Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[Zephyr]

I did see Brüno last week... :D
DEAR. LORD.
My friends went to see it.
They called me 30 minutes into it saying they were going to die if I didn't come to pick them up. XD

[reptileparadise]

:O the movie is brilliant! But that might be because I really like to see how americans "act in certain situations".
Just like Borat (Borat is better then Bruno...) I looooooooooooooove that movie!

I cannot recommend this movie to anyone because of its nature, but if you get the chance...Go and see it!

[Stefan-A]

I think I'll wait for the book. ;)

[Didymus20X6]

My tastes in movies range more toward stuff like LOTR, Star Wars (4-6, not too keen on 1-3), and the like.

Lately, I've been on a Mask of the Phantasm kick. For an animated movie, it is extremely well written, and Mark Hamill plays an excellent Joker. It's almost as good as The Dark Knight (and in some ways, better).

Any fans of Firefly/Serenity on here?

[Stefan-A]

I was never really a fan of Firefly, but these days I'd probably like it. I don't think there are any good scifi shows at the moment.

[Didymus20X6]

Firefly could have been a lot better if Fox has been more supportive of Whedon's work. They pretty much treated the show like a red-headed step-child during its initial run - they didn't promote it, didn't show the episodes in the right sequence, constantly bumped the show from its time slot for specials and such. Heck, even the way they put together the DVD's seems to be a hindrance rather than a help in enjoying the episodes.

[Stefan-A]

Probably true, but that never affected me over here. :) I just didn't like the Wild West theme.

[Zephyr]

:O the movie is brilliant! But that might be because I really like to see how americans "act in certain situations".
Just like Borat (Borat is better then Bruno...) I looooooooooooooove that movie!

I cannot recommend this movie to anyone because of its nature, but if you get the chance...Go and see it!

Borat was absolutely hilarious. XD
My friends say if I had a mustache and curlier hair I'd look just like him. :P

[reptileparadise]

Only the mustache and the hair? So I assume you already have the badingsuit :D

[Stefan-A]

Out of curiosity, has anybody here seen the movie Evil Aliens? :D

[drache]

learned two things yesterday:
1) when you have to leave the house for a while it's good to warn your visitors as to which snakes had a big meal the day before; and it's important upon return to make sure all regurgitated rodents have been located, so as to ascertain you won't find one under the couch pillow hours later (at least we now know where that smell came from)
2) phenobarbital is apparently not used for humans any more - as of yesterday, it has not been used for humans for years (or decades, depending on which pharmacist you ask), so even though it was possible to fill a script 10 days ago it's . . . well, yesterday it was impossible, and I'm going to have to call the vet to see whether they can give my dog a prescription for whatever they do have at the pharmacy - hopefully something where the pharmacist doesn't treat me like a junkie if I loose a quarter pill

[guidofatherof5]

Out of curiosity, has anybody here seen the movie Evil Aliens? :D

I haven't but looked it up. Sounds just like the kind of movie to rip on while it's playing.

Probably a better movie than "Frogs". It was so bad I insulted myself while/for watching it.:D

[guidofatherof5]

learned two things yesterday:
1) when you have to leave the house for a while it's good to warn your visitors as to which snakes had a big meal the day before; and it's important upon return to make sure all regurgitated rodents have been located, so as to ascertain you won't find one under the couch pillow hours later (at least we now know where that smell came from)


I have to ask, how did the rodent get under the pillow? On top of the pillow I can understand.

[drache]

I guess some of the regurgitation happened there
what I am imagining (not having been there) is that the snake was slithering under the pillow and started regurgitating there, but because of the recoil from the first rat, her head came out from under the pillow, thus causing the second rat to be regurgitated out in the open

[Stefan-A]

I haven't but looked it up. Sounds just like the kind of movie to rip on while it's playing.

Probably a better movie than "Frogs". It was so bad I insulted myself while/for watching it.:D
No, it's definitely not the kind of movie you rip on, it takes care of it, itself. :D If you've seen Bad Taste or Braindead (or Black Sheep), it's more or less in that category. ;)

[guidofatherof5]

I guess some of the regurgitation happened there
what I am imagining (not having been there) is that the snake was slithering under the pillow and started regurgitating there, but because of the recoil from the first rat, her head came out from under the pillow, thus causing the second rat to be regurgitated out in the open

Back for another question. Was the snake being held by the visitor or was it just out for a walkabout.
I don't have any free ranging radixes here at the Ranch, other than the outside ones. I have a few I'd like to let loose. They would be where the people are. I do plan on building a open snake room someday.

[guidofatherof5]

No, it's definitely not the kind of movie you rip on, it takes care of it, itself. :D If you've seen Bad Taste or Braindead (or Black Sheep), it's more or less in that category. ;)

Keep those titles coming. How about "Plan 9 for Outer Space"? or "The Mole People"? It doesn't get any worse/better than those.:D
They are oldies that have stood the test of time. They were terrible when they were made and have stayed that way.:D

[Stefan-A]

Keep those titles coming. How about "Plan 9 for Outer Space"? or "The Mole People"? It doesn't get any worse/better than those.:D
They are oldies that have stood the test of time. They were terrible when they were made and have stayed that way.:D
-Them!
-Thing From Another World (actually not that bad, it beats the remake :D )
-The Giant Gila Monster

Evil Aliens was actually intended to be funny, it's not 50's sci-fi.

[guidofatherof5]

[quote=Stefan-A;115397]-Them!
-Thing From Another World (actually not that bad, it beats the remake :D )
-The Giant Gila Monsterquote]

Watched the first two yesterday. Haven't seen the 3rd, yet.

Going to watch "The Black Scorpion" later today.

[drache]

Back for another question. Was the snake being held by the visitor or was it just out for a walkabout.
I don't have any free ranging radixes here at the Ranch, other than the outside ones. I have a few I'd like to let loose. They would be where the people are. I do plan on building a open snake room someday.
being held, I would guess - they were hanging out on the couch
due to the free ranging feline predators we've got no free ranging snakes
although we do have a free ranging house gecko in the basement

[Didymus20X6]

Did someone say "movie time"?

http://i29.tinypic.com/4s1fgm.jpg

[GarterGeek]

Haha. MST3000, right? Those can be funny sometimes. I think they actually did one of The Giant Gila Monster...

[Didymus20X6]

Just finished watching Mask of the Phantasm.

I love this movie. It's every bit as good as the Joel Schumacher films that came out about the same time, and actually, way better than Batman and Robin.

Now, B&R reeked! I could never get past the ice hockey fight scene near the beginning.

[drache]

sorry - I'm not on the movie track
I'm on the "can you believe what my snake did?" track
and isn't it funny how indulgent we are when their antics turn out okay?
Sean almost lost my snake, the one that's come back from the vet in PA with the rescue crew
because they came home late, my snake got to spend the night in a cooler knotted in a bag, and he didn't like it
in the morning Sean got a call from a neighbour that there was a huge snake loose in his yard (folks exaggerate)
so my guy had manged to undo the knot, get out of the cooler in such a way that the lid closed again (sneaky), found the doggy door, and was happily drinking from a puddle in the yard when Sean found him

[guidofatherof5]

That's amazing. Glad it ended so well.

[mustang]

i hate old monster movies like tarzan they dressed up real lizards and forced them to kill eachother

[mustang]

got to jackinthebox.com print out the coupon and get 2 free tacos no strings attatched yayayayayayayayayayayayayayay:Dalmost as fun as finding a baby westertrn coachwhip

[Mommy2many]

We don't have any of them up here any more:(

[mustang]

sooo sadddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd ddddddddddddddddd the world and its snake are crying for yopu...well all but one snake its the one that offered those people the apple and its geting stepped on right now

[mustang]

who sang the things we do for love? "too many broken hearts are falling in the rive..."

