Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[Lulu Bennett]

Rhea, he is stunning lol.
Her is a few pics of my new addition...
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v359/230/75/561816270/n561816270_1821223_2988.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v359/230/75/561816270/n561816270_1821225_3744.jpg

He ate 2 pinkies yesterday. He is a greedy little bugger lol. i love him and can't wait for him to grow hehehe

[Garter_Gertie]

Lulu, I'm SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!! I think I love my Hoggies more than my garters. :eek:

Is he a green phase, or a normal? He looks greenish...

What have you named him? How old is he?

CONGRATULATIONS! I think you're going to have so much fun!

He's very beautiful!

[Lulu Bennett]

He is a brown colour.
looks sooo cool.
He is called Borris :D

[Lulu Bennett]

I made post 5000 :D:D:D:D:D

[Garter_Gertie]

Boris is fabulous, so fat! He is ssssoooo pretty.

Don't you love the soft, velvety feel of a Hoggy? They feel a lot like catapillars.


Hehehehehe! I'm just tickled for you. I know you're going love and have so much fun with Boris!

[Lulu Bennett]

He is very smooth, i love it.
He is a bit tubby but he looks good with it lol. I a so very happy with him. i can't help but wait for the first bite off him though :(

[Garter_Gertie]

No, no! Don't get me wrong! His weight's pefect. They're tubby snakes compared to garters. He looks perfect - no way over weight.

Hoggies don't usually bite. I don't know what's been recommended to you but I was told to feed my in the deli cup he came in. And the thing to do is put the snake in first, THEN the pinkie. Other way around and your Hoggy could think your hand's food.

That's about the only time a Hoggy will bite. Biting's not really in their mode of defense. They strike with a closed mouth. CB's don't do this, sadly, but in the wild Hoggies will - if the striking doesn't scare off whatever - will roll over and play dead.

In general, and each snake is an individual, Hoggies rank as good as garter for docile behavior. They will hiss and whine and complain, that's for sure!

[Lulu Bennett]

oh i know they are docile and that they will firstly dry strike and play dead but i think 3 out of the 6 snakes i have had have bitten me as a result of a feeding accident.
I have got a big pair of tongues to dangle the pinkie with so that should be good enough to stop him from biting me lol.

[Garter_Gertie]

I've not yet worried about it. I figure if it's going to happen, it will. I will tell you I wash my hands a BILLION times more than before I had a Hoggy! LOL!!! Just in case Niizh should think dog/cat/garter/my food smells good!

[drache]

congrats, Lu (Ms 5000)
glad you got a hognose - I love mine
yes - they tend to be a bit chunky compared to garters, and their faces are so cute

[GartersRock]

What a cute hoggy!!! :D

[Lulu Bennett]

congrats, Lu (Ms 5000)
glad you got a hognose - I love mine
yes - they tend to be a bit chunky compared to garters, and their faces are so cute

Thank you Rhea, I think that 5000 post thing past most people. i can't believe a thread i started in bordom with Elliot has become as popular as this lol. I am soo proud :D
Oh i know they are supposed to be this way but it does ammuse me lol. this is why i say i can't wait for him to grow full size but untill he does i will enjoy every bit of him lol :D


What a cute hoggy!!! :D

This is a cute hoggy lol
Western Hognose (Heterodon nasicus)
They are sand dwellers so that is the reason for the lil upturned nose. Such an addorable look.

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v359/230/75/561816270/n561816270_1821225_3744.jpg

[drache]

Rhea!!! I love him!!! I want to find a spotted king like this one:

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/800736.jpg

I don't even know where I got that pic... but man I loooove that snake!!!
you know, Sean got a whole bunch of the high whites and some Calis with crazy patterns
I tried copying this pic, so I could send it to him, but it didn't work
I'll have to go there tomorrow and see

[Loren]

Well, since we're posting pics of our new snakes...

Western Coachwhip
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/coachwhip.jpg

Striped Cal King (CB)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/striped_cal.JPG

San Diego Gopher Snake (CB)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/san_diego_gopher.JPG

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow all of those are AMAZING!!!!!!!:eek:

[dashnu]

Lulu now has two critters I want. Puff and Boris will soon be mine..... mughahahahahahahahha

[Lulu Bennett]

I would like to see you try and get them :D
You would have to get through me first...oh yeah and you would have to come over the pond to get them hahaha

[Snake lover 3-25]

OMG!!!!! i just caught up on4 pgs of unread threads!!!!!! WOOT!!!!! took me 2 classes and 3 hrs at home to do it...... but it's DONE!!!!!:D:D:eek::eek:

[Garter_Gertie]

Lu, any more pics o'Boris? I'm in love with that guy! How's he coming along? How long have you had him? (Is this redundant? You just got him, didn't you?) NEVER MIND!

I've got Niizh' tank right here by me. He's now starting to get to the point where he'll come out and stare me down. Of course, I have to stop whatever I'm doing and stare back. Such small, bright, sweet eyes!!!

Okay. I'll quit gushing about Hoggies... For awhile enkneeweigh.

[reptile3]

rhea~ What a gorgeous snake, what kind is it? Love the name Rorschach!!!

[reptile3]

He is a brown colour.
looks sooo cool.
He is called Borris :D

Very nice Lulu, I like the name Borris!!:D

[drache]

rhea~ What a gorgeous snake, what kind is it? Love the name Rorschach!!!

Rorschach is a high white california kingsnake and he's settling in nicely
Lori - Sean will keep his eyes open for you
the clutch Rorschach came from had some with really crazy patterns and apparently they came from a pair of totally normal cali kings

[reptileparadise]

Ah damn, just one more week before we're heading home again....

Its so weird. This weekend will be around 35 celcius and spring just started. Bearded dragons are emerging, waterdragons are hatching, snakes are comming out everywhere and its spring, spring spring!
Next weekend we'll be heading home again...10 degrees celcius, time to start brumating the snakes, resting the beardie at home and autumn...

Sh*t, I'm going to miss this country...But I would love to see my own creepy crawlies again!

[Lori P]

I know it'll be hard to end such a great vacation... but then, it's always good to be home again, too. :-)

[Lori P]

Holy pinky parts!! I was just dumping some minnows back into their tank, and I'd had a couple of pinkies at the bottom of the bowl. One little tiny foot fell into the fish tank, and the minnows DEVOURED it!! So I pinched off some more little tiny feets and legs and tails and the minnows ate them all in a frenzy. LOL How's that for gut loading the fish?!!

[Garter_Gertie]

Thanks! I'll now feed the guppies in P & J's 'swimming pool' pinkie parts prior to tossing them. Food chain!

