Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[enigma200316]

It wasn't meant as criticism, Justin, merely an observation! You enjoy him while you have him!



it wasn't taken as that James, I was just agreeing and say I wouldn't have to worry to much about it because it was short term..........:D

[drache]

Molly looks very professional
and is that bus' name Holly per chance?

[Lori P]

Ahhhhh.... that would explain the English driving reputation... at what age exactly do you get your driver's liscences??!!!

[reptileparadise]

at what age exactly do you get your driver's liscences??!!!

depends ...they get them with a pack of butter :D

[ssssnakeluvr]

cool....some people here get theirs in cracker jack boxes.....:eek:

[adamanteus]

She was particularly good at reversing.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//537/medium/reversing.jpg

[Snake lover 3-25]

Awwwwww i can't drive yet!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D

[Zephyr]

kingsnake.com Classifieds (http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=6&de=601419)

What kind of garter IS that?

[ssssnakeluvr]

it's a red sided garter, t s parietalis. I have caught them in southeastern Kansas. I had one that had no red at all (passed away a few years back, and a second one that Scott Felzer how has), and one that had orange instead of red.

[reptileparadise]

Almost looks like some kind of parietalis X radix hybrid...

[drache]

not necessarily
one of mine has pretty garish colour at times and looks a lot like this one, except that her red is darker

[ssssnakeluvr]

I have a pic in my computer of an orangeish one similar to that that I used to have....will have to find it and put in in here.....

[reptileparadise]

oooohhh...show us! You know we love pictures!

But for now, i'm practicing my english pronounciation...(the world meeting is creeping closer :D )
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
YouTube - Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Sing Along (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-Z0SSyUcw)

[Zephyr]

Oh boy... My parents almost killed me...
I went to a show today and brought home the only garter I could find; a medium female parietalis. Also... I saw a mixed lot of baby ball pythons for $10... I couldn't resist and picked up one. However, my parents have always told me they'd kill me if I bought a constrictor because of a bad experience with one of my old relatives. ((He had a boa and it got out once and supposedly attacked a toddler.)) So... I sorta told them it was a corn snake and that it was free. XDDD
So, I gave her, I think, a thorough look-see and found no parasites or bodily problems aside from an odd bump on her underside near the vent. I think it may be a misplaced rib or something. Do these injuries usually heal on their own?
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4396/img0573ch2.jpg
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3466/img0576ht5.jpg

[adamanteus]

Kyle, you're so lucky that your parents allow and encourage your interest in Garter Snakes. Obviously they recognise and respect your enthusiasm and growing knowledge of this genus.....
Why on earth would you go against their express wishes and buy a python, and then lie about it? The phrase that springs to mind.... 'betrayal of trust'. How will they react when the see a picture in a book, or lean over your shoulder while you're on the forum? I reckon they'll be pretty disappointed.

[Stefan-A]

I'm the last person to criticize others for bringing home animals against parents' wishes, after all, that's how I got most of the animals I kept as kid, but it's not a very smart thing to do, and James pointed out why. How are you going to explain it when they find out?

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

im not saying him lying was okay, but the bad experience with the toddler was most likely bigger than a harmless ball python and found that sometimes people will have bad experience with something then think bad of everything related to that... such as my mom was babysitting some kids when she was young and they had bb guns (the metal bbs)and were running around shooting and it took a looooong time of convincing to let her get me a harmless bb gun (plastic bullets)

Kyle, you're so lucky that your parents allow and encourage your interest in Garter Snakes. Obviously they recognise and respect your enthusiasm and growing knowledge of this genus.....
Why on earth would you go against their express wishes and buy a python, and then lie about it? The phrase that springs to mind.... 'betrayal of trust'. How will they react when the see a picture in a book, or lean over your shoulder while you're on the forum? I reckon they'll be pretty disappointed.

[Zephyr]

Kyle, you're so lucky that your parents allow and encourage your interest in Garter Snakes. Obviously they recognise and respect your enthusiasm and growing knowledge of this genus.....
Why on earth would you go against their express wishes and buy a python, and then lie about it? The phrase that springs to mind.... 'betrayal of trust'. How will they react when the see a picture in a book, or lean over your shoulder while you're on the forum? I reckon they'll be pretty disappointed.Well, I actually told them it's a ball python... and of course they've gone ballistic on me. I figure it's the same thing with the roaches; they calm down after a while. XD
I think it's because they always imagine a python as a 20 foot, rope-of muscle killing machine swallowing a pig... But when they saw that's it's only about 10 inches long and pudgy as heck they changed their minds. XD

[Zephyr]

im not saying him lying was okay, but the bad experience with the toddler was most likely bigger than a harmless ball python and found that sometimes people will have bad experience with something then think bad of everything related to that... such as my mom was babysitting some kids when she was young and they had bb guns (the metal bbs)and were running around shooting and it took a looooong time of convincing to let her get me a harmless bb gun (plastic bullets)
Yeah, it was 20 foot reticulated python that was fed one rat once a month... I wonder why it was hungry.

[reptileparadise]

I'm not going to repeat what the others said...But I'm thinking that 10 $ is a bit cheap for a ball python...Is it FB? WC?

[Zephyr]

I'm not going to repeat what the others said...But I'm thinking that 10 $ is a bit cheap for a ball python...Is it FB? WC?CB. Like I said, after checking it over I found no mites or other problems other than the odd bump, which I think may be a dislocated rib or something else.

[Snake lover 3-25]

My mom told me that i couldn't keep sooty..... or the turtle.... wonder how that went...:D:D:D:p:p:p

[Zephyr]

My mom told me that i couldn't keep sooty..... or the turtle.... wonder how that went...:D:D:D:p:p:plol
See, your parents never listen to you when you say stuff like "It's harmless" or any other information about snakes. However, they'll listen to some one who's "qualified." D<

[Snake lover 3-25]

na they just give up... after the threats to throw them out the window don't work.....and when i tell them that they are all that i have..... bc they are..... well.... what i mean when i say that... is that they are the only things that i have gotten my self, and that they have no control over them....... my sis and bro have electronics and i have snakes.... it's just how i am!!!!!!!

