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anji1971
05-07-2008, 01:30 PM
Then maybe you ought to replace the Coke with more milk?;)

enigma200316
05-07-2008, 01:31 PM
I had more dairy and veggies in there yesterday, don't know what happened to it. :D

Seriously, I drink at least a litre of milk a day. :)

I use to drink that much milk, but not any more..............;)

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 01:32 PM
Then maybe you ought to replace the Coke with more milk?;)
Too many calories. :D

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 01:32 PM
The only thing I drink in any quantity is grape juice.:rolleyes:

enigma200316
05-07-2008, 01:34 PM
I'm an apple juice person or apple cider whichever maybe both, they mix well with certain things if ya get me...........;);):D

anji1971
05-07-2008, 01:35 PM
Too many calories. :D

Are you drinking sugar-free Coke? You know the crap they use to sweeten that is far worse than extra calories, and it's bad for your liver and kidneys too..........
Oh-Oh. I'm starting to sound like a mom. Shutting up now.:rolleyes:

anji1971
05-07-2008, 01:36 PM
The only thing I drink in any quantity is grape juice.:rolleyes:

I like my tea. Several litres a day, with lots of milk. And the occasional glass of white Zinfandel to shake things up a bit!;)

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 01:37 PM
I like my grape juice deep red and about 14%

anji1971
05-07-2008, 01:39 PM
I like my grape juice deep red and about 14%

Mine's pale pink and only about 11%.......... still good though, still good.

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 01:40 PM
Are you drinking sugar-free Coke? You know the crap they use to sweeten that is far worse than extra calories, and it's bad for your liver and kidneys too..........
Oh-Oh. I'm starting to sound like a mom. Shutting up now.:rolleyes:
I'm already fat enough and I'm not a huge fan of diabetes. Besides, you have two kidneys and you can always get a new liver. :D

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 01:46 PM
Stefan, aren't you glad that you showed us the contents of your fridge!?:rolleyes:

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 01:48 PM
Stefan, aren't you glad that you showed us the contents of your fridge!?:rolleyes:
Actually, this is exactly what I expected. :) I don't have my snakes with me and I was bored out of my mind. :D

Why do you think I posted a picture of my Death Fridge™ in the first place? :D

enigma200316
05-07-2008, 01:50 PM
hahahaha................to funny guys to funny:D

anji1971
05-07-2008, 01:54 PM
Actually, this is exactly what I expected. :) I don't have my snakes with me and I was bored out of my mind. :D

Why do you think I posted a picture of my Death Fridge™ in the first place? :D

So what are you going to show us next time you're bored???:D

enigma200316
05-07-2008, 01:57 PM
So what are you going to show us next time you're bored???:D


watch out it might be his other snake collection........:rolleyes:;);):D

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 02:04 PM
watch out it might be his other snake collection........:rolleyes:;);):D
Oh, you mean my collection of ball pythons and bush vipers?

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 02:05 PM
So what are you going to show us next time you're bored???:D
Who knows. Maybe my dead animal photo collection. ;)

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 02:06 PM
The worrying thing is, I know you're not joking!:eek:

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 02:09 PM
The worrying thing is, I know you're not joking!:eek:
Maybe I am, maybe I'm not. You never know.

Hell, I don't even know yet. If I find it funny enough it, I might do it even if I was joking when I said it.

Snake lover 3-25
05-07-2008, 02:19 PM
i have a canon power shot S2 IS (Or is it 1S):D:D:D:D:D and i FINALLY got batteries!!!!!

Snake lover 3-25
05-07-2008, 03:06 PM
this is my fridge......
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Picture_1171.jpg
my pantry.... bad pic sorry... it's sideways......
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Picture_119.jpg
and this is where i keep MY snake food!!!..........
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Picture_118.jpg

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 03:22 PM
Now I've taken five different Myers-Briggs personality tests, with four different results. Apparently, I'm a mix of INFJ, INTJ (x2), INTP and ISTP. :rolleyes: Personally, I think INTJ is closest to the truth.

Myers-Briggs Type Indicator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs)

Snake lover 3-25
05-07-2008, 03:28 PM
but that's everyhting except Extraversion and Feeling!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 03:33 PM
At least that part's consistent. :D

Snake lover 3-25
05-07-2008, 03:34 PM
lol maybe you should work on that LOL:D

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 03:36 PM
So where's the link to the test, Stefan?

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 03:36 PM
lol maybe you should work on that LOL:D
I don't think so. :D

James, there are three links in wikipedia and one application on Facebook. Don't remember where I found the fifth.

Snake lover 3-25
05-07-2008, 03:43 PM
you really took 5???? why????? aren't they all just about the same????

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 03:45 PM
I don't think so. :D

James, there are three links in wikipedia and one application on Facebook. Don't remember where I found the fifth.

I have to go looking for a link? I won't bother then.... I guess I'd come out L.A.Z.Y.

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 03:50 PM
you really took 5???? why????? aren't they all just about the same????
Because I like taking personality tests. :D I also like taking IQ tests.

They are about the same, but the questions are differently formulated in each test.



I have to go looking for a link? I won't bother then.... I guess I'd come out L.A.Z.Y.
At the bottom of the page.. :)

Snake lover 3-25
05-07-2008, 03:52 PM
lol that teminds me.... do any of you have a place where you can just put your snakes and they won't leave it???? meadow just happily goes up and down through the 3 floors... she goes out the windows and ect.... but she NEVER gets off.....
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/IMG_3909.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/IMG_3910.jpg
i go up and check on her once in a while... but she's always there in one room or another.... LOL maybe she's just to L.A.Z.Y. to move!!!!LOL:D;)

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 04:02 PM
I just took a test.... apparently I should be a clergyman or a book keeper!:rolleyes:

Stefan-A
05-07-2008, 04:05 PM
So, which type would that be? :D

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 04:07 PM
It didn't tell me a 'type', just a load of waffle.... theology or mathematics? Poles apart!! I think it's nonsense, the questions were silly too.