[Stefan-A]

Okay, this is the first time a fishmonger knocks on my door. Didn't have anything that I could use as garter food, though.

[Zephyr]

Okay, this is the first time a fishmonger knocks on my door. Didn't have anything that I could use as garter food, though.Fishmonger. lol
No tilapia, salmon, or trout Stefan?

[Stefan-A]

Fishmonger. lol
No tilapia, salmon, or trout Stefan?
Yeah, but no whole fish.

[Loren]

LOL How's that for gut loading the fish?!!

Actually a good idea for snakes that wont take rodents. Makes fish into the perfect meal - nutritious, but with a bit more sustanance to it.
Seems like you'd probably runout out of pinky feet before it really did a lot of good though. :)

holy pinky parts?- Ha.

[Zephyr]

Um... I just ate a whole jar of honey.
Could this be problematic?

[Garter_Gertie]

Yeah. If you have allergies.
Could wake up tomorrow feeling like a truck hit you and/or you'd three six packs o'beer.

[Lori P]

You ate a WHOLE JAR of honey??? What the heck have you been smoking?? LOLOL Umm... well, you are now either very healthy and full of all kinds of nutrients and natural antibiotics... or your head's gonna swell and pop off. Take some Benedryl.

[Lori P]

Oh, hey, Gertie, about feeding your guppies pinky parts-- they may or may not take them-- the minnows got more today and went ape ****, but Jeffy the gold fish won't touch them.

[Zephyr]

"I'm getting better! I feel fine! I think I'll go for a walk! I feel happy~! I feel happy-" *Dead.* lol

[Lori P]

Did you have anything with the honey, at least?

[Loren]

Um... I just ate a whole jar of honey.
Could this be problematic?
dang that sounds good.
I've been eating ice cream right out of a 5 qt bucket every night till my stomach starts turning. That is problematic- but only for a few minutes. :)

[Zephyr]

Did you have anything with the honey, at least?
Um...
Nope.
lol

[Garter_Gertie]

See, Zephy? I told you about that honey. Lori confirmed it. About the allergies and all.

Hope you got Benedryl... And or Excedrin...

[Lori P]

dang that sounds good.
I've been eating ice cream right out of a 5 qt bucket every night till my stomach starts turning. That is problematic- but only for a few minutes. :)

Ok... I'll admit to it... for me, it's been powdered sugar donuts every night. The small kind that come in a bag. I'm addicted. In fact I don't have any tonite and I'm already craving them. LOL So much for trying to loose weight...

[Loren]

thats it- I'm going to the store.

[Loren]

I love to eat, but havent been doing it often enough apparently. I am losing wieght.

[Lori P]

I hate you. You need some? I'll send you some. LOL

Darn it... now I'm really thinking of going to the store, too. I MUST resist the donuts!!!

[Loren]

Quite honestly Lori, I am about 15-20 pounds under my prefered weight right now (138 last night). I need to start eating better and then lift some weights/do sit ups... so it all comes as muscle, then I would look great :)
In my opinion anyhow.
I weighed near 160 2 years ago.

[Zephyr]

<<< Skin and bones. lol

[Lori P]

So you need to bulk up a bit... protien, not sugar and fat. Go forth and eat meat!! Leave the ice cream, get a steak!!

[Loren]

how about starting out with a bunch of steak, with ice cream for desert?

now to figure out lunch and dinner...

[Lori P]

ROFL!!! That's the spirit Loren! :-)

I'm off to work... we get to castrate a llama today!!! I can't wait!!!!

[drache]

ROFL!!! That's the spirit Loren! :-)

I'm off to work... we get to castrate a llama today!!! I can't wait!!!!
your day sounds more fun than mine, Lori

[Loren]

your day sounds like more fun than the llama's too. :)

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol i'm trying to get my sis's bf to bulk up lol according to the wii fit he is underweight:D i'm normal:D

[jitami]

Guys I am so far behind on posts it isn't even funny... both boys had water polo tournaments this weekend, in two different cities again... sigh... my house looks like a tornado hit it and I'm making myself little deals... 1/2 of cleaning then 1/2 hour of snaky forum... lol... yeah...think my time is about up... lol...

[Snake lover 3-25]

i know me too!!!! i go away for 2 days and come back with 600 posts!!!!:eek:

[Loren]

Yep.
I dont have nearly enough time to read all the threads so I just pick anywhere from 3-6 or so to keep up on at a time. So, sorry if I miss some of your threads, I just only have so much time. :)

[drache]

Yep.
I dont have nearly enough time to read all the threads so I just pick anywhere from 3-6 or so to keep up on at a time. So, sorry if I miss some of your threads, I just only have so much time. :)
that's where I'm at too

[reptileparadise]

Yeah!
We just saw a wild koala with a joey on its back...so cool!
Didn't think we would find one after hearing stories of locals who have never seen on in their life!
Me happy...me taken 100 shots of the poor buggers :D

[Lori P]

Oh you HAVE to show us pics!!!!

[count dewclaw]

Yes, yes, pics of a koala please!!! :D

[reptileparadise]

Sorry about the crappy pics guys...Thats what you get when they're wild...

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/Australie/koalabewerkt.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/Australie/koalabewerkt2.jpg

[count dewclaw]

Thanks for sharing! The pics aren't that bad, I know how it is trying to photograph wild animals.

[reptileparadise]

yeah, defenitly....
It sucks when they are in a dense tree, almost 20 meters up...

[jitami]

How very cool!!! As LeAnn said, thank you for sharing!

[Lori P]

OH those koalas are darling!! Thanks for sharing pics!!

Here are llama pics from the other day if anyone is interested... I just love llamas!!!

Meeting Magic... his face says it all... Oh, no, I KNOW what you all are up to! (That's his owner holding him)

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/llama_1.jpg

This is your llama on drugs...

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/llama_2.jpg

That's my boss, the vet, on the left side-- sawing down fighting teeth [this llama was attacking the others and killed one :-( ]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/llama_5.jpg

And the other end! That takes care of the aggression problem!!!

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/llama_3.jpg

Too fun. :D

[reptile3]

Wow Lori, very interesting.... llamas are cool!! Why was the llama aggressive?




OH those koalas are darling!! Thanks for sharing pics!!

Here are llama pics from the other day if anyone is interested... I just love llamas!!!

Meeting Magic... his face says it all... Oh, no, I KNOW what you all are up to! (That's his owner holding him)

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/llama_1.jpg

This is your llama on drugs...

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/llama_2.jpg

That's my boss, the vet, on the left side-- sawing down fighting teeth [this llama was attacking the others and killed one :-( ]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/llama_5.jpg

And the other end! That takes care of the aggression problem!!!