[Zephyr]

na they just give up... after the threats to throw them out the window don't work.....and when i tell them that they are all that i have..... bc they are..... well.... what i mean when i say that... is that they are the only things that i have gotten my self, and that they have no control over them....... my sis and bro have electronics and i have snakes.... it's just how i am!!!!!!!lol
I'm an only child. These are mah siblings. XD

[Snake lover 3-25]

i'd def rather be an only child!!!!! i'm in the middle... it SUCKS!!!!!!

[infernalis]

I was at the "Snake pub last night"

This guy had way too much to drink! I also think he was smoking some of that there hummus I keep hearing about:rolleyes:

http://www.reformedsniper.net/1/SnakeManu.jpg

[Stefan-A]

I'd like to see him try that with a pair of Echis.

[adamanteus]

Do you think those snakes actually live inside his empty head?:D

[Stefan-A]

No, that place looks pretty vacant. Condemned, in fact.

[infernalis]

Before the vipers put this guy out of the snakes misery, I think a pair of fully grown retics would be fun to see him try.

I found that one night surfin the web.

Wayne

[Stefan-A]

I think it's been posted at least once before. :)

[ssssnakeluvr]

well......last thursday I went herping with my 2 oldest daughters. we went to an area about 15 miles from home to look for horned lizards. we found 3 short horned lizards (photos to follow later...:D) somewhere on one of the roads I hit a rock or something.....didn't seem like anything big. on our way home, the oil light comes on and the car dies. we roll into a gas station. I looked under the car and saw I had knocked a hole in the oil pan and drained the oil from the engine. we got towed back home. I patched the hole and added oil....but the car wouldn't start....the engine had seized up. on top of this, it's my wife's car....:(
insurance is covering it....the engine is probably shot...its in the shop and we are driving a rental car....so, i am in the doghouse for the summer!!!!! :( hopefully the rest of the summer goes better!!!!!

[Odie]

Dang, dude :(

[anji1971]

First baby snake trouble, now car trouble?
Don, you are just NOT having good luck lately! :(
Poor you...................hope everything perks up soon.:)

[Snake lover 3-25]

man that really stinks!!!:(:(:( hope you get better luck soon!!!:)

[reptileparadise]

That sucks Don!

[Zephyr]

Hopefully my snakes will cheer you up Don. :P

[drache]

cars are a pain in the butt
too bad many of us have to depend on them
as for your cumulative misfortune - see my signature

[ssssnakeluvr]

cars are a pain in the butt
too bad many of us have to depend on them
as for your cumulative misfortune - see my signature


No kidding!!!!!! :D

[anji1971]

Had lots going on in the last month. Here are some pics!
First, we did get our new car............
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/April282008_061.jpg

We had an engagement dinner for my sister. Here is the happy couple:
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/April282008_050.jpg

And this is my husband and I at the dinner. A picture of me that I actually can tolerate.:p
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/April282008_060.JPG

And finally, we threw a retirement party for my mom.
She was surprised:
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/June_17-2008_001.jpg

This is the cake I made for her:
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/June_17-2008_006.jpg

All in all, it's been hectic, but fun!

[adamanteus]

Anji, nice looking car, nice looking cake, nice looking sibling!;)

[Snake lover 3-25]

o james......

[anji1971]

Anji, nice looking car, nice looking cake, nice looking sibling!;)

Why thank you! Although I did make the cake and help pick out the car, I can't take credit for the sibling!! But I agree, she's a real looker, my sis!;)

[adamanteus]

I can't take credit for the sibling!! But I agree, she's a real looker, my sis!;)

She looks a lot like you.:)

[anji1971]

She looks a lot like you.:)

Have I told you lately how much I like you, James?:D

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

anji you can bake me a cake any day!!!!


Kyle, hopefully your parents will realize that your little ball is not going to ever turn in to a 20 foot eating machine! $10 is a pretty average price, I paid 75 dollars total for 6 of my new BP's. That little bump doesn't look like much right now... probably just a little kink, it should work its way out eventually, just keep an eye on it. Is she eating and pooping?

[Zephyr]

anji you can bake me a cake any day!!!!


Kyle, hopefully your parents will realize that your little ball is not going to ever turn in to a 20 foot eating machine! $10 is a pretty average price, I paid 75 dollars total for 6 of my new BP's. That little bump doesn't look like much right now... probably just a little kink, it should work its way out eventually, just keep an eye on it. Is she eating and pooping?Well... I think the 2 fuzzies in her stomach count as eating... lol

[Stefan-A]

I almost bought a black pine snake (Pituophis melanoleucus lodingi) today. Almost.

[reptileparadise]

I almost bought a black pine snake (Pituophis melanoleucus lodingi) today. Almost.

And what where you planning to do with that? That thing eats mice you know...:eek:

[Stefan-A]

All my snakes eat mice. :rolleyes:

[adamanteus]

I almost bought a black pine snake (Pituophis melanoleucus lodingi) today. Almost.

I must admit, I might have been tempted too, Stefan... nice snakes.:)

[Lori P]

Anji, gorgeous cake! Wow! And your sis and her beau look quite happy!! Send them congrats from here. :-)

[anji1971]

Thanks Lori! Will do!:)

[Stefan-A]

I must admit, I might have been tempted too, Stefan... nice snakes.:)
Found the nicest little pet store just 40km away. ;) Mostly reptiles and a few rodents. Lots of cool snakes, Nerodias, black rats, Coelognathus radiatus (Elaphe radiata), two Pituophis melanoleucus subspecies, the mandatory corns, boas (Boa constrictor and Corallus hortulanus) and pythons (P. regius and Morelia spilota).. Plus the lizards, frogs, invertebrates and tortoises.

No garters, though. But that black pine snake almost got me.

[Jenlang_79]

Thanks to snakelovenbabe's beautiful pictures of her bullsnakes I just had to have one..and he is very cool..so thankyou!! I do have a question though..right now I have him in a large rubbermaid container..but I am afraid the humidity is too high for him...is there a way to lower humidity in these tubs and what humidity is safe for bullsnakes? Thanks so much!!:)

[Stefan-A]

More ventilation is the solution if you want the humidity to decrease.

