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Garter_Gertie

07-04-2008, 02:56 PM

Happy Independece Day to all Colonists!

Did you know Thomas Jefferson and John Henry Adams (I'm pretty sure it was those specific two; know it was for sure Thomas Jefferson) died on July 4th?

Here's today's menu, all to be done on the grill:

Fresh quartered pineapple marinated in peach preserves (I forgot I was outta honey...), water, ginger, and Ceylon Cinnamon, "Continental 00000" (whatever THAT means). ("Ceylon 'true' cinnamon has a soft, complex taste with a hint of citrus. Used in English baking for fruit tarts and cakes. It is also the cinnamon of choice in Mexido for pastries and rice dishes," thus spaketh Penzey's. Once you try Ceylon Cinnamon you'll never go back to 'regular' cinnamon, thus spaketh Gertie.)

Porterhouse steak, marniated in oil, Penzey's "Chicago" steak seasoning, and a splash of vinegar. Will be seared and then slowly cooked to med-rare.

Mushrooms and ionions for the steak. Will be done in real butter.

And last, but by no means least, eggplant - aborginnes (I TOTALLY slaughtered the spelling on that! I'm sorry, but I can't pronouce it.) - with fresh tomatoe slices, fresh sweet basil (that I've grown! :D), and provolone cheese.

BURP! :D

Garter_Gertie

07-04-2008, 03:00 PM

Fresh eggplant slices, with slices of fresh tomatoe, fresh basil leaves and provolone slices.

drache

07-04-2008, 05:15 PM

can I come to your house?

Garter_Gertie

07-04-2008, 06:36 PM

Please, Rhea. Ittiz just me. You're more than welcome!

Oh. I added a bit of nutmeg to the pineapple. YEAH!

And I fried up some bacon to put in the 'shrooms and onions. Couldn't help but eat quite a bit o'the bacon with the fresh, raw hamburger onions. I don't know what ittiz about the combo, but I can't get enuff o'it! :D Fortunately ittiz only the kids that's gotta put up with my stentch! :D

anji1971

07-04-2008, 06:39 PM

I wanna come too! And we don't even celebrate July 4th, but our holiday was the 1st, so close enough, I say.
Bring on the steak, and I'll take every extra slice of provolone you've got!:D

Garter_Gertie

07-04-2008, 06:42 PM

Anj, get in the car. I'm just east and south o'you. You're welcome, too. And I got TWO packages o'the cheese. Your extra slice will not be a prob.

And HAPPY HOLIDAY THE 1st!!!

anji1971

07-04-2008, 06:45 PM

Anj, get in the car. I'm just east and south o'you. You're welcome, too. And I got TWO packages o'the cheese. Your extra slice will not be a prob.

And HAPPY HOLIDAY THE 1st!!!

Okay, I'll wake my husband up and tell him to drive me to Minnesota! That ought to go over real well...........:rolleyes::D

Garter_Gertie

07-04-2008, 06:48 PM

Yeah. Like a turd in a punch bowl.

As ittiz... I've been preparing all day... And drinking beeer the whole time (BURP!) so I think the cooking will have to wait until tomorrow.

Bright side? Yous gots time, Anj! :D

Gotta say, ittiz SO NICE to spend my holiday with folks I like so much. THANKS for sharing the day!

anji1971

07-04-2008, 06:50 PM

You're quite welcome! And you know what? I'm going to go and get a cooler from the kitchen so's I can even share a drink with you!! How's that sound?:D

Garter_Gertie

07-04-2008, 07:05 PM

Hurry. I'll get a new beer and we can "Cheers!" :D

crzy_kevo

07-04-2008, 07:07 PM

i drink that that i got my beer

anji1971

07-04-2008, 07:39 PM

Okay, I'm back with my cooler now! So "Cheers!";)
Had to take off and dig up worms before it got dark. Gotta feed the babies tonight!
I noticed today how much they're growing already.............

Garter_Gertie

07-04-2008, 07:41 PM

(clinking beer can on monitor...)

CHEERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

crzy_kevo

07-04-2008, 07:47 PM

lol cheers gertie

Garter_Gertie

07-04-2008, 07:53 PM

Cheers, Kevie. Nice to have northern 'cousins' that are so friendly, neighborly and friendly. Nice to know'ya.

crzy_kevo

07-04-2008, 07:56 PM

well i like being a friendly guy

Garter_Gertie

07-04-2008, 08:15 PM

I must toddle. John wants to take me to bed.
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.John. John Sanford and his newest hardback - Phantom Prey.

Missy Mayo, gods bless her. I've no idea what she previously went thru but thunderstroms TERRIFY her. I didn't have her last 4th o'July but I'm seeing fireworks also terrify her. I must go snuggle her and enforce to her nothing bad's going to happen to her as long as she's under MY watch. Poor girl! She's just shivering and shaking.

John. Missy Mayo. Pickles. The Cats. Sounds like a good time to me! :D

Catch you all later!

drache

07-05-2008, 09:33 AM

last night we hosted a young couple from germany who a starting on a camper trip today
Tim is the son of the family friend who first introduced me to reptiles when I was a kid
of course I had no idea whether Tim was going to be at all interested in my animals, but he actually started looking right after they put their bags down
he keeps turtles and tells me that his father, Gernot, breeds kingsnakes and keeps a lot of different turtles and a few other snakes and stuff
apparently no gartersnakes though
Tim was happy that I could lend him my field guide, since he forgot the one he'd gotten for the trip - so cool
so they're headed south and very spontaneous
anything they should not miss?

Lumpy

07-06-2008, 09:04 PM

My wife and I spent the holiday R&Ring on the boat. We had a vistor swing by every day to check out the happenings at the marina. Usually Herons are rather shy, but one of the docks had 2 pink yard flamingos mounted on pilings, and the Heron was in love...

Not great pics, I was stretching it with the zoom on my camera.

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/43643/2433636620065220144S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2433636620065220144WZpCEq)
http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/23573/2338388360065220144S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2338388360065220144bnmwbM)

Lump

Lori P

07-07-2008, 05:36 AM

Very nice. :-)

jitami

07-07-2008, 09:55 AM

Sweet! My mom has one visit her pond a few times a year. It's always a treat to see him.