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/llama_3.jpg

Too fun. :D

[reptile3]

Not crappy pics, wow that is so awesome!! Thanks for sharing:)



Sorry about the crappy pics guys...Thats what you get when they're wild...

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/Australie/koalabewerkt.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/Australie/koalabewerkt2.jpg

[reptile3]

Guess what???? It's raining here in Georgia!!! WOW!!!
We needed this rain, it hadn't rained since Aug. We are in a very bad drought too, from last year. I bet my flowers are sooo happy!!!:D

[olive oil]

Guess what? We are getting some rain here in Kentucky also. We've been in bad shape to. Most of my flowers are gone already. Was wanting to do some camping this weekend but we have been on a burn ban for a few weeks now. No fun without the fire.
Hope it's brought up some nightcrawlers!!

[Stefan-A]

Look at me, I'm posting while intoxicated. :p

[Charlet_2007]

Guess what? We are getting some rain here in Kentucky also. We've been in bad shape to. Most of my flowers are gone already. Was wanting to do some camping this weekend but we have been on a burn ban for a few weeks now. No fun without the fire.
Hope it's brought up some nightcrawlers!!
we got rain yesterday all day it was nice..

[GartersRock]

Lol Stefan!!!! :p

[drache]

cool - not that obvious - what drug?
or is it one of those don't ask don't tell things?

[jitami]

LOL Stefan... you do seem a little more chipper :)

[Zephyr]

Look at me, I'm posting while intoxicated. :p
The smiley face makes me think the drugs are eating at your brain.

[Garter_Gertie]

This is a joke, right?

YOU drink? YOU give up control?

Yeah. Rite.

Hopefully you'll be a jolly drunk and tell us jokes????????????



Look at me, I'm posting while intoxicated. :p

[Stefan-A]

cool - not that obvious - what drug?
or is it one of those don't ask don't tell things?
Alcohol and nicotine.


This is a joke, right?
Wasn't.


YOU drink? YOU give up control?

Yeah. Rite.
Depends on what you mean by giving up control. As I see it, it requires more control.


Hopefully you'll be a jolly drunk and tell us jokes????????????
Nope.


The smiley face makes me think the drugs are eating at your brain.
It was a fake smiley.

[GartersRock]

:p LOL!! He's back to normal.

[Stefan-A]

You can tell the difference?

[Lulu Bennett]

:p LOL!! He's back to normal.
you didn'y yjink he would last like that did you :D hahaha

[reptileparadise]

hahaha...
I always try to avoid computers when I'm under influence of something :D Just in case I'm still able to start MSN or a forum up...

[Zephyr]

hahaha...
I always try to avoid computers when I'm under influence of something :D Just in case I'm still able to start MSN or a forum up...
"hi evry1 i have some snkes ove there any1 want em?"

[Snake lover 3-25]

:confused:????

[bsol]

I know you guys might not believe this yet, but yahoo or some other email service is actually creating a drunk email wall. Apparently its activated between certain hours of the night/day and it puts you through a few word tests before you can email... its supposed to be able to identify whether or not your drunk or under the influence of anything. Crazy huh?!?!

[Lori P]

This is so cute... I have a little rescued kitten here at work with me today, and he is going NUTS playing with my cursor-- lol. This is off my cell phone so not very good.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Bernie_cursor.jpg

:)

[Snake lover 3-25]

awwwww are you going to keep her??? she's SOOOO cute:D

[Lori P]

He needs to find a home... we already have 2 office cats here and the vets aren't even thrilled with them. He won't survive at my house, the dogs will hurt a kitten, and I've got close to 30 feral cats on the farm (all fixed of course) that could hurt him. And of course, there are so many kittens out there that finding a home is difficult. So we'll just keep plugging on finding a home and hopefully the vets will eventually get used to him...

[Snake lover 3-25]

how could a vet not like a few cats at work???

[Lori P]

They don't want the mess in the office. They hate the litter box. They don't want cat hair on everything. They want this to stay an office, not a humane society. Silly men.

[ssssnakeluvr]

They don't want the mess in the office. They hate the litter box. They don't want cat hair on everything. They want this to stay an office, not a humane society. Silly men.
Hey now.....I have 4 cats!!!!!!! :eek::cool:

[Lori P]

LOL Sorry. I was referring to my two bosses. Some days I refer to them in different terms, but, those terms aren't appropriate here... LOL

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol :D

[jitami]

They don't want the mess in the office. They hate the litter box. They don't want cat hair on everything. They want this to stay an office, not a humane society. Silly men.

I think most vet offices have at least a couple cats, but coming from the owner of a dog who would love nothing more than to eat them it's really a pain to have cats lounging around who have absolutely no fear of dogs... don't know what the solution is... Lori, that kitten is adorable and I know there are never enough homes... And yes, I know my dog is the one with the problem and yes, I keep control of her... but it's so hard when there's a cat lounging on every surface :(

[ssssnakeluvr]

LOL Sorry. I was referring to my two bosses. Some days I refer to them in different terms, but, those terms aren't appropriate here... LOL
LOL!!!! have had the same problem myself with "bosses" I have a real good boss now..

[reptile3]

Hey now.....I have 4 cats!!!!!!! :eek::cool:

Really?? That is awesome. I have 2 cats, I would have had 3. My first cat ran away! When I got the second cat... she was a siamese,didn't like any other cats. Oh well.. she was beautiful too!

My Hubby doesn't like any of my cats, nor my reptiles.

[reptile3]

I believe that Brownie, the dekayi shed last night. YAHOOO!!! Now Mikey needs to...
I cut up another pinkie, along with worms. Someone ate some.

Kyle, the red sided, is always out & about... he is pretty good with me, except... peeing on me. Is peeing on me, the same as muskying?

[Zephyr]

I believe that Brownie, the dekayi shed last night. YAHOOO!!! Now Mikey needs to...
I cut up another pinkie, along with worms. Someone ate some.

Kyle, the red sided, is always out & about... he is pretty good with me, except... peeing on me. Is peeing on me, the same as muskying?

If it smells bad, it's musk.
He always was a little fire cracker. The more you handle him, the more he'll calm down.

[Garter_Gertie]

In my opinion, musk doesn't smell all that bad. Kind'a smells good. But then I like skunk odor, too. (shrugs shoulders)

[reptile3]

In my opinion, musk doesn't smell all that bad. Kind'a smells good. But then I like skunk odor, too. (shrugs shoulders)

It smells alittle weird to me, but it's ok! I can handle bad smells!! LOL Maybe cause I could never smell before.. HA HA I had blockage so bad, till a year ago, had sinus surgery done! I can SMELL from far far away!! LOL

[Garter_Gertie]

There is NO WAY I'm gonna let them Rooter-Roter my sinuses out, like my doc wants.