[Jenlang_79]

LOL! I guess that is common sense uh...oh well..do you know how high the humidity should be...he is hanging out in his humidity hide right now also..must be about to shed...:o

[Jenlang_79]

I went to twin citie's reptiles today..that place is crazy..and spendy..almost all of there snakes were like 150 dollars and up a couple were going for 5,000..my baby bull was only 40 though..I think it was the only cheap one..but he is exactly what I wanted!:-) They are selling green anaconda's there..and they are 150 dollars..crazy.I would think they would cost more! The lady working said they can get 20 feet long...can you imagine? I think I'll stick to my six footers lol!!

[Stefan-A]

Captive born (i.e. "mom" was caught gravid), maybe? Either that, or they're cheap because it's the only way to get rid of them. Green anacondas are one of the largest species and definitely the heaviest in the world. And they're water snakes. Good luck trying to keep one of those if you're already staring at the price tag. :rolleyes:

20' is the average, they can grow to 30'.

[Jenlang_79]

Good luck trying to keep one of those if you're already staring at the price tag. :rolleyes:


LOL!! oh no..I do not want one of those..what do you feed those things..homeless children?...lol!!! Kids you better be good or mommies going to feed you to the snake..LOL!! wow I am just in a weird mood tonight!! Full of jokes..lol!!

[Stefan-A]

LOL!! oh no..I do not want one of those..what do you feed those things..homeless children?...lol!!!
I didn't mean you, I meant those people that look at the price tag and go: "Aztec corn, or green anaconda.. I'll take the anaconda, it's cheaper."

I live right next to an elementary school.. ;)

[adamanteus]

I meant those people that look at the price tag and go: "Aztec corn, or green anaconda.. I'll take the anaconda, it's cheaper."

The scary thing is, there are actually people out there who think like that!

[Stefan-A]

Not really. My experience is more with too low humidity than too high.

You could go by the climate, and if possible, the microclimate. In what kind of places would you find the species in the wild?

[Stefan-A]

The scary thing is, there are actually people out there who think like that!
Indeed there are. Sometimes it's an anaconda, other times it's a burmese. ;)

[adamanteus]

Just read this quote....:D

"Some people are like 'Slinkies'... Not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs."

Love it!

[Snake lover 3-25]

omg that is the most hilarious thing i have ever heard!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D

[drache]

I adopted again
not a garter - they're never up for adoption
but this is a very nice girl

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2593539160_6734a3e97d_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2593554732_b88220b944_b.jpg

a black rat - whatever the current scientific name - elaphe obsoleta obsoleta?

[adamanteus]

Nice animal, Rhea.:)

[Jenlang_79]

I love the whole people are like slinkies joke..great!!! Very nice snake!!

[drache]

I've never quite gotten the point of slinkies

as to the snake
I'm doing this experiment
the snake is in a tank at the bottom of a shelf right next to Jeff's kitchen table chair
I'm curious how long it'll take for him to notice it's there
I would think never or a very long time
except I let Mikhaila in on it and now she keeps hinting

[anji1971]

Rhea, I LOVE that snake. Can we time-share it? :D

[drache]

Rhea, I LOVE that snake. Can we time-share it? :D
okay
you get her over winter
her name is Shade

[anji1971]

Sure...........I get to watch her hibernate.
Thanks.........:rolleyes:

[drache]

Sure...........I get to watch her hibernate.
Thanks.........:rolleyes:
it'd be kind of difficult to get her to Canada anyhow, but you can come visit her any time

[anji1971]

Hopefully someday I can do that, Rhea!
They have a black rat snake at the reptile store here. It belongs to one of the owners, and I've always coveted it. They are gorgeous.
Congrats on the adoption!

[drache]

thanks
she caught my eye
it's kind of funny
almost all of my garters are bought
almost all of my other animals are adopted
it's dangerous, living this close to the rescue
the garters are still in the majority though

[anji1971]

It's probably safer that I don't live anywhere near a rescue..............I'd most likely have lots of nice animals, and be divorced.:rolleyes:

[GartersRock]

Thats a very, very nice black rat Rhea!

[Stefan-A]

Just read this quote....:D

"Some people are like 'Slinkies'... Not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs."

Love it!
:D

But sometimes you just want to grab a large stick and see if candy comes out of them.

[Stefan-A]

Very nice black rat, Rhea. :) Pantherophis obsoletus.

[Scaley.Jade]

looks like im getting another corn soon :D
sorry just thought id share that as im excited

[drache]

a new snake is a good reason to get excited

[Loren]

That first black rat pic is awesome- something about it is really neat.

[drache]

they're both the same
she's a very cool snake
interestingly, both Sean and I assumed she was a male
Sean ended up probing her several times before he changed his mind
how do we make these assumptions?
is it based on looks or vibes?
I'm sure most of us do it sometimes

[Lori P]

Rhea, she is beautiful! Congrats! How is the blue ribbon snake????

I kept meaning to tell you guys this, and you reminded me. One of my friends who lives on the York river has been INUNDATED this year with black rat snakes. I mean, you can literally stand in her yard and every few minutes see one move. They are in the rafters in her barn!!! She has been furious because they've eaten all her barn swallows, which she babies. Unfortunately, I keep forgetting to bring my camera over there (she's close to where I work, not where I live so I've been stopping by on the way home from work).

She said they've never had so many before. Wonder what that's all about???

[infernalis]

whenever conditions favor, population bursts are common.

Once they have wiped out all the food supply, they will either move on or pass on.

Nature works in cycles, one harsh winter will wipe out a huge number of snakes, the food source now has very little predation, so the food prey will have a population explosion.

Then the surviving snakes will produce litters, with all that food the babies have no competition for food, so the mortality rate for the babies will go down, allowing the population to explode.

The snakes will wipe out all the food, and then the cycle can repeat.

[GartersRock]

Lori! Just remind her that some of us here WISH we could find hot spots like that and would have a ball! lol! Lucky...

But Wayne certainly has a point.