Lori P

07-08-2008, 06:32 AM

This one's for Gertie-- I've been meaning to show you MY Gertie! Did you know you had a namesake in Va??

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Gertie_7_8_08_001_face.jpg

Woooookit that face.... I just love this girl to bits... :)

Stefan-A

07-08-2008, 06:35 AM

Looks like something from the Mos Eisley cantina. :D ;)

Garter_Gertie

07-08-2008, 07:32 AM

Very fitting, I say. Since I'm an @$$ myself...

No comments from the Peanut Gallery!

infernalis

07-08-2008, 08:06 AM

Jabba does hire some amusing performers Stefan.:D

Zephyr

07-09-2008, 12:26 AM

Agh... It's 2:30 AM here. I'm trying to get my sleep and photo cycles back on track... All nighter, wooo.... ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz... x.x

Stefan-A

07-09-2008, 12:29 PM

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data/500/medium/matey1.jpg

Yay!

430 days ago...

reptileparadise

07-09-2008, 12:30 PM

well...I might be a little (430 days) late...but congrats :D

drache

07-09-2008, 12:35 PM

yeah - from me too

Stefan-A

07-09-2008, 12:38 PM

Well she could at least throw a couple of slugs, that'd be satisfying enough at this point.

Lori P

07-09-2008, 04:51 PM

Haven't seen Reed lately... anyone been talking to him??

Zephyr

07-09-2008, 04:52 PM

Haven't seen Reed lately... anyone been talking to him??
Ya know, neither have I!
I hope he's okay.

Lori P

07-09-2008, 04:54 PM

I don't think I have a private email for him... but I'll pm him on here. It's just odd, he's always around... like a bad weed... LOLOL Don't tell him I said that!!!!!

drache

07-09-2008, 05:06 PM

I've been so busy myself, I hadn't noticed yet, but now that you mention it . . .
hopefully he's just busy too

ssssnakeluvr

07-09-2008, 05:22 PM

I was wondering the same....I sent a pm last night, but haven't gotten a response yet....

Lori P

07-10-2008, 06:32 AM

Stefan--- here's one for you!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Blasphemy.jpg

Stefan-A

07-10-2008, 06:35 AM

I've seen it before. :D But thanks for remembering me. ;)

Lori P

07-10-2008, 06:43 AM

I'm still sniggering over it. I want that on a t shirt. lol

Lori P

07-10-2008, 10:29 AM

Aaargh.... how can people be so careless??? How do you hit a big turtle in the road?? How can you not see it??

I found a box turtle on the way in to work, lying upside down in the road. He has been hit in the head. He is still alive, but one eye is badly damaged and he does not seem to be able to withdraw his head totally into his shell. He is strong, tho... and no external shell or body damage, just the head.

My exotic vet is not in today. My boss (equine vet) was here when I got here and I had him look at him, and he feels the damage is too extreme for survival but he did not have any idea how to euthanize a turtle with drugs. And he wasn't sure about survival, it was just his guess. He's not a reptile guy at all. He was on his way out to a horse call, so he's gone now.

I feel the turtle must be in pain. (Of course) Here are the options as I see them, please give me your input:

1. I keep the turtle dark and quiet until tomorrow and take him to my reptile vet first thing.

2. I keep him dark and quiet until I get home this evening and have hubby shoot him (that's 6 hours from now).

3. I get advice from somewhere on how to euth him now. We do have a refrig and freezer here... but would that add to his pain??

Aaaargh.... the poor guy. I can take some pics with my cell phone if anyone needs but they won't be great. Thanks for helping me here guys...

crzy_kevo

07-10-2008, 10:42 AM

i have no idea i would try cooling him off to attempt a state of hibernation it could ease buy you time or it could put it to rest

Stefan-A

07-10-2008, 10:59 AM

Tough question.

Barbiturate overdose would do it, although shooting would do the job just as well. I wouldn't bother trying to freeze it.

Lori P

07-10-2008, 11:09 AM

I have euthanasia solution here, but the question is, where does one inject a turtle? That's why mt vet didn't want to do it.

crzy_kevo

07-10-2008, 11:17 AM

could try force feeding tylenol a couple pills hsould be enough and it problably wont feel a thing

Stefan-A

07-10-2008, 11:18 AM

Overdose of barbiturate
o Intravenous route– injection into the venous sinus in the dorsal midline of the tail.
o Intraperitoneal route - enter the abdominal cavity anterior to a hind leg.
o May need prior sedation (eg. with an injection of Ketamine or Saffan into the quadriceps muscle, or in terrestrial species, by inhalation of an anaesthetic gas).

crzy_kevo

07-10-2008, 11:35 AM

damn you know your stuff stefan

Stefan-A

07-10-2008, 11:37 AM

No, I just have a large collection of PDF:s. Two of them are about euthanasia of animals, including reptiles.

Lori P

07-10-2008, 11:49 AM

Thanks Stefan. I can do IP. We'll hit him with some ketamine first to sedate him. I really apreciate it... we were thinking we could go that route, but wanted to make sure. Never injected a reptile before.

jitami

07-10-2008, 11:53 AM

Good info to have. We seem to need it frequently here.

Lori, if it were me I'd stop his suffering. It sounds like either injection site that Stefan mentioned would be relatively easy. :(

Remember, there's no wrong answer here, just listen to your heart, evaluate his suffering, and go from there. Sorry you're having to make this decision :(

jitami

07-10-2008, 11:55 AM

Guess you already came to that conclusion... can you tell I was thinking long and hard as I wrote... I know it's not easy and I truly appreciate you giving your time and emotions to all of the critters you help. (((hugs)))

Lori P

07-10-2008, 01:24 PM

Thanks Tami. And extra thanks to Stefan for confirming how to procede. It was actually a very easy procedure and he slipped into unconsciousness within a couple of minutes, and then passed away within 10 minutes. Very peaceful.

And now I know for future reference. THANK YOU!!!!!