FORGET IT! The surgeon could SNEEZE and I'd end up a vegetable.

Better to not be able to breathe and get sinus infections.

Furshure.

[drache]

somehow we got on the subject of cannibalism and related subjects at dinner and Jeff wanted to know whether anybody here's ever eaten snake and if so whether it tastes like eel

[Garter_Gertie]

I've not had snake. Don't think I'm gonna try it.

[Stefan-A]

Sorry, no. Not yet anyway. It's on my list, though.

[drache]

Sorry, no. Not yet anyway. It's on my list, though.
and I was counting on you - and James, but he's not around

[reptile3]

somehow we got on the subject of cannibalism and related subjects at dinner and Jeff wanted to know whether anybody here's ever eaten snake and if so whether it tastes like eel

Nope never had it...

[Stefan-A]

I guess I could get a corn cheap..

[Snake lover 3-25]

ewwww no stefan!!!!! don't do it!!!!!!

[drache]

I guess I could get a corn cheap..
and how would you prepare it?
traditional finnish recipe or something exotic?

[drache]

oh man
I just plowed through Stefan's garters thread and realized I put some of my babies in a critter keeper a couple of days ago
so I went and looked and one was missing - damn!
turned up on the floor, chewed up and dead - damn!
and it was the pretty green one too - damn!

it's not been a good day
the reason I even have the time to hang out here is because I'm sick with a flu thing and all I can really do is moan and sweat, along with coughing and blowing my nose

poor baby - I feel so guilty
cats . . .

[Zephyr]

oh man
I just plowed through Stefan's garters thread and realized I put some of my babies in a critter keeper a couple of days ago
so I went and looked and one was missing - damn!
turned up on the floor, chewed up and dead - damn!
and it was the pretty green one too - damn!

it's not been a good day
the reason I even have the time to hang out here is because I'm sick with a flu thing and all I can really do is moan and sweat, along with coughing and blowing my nose

poor baby - I feel so guilty
cats . . .Sowwy Rhea. I hope you feel better.
I'm just biding my time til the holidays over here: Plenty of time to relax and just sit without feeling as if I have to do stuff. XD
Drink lots of orange juice, and get better soon! :)

[drache]

yeah
the cold will pass
the baby's gone gone - gotta let go
really don't have the energy to beat myself up right now
I'm gonna have a hot bath and sweat some more
back later

[Loren]

Its ok Rhea, those things happen, especially when you arent feeling well. Just get better. :)

[Lori P]

I'm so sorry Rhea. Stuff happens. Hope you feel better soon... I've had a cold type thing for going on 2 weeks now and I'm just so tired all the time. I used to bounce out of these things much quicker!

[Lori P]

Guys, I had to share this-- you know the little kitten, Bernie, I posted about yesterday? So he's got a really wicked upper respitory and eye infection, and we're having a hard time clearing it up. He's not been eating well, loosing weight, and I've been trying anything to encourage him; I had him back at the vet today and we switched his antiobiotics again, and I bought some of that A/D canned food which is used to entice anything to eat... he still wouldn't go for it.

So this evening, when my cat Souri was begging for a mouse, it occured to me... wonder if he'd eat a pinky?? Well, omg, did he eat a pinky!!!! He ate 6-- he went NUTS for them. How cool is that? He's not only eaten but gotten something as all-natural and healthy as it comes into his system!!!! I can't wait to tell the vet tomorrow-- you know it would never occur to them to tell someone to offer a pinky to a kitten. lol See, my snake hobby has helped another little creature get on the road to recovery!!! :-)

[reptile3]

yeah
the cold will pass
the baby's gone gone - gotta let go
really don't have the energy to beat myself up right now
I'm gonna have a hot bath and sweat some more
back later


I am sorry to hear about your snake.... & I hope you start to feel better soon!!
Last year around this time, I didn't go to the docs, buy the time in Nov I went... I was almost admitted to the hospital for pneumonia. I had really bad bronchitis, for 5 months. I just got my flu shot last week... PRAYING hard not to get sick!!!

{{hugs}} get better!!

[Stefan-A]

and how would you prepare it?
traditional finnish recipe or something exotic?
I don't think there is a traditional Finnish recipe for snake. Teriyaki, maybe?


Sorry about your snake, by the way.

[drache]

thanks all
didn't know teriyaki was traditional in finnland, but it's probably good with any protein
the traditional finnish thing I want most right now though is a sauna
short of that I've been hot bathing, bundling up, and creating mountains of sweat soaked laundry
I do think it's working - will know more tomorrow

still a bit upset about the baby
hadn't planned to let Sammy have another litter, but now part of me wants to - just because of that one baby - weird, huh?
I'll probably talk myself out of it again

[Stefan-A]

didn't know teriyaki was traditional in finnland,
It's not.:D

[drache]

It's not.:D
didn't think so
what about a nice dill sauce?
would that be more finnish?

[Sid]

Hope you recoup quickly, Rhea and sorry to hear about the loss.:(

[jitami]

Rhea, hope you feel better soon! So sorry about the baby :(

Lori, glad the kitten got something in his stomach! I don't know if I would have ever thought of offering him pinkies! Good job!!!

[Stefan-A]

didn't think so
what about a nice dill sauce?
would that be more finnish?
Finnish quisine is practically indistinguishable from Swedish, so I wouldn't know. :D

It just seems like the kind of meat that would need something like teriyaki, or some form of chili sauce. Something a bit stronger.

[Snake lover 3-25]

sorry to hear about your snake:(

hope you feel better:)

gald to hear the kitten ate:D hope he gets well soon:D

[drache]

yeah
congrats to the kitten - real food
myself - not well, but much better

have you seen the dolphins blowing bubbles?
YouTube - Dolphins Blow Bubble Rings (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=5us-v4bntP8&feature=related)
YouTube - Dolphin play bubble rings (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=TMCf7SNUb-Q)

[Stefan-A]

Yay, 10,001 videos viewed on YouTube. :D

[Zephyr]

STORY TIME.
So after school today I found my friend Gigi and found that she needed a ride home. So we took'er home. Her house is on the edge (part of, really) a forest that borders protected land (separated from the protected stuff by a river.) So we were driving to her house and I looked out the window when we were getting near to an area where there are normal snakes. 'Lo and behold, I saw something, BIG AND BLACK, laying out in the sun. I demanded my mother stop the car, and before she had a chance to I hopped out and ran after the snake.
In my excitement I mis-identified it as a black rat snake, but it was only because... The species has never been recorded in our area!
So, after a bit of a fighting and whatnot, I got ahold of this beautiful 4.5 foot blue racer, my first one and possibly biggest snake.
Pics: (All the while Gigi's mom was standing back looking horrified. lol)
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6683/ayqnnsuqh6sgoexpm37ycyucj0.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8761/as1shjwz4fncibnww3fw9ykid1.jpg
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4678/rk1w1m8nlyw4uxsohub6qnsse4.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Very nice find. :) Gonna get me one of those some day.