Just thought I would offically share since I cant seem to get around to posting photo threads.. *rolls eyes*
In two weeks I've gotten:
2.3 Wandering Garters, 3 are possible hets fer hypermelanistic with a bolder checkered pattern and yellow stripe, 1 is the same but not poss het, and one is that reduced pattern steel grey girl I posted.
0.1 Female Checkered A very nice one at that!
0.1 Oregon Red Spotted
1.1 Asian Vine Snakes, Aheatulla Nasuta, rear fanged, skinny little binoculer eyed, cool little snakies. =)
1.1 Redstripe Ribbons. Gorgeous CUTE guys. =)
And I 'aint stoppin there! lol!
I will be purchasing 0.3 Adult Female Puget Sounds to go with my male, and hopefully 1.1 of those cute little flame babies. =)
And I am still looking for 0.1 Western Ribbon and 1.0 Oregon Red Spotted. *hint hint* =D
But I am just super excited because I am finally in the position where I can do this breeder thing. lol!
Right now I have I think... 3 gravid garters? Two wanderings and a checkered? Just waiting "patiently". lol!

[drache]

Rhea, she is beautiful! Congrats! How is the blue ribbon snake????


And I am still looking for 0.1 Western Ribbon and 1.0 Oregon Red Spotted. *hint hint* =D
that blue ribbon is doing great so far - hasn't eaten yet - probably not a good breeder option though because of the kink in the lower spine
I do have an '07 male oregon red spot available
he eats f/t fish and once recently expressed vague interest in a pinky

[adamanteus]

Okay.. it's midnight here.. I have a choice, go to bed, or turn into a pumpkin....
Night guys!:D

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

what would you do on a 5 hour trip in a cramped vehicle?

take this picture.

http://a705.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/19/l_49cab53cfaf7a8415410ede0825cb388.jpg

my little brothers are to the left and my cousin is right behind me.

I thought it was cute and randomly decided to share it :)

[ssssnakeluvr]

go crazy...... I have done that many times!!! taking my 4 kids and wife on vacations....cramped van...fun times!!!!!!

[count dewclaw]

Looks like some of our vacations!

[adamanteus]

Some of you will know that over the past couple of weeks I've been searching for 'The Mythical Beast' Vipera berus (Adder). Well, today I got one!

I went to a known Adder site in North Wales, in the company of the North Wales reptile and amphibian 'recorder'. The weather was all wrong, very high winds, a bit too cool, occassional drizzle. But despite all this we found 0.1 Vipera berus (gravid and full of food), 0.5 Zootica vivipara and 0.0.4 Bufo bufo... Result!

The Adder photo is utter rubbish as I only had a brief moment to fire off one shot before she moved away into the undergrowth (I didn't want to stress her in her 'condition')... but I'm posting it anyway!:D

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/adamanteus_bucket/Garter%20Snake%20Photos/Misc/Adder-1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/adamanteus_bucket/Garter%20Snake%20Photos/Misc/Zootica.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/adamanteus_bucket/Garter%20Snake%20Photos/Misc/Bufo.jpg

[reptileparadise]

Very cool James!
And wow...she's a fatty!

[Stefan-A]

Looks like she's about to burst. :D And that Zootoca is just beautiful. :) Very nice, James.

[reptileparadise]

oh damn!
After a 5 month and 3 day wait...
C. calyptratus!
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/DSC_0017Small.jpg

[adamanteus]

Damn!:( Sorry.

[count dewclaw]

Sorry.:( Were there any that hatched?

[reptileparadise]

They've slit open 10 eggs so far (the first one yesterday) and 6 more eggs are sweating right now :D
Strange thing is... The other egg container is showing no signs of hatching at all :O They must have been a bit colder then...


Lol...you're taking the opening "Oh damn" to litteraly! (thats spelled the wrong way...)

[adamanteus]

Oh right! I thought you were showing us failed eggs! Good news then.:D

[count dewclaw]

Oh, so that was an excited "oh damn" not a sad one! Is that right?

[reptileparadise]

Its an very excited "Oh damn"!
Most of my eggs hatch in about 60 or 70 days.. more then 5 months is long...very long!

[count dewclaw]

Well in that case, a big congratulations to you! You will, of course, have to take pictures of the neonates with that new camera of yours.

[adamanteus]

Can't wait to see the babies, Sjoerd.

[reptileparadise]

Me neither!
The first one slit his/her egg yesterday. So far, no one has come out yet...
They should sell yemens with a warning...patience required

[Stefan-A]

Oh right! I thought you were showing us failed eggs! Good news then.:D
Yeah, you had me confused there for a moment. :D I was looking for signs of complete and utter failure. :rolleyes:

Congratulations in advance, Sjoerd. :)

[count dewclaw]

They've slit open 10 eggs so far (the first one yesterday) and 6 more eggs are sweating right now :D
Strange thing is... The other egg container is showing no signs of hatching at all :O They must have been a bit colder then...


How many eggs were in the clutch? As I recall, they have fairly large clutches.

[reptileparadise]

Yeah, they can have clutches with up to 90 eggs!
She 'only' laid 32 viable eggs...

9 chameleons out now! I've taken a bunch of pictures, but I'm lacking time to post them...Will do tonight

[drache]

congrats, Sjoerd
I think currently the way to say damn in a happy way is "hot damn!!!"

[count dewclaw]

Congratulations, can't wait to see the little ones.

[anji1971]

Congrats, Sjoerd!:)
That's happy news however you say it!!;)

[reptileparadise]

woohoo! "Hot damn" they are cool!
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/heerlijkwakkerwordenzoSmall.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/kamkoperuitSmall.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/heerlijkSmall.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/minuutoudSmall.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/reptile-paradise/watmoetjeSmall.jpg

[Lori P]

Oh, how tiny and adorable!!!!!! That last little one looking up at you... toooooooo cute!!!!!

[reptileparadise]

That last little one looking up at you... toooooooo cute!!!!!

Thanks...It had to look up 5,5 meters or so! :D

[Sid]

Congrats, Sjoerd!:) They all look really great!

[infernalis]

have a cigar!!:D

[reptileparadise]

Lol, thanks...but we smoke other things here in Holland :D

[anji1971]

They're just precious little critters!
Wish I lived over there so I could have one, and smoke some of that "other stuff" with you!:D

[count dewclaw]

woohoo! "Hot damn" they are cool!


Now that language I understand! :D They are indeed very cool!

