. They quit doing the free thing years ago.
order a $5 pizza from 3 different dominos!:p

ConcinusMan

01-30-2011, 03:17 PM

Don't you think they already thought of that? There's a minimum order. Oh, and I was just informed it's no longer $5 off. It's $3. Not that it matters to me, since I live just a few blocks from Papa Aldo's and their pizza is actually edible.:D

mustang

01-30-2011, 03:20 PM

guidofatherof5

01-31-2011, 07:26 AM

Expecting 4-8 inches of snow today and tomorrow(Iowa). We have freezing rain right now.
Calling it a huge storm. It's heading East after it's done with us.
Everyone take care.

zooplan

01-31-2011, 08:55 AM

I had a look at the forecast.
Hope your heating is working well!
No weather for hiking:eek:

guidofatherof5

01-31-2011, 10:40 AM

Kids went to school for 2 hours then it was canceled.:mad:

allendale65

01-31-2011, 11:52 AM

In my neck of the treeless prairie, we received seven inches of snow. There is presently 26 inches of snow on the ground. Today's high will not reach zero.

I am the cooperative weather observer for my county and make reports to the weather station.

Here is a photo of my neighbor's house/yard. You will notice that I have yet to take down their Christmas lights.....we had a blizzard on New Year.

Here's hoping everyone stays safe and warm.

ConcinusMan

01-31-2011, 02:26 PM

Feels like spring where I am. Running around in short sleeves. Mowed my lawn yesterday.:D

Mommy2many

01-31-2011, 07:05 PM

Ok, here it comes! We are getting anywhere from 8 - 12" of snow tomorrow, with an additional 1/2" of ice expected on top of that. All of it to end some time Wednesday night. Looks like at least 2 snow gays and maybe a late opening on Thursday.

My Husband spent all weekend trying to get the snow and ice off of teh roof. We had water coming into the house.

Our lawn is at least waist deep in snow (right now). I'll try and post some pics tomorrow or Wednesday. Can't see the mailbox anymore and it's not because of the plowing!

Mommy2many

01-31-2011, 07:41 PM

Oh, the things I could say. Better not. I haven't got banned yet. Well, I don't think anyone has been completely banned from this forum unless they were spammers. I should stay quiet on this one. Don't want to be the first.:p

:rolleyes: Don't think you should go there.
Husband is deserving of all I listed in previous post. Ice and snow exceeded 24" deep. Took all weekend to clear before next storm.

Stefan-A

01-31-2011, 08:39 PM

i would like to remind everyone here and new to the forum.....
we say things we dont mean
were not trying to be mean
if your offended look at the joke from our end of it!

just needed to get that out there before i say hahahahahahahaahahaha to the snow gays post

oh ya we might actually get snow...MIGHT
On that note: No bigotry, racism, sexism, nationalism etc. will be tolerated on my watch.

ConcinusMan

01-31-2011, 08:42 PM

The only reason I think you guys are getting that major snow storm is because it's smack dab over the middle of where I had planned to ship snakes to tomorrow. The storm is there simply to smash my plan to bits.:rolleyes: You're welcome.

HazAnga

01-31-2011, 08:49 PM

Well your welcome to ship them north of the border to here where there won't be snow till later on in the evening.

mustang

01-31-2011, 08:52 PM

On that note: No bigotry, racism, sexism, nationalism etc. will be tolerated on my watch.
sir yes sir!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1XEZMsFQoss/TP7N1x4COKI/AAAAAAAAAQE/Hz2awF3sbI8/s1600/Calvin%2526HobbesSnowmen.jpg

Stefan-A

01-31-2011, 08:59 PM

sir yes sir!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1XEZMsFQoss/TP7N1x4COKI/AAAAAAAAAQE/Hz2awF3sbI8/s1600/Calvin%2526HobbesSnowmen.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/20071112wulff.gif

ConcinusMan

01-31-2011, 09:00 PM

Well your welcome to ship them north of the border to here where there won't be snow till later on in the evening.

