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Rober10169
10-18-2012, 04:12 PM
I would really like to find out what snake that is as it is awesome, might need to get some.

-MARWOLAETH-
10-18-2012, 04:15 PM
It's a San Francisco garter snake (T.s .tetrataenia):)

Stefan-A
10-18-2012, 04:15 PM
Thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia.

guidofatherof5
10-18-2012, 04:20 PM
Federally protected in the U.S. Not sure what the Canadian policies/laws are with regards to T.s.tetrataenia.

Rober10169
10-18-2012, 04:48 PM
Yes, we can have them here. Need to find some breeders in Europe who would be willing to ship to Canada. Beautiful snake

snake man
10-18-2012, 04:51 PM
Really is a buety shame its illegal here.

guidofatherof5
10-18-2012, 04:54 PM
Yes, we can have them here. Need to find some breeders in Europe who would be willing to ship to Canada. Beautiful snake

Oh sure, rub it in!:D

chris-uk
10-18-2012, 04:59 PM
"Thamnophis" (aka Fons) breeds some beautiful examples. The Canadian price was mentioned in a recent thread - he may be willing to ship for 1500CAD... What the heck, for that price you can have my 2012 male and I'll hand deliver.

Stefan-A
10-18-2012, 05:02 PM
Really is a buety shame its illegal here.
Shame it's in need of protection.

Rober10169
10-18-2012, 05:02 PM
For that price would need to get several of them to make it worth while

SilasBannook
10-18-2012, 10:50 PM
May I suggest you check out the Thamnophis.sirtalis.infernalis. They are not protected and a number of US breeders are able to provide those. Those snakes look very similar with similar coloration but instead of solid stripes on the sides they have the spots similar to the T.s.concinnus. I just got my babies today and they are amazing. Do look them up.

EasternGirl
10-19-2012, 06:17 AM
Shame they are protected...shame that they need to be. I think many of us would have one...or two...or three...

chris-uk
10-19-2012, 07:30 AM
May I suggest you check out the Thamnophis.sirtalis.infernalis. They are not protected and a number of US breeders are able to provide those. Those snakes look very similar with similar coloration but instead of solid stripes on the sides they have the spots similar to the T.s.concinnus. I just got my babies today and they are amazing. Do look them up.


Shame they are protected...shame that they need to be. I think many of us would have one...or two...or three...

I've got to say, to look at I prefer my infernalis babies, but attitude-wise my tetra is happier to be held and seen in the open. Maybe that will shift as they get older.

RedSidedSPR
10-19-2012, 08:14 AM
Yeah I actually like the look of infernalis better too, honestly

EasternGirl
10-19-2012, 08:27 AM
Interesting...I thought that tetra were more aggressive than infernalis...I have heard that both can have attitude. Of course, I like snakes with attitude. Maybe Cee Cee is a tetra in disguise. :D

ConcinusMan
10-22-2012, 05:21 PM
Interesting...I thought that tetra were more aggressive than infernalis...I have heard that both can have attitude. Of course, I like snakes with attitude. Maybe Cee Cee is a tetra in disguise. :D

You can't just generalize a snake's attitude based on species/subspecies. It makes total sense that any garters from that general area of the CA coast, would develop similar behavior. Apparently it serves them well to do "viper impressions" or else they wouldn't do it. I don't recall ever encountering any species of CA garter snake that didn't give me an aggressive, "scary looking" display like that.