Stefan-A

07-10-2008, 01:27 PM

I'm glad it's over.

crzy_kevo

07-10-2008, 01:30 PM

im glad too that poor turtle
that could have been torty yesterday had i not run out to save him

Lori P

07-10-2008, 01:35 PM

It's actually been over for a while, too, I just got busy here at work and couldn't get on to tell you. After looking him over more closely (after he was dead) and cleaning away clotted blood, we found that both of his eyes were out of socket too. :-( It was the right thing to do.

anji1971

07-10-2008, 01:47 PM

Awww, poor guy...........
I always feel sad when I hear stuff like this. I'm so glad Stefan found the info to make it easier for both you and the turtle.

infernalis

07-10-2008, 04:42 PM

R.I.P. Little one... There's no cars near the pond he's at now..

Sid

07-10-2008, 05:50 PM

Glad you were the one to find it, Lori and humanely ends its suffering. I went out last night after a rain and found four Eastern Box Turtles. The first was a young one that had been hit and had sever damage. I had to finish it then and there. The other three were OK, just moved them well out of the road.

reptileparadise

07-11-2008, 03:08 AM

yeah, my very first Oedura monillis...ever!
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/DSC_0089Small.jpg

And the chams are growing like crazy :o
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/DSC_0054Small.jpg

Stefan-A

07-11-2008, 03:39 AM

Congratulations again. :)

Meh, I keep getting phone calls from complete nitwits (at work) and I can't tell them to gently insert a pineapple in an orifice of their choosing.

Lori P

07-11-2008, 05:08 AM

Ooooh that little chameleon is so darling, and he looks like he has quite an attitude!!

Stefan... lol... we have a little picture of a Colt 45 that we pass to each other at the office while those nitwits (the same ones must be calling us, lol) are on the phone with us. Then we can pretend to shoot them repeatedly. Good stress reliever. Please note, Stefan, it is a PICTURE we have. You may not bring your real firepower to work. LOL

infernalis

07-11-2008, 05:18 AM

Woo Hoo - other turtle nuts:D

Ever have turtles whiz all over the inside of your car, trying to get them to a better place than in the middle of the road?

How about big snappers?? now there is some fun! My silly son has told more than a few people how daddy "saves turtles with his hammer" then I get stuck trying to explain I only use the handle to let the snapper bite down on it so I can drag his pre-historic Jurassic looking butt to the side of the road.

Motorists laying on horns as we run out into 6 lanes of expressway to get the turtle out of the road:eek:

As animal lovers with a strong respect for life, Not too many living things get ignored if we notice them in need..

Lori P

07-11-2008, 05:22 AM

I once stood up to an 18 wheeler bearing down on a turtle... that was in my teens, before I knew that 18 wheelers take a looooooooooong time to slow down and stop. :eek: Guess the turtle gods wanted that turtle to live, as I did not get squooshed that day and saved the turtle. LOL

Stefan-A

07-11-2008, 05:28 AM

You may not bring your real firepower to work. LOL
Yeah, I know. But I'm going to start working on an invention that will allow you stab people over the phone.

Lori P

07-11-2008, 05:29 AM

(Gasping in awe) Ohhhh Stefan. Please put me first on the purchase list!!!!!!!!

Stefan-A

07-11-2008, 05:37 AM

I will. :)

Damn these people. I was a misanthropist before I took this job, but I think I've actually achieved another level of misanthropy thanks to them.

Lori P

07-11-2008, 05:50 AM

"Headlines: Stefan A, a confirmed misanthropist, managed to defenestrate all who annoyed him on Friday..."

Stefan-A

07-11-2008, 05:55 AM

So that's why you were searching the forums. :D

If I actually had a choice, I'd throw them into a pit with man-eating anteaters.

Stefan-A

07-11-2008, 06:14 AM

Oh rapture! I just received a properly, nay, EXEMPLARILY filled-in form. That almost makes up for the other 250 or so that people have either not filled in properly or just wiped their arse on. Oh I can't WAIT for this country to become a dictatorship. Or at least a meritocracy.

reptileparadise

07-11-2008, 06:15 AM

Stefan, it sounds like you really like to work with people :D

Stefan-A

07-11-2008, 06:31 AM

Stefan, it sounds like you really like to work with people :D
Oh I like to work with people, just not with every single type there is. :D

You wouldn't believe the crap some of them come up with. One nutjob called me earlier this week and said he wasn't going to fill in the form (it's mandatory, by the way) we've been mailing out, just to get back at the municipality, because somebody here was rude to him a decade or two ago.

I'm really not made for apologizing for other people's indiscretions. If it were up to me..

reptileparadise

07-11-2008, 07:39 AM

Yeah...sometimes there's just no reason to be proud of humanity...

ssssnakeluvr

07-11-2008, 09:51 AM

Yeah...sometimes there's just no reason to be proud of humanity...
no kidding....I deal with these types all the time!!!!

Stefan-A

07-11-2008, 10:31 AM

More good news. About 24 minutes ago I found out that the ****ing idiots on the property next to ours (I'd use the term 'neighbour' if that's what I consider them at this point) has used significant amounts of herbicides (Roundup) right by the border, and more importantly, right at the water's edge. In short, it's an environmental crime.

But what pisses me off the most, is that it's the only place on this little island, where you can find frogs and the occasional snake. Now these morons have managed to destroy the vegetation and the herbicides have an effect on the fauna as well. The Baltic is the most polluted sea in the world already, partially because of assholes like these people.

Somebody just expressed their concern for my blood pressure. What should I do? I've gotten a ****wit overdose, somebody please help.

jitami

07-11-2008, 11:21 AM

Totally sucks Stefan. Are there any sort of repercussions for this environmental crime? Sigh...

reptileparadise

07-11-2008, 11:22 AM

How about chopping the neighbours (?) legg off?

Stefan-A

07-11-2008, 11:24 AM

Very rarely, Tami.

Stefan-A

07-11-2008, 11:25 AM

How about chopping the neighbours (?) legg off?
I'd rather just twist it until it comes off. Bas Rutten has shown me how to do it. ;)

jitami

07-11-2008, 11:49 AM

Very rarely, Tami.