Actually, no, I'm not welcome to just ship them north of the border. Gotta have a live animal exporter do that. Your welcome to come get them yourself though. Just give me U.S. address to ship them too, and you're all set.

mustang

01-31-2011, 09:02 PM

someone do this and get a picture!
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Sharks.gif
or any of theese and get a picture! ADULT SNOWMEN!
Calvin and Hobbes Snow Art Gallery (http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/)

mustang

01-31-2011, 09:05 PM

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/20071112wulff.gifhttp://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/7.gif
adults MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!!!!!

PINJOHN

02-01-2011, 04:38 AM

just thought i would let you guys know about my local zoo
it contains not a single wild animal, the only creature in it is a dog

its a SHIH TZU :D:rolleyes:

ConcinusMan

02-01-2011, 12:39 PM

I don't get it

drache

02-01-2011, 04:11 PM

check it out - smart birds
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/science/01angier.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha210

ConcinusMan

02-01-2011, 04:45 PM

Oh yeah, crows and jays around my area exhibit high intelligence, that's for sure.

I few times, I took a peanut and tied or glued it to a piece of string and dangled it from a branch or clothes line. Pretty amazing to watch how they use problem solving to get the peanut.

Scrub jays here will discover a robins nest, say with one egg in it. Instead of raiding the nest and eating the one egg, and possibly causing the robin to abandon the nest and go elsewhere, the jays will keep checking back, waiting for more eggs to be laid. They know that robins usually lay 3 eggs, sometimes 4, and those jays will wait until there's at least 3 eggs, then eat them. Pretty smart!

Another thing I noticed when I was working at the VA cemetery in Portland, Oregon...

Oregon Junco is a bird that nests on the lawn, directly on the ground. When mowing, if a nest was discovered, we started putting flags up to mark the location so it wouldn't get run over next time. It didn't take the crows long to figure out that where there's a flag, there's lunch. We had to stop flagging them because as soon as we did, the crows would go straight to any new flags and eat the eggs or young. It was like we were putting up a neon sign that said "EAT HERE":eek:

We started marking them on a map of the cemetery and giving those to the mowers instead. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if the crows later learned to read the map too.:p

Whenever I feed peanuts to squirrels in my backyard, and a crowd starts gathering, the jays show up. They very carefully watch where the squirrels bury their peanuts, then swoop down, dig them up, and steal them. They jays are smarter than the squirrels when it comes to hiding their own stash. They look around to make sure nobody is watching and if another jay is watching, they will only pretend to bury the peanut, then while that keeps the watching jay busy digging, they go somewhere else to actually bury it.

kibakiba

02-01-2011, 06:18 PM

The ones here are stupid. We have a bird feeder and one few directly into it and killed itself. Some of them knew to hit it to spill the seed out, but the few that died were really dumb. The smarter ones hit it feet first, the dumb ones... beak first. We had a woodpecker that would sit on the bird feeder and hit it for hours. It never got through and he seemed to be determined to get the seed inside. We found him dead the next day too, broken beak. Our area has a lot of weird things though, there was a gasoline spill in the pond a few years back and that's when we started seeing hand sized spiders and such. It's like a horror movie when you see them. They almost look like tarantulas.

ConcinusMan

02-01-2011, 08:11 PM

Male woodpeckers will rap on anything just to make noise. It's not always about getting to something inside or for making holes. Also, I don't think that running into the feeder is because they're stupid. They're probably seeing a reflection of the sky, or some other illusion, so they think they can just keep on flying, or they think they're seeing another bird are attacking it. I mean, I can put a large mirror outside and eventually if not immediately a bird will kill himself by running into it. Doesn't mean he's stupid, just means he didn't know he was looking at a solid object.

Dang birds kept hitting my front bay window and dying. They would take off "into the sky" or so they thought, and BAM! dead.

Try painting stripes onto the feeder, putting stickers all over it, or some other method of making it appear like a solid object. Might help with cutting down on the dead birds.

kibakiba

02-01-2011, 08:33 PM

It wasn't one that had a reflection, it was one that's painted. Hitting it caused the seeds to spill out, which they would start eating after they hit it, if they weren't stupid.

Stefan-A

02-02-2011, 03:17 AM

Male woodpeckers will rap on anything just to make noise. It's not always about getting to something inside or for making holes.
Yeah, they're making their presence known to other males and especially females. They even select objects that make especially loud noise.