[ssssnakeluvr]

cool.....then have to drive for 5 hours to get to the nearest jack-in-the-box.... :(

[Mommy2many]

I guess me & my snakes will have to pass on the free taco deal today. But then there's Arby's roast beast sandwhiches tomorrow...:rolleyes:

[suklaamumina]

I've got a new baby! :D He's a Vipera berus and he follows me absolutely everywhere I go :DD

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/riivio_valmis_paa_pien.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/riivio_valmis_2_pien.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/riivio_valmis_1_pien.jpg

(If the pictures don't show: don't worry, this ain't a troll, it's a tattoo :D)

[adamanteus]

I'm going camping for a while. Later.

[drache]

that's a really cool tattoo design
I want one just like it of a garter, but which?

have fun camping, James

[reptileparadise]

Have fun James!

[gregmonsta]

Fantastic tattoo :D ... have a good one James.

[drache]

well I always knew it wasn't in California
Has Google Found a Stairway to Heaven in Brooklyn? - Bits Blog - NYTimes.com (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/has-google-found-a-stairway-to-heaven-in-brooklyn/?th&emc=th)

[MoJo]

2) phenobarbital is apparently not used for humans any more - as of yesterday, it has not been used for humans for years (or decades, depending on which pharmacist you ask), so even though it was possible to fill a script 10 days ago it's . . . well, yesterday it was impossible, and I'm going to have to call the vet to see whether they can give my dog a prescription for whatever they do have at the pharmacy - hopefully something where the pharmacist doesn't treat me like a junkie if I loose a quarter pill

Phenobarbital is still used for human beings but why are you trying to get it at the pharmacy? Your vet should be able to supply you with it. It might be more expensive but then at least it won't be on your record as you being on it. I doubt a pharmacist can fill a prescription for a dog, only for a human.

[count dewclaw]

Vets can write a prescription to be filled at a pharmacy, that way they don't have to stock so many drugs. Well, at least in NY they can, maybe other states are different.

[Mommy2many]

They could do it in CT as well. At least I was able to get amoxicillon for my bird 20 years ago.

[Corinne33]

The vet clinic i used to work at always called phenobarb into a pharmacy. If it was for a dog named fluffy owned by a guy named John Smith we called the patient name is as Canine Fluffy Smith and never had a problem

[drache]

we found a pharmacy that specializes in veterinary formulations among other things, and they had it in stock - and it's just a bus ride away
the prescription is for Nakita Nodel - like he's my kid

[drache]

I got to touch a Tenrec on Saturday - just the bristly part because the front end bites

[drache]

oh man - I can't believe this is happening
I know I've been pushing myself a bit hard recently, but still . . .
now I'm sick with a cold/flu thingy with a sinus infection or some such thing that makes my cheekbones feel like I got hit in the face with a board

[count dewclaw]

So sorry Rhea, I know how that feels! Hope you feel better real soon.

[drache]

bummed, and still sick
today was going to be part two of the SPARKS training (supporting parents in advocacy, reform, and knowledge in science) and I really wanted to go
the hard part is that I'm well enough to be bored, but every time I cough, or exert a bit of effort, I'm instantly sweat soaked and shivering, so three miles on a kick scooter is probably not a good idea, not to mention that some folks might not want me there dispersing my germs
oh man - we were going to look at animal skulls and they will be trotting out another creature the public doesn't get to see (last week it was the tenrecs), and there is going to be more info on kids' learning styles, and I'll miss it all
part of me keeps thinking: okay . . . if I go real slow and don't care whether I'm late, perhaps I can get there without a major sweat attack and then I can just sit of to the side and not cough on anyone . . .
too bad that doesn't seem realistic
I do want to do their docent training - the one were you present animals to school groups. there's one coming up this winter and they really need people
maybe once I'm on the inside I can suggest a knock-out garter snake display - I see a real lack there and would be willing to spend extra volunteer time to make it happen

[mustang]

hey what do you all do when your bored and have an expensive camera that may or may not be yours? i do ths hahahahahttp://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy158/JJmustang/IMG_2080.jpg

[Didymus20X6]

Anybody check out the username of our newest member?

I'm just waiting for all the "snake vitality" puns to start rolling in!

[Snakers]

yeah that name is messed up for a forum like this lol

[Didymus20X6]

Actually, I have a pretty good idea what it's really about:

http://i40.tinypic.com/35047bn.jpg

[Snakers]

mmmm my favorite

[Didymus20X6]

Cue the Vikings!

♫ SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM!

♪ LOVELY SPAAAAAAAAAM! Lovely Spaaaaaaaam!

[drache]

well - no posts yet, so you're probably right
they probably have a bunch of posts sitting in the moderator's queue that we'll be spared to ever look at

I do wish someone could help me figure out what to charge for snake boarding

[Didymus20X6]

A bottle of fine Scotch, maybe?

[jitami]

I do wish someone could help me figure out what to charge for snake boarding

Rhea, that's a tough one. I was thinking probably not much, but it would depend on how much it would inconvenience you.

Here are a couple websites I found with pricing:

Reptile Specialists - Boarding Info (http://www.reptilespecialists.com/boarding.html)

Reptile Boarding (http://thetyedyediguana.com/pages/Reptile-Boarding.html)

Should at least give you a place to start?

[drache]

Here are a couple websites I found with pricing:
Reptile Specialists - Boarding Info (http://www.reptilespecialists.com/boarding.html)
Reptile Boarding (http://thetyedyediguana.com/pages/Reptile-Boarding.html)
thanks a ton, Tami
that's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for

[mustang]

Actually, I have a pretty good idea what it's really about:

http://i40.tinypic.com/35047bn.jpg
:Dgot one better
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m38/cassyy_xx/art%20ish/bumble-bee-tuna.jpg

[mustang]

Cue the Vikings!

♫ SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM!

♪ LOVELY SPAAAAAAAAAM! Lovely Spaaaaaaaam!

♪Yum yum Bumble, Bumblebee Tuna
I Love Bumblebee, Bumblebee Tuna
Yum yum Bumble, Bumblebee Tuna
I love a sandwich made with Bumblebee

Yum yum Bumble, Bumblebee Tuna
I Love Bumblebee, Bumblebee Tuna
Yum yum Bumble, Bumblebee Tuna
I love a sandwich made with Bumblebee♪


there was a longer version...but it is a whole song! wow

[drache]

yeah - that's the stuff pregnant women and young children should not eat more than once per week because of the high mercury content

[drache]

Grim piñata

what's up with that, Stefan?
someone beating up on you?

[Stefan-A]

Grim piñata

what's up with that, Stefan?
someone beating up on you?
It's a signature. ;)

[drache]

yeah, I know
just something I'm not getting and now I think it may refer to something completely different from what it evokes for me
I do read people's signatures sometimes

[Quibble]

Does anyone have a use for scrap pieces of pearl? I might just have a part time job if I can figure out where to sell it.

[Zephyr]

Hey everyone. Just felt the need to post. :P
I've been abnormally busy since school started; I've had to cut my collection down to the things I love most: Cockroaches, eastern garters, and clawed frogs.
The litter my female eastern had has grown more than any other set I've ever seen. They're only a little over a month old and most of them are already pushing a foot long. I'll get pics of them up soon.
All my other easterns are doing great as well. The garter project is winding down with the data pointing to brumation gathering mainly serving the purpose of amassing snakes for reproduction.
Just in case any one was wondering where I've been. :P

[guidofatherof5]

Nice to here from you. Kyle is doing fine. He told me to tell you Hello.

[reptileparadise]

I officialy don't like my blue pugets anymore....





One of the bastards (best looking male) played dead today. Jeez, he scared me!
But then again...he ate and is sleeping in an empty feedingdish

[count dewclaw]

If you didn't live so far away I would offer to give him a good home where he wouldn't be able to scare you anymore! ;):D Seriously though, I'm glad he is ok and was just "playing dead".