[jitami]

Very nice! Congrats on such a great find!

[Sid]

Nice Racer, Kyle. Great find.

[Zephyr]

Nice Racer, Kyle. Great find.
Notice how I'm holding it.
Learned that from a certain someone. :)

[Lori P]

Kyle, first of all, you look very handsome in your school attire! :-)

And second, oh, what a gorgeous snake, look at that blue!!!!! Great find!!!!!!!

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow what a great find!!!!!:eek::D

[drache]

congrats Kyle
that is a nice looking snake
and a fun little story

[Loren]

Awesome snake Kyle. Definitely one of the biggest racers I have seen. I think my western yellow bellied is about 3 feet or more now.

[GartersRock]

Very nice!! Love it! I think my biggest catch was a 7 foot TX rat as big around as a coke can. :D And mean as h*ll!

And it lives in my room. :D

[Loren]

Very nice!! Love it! I think my biggest catch was a 7 foot TX rat as big around as a coke can. :D And mean as h*ll!

And it lives in my room. :D

coool !

My biggest wild find was my 5'+ gopher snake. found her about 5 years ago. She likes to draw blood too. And she lives in my reptile room. :D

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol my biggest find was meadow when she was 29ish" lol now she's 31" :D

Edit: o wait maybe it was the milk i found a few years back... but never got a measurement so it doesn't really count:D

[drache]

guys
I got Drache back from the vet today - post-surgery
one large and one gigantic open gaping wound, both on the left side of his head (pics tomorrow - it's been a long day)
both of these lesions had deep pockets of infection and I am now in charge of keeping them open, deep cleaning them and pumping them full of nolvasan every other day, until they start clearing up from the inside out - really not something I'm looking forward to with anything other than grim determination to pull this through whether he likes it or not
he looks really grotesque right now
we met up with the vet at the Hamburg Pa reptile show, where I also got to meet Shannon - and I got one of her beautiful Florida blues in exchange for my last ribbon baby

[Lori P]

Oh man... poor Drache. What an ordeal. Good luck, Nurse Rhea!!!

[Garter_Gertie]

Oh, Rhea, that is sad. But so glad you caught it in time. Cool you got to meet Shannon! What fun!

[drache]

ugghh
I just administered to Drache and it was no fun for either of us
the pics I took before I started are also a bit too much - pm me if you're interested
next time I'll try to find someone to take pics during because that at least would be instructive in addition to gory
for those of you as yet unfamiliar with snake pus, it's not at all like the human variety; it's more solid, a bit like firm curd, so it's not like one can squeeze it out - it needs to be dug out
"it" being right on the poor snake's head, the digging puts pressure on his throat and salivary gland, causing him to make scary croaking sounds
and all this before breakfast

[Garter_Gertie]

Lords, woman. You're a saint. Hard on you but good for Drache. Poor thing. Both of you!

[jitami]

Oh Rhea... good luck with poor Drache! Does not sound like fun at all... I'm a pretty tough cookie when it comes to stuff like that and your description alone has my stomach turning... keep us updated... I'll be thinking of you and Drache!

[Lori P]

Yeah... I'm passing on the pics myself right now... lol!! Rhea, what causes him to get these abcesses/infections whatever?? Is it like an immune thing with him?

[drache]

as far as I can tell it's the same abscess rearing it's ugly head again and again, because it needed the actual opening up and cleaning out, which is what my neighbourhood vet - the one who's on maternity leave - was probably trying to avoid
the vet we lost to Pennsylvania is just way more experienced
in fact I just found out that he treats the herps of the Bronx Zoo - Sean was loading up a few from the zoo to bring to Pennsylvania
makes me feel good to have that connection, but without a car it's a bit tough
funny thing about the pics I took . . .
after I had doctored him yesterday, I felt pretty good about it
I'd gotten to the fresh blood like the vet said I should and it looked pretty hopeful
then I loaded the pics (macro close-ups) onto the computer and was totally grossed out
they don't look like he can survive this thing
it's good thing I know better, or it really would have gotten me down after all this sleep deprivation

[adamanteus]

It's great to be back amongst you guys, I've really enjoyed this evening (trying to catch up), but now I must go to bed (it's gone midnight)..... catch you all tomorrow!:D

[ssssnakeluvr]

It's great to be back amongst you guys, I've really enjoyed this evening (trying to catch up), but now I must go to bed (it's gone midnight)..... catch you all tomorrow!:D
welcome back!!!!!!!

[adamanteus]

Thanks Don!:D

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol hope to hear from you tomarrow:D and the next day..... and the next day...... and the next........ and for a thousand days after that:D

[adamanteus]

Oh, you will, Shanley.... I never left, just had to spend some time away.

[reptileparadise]

Welcome back James!

[GartersRock]

Yay! Glad to see you back James!!

[adamanteus]

Thanks Guys. It's great to be back!:D

[Snake lover 3-25]

:) :)

[Loren]

Hi James.

Didnt know you were gone.


Just kidding. :)

[adamanteus]

Night Guys.:D

[Snake lover 3-25]

bye james:D

[adamanteus]

Bye Shanley, catch you tomorrow! X

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol you better!!!!:D;)

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol typing with one hand is really herd lol meadow is wrapped around my fingers and i don't want to move her:D she's so cute:D

[Lori P]

Holy crap!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=10350045&src=news (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=10350045&src=news)

[Snake lover 3-25]

diapers????

[Snake lover 3-25]

oops too early lol wow that sucks......

euthanized???? why it didn't know it was killing her.....:(

[Lori P]

I don't think they've decided whether to euth or not... I hope not. It's not the snake's fault, is it, for being a snake. This animal control is only about an hour and a half from me... I'll talk to them tomorrow. Hopefully they will let the snake be turned over to a reputable rescue...

[Snake lover 3-25]

yes please:D i really don't think it should be killed for doing something completely natural......:(

[Lori P]

Agreed. It's tragic... and it's a huge reminder to all of us to remain respectful of our snakes. They are still snakes, no matter how much we love them; they run on instinct, not emotion!

[Snake lover 3-25]

yep..... i'll never get a snake that big...... boa will be the biggest i'll ever allow myself to have.............

[Stefan-A]

yep..... i'll never get a snake that big...... boa will be the biggest i'll ever allow myself to have.............
Boa constrictors get bigger than that.