Used to have one that was fond of the metal roofing on our house.

ConcinusMan

02-02-2011, 03:51 AM

Had a pair of Colaptes auratus' (Northern Flicker) nesting in a large, dying maple tree in my back yard two years in a row. They just about drove me insane with their rapping on the metal exhaust pipe to my natural gas insert fireplace. Naturally, it produced the loudest noise of any object within their nesting territory but it also was very loud in my territory. My living room to be exact.

After they completed their second year of raising broods in that tree, I figured the natural course of action would be to cut down and remove that tree. It worked. Problem solved. Not only did it stop the summer-long rapping, but it removed a hazard of falling wood on my home, and a source of leaves to my yard every summer - Autumn.;)

I hated that tree anyway. Dropped leaves all summer for 10 years before it got weak enough and hollow enough for the birds to nest in. The birds were just the final straw. That tree had to go.:mad:

ConcinusMan

02-02-2011, 05:09 PM

http://www.failfunnies.com/37/images/smoking-is-cool-funny.jpg

PINJOHN

02-03-2011, 04:39 AM

i remembered it was ground hog day yesterday on your side of the pond and was intending to ask the result [is the winter nearly over] but with the massive blizzard that you guys are having to contend with, that would have been extremely high on the list of stupid questions
hope every one comes through in one piece :o

Stefan-A

02-03-2011, 04:42 AM

I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit too offtopic again. :o I'm going to have to move this to the official offtopic thread.

And he did get spooked by his shadow.

drache

02-03-2011, 04:53 AM

I forget what part of the country the groundhog lives, but here he would have gotten spooked by slush falling from the sky, not his shadow

mustang

02-03-2011, 12:44 PM

As you can see, not everybody does. Besides that, calling me gay doesn't offend me as it is nothing to be offended about. A few of the best friends I have are. Just so happens I'm not however. I apologize for the rainbow shirt and tutu comment though. That was rather stereotypical. Lets put this behind us. Sorry about that Bruce.

@ mustang: Once I made an anatomically correct snow family. I even put a speedo on the "dad", a long wig on the "mom" and a sexy nightie on her. She had cleavage and everything. Didn't go over too well with some of the neighbors, while others were stopping, laughing, and taking pictures. It was fun, that's for sure.

I thought about doing a group of them as a murder scene with body parts, "bloody" snow, and a knife or hatchet in one of the snowman's hands. Never got around to it though. I certainly will do that one of these days but we hardly ever get enough of the right kind of snow around here. It's either just a few inches and not enough, or it's too dry to even make a snowball, let alone a snow man.
like this
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/ac.gif
or this
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/ny.gifor thishttp://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Sports.gif
orhttp://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Traffic.gifor http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Shovel.gif

mustang

02-03-2011, 12:47 PM

or this
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Eggplant.gif
or this
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Cone.gif
or this
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/doom.gif
or
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Horror.gif
or
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Chicken.gif

mustang

02-03-2011, 12:54 PM

or
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Baddad.gif
or
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Snowdog.gif
or
http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/Xing.gif
or

http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/critic.gif
or evenhttp://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/nude.gif
orhttp://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/hotbottle.gif
or

mustang

02-03-2011, 12:56 PM

http://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/heads.gif

or lastlyhttp://www.chase3000.com/userpages/calvinhobbes/ex.gif
ok i think i have done enough damage :P

ConcinusMan

02-03-2011, 01:55 PM

I am soooo going to do some of those one of these winters. I like the one where the snowman is hanging himself. That should be easy to do. Those are great!

Stefan-A

02-03-2011, 01:59 PM

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/Monster.gif

guidofatherof5

02-03-2011, 02:09 PM

Very nice. Thanks Stefan.;)

HazAnga

02-05-2011, 09:06 PM

I have a bunch of pet peeves while driving and some just drive me bonkers! I just thought I'd start a thread where you all can name you pet peeves while driving.