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 04:19 PM
I took another... I'm an ESFP... this time I should be an entertainer!

Snake lover 3-25
05-07-2008, 04:28 PM
wow you have everything that stefan doesn't!!!! you COMPLETE him!!!!!!! LOLOLOL:D:D:D:D:D:D

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 04:39 PM
Took another one! ENFJ this time! Who am I?:eek:

"ENFJs are the benevolent 'pedagogues' of humanity. They have tremendous charisma by which many are drawn into their nurturant tutelage and/or grand schemes."

Do what?

anji1971
05-07-2008, 05:41 PM
I just took one.............ISFP. Now I have to take a few more just for comparison.
Yay!! This is fun!:D

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 05:47 PM
I have taken a few now (it is fun!). When you pool all my results together I think I'm either LLAMA or YOGHURT.:D

anji1971
05-07-2008, 05:51 PM
I'm still ISFP. Guess I'm stuck with that.
LLAMA could be fun............surprised you didn't end up HUMMOUS.

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 06:01 PM
I think (after doing various tests) I'm quite definitely an ENFJ.... I'm going to go and read about me now!:D

anji1971
05-07-2008, 06:02 PM
The last test had a slight variation -- now I'm INFP. I guess I can change after all!:D

adamanteus
05-07-2008, 06:06 PM
Apparently I should be a cheerleader! Well, I was looking for a new career path, now I know what to go for!:confused:

"They are natural cheerleaders."

Snake lover 3-25
05-07-2008, 06:09 PM
lol nice.... construction to cheerleader!!!

anji1971
05-07-2008, 06:45 PM
Apparently I should be a cheerleader! Well, I was looking for a new career path, now I know what to go for!:confused:

"They are natural cheerleaders."

And of course, we'll need pictures of you with your little skirt and pompoms!:D

Zephyr
05-07-2008, 06:52 PM
And of course, we'll need pictures of you with your little skirt and pompoms!:DDon't be irrational Anji! :eek:

EdgyExoticReptiles
05-07-2008, 06:55 PM
lol wheres the test i cant find it

drache
05-07-2008, 08:14 PM
I'm an imp
good night

enigma200316
05-07-2008, 09:54 PM
I took Justin's test and I'm a TFLTC.....:rolleyes::D:D
to (F) lazy to care, type.........;)hahahha

drache
05-08-2008, 04:05 AM
I hope you can get this
it's a bit long, so I didn't want to just paste in the entire thing
it's not really a personality test, but I really like it
it's called "what tree did you fall from"

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dmzmr79_11cqv9k8pb&hl=en
(http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dmzmr79_11cqv9k8pb)

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 04:58 AM
Can't get at it, Rhea.

Is it the same as this?
What Tree Did You Fall From (http://www.anvari.org/fun/Truth/What_Tree_Did_You_Fall_From.html)



ROWAN TREE (Sensitivity) - full of charm, cheerful, gifted without egoism, likes to draw attention, loves life, motion, unrest, and even complications, is both dependent and independent, good taste, artistic, passionate, emotional, good company, does not forgive.

drache
05-08-2008, 05:38 AM
Can't get at it, Rhea.

Is it the same as this?
What Tree Did You Fall From (http://www.anvari.org/fun/Truth/What_Tree_Did_You_Fall_From.html)

yes - thanks
mine looks different, but it's the same thing

and I'm a walnut tree - it's true
I've got some good qualities of questionable usefulness, but for the most part I am difficult and unpleasant

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 06:54 AM
I'm a Hornbeam...

HORNBEAM TREE (Good Taste) - of cool beauty, cares for its looks and condition, good taste, is not egoistic, makes life as comfortable as possible, leads a reasonable and disciplined life, looks for kindness and acknowledgment in an emotional partner, dreams of unusual lovers, is seldom happy with its feelings, mistrusts most people, is never sure of its decisions, very conscientious.

Mmmmm.... Not really me.

drache
05-08-2008, 07:09 AM
now I had to go back and look at some of them
Mikhaila is very much a Rowan
Jeff's not much of a Weeping Willow
I'm a bit sad that some of what I think of as my better qualities went completely unmentioned

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 07:47 AM
Anyway.... Do you like my new camera?:D:D

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//539/medium/radixhead.jpg

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 08:11 AM
Anyway.... Do you like my new camera?:D:D

Yes. :rolleyes:

count dewclaw
05-08-2008, 08:17 AM
The camera seems fine...but I really like that snake. Hmm, after Pugets I may have to consider Plains...

enigma200316
05-08-2008, 09:00 AM
very nice pic, and snake James, I'd say the camera is ok.....:rolleyes:;):D

drache
05-08-2008, 09:34 AM
I like it
and the snake too

ssssnakeluvr
05-08-2008, 09:54 AM
I got the hornbeam tree also....doesn't really fit me either!

count dewclaw
05-08-2008, 09:59 AM
I looked at the results for all six of the people in my family...didn't really fit any of us! We must have fallen off of different trees.

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 01:21 PM
YouTube - Spiders On Drugs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc)

count dewclaw
05-08-2008, 01:55 PM
My husband had showed that video to me....but I forgot how it turned out!:eek: Too funny.

Zephyr
05-08-2008, 02:01 PM
LOL
"Capped a shell in it's @$$."

Snake lover 3-25
05-08-2008, 03:08 PM
where do you find there things???? who would type spiders on drugs into that site????

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 03:25 PM
where do you find there things???? who would type spiders on drugs into that site????
First off, I found the link on another reptile forum. Second, you don't have to search for it to find it. When you watch a video, YouTube suggests videos from the same user as well as "related videos". You could be watching a National Geographic video about spiders and find this video among the related ones, just because they have that one thing in common.

Snake lover 3-25
05-08-2008, 03:58 PM
oooo okay... makes sense.... LOL:D

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 05:04 PM
Right, two weeks since I was made redundant. I've sent out 22 job applications but had no responses. Anybody need a bald guy for anything?

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 05:14 PM
If I had enough money to pay you a salary, I'd think something up.