[guidofatherof5]

I officialy don't like my blue pugets anymore....


One of the bastards (best looking male) played dead today. Jeez, he scared me!
But then again...he ate and is sleeping in an empty feedingdish

That's called payback. Your snake is laughing at your reaction. When you left the room the rest of the snakes were cheering for him.:D Those little beggers have a weird sense of humor.:D

[Stefan-A]

I've almost perfected my teleporter :rolleyes: you just need a microwave and a mobile phone and about 2 square miles of kitchen foil ;) .... nine out of ten times you don't materialise inside out .... I promise :D
Good, because I still have nightmares about that cat.

[gregmonsta]

Good, because I still have nightmares about that cat.

:rolleyes: It wasn't too bad .... still tasted good!!!

[reptileparadise]

uhh...what?
Would it be dangerous to step inside the teleporter together? As in merging together? Half octopus half sponge? (Am I the only adult watching spongebob?)

[Stefan-A]

(Am I the only adult watching spongebob?)
Am I the only adult playing Half-Life 2? :D

[gregmonsta]

Don't worry ;) the cell phone can handle multiple texts .... erm .... transactions at once :cool:

[gregmonsta]

Am I the only adult playing Half-Life 2? :D

Lol ... :rolleyes: am I the only one that still maintains a PS1 and can retro-game on an Amiga 500 and an old Atari console? :D

[reptileparadise]

Retro gaming is hot these days!
I wish my brother didn't take the SNES when he moved out

OT; almost nine days to snakeday (we're kinda losing sight of the original subject)

[Stefan-A]

Lol ... :rolleyes: am I the only one that still maintains a PS1 and can retro-game on an Amiga 500 and an old Atari console? :D
Don't make me whip out my Commodore 64. Or my -75 Gamatic with three versions of Pong.


OT; almost nine days to snakeday (we're kinda losing sight of the original subject)
You're absolutely right. My apologies. :D

[gregmonsta]

Don't make me whip out my Commodore 64. Or my -75 Gamatic with three versions of Pong.


You're absolutely right. My apologies. :D

Hehe :o it's good to get carried away :rolleyes: I remember my C64 ... I remember killing a couple of tape drives waiting for the damn games to load!!! Cartridges were the way forward at that time.

[reptileparadise]

................loading.......................



...............loading..........................




.................Loading.....................

[gregmonsta]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!! :D

[count dewclaw]

Am I the only adult playing Half-Life 2? :D

My husband plays Half-Life 2; I recognized the G-man in your avatar from watching my husband shoot all the aliens, etc. One cannot shoot the G-man....

[Stefan-A]

My husband plays Half-Life 2; I recognized the G-man in your avatar from watching my husband shoot all the aliens, etc. One cannot shoot the G-man....
Ah, finally somebody who recognizes at least one of the references to that game that I've made since I started playing. :D

[Stefan-A]

Hehe :o it's good to get carried away :rolleyes: I remember my C64 ... I remember killing a couple of tape drives waiting for the damn games to load!!! Cartridges were the way forward at that time.
I still have the drive that came with it back in 1985 or -86 when I got it. Parts are missing from it, but it still works. Or, it worked last time I had it hooked up, which must have been about 10 years ago.

Looking back, it's amazing the tape drive even worked as well as it did. Loading games on it, is like routinely making transatlantic flights with the Wright Flyer.

[count dewclaw]

"Ah, finally somebody who recognizes at least one of the references to that game that I've made since I started playing. :D " Quote from Stafan-A's post...

I'll have pay attention better, I'm sure I missed some since I'm not usually thinking about Half-Life 2 when I'm on this forum....;)

[Stefan-A]

Ask him about my signature. ;)

[count dewclaw]

I did, he's clueless...:rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

:D That figures. It's uttered by a friendly alien in Episode Two.

[count dewclaw]

Well, in his favor, I did ask while he was watching a movie...he doesn't always multi-task well.

[drache]

need to ramble . . .
my neighbour's house is being resided, and I didn't so much mind the banging and popping when the old stuff was removed, but the compressor for the nail gun is driving me nuts
so now I've figured out why I haven't been able to think
yesterday I had a brief window of mental capacity and I used it well - finally figured out my sokoban of cages puzzle, and ended up moving a whole bunch of garters around, creating a new bachellor tank and putting a pair of parietalis together in the process
the parietalis male is already twitchy all over the female, and to my surprise and amusement, the vagrans male is twitchy all over the concinnus male

[adamanteus]

Hi Guys.
I've been away for a while doing some stuff. But I'm back now. Judging by the two private messages I was swamped with in my absence, I've been sorely missed!;)

[Stefan-A]

Don't let the absence of messages fool you, you have been missed. :)

[adamanteus]

Thank you, Stefan. I love you too.:D

[Stefan-A]

You better. :D

[drache]

whew! am I glad I was wrong
I seriously started thinking you'd gotten so tired of us, we'd lost you for good this time
good to see you

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

It's good to have you back James!!!

here are some hearts

<333333

[mustang]

yo dude thought u dumped us for a cornsnake group!!! yay ur back

[count dewclaw]

Welcome back James. I actually did think about sending a PM last week, but obviously the thought was as far as I got... :o The forum hasn't been the same without you.

[adamanteus]

Thank you all for the wecome back! I'll try not to go AWOL again!:D

[ssssnakeluvr]

welcome back.... and try real hard :rolleyes:

[mustang]

next time we'll send the MP's on ya

[mustang]

Common Sense 2020 » Blog Archive » Video: “The Day ObamaCare Died” by Barack Obama (http://commonsense2020.com/2009/09/27/video-the-day-obamacare-died-by-barack-obama/) its a spoof on amarican pie!!! o i lied lied in every town in sight drove my chevy round the country tryn to put up a fight!hahahahaha awsome song!

[ConcinusMan]

Can you believe this? This can't be right, and if it is, I'm sure I'm too late, or won't get a reply. I would happily pay 3 times what they are asking for, if these are healthy snakes. Ad here:

3 good snakes need home (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pet/1447852597.html)

[Stefan-A]

Over here.

[ConcinusMan]

Can you believe this? This can't be right, and if it is, I'm sure I'm too late, or won't get a reply. I would happily pay 3 times what they are asking for, if these are healthy snakes. Ad here:

3 good snakes need home (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pet/1447852597.html)

Ooops. That post was a boo-boo. I posted it already. I Didn't mean to make it a reply to this thread. Oh wait, I see it was moved although I have no idea why.

[Stefan-A]

Ooops. That post was a boo-boo. I posted it already. I Didn't mean to make it a reply to this thread. Oh wait, I see it was moved although I have no idea why.
It was moved, because it didn't really need a thread of its own.

[ConcinusMan]

Your call. I would be more likely to read a new thread though. Bury it in an ongoing thread with hundreds of pages and it's easily missed. Not that I really care in this particular case. It's not MY ad, and I really wouldn't mind getting my hands on all, or any of those snakes, or even just the housing at that price. I even offered twice what they were asking, hoping to get a response. Nothing so far but the ad is only about 6 hours old.

[ConcinusMan]

On second thought, I probably shouldn't have posted that ad. You guys might out bid me. Sure would like to have the milk snake. There's pics now on the ad, and the only email response I got was no text and pictures attached. They all look healthy, but that doesn't look like a candy cane corn to me. Looks pretty normal.

[ConcinusMan]

For some reason, I can't edit my post, so here's a third in a row, but I wanted to let you know I just talked to the lady. She seems very nice and knowledgeable about her snakes, and says that all 3 have been with her since they were babies. She's having a hard time now financially and as hard as it is for her, she must give them up. It's no joke. She was only asking $25 each, with housing. Not sure what accessories she has such as lighting and heat, but in her situation, I figured I would offer her a fair price for the milk. I offered her $50 and she accepted. I'm picking it up tomorrow. Oh, and BTW, she says her CA king is sweet as can be, and is CB purchased from petco.