[Snake lover 3-25]

really??? wow.... lol well..... maybe a male boa????

[drache]

really??? wow.... lol well..... maybe a male boa????
Rosy, Rubber, or Sand Boa

[Stefan-A]

Rosy, Rubber, or Sand Boa
Much like hognoses, racers, pine snakes, eastern milks, prairie kings and various natricines, sand boas are also on my wish list. ;) The big snake species aren't.

[Loren]

Wow, that story is crazy- and sad. I would love to have a retic someday, but I know I cant handle one on my own.

I do have a few Kenyan sand boas though. A pair of albinos and a normal.

[drache]

I am currently nursing a 5' RTB through a bad shed for the rescue and part of me likes the girl - very mellow
then I think of the size food she must already be eating and the size cage she should really be having and what she'll grow into and - no
even if she wasn't illegal to keep, I don't think I'd want her
I don't really want anything I'd need help to handle at some point

[jitami]

Man my babies are piglets :D Tomorrow should be feeding day, but I'll be gone this weekend so gave each a pinky & a half today and they're still looking for more :D Could there be an easier pet???

[Stefan-A]

I'm bored. Somebody say something funny/interesting.

[adamanteus]

It's certainly quiet on the forum this evening, Stefan. I'm just busy feeding my new baby radix.

[Stefan-A]

My mauras still prefer live fish. Makes feeding them a bit problematic.

[adamanteus]

Have you posted pics of your mauras yet, Stefan? Did I miss them while I was away?

[Stefan-A]

In my usual thread. :) Mid-september.

Starts here:
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/general-talk/3011-stefans-garters-12.html#post77878

[adamanteus]

Wow. Very nice, Stefan.:)

[Stefan-A]

Which one? :)

[Stefan-A]

Oh and I filmed the unpacking, too. :D

YouTube - Unpacking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xu4IaRkdGw)

[drache]

I guess you bored Stefan to sleep, James

[Stefan-A]

Seems like somebody bored him to sleep. ;)

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol :D nice video:D

[Stefan-A]

I'm bored. Somebody say something funny/interesting.
I'm still bored.

[count dewclaw]

My son just informed me that research shows that magpies can recognize their reflection in a mirror. In other words, they know it is not another magpie, but that it is their reflection. :rolleyes:

I thought that was interesting....

[Stefan-A]

Old news, I'm afraid. :)

[Garter_Gertie]

Not to ME!

Very Cool!

[Stefan-A]

YouTube - Mirror test shows magpies aren't so bird-brained (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRVGA9zxXzk)

It's old news to me because I'm subscribed to New Scientist's videos on YouTube.

[drache]

Sean got some red ackies from a friend of his and I'm smitten, but of course I can't . . .
the RTB finally shed and I brought her back to the rescue
I had a look at Drache earlier and part of me thinks he'd get better faster, if I cleaned those holes out every day, but I'm just not up for it, and the vet said every other day is fine, because that's how often he gets the oral meds, and after all - it's pretty stressful for him too
I bet, if I asked him, he'd not be up for it either
my garters are all doing well
sorry - nothing more entertaining than that
if you're really bored, Stefan, I could pm you some gross pics of Drache's left side

[Stefan-A]

if you're really bored, Stefan, I could pm you some gross pics of Drache's left side
That would be nice.

[Lori P]

Tomorrow is the Richmond Reptile expo. :D I skipped the spring one because I knew I'd come home with something and didn't feel ready.

I'm ready. LOL

It's Jamie's birthday, too, but not only is he sending me off alone to the expo--- he gave me 1/2 his poker winnings from last night!!! Whooooo hoooooo I'm going un-attended to the expo with cold cash!!!!!! :D

[drache]

way to go, Lori
remember to take pics too

[Lori P]

Oh right-- putting the camera in my purse now!!! :-)

[olive oil]

NICE! Hope something catches your eye.

[Loren]

Tomorrow is the Richmond Reptile expo. :D I skipped the spring one because I knew I'd come home with something and didn't feel ready.

I'm ready. LOL

It's Jamie's birthday, too, but not only is he sending me off alone to the expo--- he gave me 1/2 his poker winnings from last night!!! Whooooo hoooooo I'm going un-attended to the expo with cold cash!!!!!! :D
Let me know what you buy me !

:D

[Garter_Gertie]

Sean got some red ackies from a friend of his and I'm smitten, but of course I can't . . .
the RTB finally shed and I brought her back to the rescue
I had a look at Drache earlier and part of me thinks he'd get better faster, if I cleaned those holes out every day, but I'm just not up for it, and the vet said every other day is fine, because that's how often he gets the oral meds, and after all - it's pretty stressful for him too
I bet, if I asked him, he'd not be up for it either
my garters are all doing well
sorry - nothing more entertaining than that
if you're really bored, Stefan, I could pm you some gross pics of Drache's left side

Dull and boring is good sometimes. Particularly after a big stress... Happy to hear not much going at the moment! You can settle in and just enjoy the snakes.

Didn't know you did rescue, too. We've some very special people here!

[Garter_Gertie]

YouTube - Mirror test shows magpies aren't so bird-brained (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRVGA9zxXzk)

It's old news to me because I'm subscribed to New Scientist's videos on YouTube.

Stefan, I think you were born with a microscope in your eye... It seems to me you know more science stuff than men double your age.

Speaking o'which... Just saw on PBS last nite about Hugh Everret (I think I spelled that right). Genuis in quatum physics - parallel universes. His son, some rock star, can't add any better than I can! Funny how genetics are or aren't.

Hugh had his theory at like 24 and was telling some guy by the name of Bols or Bowls or something like that, "with the hubris of youth," that the Bols guy was not correct (sighting of a photon affects it's movement... Coopenhagen Theory) and couldn't understand why this old coot wasn't just thrilled with his 'discovery.'

Was very fascinating and while I know squat about quantum physics I really did enjoy the program.

[Stefan-A]

Stefan, I think you were born with a microscope in your eye... It seems to me you know more science stuff than men double your age.
I only know the absolute basics and a few pieces of trivia.


Speaking o'which... Just saw on PBS last nite about Hugh Everret (I think I spelled that right). Genuis in quatum physics - parallel universes. His son, some rock star, can't add any better than I can! Funny how genetics are or aren't.
Genetics play a (minor) part, but you also need to "practice". The more you solve a certain type of problems, the better you get at it.

