Garter habitat pics.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Could you post some pics of spots where garters are found?

Id like to replicate garter's habitat for my marcianus' vivarium.


Cheers,Stubs

[Greg'sGarters]

Hopefully this website can help a lot

California Snakes (http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/snakes.html)

Just scroll down to Thamnophis, and click on the garter snake you are aiming for (which in your case would be Thamnophis marcianus marcianus). It shows you pictures of the garters and pictures of habitats that they can be found in. At the bottom, it gives you descriptions of the species and their habitats that they are found in. It is an awesome website! Hope this helps you as much as it helped me!

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Thank you for the link,Greg :) That website will come in handy for sure .

[Greg'sGarters]

Always glad to help!

[sirtalis01]

Thamnophis marcianus marcianus - Marcy's Checkered Gartersnake (http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/t.m.marcianus.html) this will narrow it down for u.

[ConcinusMan]

Well I don't know about checkereds but you definitely don't want to try to replicate the habitat of pugets or concinnus' that's for sure. Not unless you plan on making an enclosure bigger than a modest house and spending thousands of dollars. Their habitats are very wet.

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/1709/gedc1511.jpg

Still, I do use some wood pieces and plenty of plastic greenery, and of course, a rather large water basin. Bottom tank is for adults (55 gallon long) and also some babies in the middle tank.(20 gal)

http://imageshack.us/a/img36/2909/setups010large.jpg

Obviously, trying to build a wetland in this would be a bad idea unless you plan on keeping just tropical amphibians.

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/909/setups035large.jpg

And as far the checkered habitat pictures go, in CA they live in the desert around waterways. You can't really go by that being how they live a wide variety of habitats throughout their range. From desert waterways to dry forest clearings, to grasslands. They tend to NOT live in very wet climates but also they're rarely found far from water. Same goes for pugets and concinnus. Always in wetlands, swampy places with plenty of amphibians, ponds, river areas, etc. but they only live west of the mountains where we get 30-50 inches of rain. East of the mountains is desert where they get less than 10 inches and you won't find them there. But you will find fitchi there, and always around water. So, basically the same kind of habitat, but a different climate.

[ConcinusMan]

Another place to find concinnus' in the southern part of the Willamette Valley.

http://imageshack.us/a/img692/8097/gedc0226.jpg

http://oi50.tinypic.com/2w4gxzm.jpg

Of course, you can find northwesterns here too but they are much less aquatic in their habits and can be found very far from water as long as there is adequate rainfall and reasonably cool summers, which is why you only find them in the western portions of WA, OR, N. CA, and B.C.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Beautiful pics of beautiful places, Richard :)

What sorts of plants are found in they'r habitats?

[ConcinusMan]

The kind in the pictures. :rolleyes:

But seriously, most of the grass these days is mostly invasive species with canary grass being the most destructive to the habitat. The decidious trees you see are mostly cottonwoods, white oak, and the evergreens are mostly fir. In the wetter spots there's cat tails and skunk cabbage. That's about all I know. Not really familiar with most of the plant species around here but it's changed so much in the last 150 years or so. There's very little of the Willamette Valley that looks like it originally did due to invasive plants and draining of the wetlands but as long as the canary grass doesn't completely choke the habitat and there's still plenty of amphibians (mostly non-native bullfrogs these days) the snakes can still thrive even in highly polluted habitats.

[Thamnophis]

On my website there are, on the species pages, a number of habitat pics. (Thamnophis - Kousebandslangen - Garter snakes (http://www.thamnophis.eu))