[adamanteus]

Sjoerd, they are gorgeous!:)

[Stefan-A]

Congratulations, again. :) They look great.

[GartersRock]

Omg! Cute!!! =d

[drache]

woah - they are sweet
yeah, skip the cigar
I'd smoke some of the other stuff and then watch them for a long long time

[Snake lover 3-25]

OMG!!!!!! how cute!!!!!!! i want one????? how large of a cage does a full grown one have to have???:D

[drache]

Mikhaila wanted me to let you know that the rat snake bit her
I wasn't there when it happened, so I have no idea what spooked the snake
the bite marks look impressive and Mikhaila is quite proud of it
sorry - no pics; maybe tomorrow

[MoJo]

Sjoerd those babies are adorable!

[enigma200316]

well guys just wanted to give a little update on my similis, I started out with 4 babies and over the months I lost 2, which were noted at those times......but the 2 I have left seem to be doing great and I'm pretty sure I have a pair here........so I do believe they will be ready to mate next season, so as long as everything go well I'll have some babies next year...
just wanted to give an update on them and pics will follow soon.....;):D

[adamanteus]

Fingers crossed for nextyear then, Justin. I'm also hoping that next year will be a productive one for me.
Let's see those pictures!:D

[Lulu Bennett]

Some of you will know that over the past couple of weeks I've been searching for 'The Mythical Beast' Vipera berus (Adder). Well, today I got one!

I went to a known Adder site in North Wales, in the company of the North Wales reptile and amphibian 'recorder'. The weather was all wrong, very high winds, a bit too cool, occassional drizzle. But despite all this we found 0.1 Vipera berus (gravid and full of food), 0.5 Zootica vivipara and 0.0.4 Bufo bufo... Result!

The Adder photo is utter rubbish as I only had a brief moment to fire off one shot before she moved away into the undergrowth (I didn't want to stress her in her 'condition')... but I'm posting it anyway!:D

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/adamanteus_bucket/Garter%20Snake%20Photos/Misc/Adder-1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/adamanteus_bucket/Garter%20Snake%20Photos/Misc/Zootica.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/adamanteus_bucket/Garter%20Snake%20Photos/Misc/Bufo.jpg
Congratulations James. :D
Hopefully we will find some this weekend xxx

[adamanteus]

Thanks Lou. XX
See you Friday!:Dhttp://www.reptileforums.co.uk/images/smilies/smileys/beer8.bmp

[jeanette]

dont know wether its been noticed but i havent been around much this past 2 weeks, i dont know wether i will be able to make it for the weekend as im waiting to find out if my mums cancer has come back.
sorry if im letting anyone down.

[adamanteus]

Jeanette, you obviously have more important things on your mind!
Fingers crossed for you and your Mum.

[Snake lover 3-25]

o that's so sad.... i hope she is clear....:(

[jeanette]

Thanks guys its really appreciated. we all thought she was fine she has gone 2 years since her last operation clear and now.......... well you can guess :(. who knows i keep hoping its just a false alarm.

[Lori P]

Sending you and your mom {{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}} from here Jeanette.

[jeanette]

thanks so much, im feeling really stupid now......because im crying. i lost my dad through cancer in 2000. cant go through it again

[count dewclaw]

No reason to feel stupid! Of course you should be crying. It shows you love your mum. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Hope it is a false alarm.

[anji1971]

Oh God, I hope everything turns out all right! Cancer is an evil disease. I lost my father to it too.
Hoping and praying for your mom.............

[Snake lover 3-25]

Man...... so sorry to you both....... and it's okay to cry..... (((hugs)))

[reptileparadise]

Absolutely nothing to feel stupid about!
I wish you and you're mother all the best in the world! Cancer is an evil desease!

[jitami]

Jeanette, I'm so sorry to hear about this recent scare. Hopefully that's all it will turn out to be. I'll keep you and your mom in my thoughts and prayers. (((Hugs)))

[Sid]

Jeanette, I lost my dad to cancer in 2002, heart breaking. My thought and prayers are with both you and you mom

[Stefan-A]

dont know wether its been noticed but i havent been around much this past 2 weeks, i dont know wether i will be able to make it for the weekend as im waiting to find out if my mums cancer has come back.
sorry if im letting anyone down.
I'm sorry to hear that. :( If there was something useful I could do, I'd do it.

[jeanette]

Thanks so much to all of you, you have been so very kind.
i am hoping and praying that it is just a scare, the last operation took a lot out of my mum and it took a full year for her to recover from it.
cancer is such an evil disease and so very aggressive. the kind my mum has comes from a rare form of inherited polypsis, the polyps grow through the entire length of her intestine and colon, they also grow in her windpipe. all the women in our family have the polypsis, the doctors just dont know what it is that triggers them to go cancerous :mad:.

just bear in mind everyone that life is very precious and never take your health for granted.

[drache]

Jeanette
I hope it's just a scare and your mum will be totally fine
my mother died of cancer and it was very hard at the end
I wish you the best possible outcome

[Lumpy]

Hey fellow bass player!

Lump

[adamanteus]

Right guys, I'm off to bed... and then from tomorrow I'm away on the UK meeting until Sunday.
I guess it will be Sunday evening or maybe Monday morning before I'm back on line...
Be nice to each other, okay? Don't give me 3,000 posts to read when I get back! Later.:D

[Elliot]

Have fun James.

[Garter_Gertie]

Drums are better.

[ssssnakeluvr]

I'm famous here for picking up a bass guitar!!!!!! :cool:

a couple years ago my brother came out for a visit. we walked to a nearby store. on the way back I found a bass guitar on the parking strip along the street near my apartment. I grabbed it and took it home. there was a little damage to the body, couldn't hook up an amp. but the rest was ok. the next night the news reported a murder a block down the street from where I lived. they said a man was beaten to death cuz a friend didn't like the price he was being charged for a little bag of weed. we didn't hear what the weapon was. a week later, while my wife was working as a dispatcher for the sheriff's office she heard the murder weapon was a guitar. she called the city detective. they caught the guy and he confessed, but they didn't have the murder weapon. she said "do you want it?" it was sitting in my living room!!!!! we turned it over to the detectives that night!! I had no idea it was a murder weapon, there was no blood on it! now I am banned from picking anything up off the side fo the road unless it is work related or a live reptile!!! :eek:

[gregmonsta]

Hey fellow bass player!