Yeah, same here. I think the leg twisting should work then :(

reptileparadise

07-11-2008, 12:11 PM

Hmmm the guys looks like someone I don't want to mess with...(Bas Rutten, not your neighbour)

reptileparadise

07-12-2008, 03:38 AM

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
My season is a succes! As far as I know, the first to be bred in Holland :D
Eurdactylodes agricolae
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/DSC_0041Small.jpg

Stefan-A

07-12-2008, 03:58 AM

Congratulations. :)

drache

07-12-2008, 04:48 AM

wow - congrats
it's so beautiful and tiny

Garter_Gertie

07-12-2008, 04:50 AM

That's wonderful, 'Paradise! Congratulations! Cute little thing. What's it called in layman's terms?

drache

07-12-2008, 04:53 AM

it's some kind of gecko

anji1971

07-12-2008, 06:11 AM

Congrats! It's a very cute some kind of gecko!:p

GartersRock

07-12-2008, 09:37 AM

Wow! Thats very different looking! COngrats!

jitami

07-12-2008, 05:58 PM

Oh my goodness it's adorable! Congratulations!

reptileparadise

07-13-2008, 03:51 AM

Thanks guys...Unfortunatly these don't have a common name (I call them tree hugging hippies, but I don't think it will become a succes)

reptileparadise

07-13-2008, 02:10 PM

Look what I found in my backyard!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/vuurbuikpad/Exotic%20green%20rally%202008/DSC_0159Small.jpg

3 days of the most important rally in the Netherlands...I'm not a car fan, but its fun to watch

enigma200316

07-16-2008, 02:10 PM

well I know i said a little while ago I would give you a couple pics of my similis, so here they are not the best(I can't take pics) but a couple I was able to snap off......http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/M-similis.jpg
Male- more of a greenish color rather than blue.......

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/M-similis_.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/F-similis.jpg
Female- more of a nice blue color.......
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/F-similis_.jpg

enigma200316

07-16-2008, 02:17 PM

of course they look better in person, and I told ya I can't take good pics...
trust me any good ones I have taken happened on accident......:o
anyway they should be ready next year for breeding.......can't wait:D:D

Lori P

07-16-2008, 02:22 PM

Nice, Justin. But really, you should just send them to me. :-)

anji1971

07-17-2008, 09:07 AM

They're beautiful, Justin! :)
And those aren't bad pictures. You're too hard on yourself!;)

JSI

07-17-2008, 11:14 AM

Stefan-A

07-17-2008, 11:27 AM

It's too popular here.

drache

07-17-2008, 12:07 PM

oh man
I was going to pass my tea break by showing you what I'm working on, but my (free) flickr account is full and I can't figure out how to change my yahoo address to coincide with the one my credit card is billed to
anyway
I'll just figure that one out later and feed you pics down the process
I'm building a support structure for a 6'x2'x25" glass cage with sliding doors, that weighs . . . well it took five of us to heave it up the stairs (with our bare sweaty hands), and we're the approximate equivalent of two very burly guys with those suction cup handle thingies - it's kinda heavy
so my structure has to be sound and I'm framing it right into a corner
I'm doing this with almost exclusively with reused lumber, so I have to work around existing holes
also - yesterday I found to my dismay, that not only are neither the floor level nor the walls plumb
in my limited imagination, it had never occurred to me, that the corner might also not be a right angle
thankfully I had two of those boards, one of which is slated for a shorter lower level
I do a lot of sitting and staring at it, to see what else I might have to work around
the tank's gotta go on it tonight
tea break over

Lori P

07-19-2008, 12:45 PM

Hey guys-- who is it on here that's the bird expert? Someone newer... now I can't remember... we rescued a parrot yesterday from pitiful conditions and I want to brain storm to make sure I'm doing everything right. :-) I'll pm them if anyone remembers who it is. :-)

reptileparadise

07-19-2008, 12:46 PM

Sorry, can't help you with that. (Name)
Have you tried searching the introduction forum?

Lori P

07-19-2008, 12:50 PM

Ah-- good thinking. :-) I'll try that, thanks!!

Lori P

07-19-2008, 01:30 PM

Ok, this is so cool. :-) (But then you know I'm easy to please!!) So last week, for the first time, I put two litters of my own home bred pinkies in the freezer. This morning, Mrs. Mordecai got some of mine on one side of her dish and some left over from Rodent Pro on the other...

Guess which ones got eaten first??!!! Yep-- mine!! LOL I felt rediculously gratified that she chose the ones I grew for her... in fact, she BY PASSED the Rodent Pro ones for mine. :D Methinks I must grow yummy mice!!!!! lol

adamanteus

07-19-2008, 04:11 PM

Well, for a moment I thought my whole life was about to change.... I was checking this week's lottery results and the first four numbers out, I had! The final two numbers I was just a couple of digits out (29, I had 27 and 34, I had 32)... those digits make the difference between the £40- I just won and the £4.8 million I could have won!

Lori P

07-19-2008, 04:33 PM

Well, gosh... with that 4.8 you could have brought us all over to visit you!!

Snake lover 3-25

07-19-2008, 09:38 PM

lol keep trying james!!!!! it'll happen some day!!!!:D:p

larean

07-20-2008, 09:35 AM

groan.. a 2 week holiday and 3169 unread posts.

Snake lover 3-25

07-20-2008, 01:02 PM

lol wow........ i've been skipping some....... just read from the top down..... and skip the ones you aren't interested in.....:D

Stefan-A

07-20-2008, 01:14 PM

Yeah, James, keep trying. If you keep lottoing for long enough, you're guaranteed to win. ;)

Stefan-A

07-20-2008, 01:18 PM

reptileparadise

07-20-2008, 01:20 PM

Congrats stefan! Any pics from the breeder/current owner?

Stefan-A

07-20-2008, 01:26 PM

Congrats stefan! Any pics from the breeder/current owner?
No, they're going to send me one as soon as they've had time to take some. I've asked for a description regarding the coloration of the stripes, the back and any markings it may have.

Garter_Gertie

07-20-2008, 01:34 PM

Keeping my fingers crossed, I may have found a new mate for my parietalis. I expect to be utterly disappointed some time in the next few days.

