View Full Version : Getting ready to shed
StrmChasr
11-26-2012, 03:48 PM
Shouldn't be much longer. This will be the first since I caught him/her.
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Foxrun402
11-26-2012, 04:44 PM
Yah soon as those eyes clear up its only a matter of 1-3 days then.... Amp up the humidity with a nice large water dish and offer moist hides and something a little rough to rub on and your good!
StrmChasr
11-26-2012, 05:31 PM
Yah soon as those eyes clear up its only a matter of 1-3 days then.... Amp up the humidity with a nice large water dish and offer moist hides and something a little rough to rub on and your good!
Thanks for the info. Hopefully the shed happens before I go back to work.
d_virginiana
11-26-2012, 07:11 PM
Wow, nice looking snake to be wc.
lol I have one that I've seen go blue, clear, and then shed in a period of about 48 hours. But yeah, usually happens a few days after their eyes get cloudy :)
StrmChasr
11-26-2012, 07:28 PM
Wow, nice looking snake to be wc.
lol I have one that I've seen go blue, clear, and then shed in a period of about 48 hours. But yeah, usually happens a few days after their eyes get cloudy :)
Thanks. Pretty social for a wild caught snake. Been a little grumpy today but I'd be the same way if my eyes were clouded over.
guidofatherof5
11-26-2012, 07:41 PM
Any other photos of this fine snake?
StrmChasr
11-26-2012, 08:22 PM
Any other photos of this fine snake?
Yes I do.
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StrmChasr
11-26-2012, 08:23 PM
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guidofatherof5
11-26-2012, 08:45 PM
In one photo I see T.s.sirtalis (Eastern Garter) and in another I see T.butleri (Butler's).
More important is what worms are you feeding? Post #7, photos 2 and 3. I see a lot of banding on the worm in those photos. Possible red worms?
Red worms are toxic to garter snakes.
StrmChasr
11-26-2012, 09:03 PM
In one photo I see T.s.sirtalis (Eastern Garter) and in another I see T.butleri (Butler's).
More important is what worms are you feeding? Post #7, photos 2 and 3. I see a lot of banding on the worm in those photos. Possible red worms?
Red worms are toxic to garter snakes.
All pictures are of the same snake. Took them myself.
Unless I have red worms living in my backyard with all the night crawlers and earthworms then no. I will start paying closer attention to the worms I catch and avoid the ones with banding for safety reasons.
guidofatherof5
11-26-2012, 09:15 PM
I'm not well versed in Easterns or Butlers so that's why I said something. I believe you about the photos.
I might be way off on the worms but that's what I saw in the photo so I felt I should say something.
If they're out of the soil in your backyard you probably have nothing to worry about.
Didn't mean to alarm you.;)
StrmChasr
11-26-2012, 09:29 PM
I'm not well versed in Easterns or Butlers so that's why I said something. I believe you about the photos.
I might be way off on the worms but that's what I saw in the photo so I felt I should say something.
If they're out of the soil in your backyard you probably have nothing to worry about.
Didn't mean to alarm you.;)
Nothing wrong with bringing a potentially bad situation to the attention to a newbie like me. If they are in fact red worms then you may have saved a garters life.
At first I thought I had a Butlers garter to and since they are on the protected list in Ohio I had him positively ID by the nice people at Ohio State University as an Eastern. Didn't want to be doing a bad thing by keeping a wild caught garter that is protected.
d_virginiana
11-26-2012, 09:49 PM
A lot of nice oranges for a wc snake :)
You should look into getting a worm bed going. Super cheap and almost no effort after you get it set up. When I got my first one I tried digging up my own worms, and it got real old real fast. lol Plus they get huge when you feed them compost!
guidofatherof5
11-26-2012, 10:10 PM
Any chance a a couple worm photos? Is the tail of the worm flat?
StrmChasr
11-26-2012, 10:26 PM
Any chance a a couple worm photos? Is the tail of the worm flat?
I will see if I can find one tomorrow. The cold weather has made the worms go into hiding. I'm gonna look into this more because now that I think about it I use DMF red worms for fishing and if I ever have any left over I throw them in the flower beds. It is possible that that's what I got a hold of. If it is I'm glad you mentioned it. Gonna have to pay better attention to what I'm catching. I just bought some DMF nightcrawlers at WalMart because my slug population is dwendleing. What are your thoughts on feeding live leeches. I can get them in bulk from Cabelas.
guidofatherof5
11-26-2012, 10:38 PM
I have no idea how they are raised/kept or even the species. I do believe leeches are an intermediate host for some parasites though.
I would look into it much deeper before I used them.
d_virginiana
11-26-2012, 10:54 PM
I probably wouldn't risk leeches... They produce some pretty intense anti-coagulents. idk how that would affect snakes if they were eating a lot of them.
StrmChasr
12-01-2012, 05:23 PM
First shed in captivity is a success.
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Lone continuous piece and both eye caps came off. The orange stripe down the sides is more pronounced now.
guidofatherof5
12-01-2012, 05:49 PM
Very nice.
StrmChasr
12-05-2012, 12:56 AM
A couple post shed pictures.
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Foxrun402
12-05-2012, 03:20 PM
Awesome! Looks like a good shed to me! I love their names too! haha VOTE FOR PEDRO!
Foxrun402
12-05-2012, 03:26 PM
One thing I did notice was the dish that the worm is in though.... Is that sitting on top the substrate? If it is you might consider submerging it into the substrate... Babies tend to love digging and can sometimes dig a tunnel under a water/feeding dish... if heavy enough... it can crush the snake and cause it damage or even kill the snake! I read about this and immediately made sure my water dish was on the glass with substrate built up around it... similar to an underground pool! again just an observation! Hope all is well! ;)
StrmChasr
12-05-2012, 07:13 PM
Awesome! Looks like a good shed to me! I love their names too! haha VOTE FOR PEDRO!
I think you are the first one to pick up on where I got the names from.
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