Lump

Bass is ace

(I'm a poet and I dinae even ken :D )

My pointy bass would make the perfect murder instrument rofl

[Lumpy]

Mine are more roundy!

http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/27647/2899668740065220144S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2899668740065220144ubJxRU)

Lump

[GartersRock]

I play bass!! =D

[Lumpy]

Hmm, correlation? Bass player = Snake owner?

..and the ladies just thought we stood there laying down the low end and looking good! Still waters run deep!

Lump

[punky_jen]

Hiya everyone, what are you all up to today?

[Stefan-A]

Supposed to be working. ;)

[punky_jen]

lol tut tut naughty.

I have an interview today :)

And am rescuing a florida king snake later on today, the owner doens't even have heat in the viv for it grrrr.

[Stefan-A]

Well, good luck with that interview and the florida king snake. :)

[punky_jen]

Thanks :)

what do you do for a job?

[Stefan-A]

It's just a summer job, I work for a municipal environmental protection department.

[gregmonsta]

It makes sense now!!! We are atuned to the low end vibes .... just like snakes :D ... we're are indeed the ultimate snake keepers muhahahahahaha!!!

[infernalis]

Oh Bass, My heroes... Tony Levin, Les Claypool, Chris Squire, Getty Lee, Mike Rutherford (1971-1979), Stu Hamm, Jeff Berlin.......

To name a few....

[Lumpy]

Don't forget Sir Paul, Donald "Duck" Dunn and Jammer Jameson!

Lump

[infernalis]

I am lost, just before I typed this, Gertie had said "I like drums better" am I hallucinating?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now envision this Gertie, A drummer and a bass player NEED each other.

Well, Ok if you like rock music anyways.....

If you have ever been to a concert, the Bassist and drummer need to be in tune with one another.

Their mistakes are the ones that will get noticed first.

As classic bands age, I have seen vocalists forget the words to songs THEY wrote, but if a bass player, or drummer loses place in a song, it gets noticed real quickly by everyone!

Even master drummer Phil Collins will occasionally break a stick, he's fast, he can grab another, but not before the interruption is noticed.

Guitar players can snap a string, and get away with it, a bass player on the other hand......

Back to the classic bands, look close on stage whenever there is a concert on PBS, Pink Floyd, Moody Blues, etc.. all have some very young bass players and drummers hired on to help out.

[Stefan-A]

Goddamn incompetent m.....****ers.

According to the news, the city's water supply has been contaminated by coliform bacteria and they've known about it since ****ing sunday.

Does anybody here happen to know what effect E. coli, for example, can have on snakes?



ps. :mad:

[Lori P]

Good heavens!!! Sorry to hear that Stefan, that's insane... well, if the snakes' digestive systems are in good health and they have a good bacterial balance, maybe their own bodies will fight off the e coli... if they were any other animal I'd say load them up with probiotics, but I'm not sure how to do that with a snake... keep us posted.

[el lobo]

Umm..yeah. I don't play bass, actually. But I play acoustic guitar!!! and trumpet! Huzzah!! Wow James...you are almost exactly how I pictured you...about fifty?? right? ripped, and hard-core looking haha. You look like brian jacques without the big white beard!

Ok, I will post a picture.

[Elliot]

It makes sense now!!! We are atuned to the low end vibes .... just like snakes :D ... we're are indeed the ultimate snake keepers muhahahahahaha!!!

I play bari and tenor sax, does that count as low end vibes? :rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

Does anybody here happen to know what effect E. coli, for example, can have on snakes?
^Not a rhetorical question.

[anji1971]

I don't know about the snakes, but I've seen what it can do to people!! That happened in a town a few hours from us a couple summers ago. Made a lot of people very ill. And pissed, when they found out it was known and not shared with the public right away.

Do you think it's possible that the snakes would be able to fight it off better than us? I'm wondering, because in the wild they drink water from ponds, puddles and god-knows-what, and I'm sure there must be all kinds of bacteria in some of those water sources. Maybe their digestive systems would be able to handle it better?
Then again, being captive born, maybe not. Sorry, guess I'm not much help am I??:o

[Stefan-A]

I have no idea. Apparently people haven't been getting sick (yet), so it doesn't seem to be that serious, but I'm not taking any chances with my snakes.

But I would like to know a bit sooner when things like this happen.

[anji1971]

I don't blame you! I'd be immediately using bottled spring water for the snakes and myself!

And "yet" is the operative word when it comes to people getting sick. In my opinion, any e. coli in the water system is too much!

[Stefan-A]

So far, they suspected coliform bacteria, not E. coli specifically. It could be practically harmless, deadly serious or anything in between.

[anji1971]

Ahhh. I'm sure that's great comfort for those who've been drinking the stuff!;)

[anji1971]

My trip out east has been cancelled.:mad::(:mad:
Finished. Kaput. End of Story.
"NO EAST COAST FOR YOU!"

My husband works in the tool and mold industry, which is an extremely crappy industry to be in right now around here. The company has been having a rough time, and they've had to make some major cutbacks -- salaries, benefits etc.
They're working with a skeleton crew of employees right now, and he's been informed that they just can't spare him for more than a week. Sooooooooooooo.......
Looks like we're going to have to look at some alternative plans. We'll make do and have fun, but it really sucks after over a year of planning.:(

[Lori P]

Oh man! I'm so so sorry to hear this. Where were you going to go??

[jitami]

Aw, sorry Anji... that really sucks...

[drache]

oh Anji, what a bummer
I'm so sorry

[Lori P]

Sniff... I kinda miss James... sigh. But don't anyone tell him!!

[anji1971]

It's okay Lori,
I miss him too!
I won't tell him if you don't..........;)

[reptileparadise]

shhhhhh....

