100% het albino Marcianus Litter 29/7/12

[scorpion0151]

I was quite happily finishing my dinner when I saw some movement out of the corner of my eye, and to my surprise I saw a little squiggly cruising around my Marcianus birthing box :) She'd been really holding onto this litter and I thought she'd never drop them lol she had 31 in total but 6 of those were still born, 3 had "bug eyes" but they're staying with me so I can be sure they're never bred from and the rest were all fine and strong. Most of them shed straight away and as I had some spare salmon the next day I tried them with some but only one had some.

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[snake man]

Congrats nice looking litter

[Invisible Snake]

Congrats!!

[EasternGirl]

Lots of cute babies! Congrats! I have a female eastern that likes to hold on to her litters and eventually starts to reabsorb them...leading to stillborns. She managed to have 3 live last time. I will not breed her again though. It always worries me that she will hold on too long and become septic. Glad your girl finally gave birth! Keep us posted on how she is doing.

[mikem]

Congrats! That's a lot of babies :)

[Dan72]

How long a time frame did she hold them? I have a radix that dropped 1 last Thursday night and now here we are a week later and no other litter mates. She is really starting to worry me. Congrats on your litter, great looking group. Love the look of the albinos. Hope these guys produce some one day.

[Invisible Snake]

Hey if you can post a pic of 1 of the babies with the "bug eyes", I've heard of the term but I dont think I've ever seen it.

[guidofatherof5]

Exophthalmus ?

[chris-uk]

Congratulations. Checkereds are so underrated.

[johnc79@hotmail.com]

Congrats Peter . Never tire of seeing these photos. Like the idea of a birthing box, saves hunting through a four foot viv for a load of tiny scrubs!

[thamneil]

Congrats on the litter! Mine recently had a small litter as well. They really are an awesome species!

[scorpion0151]

How long a time frame did she hold them? I have a radix that dropped 1 last Thursday night and now here we are a week later and no other litter mates. She is really starting to worry me. Congrats on your litter, great looking group. Love the look of the albinos. Hope these guys produce some one day.
We put the albino male to her at the end of Feb and she gave birth 4 months later.


Hey if you can post a pic of 1 of the babies with the "bug eyes", I've heard of the term but I dont think I've ever seen it.
I'll post one in a tic :)


Congrats Peter . Never tire of seeing these photos. Like the idea of a birthing box, saves hunting through a four foot viv for a load of tiny scrubs!

it's also a damn site easier cleaning everyting up lol

[scorpion0151]

Bug eyes

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My girlfriend loves them she thinks they're really cute.

[guidofatherof5]

Poor little scrubs.

[scorpion0151]

it doesn't seem to bother them, well it hasn't yet. They can see fine and they shed fine this time, only thing is I think the eyes make the head a bit heavy so they can just flop if they try going up the side of their enclosure.

[Invisible Snake]

Hey thanks for posting the pics! Is there some sort of bacterial fluid in the eyes that makes them big like that? Is there any sort of treatment for it? Will they lose their eyes or vision as they get older?

[chris-uk]

Interesting pics of the bug eyes.
Also interesting that they shed with no problems. Has anyone kept bug eyed snakes to adulthood? At a guess I'd imagine they're more likely to damage their eyes as they are bigger and more exposed. I'd also suspect there could be a brain defect too because the optic nerve and retina is effectively an extension of the brain. Although none of that in itself is necessarily a problem.

[zooplan]

Congratulation for the litter.
I´ve never seen such "bug eyes" by birth.
Really scaring pictures ( I agree to Steve)!

[johnc79@hotmail.com]

I've never seen anything like that before. Poor things.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Poor things:(.Could the eyes be drained of the fluid?

[scorpion0151]

I'm not too sure why it's happened, both parents are perfect and completely unrelated so it was a real surprise, I've seen the bug eye trait in leucistic rat snakes but never in garters. I'd take them to my local rep vet but he's only in once a week and doesn't really know much on garters, last time I saw him I was teaching him info on the speices.

[ProXimuS]

Congrats on the litter!

Those poor "bug eye" guys!:( I've seen one with that deformity on google before, while looking at garters, can't remember what I typed in now, and can't find the pic, but I remember it was a baby too. It looks like it could be painful, or at least uncomfortable. Glad they seem to be doing well.

[Invisible Snake]

Hey any updates on this litter? How are the bug eyed ones doing?

[scorpion0151]

Hey any updates on this litter? How are the bug eyed ones doing?

sorry not been on in a long time, a few have started to eat and some are really greedy pigs and demolish as much food as you put in :) The "bug eyed" ones are still going strong but still haven't eaten yet.

[Greg'sGarters]

Congratulations!!! Those babies look VERY fresh born. Did you see them being born? They look very healthy and beautiful!! Good luck!!!

[snake man]

Hope you get those little guys eating soon.