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 05:14 PM
Well, I say no responses but there is the chance of a few months work in France.... renovations and development of a holiday complex.. they need a foreman/manager. I don't know about working away from home though.... I get lonely when I blink! And I'd be away from you guys.... who'd look after you?
Come on... talk me out of this one!:rolleyes:

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 05:18 PM
Come on... talk me out of this one!:rolleyes:
Okay. Don't do it. :D

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 05:20 PM
That's a very convincing argument, Stefan. Already I'm having doubts!

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 05:21 PM
How about this one: If you do it, I'll kill you in your sleep. ;)

Too much?

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 05:23 PM
No. That's fine!

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 05:25 PM
I don't know, I think I may have gone too far with that one.

Snake lover 3-25
05-08-2008, 05:27 PM
lol don't leave us... or someone'll make the new server catch fire!!!!! that convincing????? :D

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 05:28 PM
I find out next weekend (17th/18th) what money & package they're offering.... and let's be honest, that's what it's all about.

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 05:30 PM
Of course.

enigma200316
05-08-2008, 05:35 PM
sry James if the money's right than I think its worth it, after all I'm sure there is a place u could use the internet.............;):D

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 05:37 PM
Exactly, it's France, not North Korea. :D

Snake lover 3-25
05-08-2008, 05:38 PM
yaeh... i kind of agree.... and it is a job... but won't leaving your family for a few months be hard????

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 05:39 PM
And who'll take care of your snakes?

enigma200316
05-08-2008, 05:40 PM
well yeah...duh,but living on the streets with his family would be harder.......................;)

Snake lover 3-25
05-08-2008, 05:41 PM
oh... man!!!! i wouldn't be able to do it!!! but you can always find a way to bring them ALL with you can't you????!!!!!!

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 05:42 PM
Well, the whole thing is still open for debate, until they tell me about the money.... and of course, decide if they want me! I don't know..... as I say, I don't know about working away from home... it's not really me.
We'll see.

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 05:44 PM
Maybe I'm just panicking a bit because I haven't found a job yet... two weeks isn't so long.... I still have some more salary to come in.... it's not like we're starving yet!

Snake lover 3-25
05-08-2008, 05:47 PM
lol... yeah...... 2 weeks is really not a long time!!!! some people look for years!!!!

adamanteus
05-08-2008, 05:51 PM
Right guys, I'm off to bed. XXX

Snake lover 3-25
05-08-2008, 05:52 PM
night james.... shouldn't that be zzzzz????? LOL:D

BTW does anyone have a name for my baby boy yet???? i hate telling people that he's unnamed...... and naming them is just SO hard......:D
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/IMG_3914.jpg

Stefan-A
05-08-2008, 05:55 PM
Right guys, I'm off to bed. XXX
Same here. Night.

Snake lover 3-25
05-08-2008, 06:04 PM
lol night to you too!!!:D

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 04:57 PM
It really is quiet tonight... just me and a steady procession of would be spammers!:(

Where are you all?

Stefan-A
05-09-2008, 05:09 PM
Well, I'm in front of my computer watching movies. :D Currently watching Aliens vs. Predator 2.

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 05:11 PM
I haven't seen that one. I watched the first one..... thought it was a bit silly.
Without Sigourny Weaver it couldn't hold my interest!:rolleyes:

Stefan-A
05-09-2008, 05:16 PM
The first AvP movie was really really REALLY bad, but the second one is surprisingly not quite as bad.

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 05:18 PM
Really? Then I will watch it next time the opportunity arises.

Stefan-A
05-09-2008, 05:25 PM
All bets are definitely off in the movie, real exploitation style stuff. :)

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 05:30 PM
The one I've seen, the first AvP, was about as scary as......
something that isn't really very scary at all, for a person who doesn't scare easily, on a very 'brave' day, with the lights on and lots of tough mates round.. and a big gun.

Stefan-A
05-09-2008, 05:32 PM
Well, it was rated PG-13, this one is rated R. :) Not really scary, but pretty "actiony". ;)

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 05:39 PM
I will watch it, next time it comes around. Will I need a cushion to hide behind?

Stefan-A
05-09-2008, 05:42 PM
No, but you might want to wear a diaper.

Not really. It's not scary, just moderately entertaining.

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 05:43 PM
No, but you might want to wear a diaper.

Not really.

For all you know, I might wear one anyway!:D

Lori P
05-09-2008, 05:57 PM
I'm sitting here shaking after an encounter with our evil neighbor... I hate, hate that I let that nasty so and so affect me like this, but I am so bad at confrontations and especially with people who are just mean to be mean... I've got a pounding headache and can't stop shaking. I'm such a wimp!!!

I need a hug!!!!! :(:(:(

drache
05-09-2008, 05:58 PM
((((HUG))))
what happened?

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 06:00 PM
Lori, you have my hug.:D:D
Unfortunately you can't choose your neighbours... look at it this way... your neighbour has to go home and life with his/herself... you can walk away. You should pity them!

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 06:08 PM
We have a very bad neighbour (not next door, thankfully). He is often drunk, regularly batters his wife and his language is foul and loud. When we see his wife all bruised and cut-up he makes stupid excuses like... she had an epileptic fit or she hurt herself in the garden.
Last year his language was so bad and loud, during the day while we were all outside, I had to go round and 'talk' to him. He's been quieter for a few months, but he's warming up again now. Quite soon I'm going to break his stupid face.

Sid
05-09-2008, 06:17 PM
I'm sitting here shaking after an encounter with our evil neighbor... I hate, hate that I let that nasty so and so affect me like this, but I am so bad at confrontations and especially with people who are just mean to be mean... I've got a pounding headache and can't stop shaking. I'm such a wimp!!!

I need a hug!!!!! :(:(:(
OK everyone....group hug for Lori. All of us love you;).