[mustang]

For some reason, I can't edit my post, so here's a third in a row, but I wanted to let you know I just talked to the lady. She seems very nice and knowledgeable about her snakes, and says that all 3 have been with her since they were babies. She's having a hard time now financially and as hard as it is for her, she must give them up. It's no joke. She was only asking $25 each, with housing. Not sure what accessories she has such as lighting and heat, but in her situation, I figured I would offer her a fair price for the milk. I offered her $50 and she accepted. I'm picking it up tomorrow. Oh, and BTW, she says her CA king is sweet as can be, and is CB purchased from petco.
HEY EVERYONE, HE SAID A BAD WORD, HE SAID "P3T0o", lets get 'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek: kidding must have not been there at "P3T0o" that long

hehe i made a funny :P

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, I know. Petco.. where the pets go (to die)

Actually, around here, my experience has been that Petco has a very limited selection of reptiles/herps and a very good rep for good husbandry/ sources. I've seen far worse. They are the only local source for a steady supply of pinkies, wingless fruit flies (for my CB spiny lizard neotates) and pinhead crickets for my carnivorous plants, live and frozen brine shrimp for my betas... well, they aren't so bad. Expensive, but not so bad in the quality dept. Hey, they kept my T. sirtalis concinnus well-fed for 20 years, when I wasn't feeding them wild-collected tadpoles, nightcrawlers, frogs, etc.

[drache]

Petcos can vary greatly from store to store
we have another smaller chain here - Petland Discounts - same deal
some stores are just awful with obviously neglected animals and others are amazing
it all depends on the store manager, I guess, and sometimes one good knowledgeable employee can make all the difference

[GarterGeek]

The Petco and Petsmart in my area actually provide decent (even attractive) set-ups for their creatures. The supplies are cheap, which I guess is the case for any chain store. The only problems I've seen are mislabeling and some misinformed employees. I've actually seen worse situations in privately owned pet stores.

[ConcinusMan]

Same here. The petco near me recently moved into a new location and my lordy, this place is fantastic. The herp setup is amazing, the animals are very well cared for and healthy. There's a reptiles-only privately owned pet store here that I refuse to go in anymore because it breaks my heart. The condition of the animals is appalling due to terrible husbandry. Some of the animals are even dead, still lying in the tanks.

[drache]

oh my, I just stumbled upon the mother lode of pricey toxic chemicals in one of my boxes - potassium chloroplatinite, and some other stuff, some of it unlabelled, but I can probably figure out what it is. I suspect, all I need is some hydrochloric acid and I'll be good to go - even found the lab notes
I can't believe I've shlepped this stuff along through something like six or seven moves over the course of a couple of decades - what now? am I really going to use it? does anybody do weird photo processes any more?

[drache]

here's a shred of positive news affecting two of our favourite garter species
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/25/opinion/25weds4.html?th&emc=th

[drache]

wow - it really is quiet around here

[guidofatherof5]

Tryptophan overdose.:D

[ConcinusMan]

LoL^^^ I imagine many of us were busy with our Thanksgiving. Can't stand baked turkey though. Gorged myself on prime rib and honey baked ham. Now I'm watchin' the Macy's parade recorded on my PC in HD, and drinkin' a Guiness. Oh yeah.

[drache]

wer'e doing the eating a day later
glad you guys enjoyed yourself
I just wish I could be back home in Brooklyn

[jitami]

If anyone could help this guy I'd really appreciate it! Have only met him once, but seems like such a great guy and I know how important it is to him to be able to do this for his wife who's health is declining rapidly. Please comment, rate, and share...

Please watch the below youtube video and leave a comment & rating. This really touched me and I'd love to help him make it happen... he's suddenly falling way behind and could use all the help he can get. Please feel free to crosspost & forward.

YouTube - Lashes to Riches Entry: Branndon Coelho (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAv6YEGbuTs)

Here's an explanation from the video's maker:

It's been a dream of mine to take my wife around the country to see America before her Multiple Sclerosis really gets to her. She's already gone blind in her right eye.

Well there is a contest I am a part of where I can win $100k and I would use that money to get her mercury fillings removed, and buy our dream RV and truck to pull it.

All you need to do is comment on this video daily. YouTube - Lashes to Riches Entry: Branndon Coelho You can comment every day and each comment is a vote for me! The leaders only have around 300 votes right now, so it won't take much for me to win if every one of you who can, votes daily. Thank you.

Thanks!
Branndon

[ConcinusMan]

Done^^^ again.

[jitami]

Thanks ConcinnusMan :) Seems he's fallen so far behind, but you never know...

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, looks to be WAY behind. Noble cause but I guess goofy entertainment gets more comments.

[jitami]

Yep. He was hanging on to a close lead over the rapper kid, but that girl just popped up out of nowhere and passed both of them within a day. She had a huge youtube following in place already.

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, exactly the same thing I perceived. Tessa's got experience with catching an audience.

[ConcinusMan]

Today is the 1 year anniversary of the big storm for the Northwest. It started to snow about 6am with blizzard conditions at times and a high of 18 degrees. By noon we had about 10 inches and there was no sign of letting up. Snowed half the night too. When all was said and done, about 2 feet fell in 24hrs. The forecast had called for 3-6 inches. It stayed cold enough that we had a rare white Christmas. Check out the video: YouTube - Snow On Christmas 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNN9oYZ3BQg)

My street: http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5789/gedc0527.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6588/slightdustingue5.jpg

Nothing exciting this year. High 47, overcast.

I know for many of you, this would be no big deal, but we shattered a record set in 1918 ! This was the most snow on the ground at one time in the Portland area since that year. I hear that you guys in sirtalis sirtalis country are getting slammed the last few days. How much did you get?

[commongartersnake]

I haven't posted in a while because of reasons which are way to long to type but I need to now share with you guys something I made...


I made a forum for finding your daemon, by the way daemons are good! I created this forum and currently running it if anyone is interested in becoming a member feel free I would be most happy if you became a member.

A daemon is your subconscious, take usually takes an animal form, but can be human forms.

My daemon is a settled cream pomeranian, so that makes me a pomeraniansoul.

PLEASE if anyone out there is interested, to become a member do so

this is the link >>> http://thumbs.freewebs.com/Members/viewThumb.jsp?fileID=132897642&size=thumb (http://daeblog.forummotion.com/forum.htm) <<< click it now!

[commongartersnake]

Bumpidy bump bump...?

[commongartersnake]

DOES anyone take interest in this topic????

BUMP

[GarterGeek]

I'm not sure I quite understand what a "daemon" exactly is. Perhaps you could explain a little more?

What do people discuss on the forum?

[commongartersnake]

Alright :)

A daemon is like an imaginary friend, who you project (see) when ever you feel and talk to. The only thing is this friend is your subconscious so its a part of you a Daemon is one was of looking at this and quite awesome too.

A daemon is your subconscious that your project and talk to, which is in the form of an animal or if you wish a human. They usually settle as animals. No one else but you can see your daemon, your daemon is you, your subconscious.

The idea is cool my daemon is named Taziumi or Taz for short I'm a settled cream pomeranian.

I hope you join! Daeblog forum >>> http://thumbs.freewebs.com/Members/viewThumb.jsp?fileID=132897642&size=thumb (http://daeblog.forummotion.com/forum.htm)
(I made that image)

Technically your discussing yourself or your daemon :)

[ConcinusMan]

I don't have to imagine. I actually DO have a cream pomeranian, along with 3 other members of her family. :p Should have got back into snakes instead. With the money I've spent on the dogs, I could have practically bought out Scott Feltzer's entire collection. OK, maybe not, but perhaps all of the '09 offspring.
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6890/gedc0493.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Alright :)

A daemon is like an imaginary friend, who you project (see) when ever you feel and talk to. The only thing is this friend is your subconscious so its a part of you a Daemon is one was of looking at this and quite awesome too.

