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ProXimuS
09-02-2012, 06:12 PM
I was just thinking, are there any ribbon morphs( Like any type of ribbon sp/ssp.)? Did a quick search and haven't seen anything. Are there even albino ribbons?
guidofatherof5
09-02-2012, 06:47 PM
Thamnophis proximus (Western Ribbon Snake)
T. p. alpinus (Chiapas Highland ribbon snake)
T. p. diabolicus (Aridland ribbon snake)
T. p. orarius (Gulf coast ribbon snake)
T. p. proximus (Western ribbon snake)
T. p. rubrilineatus (Redstripe ribbon snake)
T. p. rutiloris (Mexican ribbon snake)

Thamnophis sauritus (Eastern Ribbon Snake)
T. s. nitae (Bluestripe ribbon snake)
T. s. sackenii (Peninsula ribbon snake)
T. s. sauritus (Eastern ribbon snake)
T. s. septentrionalis (Northern ribbon snake)
Invisible Snake
09-02-2012, 06:55 PM
Also keep in mind that ribbon snakes are underrated so very few people work with them. I'm sure if they were more popular we would have seen more abberant morphs.
ProXimuS
09-02-2012, 06:59 PM
Think of an erythristic albino redstripe ribbon:eek: Maybe someday if(when!) I get a female for my boy, I can make the first ribbon morphs:cool:(Haha doubtful)
Stefan-A
09-02-2012, 07:14 PM
Think of an erythristic albino redstripe ribbon:eek:
That's disgusting.
ProXimuS
09-02-2012, 07:28 PM
That's disgusting.

Sounds cool to me. But apperantly things like that don't exist, so not to worry;)
thamneil
09-02-2012, 10:26 PM
I'm sure something or another has turned up. Never seen or heard of any morphs though.
BUSHSNAKE
09-03-2012, 08:53 AM
melanistic ones have been found and photographed
ConcinusMan
09-03-2012, 05:24 PM
I did not know that. But I have never before heard of any aberrants or "morphs" for ribbon snakes. If they exist, it's probably very rare.
guidofatherof5
09-10-2012, 06:56 PM
Think of an erythristic albino redstripe ribbon:eek: Maybe someday if(when!) I get a female for my boy, I can make the first ribbon morphs:cool:(Haha doubtful)

Emily you don't know how right you were.
Last night I got a call from my friend Steve Schmidt who had been doing some searching with regards to your above statement.
He found that in Aug. 13, 1959 an albino Thamnophis sauritus was found in Texas.
I would link to the article but apparently I copied the location address wrong. I will try to fix the problem and post it later.
Thanks for the info. Steve.
guidofatherof5
09-10-2012, 08:42 PM
.. ALBINISM IN THAMNOPHIS SAURITUS. -On August 13, 1958, an albino Ribbon
Snake, Thamnophis saur1itus proximus (Say), was col- lected by Robert Donnellen
in Waco, McLennon County, Texas. It meas- ured 42 cm.

T.sauritus was changed to T.proximus and in the Waco area according to Rossman range maps that would mean T. p. rubrilineatus (Redstripe ribbon snake) so it was probably a red striped albino ribbon snake.

Thank you Steve Schmidt for this info. and the time it took to find it. It's much appreciated.
ProXimuS
09-11-2012, 12:17 AM
:eek:That's amazing!:eek: Thanks Steve and Steve!

So is T. sauritus no longer existent...? Or is it just that the Redstripe used to be part of T. sauritus?
guidofatherof5
09-11-2012, 05:39 AM
:eek:That's amazing!:eek: Thanks Steve and Steve!

So is T. sauritus no longer existent...? Or is it just that the Redstripe used to be part of T. sauritus?


Here is current, as far as I know.

Thamnophis proximus (Western Ribbon Snake)
T. p. alpinus (Chiapas Highland ribbon snake)
T. p. diabolicus (Aridland ribbon snake)
T. p. orarius (Gulf coast ribbon snake)
T. p. proximus (Western ribbon snake)
T. p. rubrilineatus (Redstripe ribbon snake)
T. p. rutiloris (Mexican ribbon snake)


Thamnophis sauritus (Eastern Ribbon Snake)
T. s. nitae (Bluestripe ribbon snake)
T. s. sackenii (Peninsula ribbon snake)
T. s. sauritus (Eastern ribbon snake)
T. s. septentrionalis (Northern ribbon snake)