Lori P
05-09-2008, 06:18 PM
Well... ever since we moved here (about 10 years ago) we've had non stop problems with this person. She lives across the field from us, so keep in mind, she's quite a ways away. But she hates animals. (See where this is going?) And, her brother sold us this property without telling his family he was selling the land outside of the family... so I believe that's where it started. No matter what, she was set against us buying this land.

She constantly complains about the animals-- just the fact that we have them. She started years ago by going to the sheriff and complaining that I let my dogs out on MY property-- they MIGHT run onto her property and bite her. I let my chickens loose in MY yard-- they might come onto her property. She tried to take us to court when I started breeding milk goats. She did take us to court twice, and lost, because on occasion the horses got out or the goats got out. She called the sheriff out when there were buzzards circling the woods behind us and actually walked him onto OUR property, to "prove" we had dead animals lying in the woods-- of course we did not-- and since we didn't have no tresspassing signs up, she got away with bringing him onto our land. Every time she gets the chance, she stops us and yells at us about something... the fences aren't good enough, the emu or the turkeys are following her around the field when she walks (even tho they are on the inside of our fence), one of the dogs barked at her and scared her, there are too many deer and we need to let hunters onto our land, the horses smell, the donkeys bray too much... you get the idea.

It's not just the compaining-- it's the viciousness in her voice. She is so-- cold, and mean, and just-- a very negative, hurtful, nasty person. It's like you can feel the meanness dripping off of her.

Today it was the fences-- the horses have been leaning on them and they are going to break thru and get on her land and she is not going to be responsible for when her son shoots them.

I know I shouldn't let her get to me. But every encounter with her leaves me feeling like she poured some toxic energy all over me.

Thanks for letting me rant... normally I'd come home and burrow into hubby, but he's out tonite.

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah, I love you Lori. ((((HUG))))

Zephyr
05-09-2008, 06:21 PM
((Hug.)) Well, what'chya gonna do? There are mean people in this world... She'll get her just desserts. Probably be in the bathroom one night and see a massive house centipede crawling down the wall at her. XD
Who's to blame now?! :P

Lori P
05-09-2008, 06:24 PM
Awww, you guys, thanks so much. :o James, I can't believe you have that going on beside you. You need to get some of your friends together and teach that man a serious lesson, late one night when he can't see your faces.

I just can't fathom why some people chose to live with so much anger and hatred in them. I know I should pity her, and in a way I do... and, after all, she is quite old. I should outlive her, afterall... :D

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 06:24 PM
As I say, Lori. She has to go home and live with that venom. To quote a song lyric....
"God makes her pay, be sure she has to go through life that way.
You just be yourself, and carry on....."

Lori P
05-09-2008, 06:25 PM
((Hug.)) Well, what'chya gonna do? There are mean people in this world... She'll get her just desserts. Probably be in the bathroom one night and see a massive house centipede crawling down the wall at her. XD
Who's to blame now?! :P

LOL... Kyle, could you send me some of those??!!

Zephyr
05-09-2008, 06:26 PM
I should outlive her, afterall... :DHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I fell off my seat when I read that! XD

Lori P
05-09-2008, 06:28 PM
That's a very good quote, James. Very fitting.

When we all get together for our world meeting, I'm going to hug all of you to bits. (Yeah, I guess that could be taken as a threat...LOL!!)

adamanteus
05-09-2008, 06:30 PM
I think this World Meeting will be quite long.... already I have three and a half days of hugs to deliver.:D

drache
05-09-2008, 06:59 PM
just be careful, Lori
they sound like they're eager to use that spare ammo . . .

anji1971
05-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Here's a slightly belated hug Lori! :)
Been out of the house since this morning, finally getting a few minutes to sit on my butt.

It is so hard to deal with angry, bitter, mean people in life. If you aren't like that yourself you just cannot fathom why they do the things they do.
All you can do is hold your head up and walk away, thanking the powers that be that you are a nicer person.
As my best friend says:
"Don't stoop to that level. Let the person with the manners and class show it."
And hope that another less classy, less mannerly person comes along and thumps them one!:D

count dewclaw
05-09-2008, 07:48 PM
((HUG)) for Lori! Sorry she's making life difficult for you.

Stefan-A
05-10-2008, 12:27 AM
she is quite old. I should outlive her, afterall... :D
:D Next time you have an argument with her, try to find an opportunity to tell her that.

I know I don't react well to being yelled at. Never have, hopefully never will.

Lulu Bennett
05-10-2008, 03:54 AM
Lori, i know i am a bit late but i am sending you big big hugs.
ignore her sweety, you are better than that! or if worst comes to worst then play the biatc* at her own game and tell the sheriff she keeps verbally abusing you and threatening you.

Lulu Bennett
05-10-2008, 04:19 AM
James, my old word was nehebkau but this time can you please put it as:
- Wadjet - She was an Egyptian serpent guardian sent by Osiris to protect Pharoah and control the Nile. The cobra goddess was the patroness of Lower Egypt. Wadjet was part of the Osirian myths and was always viewed as a protector of Egypt, depicted as a woman with a cobra head or as a cobra about to strike at the nation's enemies.
heehehe i like this one better

adamanteus
05-10-2008, 04:24 AM
No sooner said than done, Lulu.
Text me when I can come get those babies..... I'm keen to get started!:D

Lulu Bennett
05-10-2008, 04:30 AM
at about two you can come round to mine. i will show you the rest and see what you think hehehe i am just gutted that it is just these two that won't eat.

adamanteus
05-10-2008, 04:35 AM
2pm it is...... text your address, or call me.
See you later.:)

Snake lover 3-25
05-10-2008, 11:00 AM
ooooo that sucks...... ((HUGS)):D

last night i fell asleep at 4pm and woke up at 6:30 went out to dinner and went back to bed at 9:00pm then i woke up at 10:30am LOL i didn't even know i was tired!!!!:D

drache
05-11-2008, 04:45 AM
this so sucks
I'm going through a hormonally challenging time and nobody is available to help me with something I've agonized over myself for months now and asked several people politely for advice
I'm already feeling weepy all this time and now I'm feeling like people just don't want to deal with me and I'm bursting into full-fledged sobbing over the memory of someone being kind to me last August
I was warned that this would happen