Here's my list lol

-not using signal light. (even while changing lanes!!!)
-lazy drivers that can't clear the snow from their lights.
-people who don't turn their lights all the way on in crappy weather and at night.
-when the people in front of you drive at the same speed. (yes I can be impatient.)
-people who double foot. (Ie. one foot on break and one on accelerator, when are they actually breaking?)
-tailgating
-slow drivers when it really isn't needed. (sorry to play age discrimination but it's usually the older folks)

lol that's most of my list, for the most part, I could probably come up with more lol but ohh well.

guidofatherof5

02-05-2011, 09:29 PM

Tailgaters are top on my list.:mad:

Stefan-A

02-06-2011, 01:49 AM

I'm sorry, too far off topic. Have to move it.

zooplan

02-06-2011, 01:52 AM

:DDROLF:D

Sorry Nick and James.
I had to use my dictionary for the list
and google for those "tailgating"
It´s really funny when translatet to German.
We have no word like that.

( All Germans must be nice and deferential drivers;););))

I had an idea of some dragons walking in lockstep ( in line to the gaiting of the tail of the first)

gregmonsta

02-06-2011, 07:32 AM

The joys of translation :D ... the best example is when a student of language did some experiments with English proverbs. My favourite example was this -

'Out of sight, out of mind' - ie if you don't see it/know about it, you won't worry about it/be affected by it.

This was translated into Russian and then back again and the result was - 'Invisible lunatic'

:rolleyes:

Literal translation will never account for implied meaning.

HazAnga

02-06-2011, 10:46 AM

( All Germans must be nice and deferential drivers;););))

Lol I don't know about that one, My boss is a German fellow and he drives like a goon.

zooplan

02-06-2011, 12:03 PM

That´s might be called cultural integration:D
because he´s in Canada.
... or maybe we should integrate "tailgating" into German language:rolleyes:

Odie

02-07-2011, 04:36 PM

Lol I don't know about that one, My boss is a German fellow and he drives like a goon.

Yea, but you’re in Canada that's were "Goon" squads started :rolleyes:

ConcinusMan

02-09-2011, 03:24 PM

Welcome and hello from the Pacific Northwest. You can post now but it might not appear right away until it's determined that you're not a spammer.;)

Stefan-A

02-09-2011, 04:39 PM

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/lewcarr.jpg
What do you think, spammer or not?

And was this thread really necessary?

gregmonsta

02-09-2011, 05:32 PM

Oooooh ... free health insurance .... hang on .... how does that work? :rolleyes:

Stefan-A

02-09-2011, 05:37 PM

Oooooh ... free health insurance .... hang on .... how does that work? :rolleyes:
Ah, but what's free, is the health insurance plan. :rolleyes:

Here's a free health insurance plan: Get health insurance. :D

The funniest part is still his name.
Lewis Carroll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_carroll)

ConcinusMan

02-09-2011, 05:42 PM

What do you think, spammer or not?

And was this thread really necessary?

Sheeat, I didn't even see that. And no, I guess it wasn't.:o

PINJOHN

02-10-2011, 11:03 AM

saw my first frogs of the year in my garden pond today,the daffodils are poking their tops above the soil in my garden and the local parks,and spring isn't that far away. god its good to be alive :)

Mommy2many

02-10-2011, 08:12 PM

WHAT???
We are still buried under 2 feet of snow and ice. More expected on Saturday...

I am really beginning to hate driving with some (most) of the people these days...:mad:

guidofatherof5

02-10-2011, 09:29 PM

We are looking for 53 degrees next Wed. Maybe I'll get some T.radix den cam action.
It would be nice to see them peeking out.:)

ConcinusMan

02-11-2011, 04:29 AM

He's my young man chillin' in the fridge with a couple of his lady friends.
Hoping in about about a month he'll be seeing some action.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data/500/medium/chillin_.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/thamphotos/data//500/medium/chillin_.jpg

Snakes need water during brumation, at least that's what I have always thought. Might seem like a stupid question but how do manage that when they're crammed in there with a towel like this?:confused:

Just seems like a weird setup for brumating a snake. Of course, I haven't seen too many details on how other people brumate snakes, I just know how I do it. I just basically use a smaller enclosure, plastic tub, whatever, but there's always substrate or paper towel, hide, and a water dish.

zooplan

02-11-2011, 05:53 AM

Snakes need water during brumation, at least that's what I have always thought. Might seem like a stupid question but how do manage that when they're crammed in there with a towel like this?:confused:

Just seems like a weird setup for brumating a snake. Of course, I haven't seen too many details on how other people brumate snakes, I just know how I do it. I just basically use a smaller enclosure, plastic tub, whatever, but there's always substrate or paper towel, hide, and a water dish.Although this is a subject for a husbandary thread:

Snakes dón´t have open water in most natural brumation sites,
but high humidity of the air.
The brumation set up with a water dish is a king insurance, to have higher humidity in the fridge and to equalise temperatures.
I know about amphibian keepers, who fill all remaining space in their brumation fridge with waterbottles to slow down warming and cooling cycles.

guidofatherof5

02-11-2011, 06:44 AM

Nothing too strange about this setup. A towel to allow burrowing for that secure feeling and a water dish(short ziplock screw top container) for hydration.
Water change every two weeks. Weight checks then also. It's all done inside the fridge as quickly as possible to reduce any warm-ups.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/chillin1.jpg

guidofatherof5

02-11-2011, 07:44 AM

Snake Hibernaculum (http://www.co.vernon.wi.gov/LWCD/snakeHib.htm)

brain

02-11-2011, 11:22 AM

Good visual Steve.
Thanks

ConcinusMan

02-11-2011, 11:55 AM

Thank you

guidofatherof5

02-11-2011, 12:42 PM

Good visual Steve.
Thanks

Someday I hope to score a cheap walk in fridge to put to use.
That would be sweet.;)

kibakiba

02-11-2011, 03:57 PM

My order is on the truck for delivery! Yay!!!!! It's going to be here within 3 hours. I'm so excited to see what all the soap scents smell like and try out my new lotion base :D

ConcinusMan

02-14-2011, 09:04 PM

This is odd. Take a look at this screenshot. I did a google image search. This albino deer shows up saying something about Scott Felzer. I believe the deer is the same one that the idiots at WA Dept. of Wildlife seized from someone who was keeping it illegally. You know what they did with it? rather than let this person keep it (it was well taken care of clear into adulthood) they took it and euthanized it. Pissed me off. Anyway, I digress. I posted this image because when I click on it, (the albino deer image with Scott's name mentioned) I get an attempt to attack my computer by a poisoned web page. Not funny. Hey Stefan, I decided I'll just call this deer a moose. It's close enough:p

Anyway, I have no idea why his name would be mentioned on the image in the first place and I was curious about so I clicked it but it's an attack site. Weird.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5121/40858323.jpg

kibakiba

02-14-2011, 09:07 PM

That's because that "deer" isn't really a deer. It's a garter snake kept by Scott F. :D

ConcinusMan

02-14-2011, 09:10 PM

No it's not! It's clearly a ribbon snake. Or a moose.

kibakiba

02-14-2011, 09:47 PM

Your right, I'm mistaken, it is a ribbon snake!

ConcinusMan

02-15-2011, 01:07 AM

But ribbons are garters and moose are really deer. Wait... I'm confused.:p

Stefan-A

02-15-2011, 01:55 AM

But ribbons are garters and moose are really deer. Wait... I'm confused.:p
You got it right, why are you confused? :rolleyes:

ConcinusMan

02-15-2011, 01:58 AM

I'm confused because it is right.

guidofatherof5

02-15-2011, 06:50 AM

7 days ago it was 10 below zero. Today we'll hit 54 degrees. Typical Iowa weather.

zooplan

02-15-2011, 07:16 AM

Wow, that´s a difference of 36 Kelvin:eek:
What a hard chance!

Stefan-A

02-15-2011, 09:40 AM

A week ago we were just above 0C. We were at -24C this morning and it's -14C now.

ConcinusMan

02-15-2011, 10:51 AM

YIKES!

We had days in late January at 16 C. Quite a bit cooler now but still way above the freezing point.

Stefan-A

02-15-2011, 11:53 AM

edit: nevermind.

guidofatherof5

02-15-2011, 12:24 PM

A week ago we were just above 0C. We were at -24C this morning and it's -14C now.

How long to do you stay that cold? Or is a short-lived experience?
Here in Iowa we can get a weeks worth of it at a time.
Last Winter we seemed to stay below freezing for the entire season.
Now they're calling for temps in the 60's tomorrow.