By which I mean that with my luck, it has probably been misidentified.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:uOJgIhMxZtysPM:http://i.pbase.com/v3/38/605038/1/50807872.eyore.gif (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i.pbase.com/v3/38/605038/1/50807872.eyore.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.pbase.com/gemrox/image/50807872&h=96&w=96&sz=9&hl=en&start=40&um=1&tbnid=uOJgIhMxZtysPM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=81&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deyore%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3 D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ie%3DUTF-8)

Stefan-A

07-20-2008, 01:48 PM

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:uOJgIhMxZtysPM:http://i.pbase.com/v3/38/605038/1/50807872.eyore.gif (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i.pbase.com/v3/38/605038/1/50807872.eyore.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.pbase.com/gemrox/image/50807872&h=96&w=96&sz=9&hl=en&start=40&um=1&tbnid=uOJgIhMxZtysPM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=81&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deyore%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3 D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ie%3DUTF-8)
Bah. Better than that little swine or the ADHD tiger.

Lulu Bennett

07-21-2008, 03:48 PM

Hi everyone

adamanteus

07-21-2008, 03:49 PM

Hi Lulu. X:)

drache

07-23-2008, 04:06 AM

hey
I got my first ever corn snake
the poor guy lost his family after 20 years
yup - he was acquired in '88
and for a snake that age he is really small, so we've named him Bonsai
he's also got cataracts

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2695586680_d2c46c3c52_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2695588506_e0a525c434_b.jpg

he had some old shed on him, so Mikhaila was giving him the snake beauty parlour treatment

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 04:11 AM

A genuine Miami phase corn? :) The coloration suggests it (although my knowledge of corn morphs is limited) and they're supposed to be significantly smaller than the normal one. But he still looks small.

He looks skinny, too. Old age or not enough food?

drache

07-23-2008, 04:23 AM

we were wondering how come he stayed so small
he did spend his life in a ten gallon tank

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 04:30 AM

Does enclosure size influence animal size?

drache

07-23-2008, 04:32 AM

Does enclosure size influence animal size?
not that I know, but I wonder now . . .
my thinking was more along the line that if they skimped on space, perhaps they skimped on food as well

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 04:35 AM

I find that more plausible.

If I'm right about the type of corn, it's not necessarily the only reason. :) A lack of exercise would leave the muscles underdeveloped as well.

drache

07-23-2008, 05:01 AM

I hadn't thought about the exercise part, but of course in a small tank like that . . .

anyway - he's found his retirement home

and on another note:
after trying everything else with no luck, I broke down at last and got live minnows for my babies and all except for one ate - yippee
I'm not thrilled that their food of choice is something I have to go to the petshop for, but we'll change that in a couple of months when they've fattened up a bit
I hope that last one will come around soon

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 05:13 AM

Good news, then. :)

My parietalis on the other hand is off feed again. Has been for over a month, if you don't count the occasional pieces of salmon she's eaten during that time. Not that I'm worried, she's been fed heavily since she came out of brumation.

infernalis

07-23-2008, 05:43 AM

20 years in a 10 gallon tank:( It's like those holding cells in Viet Nam.

A common misconception is that regulating food will keep the animal smaller, Heard that more than once from buffoons who try to keep Pythons and Iguanas small.

""I broke down at last and got live minnows for my babies and all except for one ate - yippee""

Now there is some good news:D

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 05:59 AM

I'm fairly sure that it does result in stunted growth both in mammals and reptiles. Maybe we're not thinking about the same thing here?

infernalis

07-23-2008, 06:13 AM

Stunted growth, poor physical development, sickly, and so forth.

The falacy is derived from fish, "they will never grow beyond what the enviroment allows"

Yes Stefan, We are talking the same thing, it sickens me and it happens every day.

I would love to stuff these PEOPLE in a 10 gallon tank and give them one slice of bread every 3 days to stunt their growth!

Now that would be amusing.

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 06:18 AM

Stunted growth, poor physical development, sickly, and so forth.

Yes Stefan, We are talking the same thing, it sickens me and it happens every day.
No, we were talking about different things. Your focus seems to have been on the fact that it's a stupid thing to attempt, I was thinking about whether or not it works (not if it's a good idea). Or am I wrong? :)

I would love to stuff these PEOPLE in a 10 gallon tank and give them one slice of bread every 3 days to stunt their growth!

Now that would be amusing.
I'd get bored too quickly. Why not beat them with sticks and see if candy comes out of them?

infernalis

07-23-2008, 06:29 AM

No, we were talking about different things. Your focus seems to have been on the fact that it's a stupid thing to attempt, I was thinking about whether or not it works (not if it's a good idea). Or am I wrong? :)

It works only to a small degree.

Think of this, take two identical human twins, one is fed the ideal diet, the other bread and water for a period of 20 years.

both may reach 6 feet tall, one healthy, one skinny....

The healthier one may reach an older age due to having proper nutrition for it's lifetime, the other more susceptible to disease and will be weaker.

And in my mind if it worked, there would be mini animals all over, a python the size of a garter would sell gangbusters in the pet industry, or Green Iguanas the size of an Anole?? Easily worth a lot of money.

That's why breeders are always attempting to create miniature or dwarf animals, however they use genetics rather than starvation to reach this goal.

Are we on the same page yet?

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 06:38 AM

Are we on the same page yet?
You tell me. I hear what you're saying and I agree with the point you're making, but it was not the point I was making.

infernalis

07-23-2008, 06:44 AM

You tell me. I hear what you're saying and I agree with the point you're making, but it was not the point I was making.

Then please elaborate.....

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 06:48 AM

That's why breeders are always attempting to create miniature or dwarf animals, however they use genetics rather than starvation to reach this goal.
Take a group of animals, keep them on a diet that just barely keeps them capable of reproducing. Continue it for a few thousand generations. :rolleyes:

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 06:50 AM

Then please elaborate.....
What's there to elaborate? My concern was whether or not it would result in stunted growth.

infernalis

07-23-2008, 06:52 AM

Isn't that a form of evolution??

And yes, My feeble little mind thinks that will work..