Lori P
05-11-2008, 07:03 AM
Oh dear Rhea! It's unreal how much hormones rule our thoughts and emotions. If we can help you, Rhea, you know we will!!!

anji1971
05-11-2008, 07:10 AM
this so sucks
I'm going through a hormonally challenging time and nobody is available to help me with something I've agonized over myself for months now and asked several people politely for advice
I'm already feeling weepy all this time and now I'm feeling like people just don't want to deal with me and I'm bursting into full-fledged sobbing over the memory of someone being kind to me last August
I was warned that this would happen

Rhea, hormones can totally wreak havoc on a woman. I've always had one issue or another with them. In fact I've taken to just calling them "horror-mones"!
And I really haven't found much over the years that really helps a lot.
Hope some solution comes along soon, to help you feel better.

drache
05-11-2008, 09:20 AM
I used to volunteer at a parental crises hot-line and someone there had tacked a t-shirt on the bathroom door that read "I'm fresh out of estrogen and I've got a gun"
scary, huh?

drache
05-11-2008, 04:37 PM
on a happier note
check this out:
The Associated Press: Penguin's wetsuit puts him back in the swim of things (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ikTfi8LcF1A1YT_LpejyOcVn_4QwD908HHQ83)

Snake lover 3-25
05-11-2008, 04:44 PM
awwww what a cute idea!!!!

reptileparadise
05-12-2008, 04:51 AM
We all have a favorite TV show from the past...
TV Theme Music and Songs - TelevisionTunes.com (http://www.televisiontunes.com/)

Really cool to hear some of the tunes again!

Snake lover 3-25
05-12-2008, 02:44 PM
I like this one!!!!:D

Fairly-Odd-Parents Theme Song (http://www.televisiontunes.com/Fairly-Odd-Parents.html)

jeanette
05-12-2008, 03:16 PM
Rhea only advice i can give for hormones is chocolate :S
when i was pregnant with my first son my hormones were always going crazy and i used to cry at commercials. it didnt get better when i was pregnant with any of my kids, four sons later and i have decided if my husband wants another baby hes going to get sterilised with a house brick and a hammer. i think every woman has hormone issues at sometime or another mine just happened to be during pregnancy dont feel bad. it happens to all women thats why we have men...........so we can take it out on them

Snake lover 3-25
05-12-2008, 03:25 PM
lol i'm with you!!!

BTW.... i lied i like the pooh and the barney songs!!!!
(they remind me of when i was little!!!) :D LOL

ooooo oooo and madlin too!!!!!:D

CrazyHedgehog
05-12-2008, 03:25 PM
Chocolate is the thing!!

and its really healthy....as its 3 main ingredients are:
cocoa bean - thats a vegetable,
sugar, from the cane or sugar beet, again another vegetable
and milk! well we all need a bit of calcium!:D

Snake lover 3-25
05-12-2008, 03:34 PM
oh my gosh there are SOOOOOO many that i know!!!!!
i <3 magic school bus!!!!

oh and wait power rangers!!! who didn't watch these shows as a child/ with their children???? LOL this site is FUN!!!:D LOL

drache
05-13-2008, 04:53 AM
I've never been much into chocolate, but funny you should mention it . . .
I just discovered that the ethnic market three blocks down has belgian hazelnut truffles
and I did eat most of a box pretty much by myself (Mikhaila didn't like them and Jeff got home too late)
I could get into this chocolate thing

and have you ever seen the movie "Junior" where Arnold is pregnant?
it's really cute when he cries at the baby food commercials

count dewclaw
05-13-2008, 11:57 AM
Chocolate is the thing!!

and its really healthy....as its 3 main ingredients are:
cocoa bean - thats a vegetable,
sugar, from the cane or sugar beet, again another vegetable
and milk! well we all need a bit of calcium!:D

I love your logic! I'm right with you on that one.

anji1971
05-14-2008, 07:00 AM
Here's a little hormone-therapy solution that I get to indulge in only once in a while..........RETAIL THERAPY!!!
I've been stashing some extra cash away here and there, and today I'm taking my daughter to the mall for a shopping day. I'm planning on buying only things that are not practical or on my list of needs. This is for FUN!! :D
And we'll be sure to indulge in loads of chocolate ice-cream while we're there, as well!

Lulu Bennett
05-14-2008, 07:03 AM
Here's a little hormone-therapy solution that I get to indulge in only once in a while..........RETAIL THERAPY!!!
I've been stashing some extra cash away here and there, and today I'm taking my daughter to the mall for a shopping day. I'm planning on buying only things that are not practical or on my list of needs. This is for FUN!! :D
And we'll be sure to indulge in loads of chocolate ice-cream while we're there, as well!

haha anji sounds like a plan, can i come?

drache
05-14-2008, 07:18 AM
I would just love to do a little retail therapy at the next reptile expo - if only someone would lend me a pick-up truck

Snake lover 3-25
05-14-2008, 01:42 PM
ME TOOOOOOO i think i might like shopping at reptile stores more than people stores......... but then again.........:D

anji1971
05-14-2008, 02:07 PM
Well, I stayed far away from reptile stores. My stash of cash wasn't large enough to equip that kind of therapy!!:D
However, I did come home with loads of cheap flip-flops for summer, sunglasses, jewellery, a bunch of adorable but otherwise useless garden figurines, and yet another bird-feeder. Still looking for that perfect summer purse..........I go through that crisis every year. :rolleyes:

reptileparadise
05-15-2008, 10:36 AM
wow...I finnaly get it!
<3 is supposed to be a heart!...ahhhh....

adamanteus
05-15-2008, 11:04 AM
Oh, right....
I thought it meant 'is smaller than 3' :D

reptileparadise
05-15-2008, 11:21 AM
...And I thought I was bad with 'code language' hahahaha
Wel...it should mean smaller than 3, but then again, I'm not a 'numbers fan'