Stefan-A

02-15-2011, 12:31 PM

Impossible to say, we'll have similar temperatures for at least a few more days. Could be just this week, could continue for another month. Could get colder, too, before it starts getting warmer.

It's a fun country to live in, the temperature can fluctuate by about 80 degrees Celsius from one extreme to the other during the year. In this part of the country.

mustang

02-15-2011, 12:41 PM

MY OPHIDEAPHOBIAC AP BIO TEACHER PUT A GARTER Q ON THE TEST:p and i was actually excited about it....well i thought yall would like to hear that since were all herp-nerds.
sorry i havent been on in a while....been really busy:(

Stefan-A

02-15-2011, 12:58 PM

So, what was the question?

mustang

02-15-2011, 01:03 PM

So, what was the question?
what form of genetic isolation fits each scenario

there two spicies of garter snake one lives on land, one on water. or something like that and i thought it was habitat isolation.

ConcinusMan

02-15-2011, 01:51 PM

I don't know of any garter snake that actually lives on (or in) water.:rolleyes:

mustang

02-15-2011, 04:35 PM

I don't know of any garter snake that actually lives on (or in) water.:rolleyes: i know :rolleyes: i made that clear...on the actuall test i wrote "thanks for tryimg....sounds like you were trying to say a ribbon snake (thamnophis proximus) and some other not nearly adapted garter snake...even though garters and ribbons arent genetically isolated and can produce offspring that arennt sterile AND no species (except maybe sea snakes) can live entirly in water and possably reproduce in water......" or something close to it

ConcinusMan

02-15-2011, 06:06 PM

Something along those lines does happen in my area though. T. ordinoides can be found in meadows and forest clearings many miles from any body of water. concinnus on the other hand, can only be found in habitats near permanent bodies of water such as slow moving creeks, rivers, lakes, and ponds.

While T. ordinoides are also found in the wet habitats shared with concinnus', they do not depend on those habitats. T. ordinoides is a small species that eats mostly worms and slugs. T.s. concinnus' are much larger and depend on reliable food sources like frogs, fish, newts, and rodents.

I think that the reason why concinnus' are only found in the wet habitats is because that's where their food is. They wouldn't be able to get enough food all summer long if they were far from water, whereas the much smaller T. ordinoides can survive on nothing but slugs and worms. It's obvious that concinnus' do not need more moisture or more water than any other garter but instead they depend on those wet habitats for the abundance of amphibians, (and their larvae) and small fish found there. The largest ones are always found near bodies of water which also have areas around it that flood, trapping small fish and amphibian larvae in shallow temporary pools - easy pickings!

All summer long, these pools are teeming with frogs, newts, tadpoles and small fish. Not surprising that the highest concentrations of T.s. concinnus in the summer are found right here. There are ordinoides around too but they don't hang out at the waters edge or in the water like concinnus' do.

It's really about the food, not the water. I walked out there after taking this pic. I spotted literally dozens of concinnus' in the water and near the waters edge and of course, hundreds of frogs leaping into the water.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1709/gedc1511.jpg

Mommy2many

02-15-2011, 06:31 PM

So Robert, did you get credit for your answer?

kibakiba

02-15-2011, 08:11 PM

I think I've mentioned it before, but I'm starting to make soaps and lotions that are all natural and I'd like to start selling them, but I need something to call them. Can you guys help me think of some names that might work for that? I'm no good at coming up with names.

guidofatherof5

02-15-2011, 08:52 PM

"Nature's Goodness" "Green Clean" "Nature's Soft Lotions" Chantel's Natural Clean"

kibakiba

02-15-2011, 09:10 PM

Nature's Goodness sounds almost like the place I buy my material from, Nature's Garden. :D

mustang

02-16-2011, 09:48 AM

So Robert, did you get credit for your answer?
i dont know she just grades em via scantron she dosnt reallty LOOK at the test i think...

ConcinusMan

02-16-2011, 10:21 AM

Woke up to heavy snow in Portland Metro area. Hey Chantel, you get snow too? I would think so.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4959/snow009large.jpg

kibakiba

02-16-2011, 10:29 AM

Nope, it's actually cold and slightly sunny right now!
It's funny, I live really close to mountains and almost always get no snow.