[anji1971]

HELP!!!!! I'VE BEEN TRAUMATIZED! NEED THERAPY FOR YEARS! AAAAAAGGGGGHHHH!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Okay, so maybe I'm getting a bit dramatic there, but really, I've had the most horrible experience.
For the first time in several years, I went ***swimsuit shopping***. I must now face a startling reality...........
I'm getting old. Swimsuits don't look good on getting old people. My workouts only work on size, not spider veins. This is very disconcerting. And my husband thinks it's funny.:mad: I'm not sure whether or not I should have married him, think a plastic surgeon would be more beneficial now.
I did actually find a swimsuit, but it had better last a long time, 'cause I'm never ever going through that again! Must go drink now.:D

[Lori P]

ROFL... Girl, Hell will burst forth into song and messages of love and peace before I go bathing suit shopping ever again. Don't you know you're supposed to drink heavily BEFORE you go??

Why they have such bright lights in women's dressing rooms is beyond me. I say, shut down all the power, light a candle 3 stores over and I'll feel my way into the dressing room to try on that suit...

[anji1971]

Drink before you go???
Crap..........no wonder! :eek:
They all would have looked fabulous had I done that!

[drache]

it's a good thing I get sunburned then
hanging out in a swimsuit is out for me anyway - they're strictly for swimming

here's my story of the day:
my brother and his wife are visiting from germany
they're staying at a hotel because they know me a little
but they did come to our house today
he pointed out that I'd have so much more space in the living room, if I didn't have so many reptile cages in it
of course I enthusiastically agreed with him
and then in my mind I wondered what I would do with all that space - probably fill it with reptile cages
what do other people do with their living rooms?
some more space for books would be kind of nice, but other than that . . .
I guess other people have coffee tables and entertainment centers

[infernalis]

""I guess other people have coffee tables and entertainment centers""

With reptile cages on them:D:D:D

[drache]

so far I haven't been to anyone's house with prominent reptile displays in the living room
I'm trying to think what people do have in their living rooms, and I can't say that it's anything of much interest to me, except the occasional book shelf

[infernalis]

Welcome, now you have:)

http://www.reformedsniper.net/2/1tv.jpg

and as I turn to the right about 40 degrees... The centre island between the dining room and living room, there is actually 5 tanks packed together on that island.
http://www.reformedsniper.net/2/1sofa.jpg

And if I ever see my dream, I want to enclose one whole corner of the living room with glass, we have 2 large sliding glass doors (surplus) I am going to remove the panels, and frame up a "Jungle room" to fill up with tall plants like mini trees, and let my Asian snakes have it.

I think it would be pleasant to see a miniature jungle, waterfalls and all in the corner of the living room. With Limon sitting on his limb:)

[drache]

yeah
I have fantasies like that
inching forward in my own little way
in about a month I may post photos of my living room

[Lori P]

Ok Rhea, only for you would I post pics of my house on the internet. LOL And ONE WORD from anyone about the dust, and I come and take your garters!! I live with 15 dogs and I leave my doors open 90% of the year... so yeah, it's gritty. Deal. LOL

Straight in the front door-- Harry and Hedwig's (hoggies) home on top, fire bellied on bottom.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Living_room_front_door.jpg

Turn right-- garter's home.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Living_room_to_the_right.jpg

Corner-- ball's home and Tatiana's tank on top of the bookcase.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Living_room_corner.jpg

In front of the fireplace (which we don't use due to chimney damage, and which one of these days, we'll fix, lol)-- Desdemona's home and Eddie Lizzard's home on the desk.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Living_room_fireplace.jpg

So yeah, my living room is pretty overtaken too. :-)

[Lori P]

Wayne, I'm with you on the rainforest in the living room... how awesome would that be!!!!

[Sputnik]

It was a wonderful weekend and I was going to tell you a bit about it and post pictures but we've come back to some terrible news... One of our cats, Milka had been hit by a car this morning and died. :(

[anji1971]

OH, I'm so sorry to hear about your cat, Esther.:(
How terrible to come home to that. Hugs to you and your family........

[Stefan-A]

Sorry about your loss, Esther. :(

[anji1971]

Rhea, I think those "other people" who have space in their living rooms are not reptile people. Looks like most of us have living rooms full of tanks and critters!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

unless you are me and you jsut have a whole SNAKE ROOM complete with sealed off doors wall cages snake racks and a higher temperature range than the rest of the house :O

Whenever me and eddie get our own place, we are most likely going to dedicate my hobby to a finished (carpeted, painted, lighted, etc) basement... because that will give me the room I want to build a cage for my future male albino green burmese python which I simply have decided I must own some day.

[drache]

oh Esther
I'm so sorry about the loss of your cat
what awful news to come home to

[adamanteus]

Sorry to hear this, Esther. What a lousy conclusion to the weekend.:(

[Lori P]

Oh Esther, I'm so sorry. {{{HUGS}}}

[reptileparadise]

Very sorry to hear about you're cat Esther...that really sucks!

[Spiritwolf]

Don't let JC hear you say it's too quiet. She will think of some way to stir up some excitement here to make up for it!

[Garter_Gertie]

Percussion. "A drummer is a guatarist's best friend."

Percussion. Only way to go.

[Lumpy]

Actually, a guitarist is his own best friend!

Bassists and drummers feed off each other.

I haven't figured out keyboardists yet...

Lump

[Loren]

I think almost any instrument can do an awesome stand-alone solo if you know how to play the daylights out of it.

I stand alone and play guitar all the time. To bad no ones there to hear it. :)

[Lumpy]

Gertie,

What do you call someone who hangs out with musicians?.............. A drummer!


:D Just goofin' on you

Lump

[Sputnik]

Thank you everybody. It really does suck! Whoever thought of this stupid pleasure/pain balance?
My youngest went for a week's residential trip to Wales this morning, it was so hard for him to go and now he's been on the bus for an hour I just want to run after it and give him a cuddle.





(Thank you for moving this, James. I didn't really want to taint our lovely weekend thread, but I couldn't think straight last night)

[drache]

Lori
thanks for those pics
there is a familiar atmosphere . . .

[Sputnik]

It's a beautiful room, Lori! I bet your visitors just want to come in and watch the snakes all day.


Just wanted to share a picture of my lovely Milka with you here, if that's ok.
She's the little tiger on the left. She was having a cuddle with her older daughter, Rosina, while she was in labour with the next set of siblings. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/MrsSputnik/milkaandrosina.jpg

[Garter_Gertie]

Ha! Ha! Ha! :D

Yeah, I'd heard that one, too.