A daemon is your subconscious that your project and talk to, which is in the form of an animal or if you wish a human. They usually settle as animals. No one else but you can see your daemon, your daemon is you, your subconscious.

The idea is cool my daemon is named Taziumi or Taz for short I'm a settled cream pomeranian.

I hope you join! Daeblog forum >>> http://thumbs.freewebs.com/Members/viewThumb.jsp?fileID=132897642&size=thumb (http://daeblog.forummotion.com/forum.htm)
(I made that image)

Technically your discussing yourself or your daemon :)
Do people actually believe that, or is it just for fun?

[ConcinusMan]

^^^ I was thinkin' it, but didn't say it.

The following is totally unrelated but the northern part of concinnus territory got the first significant snow of the season yesterday and the day before. We got 6 inches in a very short time. All gone now though. I like it that way.

[drache]

wow - it just started snowing here - really snowing, and really pretty right now

[commongartersnake]

Do people actually believe that, or is it just for fun?

Yeah people believe it, I do anyway. I like it, and once I got use to talking with my daemon I just yeah it works and its true.

Its a different way of looking at your subconscious :D

[drache]

another parataxic universe

[ConcinusMan]

I just used that snake measuring program to measure Jewels.(pueblan milk) Boy was I off by far. I figured she was just over 3 feet but she's 44.7 inches- nearly 4 feet. Cool program.

[drache]

this caught my eye:
Television Review - PBS Looks at Pythons’ Threat in Everglades - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/20/arts/television/20pythons.html?th&emc=th)
we don't have TV/cable, but one can also watch it here: Nature | PBS (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/)

[gregmonsta]

Woot banana pickle woodberry chips!!!!

Well .... I can't reply to any threads at the moment .... so I thought I'd better let you know :P

[gregmonsta]

Woot banana pickle woodberry chips!!!!

[gregmonsta]

Hang on .... looks like it's working all of a sudden!!!!

If anyone has a problem making reply messages try to post a new thread .... looks like it worked for me :D

[gregmonsta]

Help .... it's still broken?

[Stefan-A]

Help .... it's still broken?
Indeed it is.

[Stefan-A]

Apparently my messages were too short.

[gregmonsta]

The quick reply section seems to be the problem .... using the post reply button is working better .... ish :rolleyes:

[gregmonsta]

Wolf nipple chips.

[Stefan-A]

Wolf nipple chips.
Got any nuts?

[gregmonsta]

Got any nuts?

Lark's tongues any use? :rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

Lark's tongues any use? :rolleyes:
I don't want any of that Roman rubbish.

[gregmonsta]

I don't want any of that Roman rubbish.

Splitter!!!! :p

[Stefan-A]

Splitter!!!! :pStop that, stop that. It's far too silly.

[gregmonsta]

Ok, ok .... I'll give you 20 Sheckles for it :cool:

[Stefan-A]

Ok, ok .... I'll give you 20 Sheckles for it :cool:
No, no, no. Come on. Do it properly.

[gregmonsta]

Alright .... 10? :rolleyes:

[guidofatherof5]

Thanks for the post, Rhea. It was a very interesting story. Sound like they have more than just Boa/Python problems down there.

[jitami]

Check this out... I can't believe this would be ok!

http://bassethoundrescuechronicles.blogspot.com/2010/02/violated-again.html (http://bassethoundrescuechronicles.blogspot.com/2010/02/violated-again.html)

Can you imagine this happening to you in the privacy of your own home? I'm just appalled.

Btw, this happened on Friday and she was served with a $1400 fine yesterday for being over the municipality's 3 dog limit. She has three personal dogs and does rescue. In a previous court case she was assured that she could keep foster dogs for 6 weeks without penalty. It really seems like she's being harassed by the municipality.

Don... I'd love to hear your thoughts!

[Snakeknot]

How's about 2 sheep for the big ones? ( Sorry! I've been hanging out with my Viking friends again! )

Devon

[drache]

"give me back my mutton joint"

[gregmonsta]

Viking friends? ..... mmmmm ..... :D One Scottish red-headed womanthing will seal this deal nicely.

[Stefan-A]

Viking friends? ..... mmmmm ..... :D One Scottish red-headed womanthing will seal this deal nicely.
French okay?

[gregmonsta]

They're not as worth as much as the Scottish :rolleyes: .... if you throw in a sister or two I may consider the offer ;)

[Stefan-A]

They're not as worth as much as the Scottish :rolleyes: .... if you throw in a sister or two I may consider the offer ;)
No sister, but she's clean. ;)

[Snakeknot]

Gee, my best friend is a knockout Irish redhead who is a belly dancer AND a massage therapist. Does that count???

Devon

[gregmonsta]

Irish is definately an accepted form of currency :D

[ConcinusMan]

Gee, my best friend is a knockout Irish redhead who is a belly dancer AND a massage therapist. Does that count???

Devon

Stop it. You made me drool on my keyboard.

[ConcinusMan]

OK, what the heck is going on here? do albinos not turn blue, cloudy, anything before they shed? I found Amy's skin in her water dish today, neatly wrapped around plant roots in her water dish. I don't know how long it was there. I do know it happened sometime between Saturday afternoon and Monday morning. If I had to guess, I'd say it happened late sun night.

For the past week, she's been hiding day and night, but eating every other day if I make her come out so I wasn't too concerned yet. I noticed that today she's been out for many hours, very active, and I decided to feed her and change her water when I found the skin.

Now her behavior for the past week makes sense but I saw no other signs that she was going to shed. I was beginning to wonder, she's definitely due for a shed. Just caught me by surprise since I saw no cloudy or dull in her colors prior to shed. She just wasn't active at all, regardless of temperature, but no blue, no dull. She looks the same. I'm used to seeing this happen with very small babies in the first 2 mos or so, but 6 months, 10-11 inches???

[Snakeknot]

I have had my sand boa go blue and not shed. Which was very strange. She shed just the other day and I didn't even notice she went blue! ( Damn snakes who hide all the time! ) She's supposed to let me know so that I can set up her snakey sauna!

She's just trying to keep the mystery in your relationship! ;-)

Devon

[ConcinusMan]

Don confirmed that iowa albino radixes do not go blue. Their yellow just fades a bit and they go off food for about a week. I didn't even notice. Amy kept eating even though she was hiding a lot.

[ConcinusMan]

Where the hello does stefan find the time to make and post all those youtube videos? He's always on this forum. I mean, c'mon, he's got enough videos already. Holy moley. I'm only working part time for the past couple of months and I don't have time to post jack ship.

[Stefan-A]

Where the hello does stefan find the time to make and post all those youtube videos? He's always on this forum. I mean, c'mon, he's got enough videos already. Holy moley. I'm only working part time for the past couple of months and I don't have time to post jack ship.
There's a reason why my nationality on my driver's license is "Internet".

I've also got five more unpublished fully edited videos sitting on my hard drive and material for another two on my camera's memory card.

Editing takes just as long as you want it to take (I barely edit mine at all), video conversion software runs in the background and posting the new video takes about 2 minutes, if you don't count the work YT has to do.

[ConcinusMan]

oops.

[ConcinusMan]

I can't do a dang thing on my PC while uploading to youtube. It's not that I don't have the processing power. (2X 3.21GHZ 3GB DDR2 RAM) I don't know what it is.

I can convert say, an 2 hour AVI to DVD in 25 minutes on this thing, and that's while surfing the web or other activities. I mean, this thing is very responsive. But try to upload a video to youtube and it takes friggen ages and if I touch this machine during the upload it fails every time.