ConcinusMan

02-16-2011, 11:33 AM

This is at about 75 feet elevation
bm_Rd01_aYM

Mommy2many

02-16-2011, 07:21 PM

At this point, better you than me.

ConcinusMan

02-17-2011, 02:03 AM

Can't blame you there

Stefan-A

02-17-2011, 02:38 AM

Hill's Rolling Gold Cavaliers Cam 1 (http://www.marestare.com/fcam.php?alias=cavaliercam)

Webcam. Dog giving birth. Right now.
Another birth in progress. Same link.
(http://www.marestare.com/fcam.php?alias=cavaliercam)

mustang

02-18-2011, 09:52 AM

i dont know she just grades em via scantron she dosnt reallty LOOK at the test i think...
i asked smart people and yes it was habitiat isolation!!!! HOORAY I GOT THE GARTER SNAKE Q right! ( i feal like i accomplished something:D its a miracle i got it right even with over thinking it!:eek:)

mustang

02-18-2011, 10:29 AM

found this in an article on an oil spill
"According to the latest count of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's Daily Collection Report (PDF (http://www.fws.gov/home/dhoilspill/pdfs/collection_08022010.pdf)), only about 4,100 birds, 670 turtles, 70 sea mammals, and 1 snake have died in the Gulf since April 20 (assuming 50 percent mortality of live animals)."'Death Gyre' in the Gulf | MNN - Mother Nature Network (http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/research-innovations/blogs/death-gyre-in-the-gulf)

kibakiba

02-19-2011, 06:35 AM

I'm thinking about making a soap and lotion for my thamnophis buddies ;) I'll call it Garter Musk. Though, it won't be the kind of musk that comes from a garters' backside... I'll have to wait until I get my shipment of scents next month to see what I come up with. I shall have fun making Garter musk lotion and wearing it to my therapist... When I get compliments on it, I'll happily reply that it was inspired by garter snake musk. :D

drache

02-19-2011, 06:47 AM

Chantel
have you ever read the novel "Perfume" by Patrick Suskind?
if you are into making scents, you ought to enjoy that one
it's on my list of top favourite novels of all times

kibakiba

02-19-2011, 07:03 AM

No, I haven't read it. I'll have to find it at the library or order it next time I have some spare money after ordering. I'll write it down. Thanks. :D

guidofatherof5

02-20-2011, 11:58 PM

I'm not sure if Spring has really sprung but today I saw hundreds of geese and ducks headed North. We are also getting the robins back.
They are usually the best predictors of the seasons.

ConcinusMan

02-21-2011, 08:08 PM

I saw hundreds of geese and ducks headed North. We are also getting the robins back.
They are usually the best predictors of the seasons.

I had already responded to that post Steve, but naturally my post doesn't exist anymore.

Anyway, I don't agree with that. They don't predict anything, they just respond. Robins can be seen in my area all winter long any time the overnight lows are above freezing, and the ground is well thawed. In fact, there's not a lot of them, but they are around today. If that was an indication of what is coming, then they are flat out wrong.

An arctic air mass is dropping down from Canada as we speak. The city is bracing for a winter storm, sanding/deicing trucks are getting ready, etc. Record breaking cold and significant snowfall is expected Wed and Thurs down to sea level.

Chantel, I think you'll get it too this time around.

guidofatherof5

02-21-2011, 08:43 PM

I had already responded to that post Steve, but naturally my post doesn't exist anymore.

Anyway, I don't agree with that. They don't predict anything, they just respond. Robins can be seen in my area all winter long any time the overnight lows are above freezing, and the ground is well thawed. In fact, there's not a lot of them, but they are around today. If that was an indication of what is coming, then they are flat out wrong.

An arctic air mass is dropping down from Canada as we speak. The city is bracing for a winter storm, sanding/deicing trucks are getting ready, etc. Record breaking cold and significant snowfall is expected Wed and Thurs down to sea level.

Chantel, I think you'll get it too this time around.

In that case, please disregard my post as I don't know what I'm talking about.