Athough...The TV show "numbers" is quite funny...

gregmonsta
05-16-2008, 11:30 AM
That's it .... be prepared ... must start a gregmonsta only posting spree ;P

reptileparadise
05-16-2008, 11:31 AM
Go ahead greg! But I bet you can never keep up with Stefan or James!

gregmonsta
05-16-2008, 11:33 AM
lmao ... too true ;) ... hard to catch up with the forum dinosaurs :rolleyes:

adamanteus
05-16-2008, 11:47 AM
... hard to catch up with the forum dinosaurs :rolleyes:

So, if you were a dinosaur, which one would you be?:D
I'd probably be Diplodocus.:rolleyes:

reptileparadise
05-16-2008, 11:52 AM
Lol...lets move this to the "its oh so quiet topic " shall we :)

reptileparadise
05-16-2008, 11:54 AM
alright then...the Diplodocus...
Diplodocus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplodocus)

gregmonsta
05-16-2008, 11:54 AM
:D As there was no Gregasaurus I'd have to go with Gorgosaurus :cool:

gregmonsta
05-16-2008, 11:56 AM
Hehe .... Gorgosaurus

http://www.buapit.ac.th/dinosaur/images/gorgosaurus.jpg

Stefan-A
05-16-2008, 12:09 PM
Always been a fan of Allosaurus. :D

Allosaurus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allosaurus)

reptileparadise
05-16-2008, 12:19 PM
I would go for something like this...

Argentinosaurus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentinasaurus)

drache
05-16-2008, 01:02 PM
since this is still considered a dinosaur . . .
Archaeopteryx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeopterix)

Snake lover 3-25
05-16-2008, 02:28 PM
i'd be one of those long necked ones..... idk what their called:D

Elliot
05-16-2008, 03:00 PM
lmao ... too true ;) ... hard to catch up with the forum dinosaurs :rolleyes:

I've been here longer than James. ;)

Snake lover 3-25
05-16-2008, 05:09 PM
:eek:OMG!!!!!!!!! WOW you HAVE been here longer than JAMES????!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

adamanteus
05-16-2008, 05:11 PM
Well, Elliot was here first..... but as for who has spent more time actually on the forum..... no contest.;)

Snake lover 3-25
05-16-2008, 05:20 PM
14.76 posts per day nice james!!!!! you should try and get to 15!!!!!! i'm at 11.41!!!! :D

Elliot
05-16-2008, 09:15 PM
I'm at a blistering pace of 1.83 posts per day. ;)

Zephyr
05-16-2008, 09:53 PM
What?! A dinosaur conversation without me?!
The ORIGINAL dino fanatic?!
:O

enigma200316
05-17-2008, 06:05 AM
What?! A dinosaur conversation without me?!
The ORIGINAL dino fanatic?!
:O


oh Kyle stop being such a sourpussasaurus............:p;):D

reptileparadise
05-17-2008, 07:27 AM
http://blogs.spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/Ugobe-Pleo-robotic-dinosaur-toy.jpg

ssssnakeluvr
05-17-2008, 07:47 AM
gee.....I was a dino fanatic when I was a kid....long time ago. Or as my wonderful son put it, "Dad, did you ride dinosours to school??"

ssssnakeluvr
05-17-2008, 07:49 AM
Well, Elliot was here first..... but as for who has spent more time actually on the forum..... no contest.;)
well.......I beat Elliot here.....but no one beats James for time on here!!!! :eek:

reptileparadise
05-17-2008, 07:57 AM
Anyone ever heard of Pablo fransisco? I really like his acts!
YouTube - Pablo Francisco - Ecstacy at Techno Club (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=F4vST6_clnA)

adamanteus
05-17-2008, 08:15 AM
Anybody else use their Garter photos as their desk-top wallpaper?

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/adamanteus_bucket/Garter%20Snake%20Photos/Misc/PC.jpg

Elliot
05-17-2008, 10:01 AM
Yup.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q216/ElsinoreRider/femmewallpaper.jpg

Snake lover 3-25
05-17-2008, 10:14 AM
lol why do you have 2 computers right next to each other???

BTW i do like the pics you chose for your Desk-Top!!!:D

adamanteus
05-17-2008, 10:15 AM
Multi-tasking!;)

Snake lover 3-25
05-17-2008, 10:16 AM
lol nice..... i just pull up a second tab to do that!!!!

Lori P
05-17-2008, 12:05 PM
Hey, someone from here in the US recently posted pics of new baby albino checkereds and I can't for the life of me remeber who it was. He had 9 babies. I'm *just wondering* if there will be any for sale... :rolleyes: Just wondering, really... pure curiosity....:D

drache
05-17-2008, 02:24 PM
this it?
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/breeding/3091-baby-albinos.html#post53491

adamanteus
05-17-2008, 02:30 PM
'Snowflake', Mollys' cat, is growing very nicely. Thought I'd just post an up-to-date picture.:D

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/adamanteus_bucket/Garter%20Snake%20Photos/Misc/mollyandsnowflake.jpg

Sid
05-17-2008, 02:37 PM
Great photo, JAmes. Molly and kitty look so sweet.

Lori P
05-17-2008, 02:42 PM
Thank you Rhea!! Gee, and the title is so.... obvious... but I'm blonde, ya know. :rolleyes::D

James, beautiful picture!!

Snake lover 3-25
05-17-2008, 02:57 PM
lol cute pic!!!:D

enigma200316
05-17-2008, 05:17 PM
the cats nice and all, but Molly is BEAUTIFUL and i love them eyes of hers, must get them looks from her mom.......;):D

adamanteus
05-17-2008, 05:17 PM
Well, it really is 'Oh So Quiet' tonight! One solitary post in the past two and a half hours... are we all hibernating?:D

enigma200316
05-17-2008, 05:18 PM
No, its just, i just got home.....lol

adamanteus
05-17-2008, 05:19 PM
must get them looks from her mom.......;):D

Naw... her Mom's a beast!:eek:
Kidding!