[Lori P]

Oooh, that is SUCH a sweet kitty pic!!! Love it. :-)

[MoJo]

Esther,

I am so sorry for the loss of your cat. She was a beauty. I hope you still have some of her babies so that her legacy lives on with you.

[drache]

you know what totally sucks about having so many critters/?
I can't just run away from home, and today I really want to

[Lori P]

ROFL--- oh, heavens, I feel your pain. Maybe we should be able to switch homes... you run to mine, I'll run to yours. I could use a weekend in NYC for a change of pace. :-)

[drache]

ROFL--- oh, heavens, I feel your pain. Maybe we should be able to switch homes... you run to mine, I'll run to yours. I could use a weekend in NYC for a change of pace. :-)
that sounds fantastic
as as it turns out - I actually do know how to take care of horses, sheep, geese, and chickens, so some goats and turkeys are probably not too much of a stretch
but my house comes with pesky humans

[Lori P]

Oh. Ah... yeah, I don't do humans. Annoying beasts, they are. Foul, too. I'd get rid of those as soon as possible, Rhea. :eek: :D:D

[drache]

Oh. Ah... yeah, I don't do humans. Annoying beasts, they are. Foul, too. I'd get rid of those as soon as possible, Rhea. :eek: :D:D
they just left for the day and the urge to run away went with them

[Sputnik]

Esther,

I am so sorry for the loss of your cat. She was a beauty. I hope you still have some of her babies so that her legacy lives on with you.

Yes, we do. Rosina, who's also in the picture, still lives with us and since January we also have one of Milka's grandsons, Janosch. It's lovely to think there's still a little bit of her living on. :)



Rhea, you poor thing! Having unpleasant house guests is not nice. How long will you have to put up with them?

[Lulu Bennett]

awwww, Ester. my heart goes out to you for your loss.
What a dredful end to such a lovely weekend.
I do appologise about my behavour on the last night though. i was teribly tired, as you know, james had me up awfully early on saturday morning and i really killed me lol.

[Sputnik]

I don't think you have anything to apologize for, Lulu. You didn't do or say anything wrong at all?! Maybe it's this thing that often happens when you meet new people, that you get super conscious of the things you said. I had a couple of moments like that myself, so lets just be assured that noone thought badly of anyone. :)

And thank you again for all your kind words. It's not easy not to feel you're being punished for having had a nice time, but I've had some invaluable support and it's made a sad situation much easier to cope with. You are good people! :)

[adamanteus]

I do appologise about my behavour on the last night though.

You didn't do anything!? You were sleepy and went to bed... no crime in that, Lulu!:D

[Sputnik]

Absolutely not! We were so so tired ourselves, it was a case of head hitting pillow... (or sleeping mat,lol).

[adamanteus]

Look what some lucky bugger found today.... only 60 miles from where I'm sitting now!

http://www.herpetofauna.co.uk/forum/uploads/timhamlett/2008-07-02_150013_grassie5.jpg

Mmmm..... Am I very busy tomorrow?:rolleyes::D

[Snake lover 3-25]

omg!!!!! wow!!!!:D:D

[Zephyr]

Melenistic grass snake? Now I think James is mad...

[crzy_kevo]

ya i think so too

[Snake lover 3-25]

it isn't a garter????

[adamanteus]

Melanistic Grass Snake, Natrix natrix helvetica.

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow they look alot like garters!!!!:eek:

[adamanteus]

They live a lot like Garters too, Shanley.

[Stefan-A]

Lucky bugger indeed..

[Snake lover 3-25]

They live a lot like Garters too, Shanley.


then why don't you collect those????:rolleyes:

[adamanteus]

He's given me the exact location!:D:D

[adamanteus]

then why don't you collect those????:rolleyes:

Because my interest is Thamnophis. I've had them in the past, but never a melanistic example.

[Snake lover 3-25]

ooooo:D:D:D

[Snake lover 3-25]

they don't have as many colors as garters.... they're all brown black and colors inbetween.....:D

[Zephyr]

I'm interested. :D

[Lulu Bennett]

wow James. where?? i want to go!!!
you have to get pics James, lots and lots of pics ooooooooo!

[Snake lover 3-25]

aww my bro just found a yearling... it was cute... and going into shed... but i'm not putting another in my house till i find baby!!!:(:mad:

[Garter_Gertie]

Melanistic Grass Snake, Natrix natrix helvetica.

I like the way that rolls off the tongue. Cool name.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Look what some lucky bugger found today.... only 60 miles from where I'm sitting now!

http://www.herpetofauna.co.uk/forum/uploads/timhamlett/2008-07-02_150013_grassie5.jpg

Mmmm..... Am I very busy tomorrow?:rolleyes::D

thats friggin sweet!!!!! and on my want list!!!!!

[drache]

are you getting any, Don?
I remember you were working on something

[anji1971]

Nice snake! Good luck, James............hope you find several!

[ssssnakeluvr]

are you getting any, Don?
I remember you were working on something
well...working on the natrix natrix...but any of the natrix species from over there would be welcomed to my collection!!!!!!! :cool:

[jeanette]

wow james thats gorgeous, ive never heard of them being found in the wild. let me know if you catch any.

[adamanteus]

If I find one, don't worry, I'll let the forum know... with a million photos! I won't catch it... well maybe for the photos.... but then I'll let it go.

BTW Jeanette..... great news that your Mum got the all clear!:)

[jeanette]

If I find one, don't worry, I'll let the forum know... with a million photos! I won't catch it... well maybe for the photos.... but then I'll let it go.

BTW Jeanette..... great news that your Mum got the all clear!:)
thanks james :):):). im on cloud nine atm with the news. wish i had the energy to party :D.

[reptileparadise]

Thats great news Jeannette!

But why is this topic called "its oh so quiet?"
I'm gone for a day and have over 400 unread posts :D

[Stefan-A]

Depending on the weather, which hasn't been all that great lately, I might go herping tomorrow. Found a spot last winter, that seems pretty likely to have adders and extremely likely to have dens.

[anji1971]

Jeannette,
I'm so relieved to hear the good news about your mother. That's wonderful!!