feeding question

[chris87]

hi i got told that i cannot feed my garter pinkies with black bellies, just wondering if this it true. i took a photo of one that looks to have a black belly to see if pinkies like this are ok to feed to my snake. thanx
here is the photo

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/Picture_0382.jpg

[drache]

that pic looks familiar
wasn't that in some other thread?
the dark belly indicates blood pooling in the rodent's belly, because cf cellular breakdown
I don't know for sure that this only happens when the rodent is defrosted and re-frozen
in and of itself it's not harmful
even if a rodent was defrosted and re-frozen, it's still okay
in my experience, if a rodent has been defrosted for too long before it was re-frozen, or re-frozen multiple times, it also goes through other colour changes, but since I've not had it happen a lot, my experience is limited, and I could be wrong
in any case
I have fed rodents looking like the one in the pic with no ill effect

[chris87]

ok thankx yh i put it on be4 but i put it on agen to see wot ppl will say about it coz it worries me to feed it this i just wont to no if it will be ok to give it to the my snake, if pinkies have black bellies like that one has, thankx

[Morph]

There was another thread posted just recently about the same thing and the general oppinion was that its fine to feed them with "black bellys"

[chris87]

ok mate thankx

[Stefan-A]

the dark belly indicates blood pooling in the rodent's belly, because cf cellular breakdown
Something similar to postmortem lividity?
Livor mortis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livor_mortis)

Aaanyway, they are ok to use.

[ssssnakeluvr]

after feeding mine yesterday I noticed something...you can see the liver right thru the skin..I think that's what you are seeing....if the whole pink is discolored, junk it, but otherwise it is fine.

[adamanteus]

Stefan, you know some weird stuff!

[KITKAT]

the dark belly indicates blood pooling in the rodent's belly, because of cellular breakdown
I don't know for sure that this only happens when the rodent is defrosted and re-frozen


AAARRRGGGHHH!:eek: That makes TOTAL sense! I never thought of it. A pinkie that was fresh frozen and then thawed would thaw first in the belly and the blood (serous fluid) from the thawing would collect in the belly.

Thanks! Wish I'd known that last time I discarded some thawed/refrozen pinks!

[drache]

I think that if you're going to try to re-offer a thawed rodent within the next 36 hours or so, it makes more sense to just fridge it, and to toss it if it's not taken then
also I think it's wise to toss them after a second thaw

[adamanteus]

I only freeze once. If they don't get eaten I fridge them, if they don't get eaten second time around, I throw them out.

[chris87]

ok thank you all

[Thamnophis]

I only freeze once. If they don't get eaten I fridge them, if they don't get eaten second time around, I throw them out.

That´s exactly what I do.

[Stefan-A]

Stefan, you know some weird stuff!
Yes I do. :D Yet, there is still so much weird stuff I don't know. I think it was my sister (she's a nurse) that told me about postmortem lividity.

[drache]

most of the really interesting stuff is a bit weird, isn't it?

[Stefan-A]

I'd say so. At least in the eyes of those that don't find it interesting. :)