[Snakeknot]

Stop teasing me! I'm rural and on dial-up so there's a long list of things my computer won't do. U-tube? What's that??? Skyppe???? Don't you know the correct way to spell sky???? Grrrrrrr!!!!!

I keep hoping that when I get that book of mine published, I'll be so rich I'll be able to fix that!

Devon

[ConcinusMan]

Dial-up? What's that? JK, I've been using dial up since before the internet existed before using AOL from version 1.0 to 6.0. Now I get 15 Mbps download from comcast cable (takes about 18 minutes to download 700Mb) but the upload speed will just kill you. It's less than 1 Mbps. But for comparison, you're getting about 4 Kbps. KILObits.

Judging from where stefan is, his speed is probably way higher than mine, especially the upload. Probably costs a lot less too since there's tons of competition among providers. I have ONE choice for high speed internet. Costs a fortune. In about a year, I'll have another choice that is cheaper. 4G wireless. I got sick of comcast raising my rates so I complained to the better business bureau and 2 days later, they lowered my bill from $70 to $44. That's more like it.

[ConcinusMan]

Check this out. In my yard has this neat succulent that gets flowers on stalks in the fall. Once they die, they dry out and they look cool and are very durable so I got an idea. Little miniature trees for the viv:


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8660/gedc0910small.jpg
Looks like Amy is in a forest. I think it would look even better with an Inca pyramid, wouldn't it?
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5801/gedc0914large.jpg

I also got this plastic rock formation thingy that is heavy but hollow inside. I used a file to make a "door" at the bottom, and some tiny vent holes in the top back side. Amy loves to hide inside of it. I also put a hole big enough for her to get through. She pokes her head out of the top all the time as well as using it to exit. I'm so pleased she likes it.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5186/gedc0916large.jpg

No estate is complete without a flag of course!

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3514/gedc0917large.jpg

[gregmonsta]

Nice landscaping using those tree thingies ;)

[ConcinusMan]

Thanks. I was quite pleased with myself for that one. Since I took that photo, I added a live tropical plant to the corner where the water dish was, and moved the water to the right. It looks a little like a palm or bird of paradise plant. Now it's not so drab. Got some green in there.

Amy is so darn cute. Whenever I'm moving something or working in her viv, she comes over to investigate and gets in the way, or she'll wait 'till I'm done, then come over and thoroughly investigate the changes. It's so funny.

[ConcinusMan]

Wish me luck guys, it's bright and sunny, and almost 60 right now. I'm heading out to salmon creek to look for concinnus and ordinoides. I have a good feeling about today.

[guidofatherof5]

That's not fair, but best of luck.:D

[Snakeknot]

ABSOLUTELY NOT FAIR! ( Take plenty of pix. Don't forget to share even the bad ones.)

Devon

[ConcinusMan]

You know what, I'd love to take plenty of pics. However, my camera is missing. I'm sure a family member moved it or has it. I'm a bit upset about that. I'll have to go without it. Leaving now.

[ConcinusMan]

you guys aren't going to believe this. i can hardly believe it myself. it only took me about 45 minutes to get out to the creek. by the time i got there, no blue was left in the sky, it dropped down to 45 degrees and a very cold wind is blowing. i just got to the computer shop where i work and the forcast calls for snow overnight down to about 100 feet elevation 30 for the low overnight. more cold and rain or snow showers tomorrow.

needless to say i found no snakes. i did enjoy the trip though. i saw bald eagles in their nest, enormous bullfrogs, lots of native ducks, a few turtles. it was nice to get out but it's just too darn cold now. too bad i didn't have my camera. grrrr!

this trip is put on hold till it warms up again. next time i will have my camera.

[guidofatherof5]

If the frogs are out the snakes won't be far behind.

[ConcinusMan]

Well bullfrogs are out but i don't think they are on the menu. chorus frogs used to be plentiful around there and there are usually temporary pools everywhere full of tadpoles up until about june but it's been so dry there are no pools and i heard no frogs.

still, even though the wetland is very dry and the creek is low, there will still be snakes when it warms up, especially ordinoides.

i was talking to a man who pointed out the bald eagle nest to me and he said he brought his grandkids out there last august and it was very dry but the kids were walking around with hands full of concinnus so i'm still holding out hope.

[guidofatherof5]

Yes, but baby bull frogs make a good garter meal.. Not to mention the tadpoles.:D

[ConcinusMan]

Sometimes. Bullfrogs are a little different then those little tree frogs. Tree frogs always lay their eggs in temporary pools and develop quickly. With all the permanent deep ponds around there, the bullfrog tadpoles can take up to 3 years to transform into frogs. When they take that time, they are too big when they transform.

But, bullfrog tadpoles that find themselves trapped in drying, warm pools transform early so they are small. Unfortunately for the snakes, most if not all of the bullfrog tadpoles around there are in deep ponds and are very large. Too big for garter snakes.

Most of the concinnus around there depend on those spring and early summer drying pools full of trapped fish and tree frog larvae and adults. That's just not happening this year. Still, same thing happened last year and there were still plenty of concinnus around from what I was told.

As bad as I want to see some snakes soon, it wouldn't be bad if it rained for the next month, heavily, and filled up those pools. When that happens, it's a concinnusTopia!

[drache]

some mornings the interactions with a certain short person leave me wondering how we ever arrived at this level of civilization
after all - we're just a heap of specialized cells, with one set of cells trying to tell the rest how to work together; and then that set is trying to tell another boss set of cells how to run their heap
then you throw a pair of socks into that mess and it all goes to hell in a hand basket

[guidofatherof5]

some mornings the interactions with a certain short person leave me wondering how we ever arrived at this level of civilization
after all - we're just a heap of specialized cells, with one set of cells trying to tell the rest how to work together; and then that set is trying to tell another boss set of cells how to run their heap
then you throw a pair of socks into that mess and it all goes to hell in a hand basket

Poetry Rhea, pure poetry.:D

[Mommy2many]

YEAH SPRING!!!
Danbury, CT 06810
74 °
Sunny

[drache]

yeah - here too; the crocuses are out and daffodils poking through
I pruned the grape yesterday, and turned the compost, and today the tortoise has been outside all day
it feels like I'm coming out of a tunnel

[guidofatherof5]

Out girl Lucky spent some time outside this evening. Tomorrow highs in the low 40's rain, snow mix.:mad:

[ConcinusMan]

Hey Rhea, if you think the complex life forms are crazy interesting, just get some of the "lower" life forms such as an amphibian, such as a simple bullfrog.

Take bullfrog tadpoles (for example) of the same age and from the same clutch. Keep half in very warm oxygen poor water and feed them just enough to keep them alive. Take the other half and keep them in cool, oxygenated water with plenty to eat.

The disadvantaged tadpoles will turn into tiny frogs within 6 mos of hatching.

The latter group will get huge and take up to 3 years to turn into frogs.

Chorus frogs from the western US lay their eggs ONLY in stagnant, still, temporary pools. They can go from egg to frog in less than 60 days!

Amazing. Simply amazing.

ON the subject of spring, nothing but blue skies and increasing temperatures forecast for the next 7 days. upper 60's to low 70's this weekend. It's a breeding week for local wild garters for sure.

[infernalis]

burned off acres all day... Grass burned off fast.

[drache]

helped various neighbours to dig out three of my rose bushes today
somebody who lived here about thirty years ago was really into them

[jitami]

Just whining... haven't been musked by my snakes in years(?), but Sly just got me good! Cranky old man! lol He's actually worrying me a bit, so I pulled him out to give him a good look and what do I get for my concern? A few minutes of stank and a load of laundry in the wash (btw, musking isn't normal for him either. I'm really not sure what to think, but he appears fine.)

[infernalis]

Tami, 2700 posts and still "PM boots for custom title"?? what up with that.