Snake lover 3-25
05-17-2008, 05:19 PM
lol well i've been on.... but i didn't know what to talk about!!!!:D

adamanteus
05-17-2008, 05:20 PM
Let's talk about Garter Snakes, Shanley.:)

enigma200316
05-17-2008, 05:20 PM
Naw... her Mom's a beast!:eek:
Kidding!


better watch that James, could get ya into trouble..........;):D

adamanteus
05-17-2008, 05:20 PM
What do you want next?
What's your ultimate ambition (Garter Snake-wise?)

adamanteus
05-17-2008, 05:21 PM
better watch that James, could get ya into trouble..........;):D

I'll delete that before I go to bed!:D

enigma200316
05-17-2008, 05:29 PM
hahaha....to funny James.......

well here's what i want for Garters.....I currently have 2 easterns, 1 red-sided, 3 similis............I would love to get the following this year maybe:

checkerd-Albino or regular,but albino prefered
would love a flame, but doubt that one.....
and maybe some concinus........


really I want them all but that maybe what Im shooting for this year...:D

Snake lover 3-25
05-17-2008, 05:33 PM
well........ i wan't a puget....... but that's most likely not going to happen....... so this year i just want babies!!!:D and sooty may just be the one to give them to me!!!:D:D:D:D:D

enigma200316
05-17-2008, 05:38 PM
good luck with that Shanely, and I would like a puget to but I have the similis which are blue as well..................;)

Snake lover 3-25
05-17-2008, 05:41 PM
lol yeah..... i want a san fran..... but i'm pretty sure that they're illegal.......:D

enigma200316
05-17-2008, 05:44 PM
lol yeah..... i want a san fran..... but i'm pretty sure that they're illegal.......:D


yeah no hope there.................tongue stuck out at the people across the pond for being able to have san frans.......:p:D

Snake lover 3-25
05-17-2008, 05:45 PM
yeah........ how did that happen??????????:D

gregmonsta
05-18-2008, 05:09 AM
I WANT THEM ALL >>>> MUHAHAHAHAHAHA

Well .... hoping to expand by two snakeys per year anyway and pair all the existing singles off .... and .... start a garter revolution in Scotland at some point in the next couple o' years :D

enigma200316
05-18-2008, 06:56 AM
I WANT THEM ALL >>>> MUHAHAHAHAHAHA

Well .... hoping to expand by two snakeys per year anyway and pair all the existing singles off .... and .... start a garter revolution in Scotland at some point in the next couple o' years :D


sounds great Greg, good luck with that and keep us posted...........:)

drache
05-18-2008, 07:10 AM
What do you want next?
What's your ultimate ambition (Garter Snake-wise?)
at this point, what I really want is more space, more enclosures . . .
and then . . .

jeanette
05-18-2008, 07:16 AM
What do you want next?
What's your ultimate ambition (Garter Snake-wise?)
Dont think i have an ultimate ambition where garter snakes are concerned, just think i would like to continue to enjoy all my reptiles and amphibians.
might need to build an extension on the house eventually though we are getting crowded.

Stefan-A
05-18-2008, 07:18 AM
well.......I beat Elliot here.....but no one beats James for time on here!!!! :eek:
He might beat me in posts, but until I see any real statistics, I'm going to consider myself #1 in that category. :D

reptileparadise
05-18-2008, 08:42 AM
14.76 posts per day nice james!!!!! you should try and get to 15!!!!!! i'm at 11.41!!!! :D

:DThats insane!:D
I'm at a whopping 1.05 posts a day!

EdgyExoticReptiles
05-18-2008, 01:16 PM
wow! u should get to 1 thousand in 379.04761904762 days :D

:DThats insane!:D
I'm at a whopping 1.05 posts a day!

reptileparadise
05-18-2008, 01:19 PM
Yeah! I'm at 1.06 now!

drache
05-18-2008, 04:01 PM
I think Sammy is going into labour
she shed yesterday

adamanteus
05-18-2008, 04:02 PM
That's great, Rhea.... just remind me... which one is 'Sammy'?

adamanteus
05-18-2008, 04:21 PM
He might beat me in posts, but until I see any real statistics, I'm going to consider myself #1 in that category. :D

I wouldn't dispute that, but correct me if I'm wrong.... have you been on the forum a lot less this past week?
I hope you're not being unfaithful to us! Or worse, getting a more interesting life than mine!

Stefan-A
05-18-2008, 10:26 PM
I wouldn't dispute that, but correct me if I'm wrong.... have you been on the forum a lot less this past week?
I hope you're not being unfaithful to us! Or worse, getting a more interesting life than mine!
True. Field courses at a zoological station are keeping me busy for another week. We've been taking water samples, benthos samples, we've been dissecting fish to figure out what they've been eating and this week we'll be focusing on birds, seals and a couple of minor experiments on invertebrates (sand shrimps, baltic isopods) and fish (sand goby).

EdgyExoticReptiles
05-18-2008, 11:41 PM
i want to make a 10 tub high (tub size- 34"x17.5") and have 5 tubs of 1.3 high blue pugets, then get them their own website :), tub number six is reserved for the 1.2 red-sides im getting from Sjoerd, tub number 7 and 8 are reserved for 1.2 flames in each, and i have no idea whats going in 9 and 10

What do you want next?
What's your ultimate ambition (Garter Snake-wise?)

EdgyExoticReptiles
05-18-2008, 11:43 PM
wasnt she the one who had surgery because she was a little chubby? or something like that? the black eastern with some red? right?

That's great, Rhea.... just remind me... which one is 'Sammy'?

drache
05-19-2008, 04:24 AM
wasnt she the one who had surgery because she was a little chubby? or something like that? the black eastern with some red? right?

you got it - that's her
she had liposuction on her chin (well sort of)
and she's my favourite snake
and it's her first litter
and no - nothing's happened yet, but here she is warming her big belly

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/2503502024_2c2c38e66e_b.jpg

enigma200316
05-19-2008, 04:39 AM
she looks huge, I'm saying 30-40 now just get it going............:D

drache
05-19-2008, 08:55 AM
hey
maybe I should start a "how many" thread . . .

reptileparadise
05-19-2008, 11:10 AM
She does look HUGE!