[drache]

Didn't know you did rescue, too. We've some very special people here!
I don't really do rescue - just fostering and adopting
let's say - I'm friends with the rescue
it's quite selfish - really
it's like I get to test drive animals - even some I'd never be legally permitted to keep and some I wouldn't want to keep myself
and it's nice to bring them back to the rescue all healthy looking
sometimes they do stick to me
like Bonsai, the 20+ year old corn snake with cataracts; he's got a home with me until someone adopts him, which he isn't a great candidate for
I can just give him a little more space than the rescue can, and he does feel a little less supple than a younger snake . . .

[Lori P]

Awwww. That's what I would want to do: take in the old snakes that no-one else wants!! I always go for the old, decrepit critters...

[Stefan-A]

YouTube - John Butler Trio - Ocean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VAkOhXIsI0)

[Garter_Gertie]

Awwww. That's what I would want to do: take in the old snakes that no-one else wants!! I always go for the old, decrepit critters...


Thass why you love me! :D:D:D

[count dewclaw]

YouTube - John Butler Trio - Ocean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VAkOhXIsI0)

Thanks, Stefan. I really enjoyed listening to that song.

[drache]

thanks, Stefan
I like it

[jitami]

My son just informed me that research shows that magpies can recognize their reflection in a mirror. In other words, they know it is not another magpie, but that it is their reflection. :rolleyes:I thought that was interesting....

Magpies are my absolute favorite bird! Yellow Billed Magpies to be exact. When my youngest son was little he simply called them the "funny birds." They're like jays in the way they harass other animals and are just plain comical. The used to gang up on our dog to steal her dog food. A group would perch on the house and another on the fence. The fence group would swoop down and distract the dog while the house group would grab some dog food. The dog would run back to her bowl and the process would start all over again. Kept our hyper lab busy and I didn't mind feeding the birds :) Sadly they've been hit hard by west nile virus here and I almost never see a good sized flock like I used to. It's a treat to see two or three together now :(

Ok, haven't checked the rest of the board yet, and have two hungry snakes staring me down but just have to know.... Lori, what'd ya get???

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow watching bill nye on stuff happens.... and he just said that a leaf blower run for 30 mins omits more polution than a car running 2200 miles!!!!:eek:

[Stefan-A]

Sounds to me like he just pulled it out of his arse. Then again, I doubt that's the whole story.

[adamanteus]

Gotta go... night Guys, catch you all tomorrow!

[jitami]

Night James :)

[drache]

it's so dark today
gloomy, cold, rainy

here's a little moody piece with a few snake images I like

YouTube - Dambala, Exuma 1970 (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=l2uovHCJHk4)

[Stefan-A]

Very nice, Rhea. :)



..and then something completely different.
We're supposed to hold presentations at school. The presentations will be filmed and afterwards we're going to dissect everybody's "performance". The subject can be anything that we're interested in and know well, such as a hobby, for example. Anything goes, EXCEPT SNAKES, because our teacher is afraid of even looking at pictures of them.

So, I'm looking for a subject that's going to get a stronger reaction out of her than snakes. In short, I'm a bit ticked off. I'm supposed to work with a "handicap" because she's got a problem with snakes? I don't ****ing think so.

[drache]

there are lots of shocking images in the field of medicine - surgery, forensics, dissections - not to mention the effects of unsanitary conditions in third world countries

then there are spiders - how does she feel about those?

[dashnu]

pretty stupid of her... Do your project about maggots.

[Stefan-A]

Spiders have been done, she didn't ban them. My top candidates at the moment are legless lizards, caecilians or intestinal parasites.

[jitami]

That is rediculous... can't wait to hear what you come up with instead of snakes :D

[infernalis]

Intestinal parasites, along with photos of UNTREATED life forms that have the later stages of this. (A Tapeworm half way out should get attention)

Stefan, You would not be the last person that happens to.

It is VERY unfair that you are prohibited from working with a subject that you are so damn passionate about.

I thought that teachers were not allowed to let personal issues interfere with curriculum?

[Loren]

Wayne, you and I think alike(at times) :), I was about to suggest a big tapeworm too.

[Stefan-A]

Intestinal parasites, along with photos of UNTREATED life forms that have the later stages of this. (A Tapeworm half way out should get attention)
Exactly what I was thinking.


Stefan, You would not be the last person that happens to.

It is VERY unfair that you are prohibited from working with a subject that you are so damn passionate about.
I might do it on snakes anyway. I'd like to see her explain why it's "forbidden".


I thought that teachers were not allowed to let personal issues interfere with curriculum?
At the very least, it's unethical.

[Zephyr]

Stefan, if at all costs you can't do it on snakes, I'd go with caecillians; one of the most snake-like creatures I've ever seen.

Or legless lizards. When I went to the San Diego zoo there were tons of people wondering why the animals in the exhibit were lizards and not snakes. :P

[Garter_Gertie]

then there are spiders - how does she feel about those?

That's what I was going to suggest, Stefan.

[Garter_Gertie]

Intestinal Parasites!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lori P]

Oh you guys are good!!! Let us know what you do Stefan... how rediculous of her!!!!

[Stefan-A]

It's 4:33 AM, I'm not really tired, but I guess I need to get some sleep anyway.

Night, folks.

[adamanteus]

I read in another thread somewhere that some of you have had snow already.
We had snow here in the UK yesterday... first of the year, luckily it didn't stick. When I got in the car this morning the thermometer was reading -3. Oh well, here comes winter!

[Snake lover 3-25]

ewwww we had snow over the weekend and it stuck for a few hrs.... then it rained...... now we have aboul an inch of anow and it's still comming down....:(:(:(:mad::mad::mad:

[count dewclaw]

We've been getting some of the wet slushy type snow today. It isn't sticking too much; there is still quite a bit of green showing out in the yard. It is supposed to be warmer tomorrow...my son is going to have a very muddy cross country meet tomorrow! But that's ok with him, he likes running in the mud.

[adamanteus]

Time I was in bed! Catch you all tomorrow.:)

[Snake lover 3-25]

bye james:D

[GartersRock]

We have been getting... 70, sunny, breezy. It's awesome nice here in south TX right now. lol!

[Lori P]

PITY PARTY!!

I have some horrid kind of flu/death inducing virus. I'm pretty sure I won't survive the day. It's 8:00 and I haven't even dragged out to feed the horses yet... and they are all standing at the fence staring at the house, contemplating mutiny. The donkey goes off every 5 minutes like an air raid siren.

Pity?? Sympathy?? Anyone?? Who wants to come tuck me back into bed and shower me with attention and hot soup?? Hubby has gone off to work and left me here to die a slow, agonizing death all alone....

LOLOL I'm SO WHINY when I'm sick...

[drache]

PITY PARTY!!

I have some horrid kind of flu/death inducing virus. I'm pretty sure I won't survive the day. It's 8:00 and I haven't even dragged out to feed the horses yet... and they are all standing at the fence staring at the house, contemplating mutiny. The donkey goes off every 5 minutes like an air raid siren.