Hasn't history already answered that?:confused:

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 06:57 AM

Isn't that a form of evolution??
Indeed it is. The idea was that the ones that waste the least amount of energy on growth will may gain a reproductive advantage by being able to produce more offspring. It's the random mutations that are supposed to lead to a smaller size that are going to be difficult to predict. :D

infernalis

07-23-2008, 07:01 AM

Ever been accused of being too analytical??

drache

07-23-2008, 07:04 AM

Ever been accused of being too analytical??
never

yeah - and what about stimulation?
they can get most species to shrivel just with proper lack of stimulation

infernalis

07-23-2008, 07:11 AM

never

yeah - and what about stimulation?
they can get most species to shrivel just with proper lack of stimulation

I have heard that works quite well with one eye worms:rolleyes:

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 08:33 AM

Ever been accused of being too analytical??
Never by somebody else.

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 08:35 AM

I have heard that works quite well with one eye worms:rolleyes:
Baculum ftw!

infernalis

07-23-2008, 08:36 AM

First time for everything :D Mr. Forensic.....

infernalis

07-23-2008, 08:38 AM

Baculum ftw!

Thanks Stefan I just learned a new word to use in my twisted replies...:D

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 08:46 AM

First time for everything :D Mr. Forensic.....
Well, I have already accused myself a number of times. I've actually lost numerous strategy games because of it. :D.

anji1971

07-23-2008, 08:52 AM

Being that I'm not analytical at all, I'll stay out of this conversation!:p

Rhea, nice addition to your home. It does look like the poor thing has been kept in less than ideal conditions for all these years, so I am extremely glad to see he's found you.:)

Snake lover 3-25

07-23-2008, 09:10 AM

i'm sick... :( i'm never sick...... but I have been for 4 days.... :( I have some kind of bug.... and I can hardly get out of bed..... but i'm still going to work..... I won't be on much till next sunday because i'm going to camp.... but i'll have my phone..... so i'll trya nd stay on as much as possible..... I still have a fever.....:(

crzy_kevo

07-23-2008, 09:13 AM

awww poor girl hope you feel better soon

GartersRock

07-23-2008, 10:23 AM

Aww.... Get better soon Shanley!

Snake lover 3-25

07-23-2008, 11:19 AM

this is the worst summer yet.... bad "luck" with snakes... work.... swim practice.... and now i'm sick!!!! grrrr!!!!!!:(:(:(

jitami

07-23-2008, 11:22 AM

Get well soon Shanley! You swim? Well, I suppose most of us do, but competitively?

Garter_Gertie

07-23-2008, 11:22 AM

I was on a swim team... Back in the dark ages. I was NEVER a distance swimmer, but a short-distance speed swimmer.

jitami

07-23-2008, 11:31 AM

cool... both of my boys do, but I never did... grew up on the cold, wet, coast and our high school didn't even have a pool. Good thing my parents were outdoor enthusiasts and took us to rivers and lakes every summer or I probably wouldn't know how to swim at all! :)

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 11:48 AM

Yuk, I hate swimming...But that might have something to do with watertemperatures never getting higher then +5 celcius here in Holland

Just found this neat little guy!
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/Nakweek%202008/DSC_0028Small.jpg

Garter_Gertie

07-23-2008, 11:50 AM

What a cute little 'thing'! What is it?

GartersRock

07-23-2008, 12:00 PM

Oooo!! I love Cresties!
I promised myself, nothing but snakes. But I think cresties will have to move in...

GartersRock

07-23-2008, 12:00 PM

It's a Crested Gecko.

drache

07-23-2008, 12:05 PM

what a pretty crested, Sjoerd
what's that large egg shaped thing next to it?
is that where it came from?
that looks impossible

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 12:15 PM

Yuk, I hate swimming...But that might have something to do with watertemperatures never getting higher then +5 celcius here in Holland
I think it's around 18-20 degrees here at the moment. :D

GartersRock

07-23-2008, 12:23 PM

Bleck! I hate really cold weather... I much prefer the extreme amount of unpredictableness here in TX. lol! :rolleyes:

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 12:29 PM

what a pretty crested, Sjoerd
what's that large egg shaped thing next to it?
is that where it came from?
that looks impossible

Yep, thats what it came from!
@ stefan; watertemperature of 20 degrees :eek:
Nice...Last time we went fishing it was 14 here...It should rise the nect couple of days...The predicted a week long 30 celcius (air temp)
but still to cold for me!

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 12:36 PM

Bleck! I hate really cold weather... I much prefer the extreme amount of unpredictableness here in TX. lol! :rolleyes:
The temperature here can vary between -50 and +40 degrees Celsius between seasons. :D

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 12:40 PM

@ stefan; watertemperature of 20 degrees :eek:
Nice...Last time we went fishing it was 14 here...It should rise the nect couple of days...The predicted a week long 30 celcius (air temp)
but still to cold for me!
I think the warmest I've experienced is 28 degrees, under natural conditions. Certain places where the water is really shallow, it can get above that.

It's the Baltic Sea, it's practically a lake. :rolleyes: A shallow lake. You're next to the Atlantic ocean. :D

jitami

07-23-2008, 12:42 PM

Aww, what a sweet baby!

Can totally undestand not enjoying swimming in cooooooold water! Brrrrrrr...

jitami

07-23-2008, 12:45 PM

Sounds perfect Stefan! Maybe even a tad too warm :)

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 12:58 PM

You're next to the Atlantic ocean
Nah, Northsea...in general not more then 30 meters deep

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 01:03 PM

Nah, Northsea...in general not more then 30 meters deep
Same difference. ;) Maybe I should have said the Gulf of Finland instead of the Baltic Sea? :D

Edit: the North sea has an average depth of 100 meters or so, the Gulf of Finland has an average depth of only 38 m. :D

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 01:05 PM

Lol
I was actually amazed when I first saw the sea at the swedish coast...So shallow! Really weird, but very pretty!