[jitami]

Tami, 2700 posts and still "PM boots for custom title"?? what up with that.

I'm a Libra and haven't taken time to weigh all the possibilities and come up with a custom title that I can live with forever... in other words... I dunno!

[infernalis]

"Undecided" has a neat ring to it.

[ConcinusMan]

"I'd put something here but..."

Or, "insert clever title here"

[drache]

I'm a Libra and haven't taken time to weigh all the possibilities and come up with a custom title that I can live with forever... in other words... I dunno!
it's not forever
you can change it
we have the web's nicest moderators
when you can't live with it any more, you pm Jason - he'll be understanding

[Stefan-A]

I'm a Libra and haven't taken time to weigh all the possibilities and come up with a custom title that I can live with forever... in other words... I dunno!
Hello, fellow Libra. Yes, Jason will change it if you change your mind.

I would, too, if he had given me that ability. :rolleyes:

[jitami]

Ok, guys, PM sent... thanks for the prompting.... I think :)

Stefan, I've never been a huge believer in astrology, but the inability (or at least difficulty) to make quick decisions and the absolute need to weigh all options before making a decision sure fits me to a T.

[Stefan-A]

Ok, guys, PM sent... thanks for the prompting.... I think :)

Stefan, I've never been a huge believer in astrology, but the inability (or at least difficulty) to make quick decisions and the absolute need to weigh all options before making a decision sure fits me to a T.
I'm pretty sure most people would say they need to weigh all options before making a decision. :)

[jitami]

I'm pretty sure most people would say they need to weigh all options before making a decision. :)

Good point :)

[ConcinusMan]

I've been thinking about parting with Jewels. She's a gorgeous 4 foot female Pueblan milk snake but she brings me no joy. She's beautiful, she's strong and healthy but I have to ask myself why I keep her around. She's pissing me off and not giving me any joy. The only way I can describe her is that she is one of those that you can't take your eyes off of, but she's a beeeeatch. Know what I mean?

She gets "pissy" when you try to handle her, she's basically a PITA.

I buy her expensive mice at petco and she devours them.

I buy her less expensive mice elsewhere and she refuses to eat them.

She refused to eat the last meal offered and after some time I removed it.

I neglected to make sure the slide lock top was locked. Ooops!

I realized my mistake less than 30 minutes later. Jewels was no where to be found. I tore her room upside down. I moved furniture, I even took all the drawers out of the dresser and searched every possible nook and cranny that could possibly hide a 4 foot snake. NOTHING. I found nothing.

Then I heard another member of my household scream a 4 letter word. Then she mentioned something about things crashing down off the wall in her room as she was sleeping. When she said that, I went rushing in there and found jewels half way up the wall on a shelf (don't ask me how she got there, I'm still amazed, it's about 5 feet of sheer vertical wall to get to the shelf)

I captured jewels without incident (so to speak)

Anybody want a milk snake?

I know it's my fault that she got loose. I got her off craigslist, in NOV '09, nursed her back to health but she's just too high maintenance and no joy. I'm sure she'll make a great breeder. Grrr...

Just wanted to vent about that incident.

[Snakeknot]

Hah! I can relate! I just got back from the vet yesterday because my problem child and least favorite snake, my male sand boa, got himself into trouble. He's been a finicky eater. Most of the time one of my other snakes has to finish his dinner, which they do GLADLY, which is also probably why the vet thought Draco was FAT! Well "Achilles" decided to go for a walkabout the house 2 weeks ago. I only had one snap on his lid because, Hey! he's a sand boa. They don't don't climb!( Rolling eyes! ) Well, live and learn! I found him Friday. Actually the cat found him for me and, being a cat, he tossed him around a bit. He had a couple of puncture marks and some major under the skin bruising. The vet gave him a shot of antibiotics and showed me how to tube feed him medication. In addition, I gave him a bigger tank with a higher quality heater. He seems to be doing better although he DOES NOT LIKE THE VET! He practically LEAPT into my arms, begging to go home. NOW he shows his personality! But he never nipped once through the whole experience.

Before this happened I was thinking of rehoming him. Now I can't because I spent more on his vet bill than I did buying him!

On a different note, I LOVE my herp vet! Very informative without making me feel like an idiot!

Good luck with your PITA. I hope things get better for her somehow!

Devon

[drache]

I'll tell ya - snakes are a pain in the neck
I love mine
Devon - who's your herp vet?

[Snakeknot]

Dr. Randon Feinsod at Ani-Care animal hospital. :-) :-) :-)

Devon

[drache]

Dr. Randon Feinsod at Ani-Care animal hospital. :-) :-) :-)

Devon
the best . . .

[ConcinusMan]

We don't have a good herp vet in Vancouver, WA. Even if we did, laws prohibit them from treating native garters. You guys are lucky.

[jitami]

After a mention of student loans on another thread I realized that I had not shared some wonderful news with you guys...

My son worked his bum off and received an appointment to the United States Air Force Academy! It's a huge process to get through, which included a 20 person panel interview with our local congressman, but he did it! What this means is that he'll receive an education equal to that of an Ivy League School, have the opportunity to play Division One Water Polo, at virtually no cost to us or him. He will have to repay the US government with 5 years of service following graduation, which he is more than willing to do. With the economy the way it is, graduating with no student loans and a guaranteed career, even if it is with the military, is just too good of an opportunity to pass up. He's interested in Aeronautical Engineering and the Air Force Academy is known as "the little engineering school in the rockies." Unless he does something really dumb this should set him up soooo nicely for life :)

[guidofatherof5]

That is great news. I'm sure you are all very proud. Congrats.

[jitami]

Thanks Steve! We are soooo very proud :) And so excited for him! We have a friend of the family who will be a senior at the academy next year, and Shane's been out to the academy a couple of times now, and is sure it's the place for him. I agree. He should do great there! No, it's not quite the crazy college atmosphere that a lot of kids look for, but he has always been goal oriented and he'll be fine with the structure.... even if it means staying in your room and avoiding the hallway at all costs for a year <gg>

[drache]

congrats
it's great to have things fall into place like that

is the quote in your signature from Benny & Joon?

[jitami]

congrats
is the quote in your signature from Benny & Joon?

Good catch. It's my favorite movie of all time :)

Thanks for the Congrats, too :)

[guidofatherof5]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/Too_funny.jpg

[drache]

oh man - I had a really scary fall down the stairs: when I was lying there, with my head crunched into the corner under the bottom step, I was sure there was something terribly wrong, like I'd ruptured my spleen with the impact, and done something awful to my spine, and I couldn't move or breathe; well I could breathe enough to talk and move enough to whistle on my fingers, but not enough to get up on my own.
Never ever will I wear socks on those stairs again! This is not the first time, but definitely the most painful. I'm okay, but any careless movement hurts like hell and the harpies - my back is not happy at all

[guidofatherof5]

Glad you didn't sustain any serious injuries. Take it easy for awhile.

[Odie]

Roflmao :)

[infernalis]

http://www.reptard.info/laser/hamster.gif

[jitami]

Yikes, Rhea!!! So glad you're 'ok'! I know that had to be very scary!

[infernalis]

glad your OK Rhea...Relax and take it easy for a while.

[Jeff B]

Thats hilarious, thanks for sharing

[Snakeknot]

Ya wanna know something really depressing?? The older you get the longer it takes to recover from such things. I tripped and fell on the asphalt in the parking lot at work going to get my paycheck cashed 2 weeks ago and my leg STILL hurts! I think I bruised the bone. Hubby accidently kicked me on the bruise last night in bed and I think the horses in the barn heard me screech!

Rhea take it easy and in times likes this remember : ibuprofen is your friend!