Pity?? Sympathy?? Anyone?? Who wants to come tuck me back into bed and shower me with attention and hot soup?? Hubby has gone off to work and left me here to die a slow, agonizing death all alone....

LOLOL I'm SO WHINY when I'm sick...
oh Lori - I'm so sorry
I've been there and I so know what it's like
and all the damn animals - like it isn't bad enough without the guilt
I remember horses too - you have to go outside for them and it involves lugging buckets of stuff
I'm a bit to far away to tuck you in, poor girl, but I would if I could
and I do believe you will survive this thing, even if it doesn't feel that way right now

[Lori P]

Thank you Rhea. I'll just pretend you're tucking me in and hovering over me then. LOL I do love those horses but, oh, yeah, some days I really kind of am tired of all the lugging of heavy feed and hay. I guess I'm getting old. I have two volunteers coming tomorrow to brush and clean hooves, tho, so I'm off the hook on that today. :-)

I sooooo wanted to see my little nephew today, but can't now. Snivel. He's growing so fast!! He's 2.

Ok... dragging myself outside... siiiiiiiigh :-)

[Sid]

Sympathy hug for you, Lori.:( Hope you're all better real soon.

[GartersRock]

Aww... Feel better soon Lori! The equines will live. :D Poor things are so abused. lol!!

Reptile show today!! YAY! It's a hot show too. :D Fun.
Mostly picking up non garter stuff, and food. But getting an adult female eastern. WHOOT! :D:D:D And if anyone has any garters for sale (sometimes there are 1 or 2) I will try to get those as well. ;)
Wish me luck. LOL

[Garter_Gertie]

Lori, if ittiz any consolation... For the past week at work I've been getting ssssoooo hot: sweating, clammy, hot! Then yesterday it hit: the contacted eyes got dry, I was sweating but my skin was burning, then I was freezing so bad I was shaking - even though my skin was still on fire. Yup. The fever hit.

I spent a restless night 1/2 unclad going from periods of blissful coolness to periods of being drenched in sweat.

I'm HOPING it's just a sinus infection/bronchitus that I'm prone to and not some horrid bug. We're scheduled for flu shots at work on like the 10th.

But I am worried... We a temp at work that was working so sick - STUPID BEING - she was falling asleep at work. WE had to make her go to the dr. Her breath was so labored you could hear it. Already one person at work she worked with as been out two days.

A sinus infection/bronchitus can be cured... I am a bit worried.

[Stefan-A]

Pet expo today. Somewhat disappointing. A couple of people selling reptiles. 80% corns, a couple of kingsnakes, a rainbow boa, a boa constrictor, I think I saw a juvenile black ratsnake and the mandatory beardies, leopard geckos and crested geckos. Nothing interesting. At least they had a couple of Pituophis and Corallus last year, but nothing like that this year.

The most interesting thing present was a pen they had set up for ferrets. They had about half a dozen of them running around in it. Fun to watch. I think they actually had more cockroach species present, than interesting individual herps.

[Garter_Gertie]

Stefan, you need to breed so you can go to the Xpo and sell something interesting!

Ah, wait.

What I mean is you need to breed YOUR SNAKES...

The fingers don't always type what the brain means... I need more coffee.

[Stefan-A]

I don't want to sell, I want to buy. :D

[Lori P]

Stefan, sorry you were disapointed by the expo. Next time, just come here to ours. :-)

Hey guys, check out these "flying" snakes. You probably know about them, but this was new to me. Tooooooo cool!!!!

Flying Snake Home Page (http://www.flyingsnake.org/)

[Stefan-A]

Stefan, sorry you were disapointed by the expo. Next time, just come here to ours. :-)
I'd like that. :) Ain't gonna happen, though.


You probably know about them,
Yeah. :D Have known about them for about 20 years. ;)

[jitami]

Lori & Gertie, so sorry you're not feeling well!!! :( Hope that changes quickly!

Amanda, Have fun at the expo!!!

Stefan, that's the way I felt about the one here, but no entraining ferrets to watch. It was my first expo and I was really disappointed. I don't know know what I expected... more variety, maybe? I dunno. Got a cool branch and a water dish and called it good.

[drache]

I guess in some ways I'm lucky
poor Drache has developed a third lesion over the past three days (rubor, tumor, dolor, probably calor and loss of function too) in his lower jaw in front of the bottom one
I'd been pestering Sean to take a look at what I'm doing, but he's been busy with the halloween adoption event - a big block party
here's where I'm lucky though
my vet came in from Pennsylvania to do the "ask the vet" booth, and I can give him Drache for the next round - I am so relieved
the vet's really into garters too, so I gave him one of the thamnophis posters - told him it's his christmas bonus early

[Garter_Gertie]

Oh, Rhea. The troubles you've had with Drache. I'm so sorry. Life truly is just one damn thing after another.

Great idea with the poster as a Christmas present! I'm very sure your vet will appreciate it.

[Lori P]

That was a GREAT idea-- to give one to your vet. My vet is not so much into garters, but wonder if he'd still appreciate it?? Hmmm....

I just woke up from a long nap, snuggled down in bed with at least 10 dogs, LOL, so I'm feeling much better now. All those little heartbeats all around me made for a good peaceful nap. :-)

[Garter_Gertie]

GREAT! Glad to hear you're feeling perkier. Naps and doglettes are great for comfort.

[Lori P]

Oh, good grief. Remember the link about the lady who was killed by her retic here in Va? Well, Craig's List is now full of burms, rtb's, etc... some ads state that that is the reason they are getting rid of them. I suppose there will be a huge rash of dumped large breeds now...

[Stefan-A]

Stefan, that's the way I felt about the one here, but no entraining ferrets to watch. It was my first expo and I was really disappointed. I don't know know what I expected... more variety, maybe? I dunno. Got a cool branch and a water dish and called it good.
I didn't get anything at all this year. Last year I bought a bag of pinkies, because they were cheap, but I didn't see anybody selling snake food this year. Then again, I was there early and they were still setting up their stuff. They were done when I left, though.

[Stefan-A]

Oh, good grief. Remember the link about the lady who was killed by her retic here in Va? Well, Craig's List is now full of burms, rtb's, etc... some ads state that that is the reason they are getting rid of them. I suppose there will be a huge rash of dumped large breeds now...
People who probably shouldn't have gotten them in the first place. I really hope they choose to put them down instead of dumping them and considering that they're not going to find good homes for them all anyway.

[Garter_Gertie]

I agree, Stefan. I think the people should be put down, too.

[Stefan-A]

Maybe not put down, but I wouldn't mind if they were beaten up.