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 01:11 PM

Our coast is better than theirs. :D ;)

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 01:12 PM

Offcourse it is!
And Dutch and American people are smarter then Belgium and Candian :D

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 01:15 PM

Hey, don't mock the Canadians. They'll send their Kilted Yaksmen to get you. ;)

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 01:20 PM

http://www.tubearoo.com/m1/3516/Anthem_0001.jpg

This is what google gave me with Kilted Yaksmen

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 01:23 PM

Yeah, it's a classic Ren & Stimpy episode. :D

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 01:27 PM

I love ren and stimpy...
and pinky and the brain
and the animaniacs
The snorkels where cool...the smurfs...
Good old days...
Now its just Family guy and The simpsons that are funny
The rest is dubbed or I have outgrown them (You always want to be an adult...but when you're an adult, you just want to be a kid again...)
Man, I'm really getting old...:D

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 01:34 PM

Now its just Family guy and The simpsons that are funny
So true. South Park used to be better.

There's absolutely no shame in watching cartoons. Some of them are far more intellectually stimulating than your average show intended for an older audience.

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 01:39 PM

Yeah, south park WAS great as well
I like it when the jokes in a cartoon are 'over the limit'. Can't help it, its just my kind of humor (like the danish cartoon, if you know what I mean)
Not that is has to be insulting for a group. Even if its insulting for me, or for a group I belong to, its still funny!

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 01:49 PM

Wulffmorgenthaler?

Lori P

07-23-2008, 01:53 PM

Rhea, your new addition is beautiful. Poor poor fella... a lifetime in a 10 gallon tank.... makes me just sick. I can't wait to see him fattened up a bit-- spoil him for me!!

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 02:04 PM

Wulffmorgenthaler?

Yes!
Its over the limit (sometimes) but very funny (most of the times)

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 02:09 PM

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/20071112wulff.gif

reptileparadise

07-23-2008, 02:10 PM

Hahahaha...to funny :D
To bad most of you can't read Dutch, Gregorius Nekschot is great artist as well!

Wonderfull!
http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/striphandler.ashx?stripid=906c2a99-e7a4-483a-a2eb-2eead4e8bb40

Shhhhhh
http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/striphandler.ashx?stripid=656c268e-ff70-43a3-9e52-b4923c42e1f2

Stefan-A

07-23-2008, 02:22 PM

Gary Larson's comics (the Far Side) are pretty funny, too.

I don't have that many on my hard drive, but here's one.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/untitlede.bmp

Although, Calvin and Hobbes will always be my favourite comic.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/Monster.gif

Snake lover 3-25

07-23-2008, 02:53 PM

You swim? Well, I suppose most of us do, but competitively?

yup.... sure do unf... lol i'm a back-stroker..... but idk.... i love to swim..... but once it becomes something that you have to do you just get tired of it fast i guess.... and it doesn't help that i'm not a competative person in the least..... so it's more of a social thing for me now...... i like to meet cool people.....:D

GartersRock

07-23-2008, 03:26 PM

I LUUUUVV Calvin and Hobbes!!! The only comic I have ever really continually read. lol!

jitami

07-23-2008, 03:26 PM

Love the cartoons guys!

Shanley, very cool. My son loves it, too, but really only swims to stay in shape for water polo now. He's actually really competitive, but he just hasn't had the time to devote to swimming this summer. My younger one... well, he really enjoys hanging out with his friends in between the races :rolleyes::):D

anji1971

07-23-2008, 04:53 PM

I'm a big fan of both Calvin & Hobbes, and The Far Side!
I used to buy a Far Side desk calendar every year, and I have quite a collection of Calvin & Hobbes books. VERY funny stuff!
I don't ever plan to outgrow cartoons. I'm the one who introduces my kids to the older stuff!

infernalis

07-23-2008, 05:26 PM

Ever seen "Drawn Together"???

Its very adult and makes southpark look tamer than a chistmas classic.

crzy_kevo

07-23-2008, 05:48 PM

isn't that something like the real life only its a cartoon?

infernalis

07-23-2008, 06:46 PM

Yes it is. they put superman, Betty boop, sponge bob,Zelda, peekachu, Ariel, porky pig & a girl from Josie and the pussycats all in a house "Drawn together"

It's a "reality TV" spoof, sex, drugs, personal issues and all.

Guest appearances by veggie tales, strawberry shortcake, Micky mouse, speedy Gonzales, transformers & all.

Speedy Gonzales is a coke head, betty boop is into self mutilation, oh the rest is too rude to post here.

http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Drawn_Together/drawn_together__1_.jpg

crzy_kevo

07-23-2008, 06:54 PM

ya i have seen that a few times really funny lol :D

infernalis

07-23-2008, 09:04 PM

Got the uncensored DVD brotha! only way to watch it, no bleeps or black bars.:D:D

reptileparadise

07-24-2008, 02:23 AM

Lol, Drwan together is a great show!
I've only seen it twice though...in german...

Stefan-A

07-24-2008, 02:37 AM

I saw a couple of episodes, too (in English). Wasn't really that great in my opinion.

zooplan

07-24-2008, 05:22 AM

Never heard about it.
There might be a big difference between the English and German text versions.

reptileparadise

07-24-2008, 06:45 AM

Anyone ever seen American Dad?
Also a great show! But sadly, in German again...(due to the farmer I had to stay with for my internship)
I had like 200 or more german TV channels, two russian and a whole lot more turkish stations :D

zooplan

07-24-2008, 06:51 AM

You should only have Belgium TV where you live:D

Stefan-A

07-24-2008, 07:32 AM

Anyone ever seen American Dad?
Yeah, but it's a lot less edgy than Family Guy. Still okay, though.

infernalis

07-24-2008, 08:13 AM

Yeah, but it's a lot less edgy than Family Guy. Still okay, though.

Agreed, Family guy requires that one must pay attention, if you do and catch all the subtle hidden jokes, it's freakin hilarious:cool:

GartersRock

07-24-2008, 08:23 AM

I love movies and tv with subtle stuff... You always catch something new and hilarious everytime you watch it. :cool:

crzy_kevo

07-24-2008, 08:28 AM

i agree family guy has sooo much subtle jokes you have to pay attention especially in the newer episodes

adamanteus

07-24-2008, 08:31 AM

A nice find from this morning....

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//535/medium/2008_0724grassie0007.jpg

Found a second one but didn't get a photo.