Well, I found my eurydactylodes female burried underground today...I'm guessing there are some eggs on their way...What a great birthday present! My entire geckoseason can be made or broken with this girl!

drache
05-19-2008, 11:23 AM
She does look HUGE!
she's kind of big all over though
sometimes I wonder whether I've just let her get fat again, but there's no double chin
and also - some of the appearance of hugeness is due to the perspective of the shot

reptileparadise
05-20-2008, 03:22 AM
wow, this is pretty neat!
"Albino" tadpoles
BBC NEWS | Wales | 'Rare' albino tadpoles uncovered (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7404536.stm)

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 07:45 AM
Look at all us Brits on line in the middle of the afternoon! Don't any of us go to work?:D

enigma200316
05-20-2008, 11:12 AM
Look at all us Brits on line in the middle of the afternoon! Don't any of us go to work?:D


no, its just you that doesn't James............:rolleyes:;):D

Snake lover 3-25
05-20-2008, 01:33 PM
the sun was just to bright today...

TOO bright???? i haven't seen the sun in 5 days!!!!!:(:(:(

but your snakes are sooooo pretty!!!:D

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 01:35 PM
The Sun? Oh, yes, I remember.... big bright thing, used to come out in the day time.

Snake lover 3-25
05-20-2008, 01:37 PM
then what time does everyone get home??????

i get home from school at 3.......:(:(:(:D

Stefan-A
05-20-2008, 01:37 PM
The Sun? Oh, yes, I remember.... big bright thing, used to come out in the day time.
Burns your skin, hurts your eyes, gives you cancer, ruins photos..

reptileparadise
05-20-2008, 01:38 PM
I dind't go to school today...Just like yesterday!
Sadly, we have to go tomorrow...and the busses are on a strike :(

Snake lover 3-25
05-20-2008, 01:38 PM
I HATE weather!!!!!:(:mad::mad::(

Snake lover 3-25
05-20-2008, 01:39 PM
:eek::eek::eek: LUCKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek: i WISH that was happening HERE!!!!!!!:(

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 01:40 PM
Burns your skin, hurts your eyes, gives you cancer, ruins photos..

"Smeagol, that was your name once, wasn't it?":D

drache
05-20-2008, 01:43 PM
I don't think Sammy's going to give birth any time soon
would she be interested in food if she were to give birth in the near future?

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 01:44 PM
Some eat right up to parturition, some fast for an alarmingly long time.... and everything in between.:rolleyes:

reptileparadise
05-20-2008, 01:44 PM
Probably not!

Or at least I hope...I've got a preggie thats refusing food for the last week! I'm so excited...I just cant hide it! ...lol...

Edit*Dammit James! Okay...My 'probably not' is for Rhea...not James...

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 01:45 PM
......cue for a song!

Stefan-A
05-20-2008, 01:46 PM
"Smeagol, that was your name once, wasn't it?":D
I made teriyaki pike yesterday, gollum, gollum.. :)

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 01:47 PM
"Burns us, it does, precious! Gollum! Gollum!"

reptileparadise
05-20-2008, 01:53 PM
Hit it!

So...whats everyones favorite music?

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 01:58 PM
Cajun.:D:D

Stefan-A
05-20-2008, 02:11 PM
So...whats everyones favorite music?
Loud. :D



(too short, my hairy aching ***)

Snake lover 3-25
05-20-2008, 02:12 PM
don't listen to much.....:D

drache
05-20-2008, 02:32 PM
Some eat right up to parturition, some fast for an alarmingly long time.... and everything in between.:rolleyes:
with her tendencies, she'll probably be in the former category
she's the top most gluttonous snake in my household

Snake lover 3-25
05-20-2008, 02:38 PM
wow this gut says that this is most people's worst nightmare?????? I NEED TO GO THERE!!!!!!!!! THAT IS MY DREAME COME TRUE!!!!!:D

YouTube - 20,000 snakes is a Narcisse Snake Pit ... creepy ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8LpTWmkE8E&feature=related)

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 02:52 PM
Exciting news......
I just ordered 1.2 '07 CB Thamnophis melanogaster melanogaster!:D:D

Stefan-A
05-20-2008, 02:53 PM
Who's selling? :I

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 02:55 PM
Steven Bol, in the Netherlands. I think mine are the last three.:o

jeanette
05-20-2008, 02:55 PM
wow this gut says that this is most people's worst nightmare?????? I NEED TO GO THERE!!!!!!!!! THAT IS MY DREAME COME TRUE!!!!!:D

YouTube - 20,000 snakes is a Narcisse Snake Pit ... creepy ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8LpTWmkE8E&feature=related)

oh my that would be fun to go and see that happening.:)

Stefan-A
05-20-2008, 02:58 PM
Oh well. Maybe next year. :D

Snake lover 3-25
05-20-2008, 03:00 PM
oh my that would be fun to go and see that happening.:)

and take some souvenirs!!!!:D:D:D

adamanteus
05-20-2008, 03:01 PM
I didn't know they were available, or I would have bought them months ago!
I'm so excited, I feel like standing at the front door and waiting for them!:D

drache
05-20-2008, 03:32 PM
I didn't know they were available, or I would have bought them months ago!
I'm so excited, I feel like standing at the front door and waiting for them!:D
I would be too and I'm quite envious

enigma200316
05-20-2008, 04:47 PM
and take some souvenirs!!!!:D:D:D


I think its illegal to take them from the dens unless you have a permit to do so........

Snake lover 3-25
05-20-2008, 04:49 PM
:(:(:(:(:( I'D FIND A WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :tear: :tear:

Stefan-A
05-20-2008, 04:50 PM
I think its illegal to take them from the dens unless you have a permit to do so........
Last time I checked, it was.

I recommend obeying that law, there's no shortage of captive bred red-sided garters.