Devon

[drache]

yes - ibuprofen is my dear friend
and I'm considering going back to my old signature
this morning I found bloody diarrhea on the kitchen floor, so the dog needs to go to the vet today - worried
and - last night I decided to shut down my computer in the effort to change our energy consumption, and now it won't start up (I'm on Jeff's); just makes a bunch of clicking noises and the screen stays white.
one of those days I guess

[drache]

someone sent me an email with a picture of a puppy, and a "thought of the day" that goes: "handle every stressful situation like a dog - if you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away"

[guidofatherof5]

How are you feeling this morning, Rhea?

[drache]

my ibuprofen and chinese herbs are just kicking in now, and I think I'll sort of be okay physically
the dog's got a vet appointment later today
my computer is, to put it in idiomatic german - am Arsch, meaning fried
I think I'm numb - all my photos were in there and I just found out that nothing was backed up like I thought it was

[jitami]

Ugh, Rhea... what a rough couple of days! Hopefully your photos can be pulled off the hard drive. Good luck with the dog... and get some rest! Doesn't sound like you've been able to do much of that!

[Snakers]

hope you feel better soon

[ConcinusMan]

Wait a minute, infernalis and Jeff can't possibly be referring to rhea's fall. Gotta be the "you are here" post.

[drache]

I am here now - getting to sneak in some computer time

anybody see this?
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=54663

[Stefan-A]

Nice to see that they're gentle with it.

[guidofatherof5]

It's a real shame it was killed.:mad:

[ConcinusMan]

Nature's little lawnmowers and fertilizers: (photo taken a couple of weeks ago in Vancouver, WA central park) Fort Vancouver High School and Clark College in the background. The Canadian geese have been getting quite a bit of attention lately. Sure is tempting to snag one for the dinner table but that would be highly illegal.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3974/gedc0995.jpg

[drache]

It's a real shame it was killed.:mad:
the article does not actually state that this particular snake was killed
there's just a bunch of comments by people who start chatting about large rattlers that got killed
I do wonder what they did with this one
if they'd been the kind of people who kill them, they'd probably just shot it and taken the photos afterwards, so I'm hopeful for the snake

[ConcinusMan]

Hey everyone, take a look at this garter snake caught near seattle. I cannot think of any species it could possibly be other than ordinoides but regardless of species take a look at those stripes. AWESOME! (it's easier to download it and/or zoom in.)

http://www.seattlepestanimalcontrol.com/images/collinsnake.jpg

It's on this website: http://www.seattlepestanimalcontrol.com/snake.htm

[ConcinusMan]

Hey guys I emailed the guy in the photo and that's his son. He says the snake was caught (3 of them) in Poulsbo, WA just north of Bremerton. That's dang near an island in the Puget sound. It's only connected to the mainland far to the south by a thread.

He's a wildlife removal guy and he says the snakes were living in a rock wall and the woman living there has a phobia and wanted them gone. I'm thinking, where there's 3 there's more but anyway, interesting. Right smack dab in the middle of puget sound out on a peninsula surrounded by sea water. it doesn't look like a puget garter to me so I thought it might be an ordinoides but that would be one awesome ordinioides if it is. Dark red dorsal stripe and yellow(?) lateral stripes? Awesome!

He says his brother has better photos and said he would see about sending them to me.

[Stefan-A]

Interesting dorsal stripe on that one. If it's not a T. elegans, it almost has to be T. ordinoides.

Another striped snake of that state would be Masticophis taeniatus. But it doesn't look like one of those.

[ConcinusMan]

For some reason it just never ocurred to me that it could be elegans because of the location. I really don't have a good resource for range maps. Is there a good one online somewhere?

I know elegans is here in WA and I'm pretty sure I used to find them here but I just never do anymore. At least not in my county. I don't think I've ever seen one that had the lateral stripes a different color than the dorsal either. Every one I have found in the past in western oregon was always been a handsome black and yellow 3 stripe snake.

[jitami]

Elegans was my first thought when I saw the pic, too, but I'm wondering if there are ribbons in WA? Did some searching... this is the only page I found that diferentiates between T. e. elegans & T. e. vagrans and it does seem e. elegans are found in Washington: http://www.natureserve.org/explorer/servlet/NatureServe?loadTemplate=tabular_report.wmt&paging=home&save=all&sourceTemplate=reviewMiddle.wmt (link didn't work... search for Thamnophis... or here's the copy & pasted version:

2.102240
Thamnophis elegans (javascript:launch_detailed_report('species','RptC omprehensive.wmt','102240'))
Terrestrial Gartersnake
G5




CAN: AB, BC, SK USA: AZ, CA, CO, ID, MT, NE, NM, NN, NV, OK, OR, SD, UT, WA, WY
http://www.natureserve.org/explorer/images/camera_sm.gif (javascript:launch_detailed_report('species','RptI mages.wmt','102240'))


2.102647
Thamnophis elegans vagrans (javascript:launch_detailed_report('species','RptC omprehensive.wmt','102647'))
Wandering Gartersnake http://www.natureserve.org/explorer/images/icons/super7.gif (http://www.natureserve.org/explorer/servlet/NatureServe?loadTemplate=tabular_report.wmt&paging=home&save=all&sourceTemplate=reviewMiddle.wmt#footnotes)
G5T5




CAN: SK USA: AZ, NN, OK, WY http://www.natureserve.org/explorer/images/icons/super4.gif (http://www.natureserve.org/explorer/servlet/NatureServe?loadTemplate=tabular_report.wmt&paging=home&save=all&sourceTemplate=reviewMiddle.wmt#footnotes)

I'm still totally convinced, because it also places them in Idaho, Utah, Montana, and South Dakota? That's a huge range for my fave garter, but still doesn't seem right. Oregon and Washington I'll buy, but Nebraska???

[Stefan-A]

No ribbons in Washington.

[drache]

I really don't have a good resource for range maps. Is there a good one online somewhere?
this is the one I use - not sure how current it is
http://www.gartersnake.de/snakefinder/snakefinder.html

[ssssnakeluvr]

it's an ordinoides...have seen photos of them with stripes like that.

[ConcinusMan]

this is the one I use - not sure how current it is
http://www.gartersnake.de/snakefinder/snakefinder.html


Thanks, that's better than nothing. Concinnus in the LA area? I dont think so. The extent of their southernmost range barely, if at all, makes it into northern CA. Northwest herpetologists would argue, and have been arguing for years, that true concinnus is only in NW oregon and SW WA only as far north as longview, wa and as far south as eugene, OR.

Perhaps this is a case of CA red-sides or other sirtalis being mistaken for concinnus. Still, better map than nothing. It does show elegans as being in my area but I haven't found one since the early 80's unless I go south into oregon. Same goes for ringneck snakes too. They're all gone from clark county, wa as far as we know. Thanks for the link. very helpful.

And yes Don, I think it's a northwestern too. But a really awesome one!

[ssssnakeluvr]

very awesome!!! would like to get my hands on some!!! :cool:

[Stefan-A]

Whatever their range was when the map was made, it's smaller now.

[ConcinusMan]

No doubt. Another thing that range maps do not show is suitable habitat. Obviously if there's none, you're not going to find them, even inside their range. The So. CA border for example, is part of elegans range. you won't find them there. There's no suitable habitat left. Concinnus are a bit lucky where this is concerned. Plenty of their habitat does not get developed and never will, so they can be found even in heavily urbanized areas, in pockets of suitable habitat. Where I found the latest wild concinnus, it is highly urbanized all around but the land where they were found is not suitable for development. Often, this includes creeks and waterways, providing corridors of suitable habitat connecting various populations.

[jitami]

I'm still NOT totally convinced, because it also places them in Idaho, Utah, Montana, and South Dakota? That's a huge range for my fave garter, but still doesn't seem right. Oregon and Washington I'll buy, but Nebraska???

Funny how missing one tiny word changes the meaning of an entire sentence... sigh...