A Non Thamnophis Garter Snake

[guidofatherof5]

Was reading The Reptile Report and saw an article about herping in South Africa.
Came across this interesting snake with an interesting name.
Elapsoidea sundevallii longicauda - Sundeval's Garter Snake

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[Light of Dae]

Neat.. although he mentions that garters lay eggs lol

Smooth looking... no Keeled scales..

[ProXimuS]

How interesting. It's face reminds me a little of a queen snake:)

I don't like how the video keeps referring to garters in general and saying things that are untrue for real garters. I assume they mean those types of garters...But still..

[guidofatherof5]

I've never heard of this snake before and wonder how it came about its common name. Apparently in South Africa has it's own definition of what a garter snake is.

[ProXimuS]

Good point, I hadn't thought of that.

What about the "Indonesian Garters"? Is that kinda like this situation, or is that just a false name?

[guidofatherof5]

I'm guessing that's more a commercial name then anything. A way of letting the public identify with the product.
I feel sorry for all those Keelback snakes that are sentenced to death in the pet trade.

[@ndy]

Hi All

Yes that's our local garter snake here in SA, as you all said not live bearing, no keeled scales and have it venom that is as potent as a cobra! and they are not the most beautiful snakes around either, they are not common at all, I have never seen a live one.

[BUSHSNAKE]

Common names dont mean anything anyways besides garter snake is a flattering name for any snake;)

[ConcinusMan]

I've never heard of this snake before and wonder how it came about its common name.

I imagine they got the name for the same reason North American garters did. Look at the pattern. Just think of the dorsal as a thick stripe.

[jaleely]

Does kind of look like a mamba.

[ProXimuS]

Hi All

Yes that's our local garter snake here in SA, as you all said not live bearing, no keeled scales and have it venom that is as potent as a cobra! and they are not the most beautiful snakes around either, they are not common at all, I have never seen a live one.

Hey cool, I forgot we have an African member now. Thanks for your input:)