GartersRock

07-24-2008, 08:37 AM

ooo! Is that natrix natrix??? I have always wanted one of those!

Stefan-A

07-24-2008, 08:45 AM

What the hell? I'm gone for a few minutes and suddenly there are 54 new posts? Come on.

Nice find, James. :)

anji1971

07-24-2008, 08:46 AM

Nice find, James! :cool:
Were you out on a herping expedition, or was this just one of those lucky discoveries nearby?

GartersRock

07-24-2008, 08:46 AM

Like I say! Better then a dead forum eh?

zooplan

07-24-2008, 08:47 AM

A nice find from this morning....
Found a second one but didn't get a photo.

I nice light specimen, are they all that kind at your site

drache

07-24-2008, 08:58 AM

I love the colour on that natrix

adamanteus

07-24-2008, 10:32 AM

I nice light specimen, are they all that kind at your site

No, they are quite varied at this site. The other one was rather dark and there are melanistic specimens there too, although I didn't see one today.

Stefan-A

07-24-2008, 10:36 AM

I've seen black ones, grey ones, "checkered" grey ones and even very dark brown ones in one of my best spots. Never ones without the blotches behind the head, though.

adamanteus

07-24-2008, 10:38 AM

I was actually looking for the melanistics today... better luck next time, eh?

Stefan-A

07-24-2008, 10:40 AM

Indeed. And I need to find a new spot.

larean

07-24-2008, 10:50 AM

Sorry, a bit late http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7965/jon67ld.jpg

Lori P

07-24-2008, 11:47 AM

James, very very nice snake!! Love the markings.

Chrsitaan, love that one!!!!!!

Lori P

07-24-2008, 12:03 PM

Hey guys-- anyone on here a ferret expert?? (This worked so well with the parrot questions, I just have to try again!!) We got in a ferret and I have a lot of questions. I'm reading up on them, but it's always great to talk to someone with experience in person... thanks!!!

infernalis

07-24-2008, 12:10 PM

taste like chicken:D

jitami

07-24-2008, 12:12 PM

Stefan-A

07-24-2008, 12:12 PM

taste like chicken:D
http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/01patch_slide02.jpg

:D

infernalis

07-24-2008, 12:19 PM

They eat snakes :eek:

Honestly, I have no idea if that's true or not, but they're part of the weasel family. Why wouldn't they? Regardless I've always been curious about them. Illegal to own here, but seem like they'd be a fun pet :) Busy, busy, busy, little critters!

ferrets are cool, and yes they eat snakes.

I once fell for a boa named Vader who had been left in the same enclosure with a ferrit, and survived.

Vader was messed for life by it.

The idiot who did this was trying to feed the ferrit to the boa:eek:

drache

07-24-2008, 12:26 PM

Sean always gets them and I'll probably see him later
I always go to the rescue when I run away from home

btw
here's my last non-eater

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2699326022_b41a9ea977_b.jpg

yippee - they all eat

Lori P

07-24-2008, 12:30 PM

taste like chicken:D

ROFL!!!! SO bad!!!! And yes, they do eat snakes.... :eek: And also frogs, mice, rabbits, birds... actually, they pretty much eat what our snakes eat from what I've learned in my reading!! They are total carnivores. Which is one of my questions... any reason a ferret couldn't be on a f/t mouse/bird diet?? I offered this little girl a f/t pinky last night but of course she had no clue. So I want to find out about that. The processed foods contain a lot of grains and they just don't need that.

They sure are clowns... she is a master acrobat and is constantly busy, busy, busy!!! Bounces and jumps and rolls and twists all over... and her and one of my pugs, Cooper, have bonded like mad. It's really pretty funny.

I just want to learn all about them before trying to find her a home, so I know what kind of home to look for. Right now I'm not even keeping her in a cage as she's litter box trained... and she'd been locked in a tiny, tiny rabbit cage for the last 6 months without ever coming out, so she needs to run off that energy!!

drache

07-24-2008, 12:35 PM

Sean says there's commercial ferret food, but dry kitten food will work (higher in protein than cat food)
oh - and to keep it away from your snakes

zooplan

07-24-2008, 12:42 PM

What a question for a snake site:D
Sorry, I only know them as smelly funny acrobats that are able to make a lot of work.
Do you´ll keep them indoor or outside, Lori?

Lori P

07-24-2008, 01:03 PM

Udo, she is inside in my extra bedroom. And yes, she smells funky!!! LOL I guess you get used to it after a while. I was just trying to see if anyone on here had lots of experience and wanted to pm with me about them.

Rhea, yeah, I have the ferret food... but I always like to supplement with more natural things. Thanks SO much for asking Sean for me!!

zooplan

07-24-2008, 01:12 PM

ferrets are loved pets here too, you can find specialized German HP´s for "Frettchen" and I think at all there is an association for ferret keepers as well:D

Stefan-A

07-24-2008, 01:13 PM

Ferrets are among the few non-reptilian animals I could consider keeping for purposes other than consumption.

jitami

07-24-2008, 03:18 PM

Ferrets are among the few non-reptilian animals I could consider keeping for purposes other than consumption.

It must be the smell...

:p

anji1971

07-24-2008, 07:33 PM

I had a friend in highschool who had a ferret. I vaguely remember a cream-coloured blur zipping all over the house. More energy than a roomful of 2-year-olds on sugar.

Stefan-A

07-24-2008, 09:53 PM

It must be the smell...

:p
I do NOT...

bio6464

07-25-2008, 12:04 AM

Ferrets are FUNKY!!!!!!! My cousin had a couple years ago and moved in with me for a while. I got up during the night once to get a drink...there are many things you expect to see when you open your fridge at 3am. Movement is not one of those things, stoopid animal must have snuck in earlier...lucky it wasn't a RATSICLE. :eek:
Jerry

reptileparadise

07-25-2008, 03:00 AM

lol, ferrets suck!
Doesn''t matter how sweet they are towards people, they ALWAYS bite me!
No ferrets for me...
I've actually experienced ferrets that where nipped my fingers at the same moment their owner told me they didn't bite!
But that was a belgium ferret...they hate Dutch people..