Vagrans Babies!!!

[FireRedGarters]

Well my female(Tack) gave birth to 28 babies a week ago i let 18 go and kept 10 i just got them to eat rosy red minows and so far they all sem to be healthy

But i have a few questions
1 how fast do babies grow
2are the fish im feeding them safe
3 how would i go about selling some of them

[Stefan-A]

1 how fast do babies grow
Depends on how well they eat.


2are the fish im feeding them safe
If I remember correctly, no.


3 how would i go about selling some of them
Get them eating consistently, post an ad somewhere, set the price high enough that people won't be tempted to buy them as feeders and don't sell to just anybody.

And since these are vagrans, I recommend solo housing.

[Invisible Snake]

Well said Stefan!

And to my knowledge rosy red minnows contain thiaminase. I only use them if I can't get guppies and only to get problem feeders eating and then I switch them to silversides.

[FireRedGarters]

Why cant vagrans be caged together?

[guidofatherof5]

Cannibalistic behaviors/tendencies.

[FireRedGarters]

Oh ive housed my male and female vagrans in the same enclouser for a couple years should i move them into different cages

[guidofatherof5]

Not sure what to tell you. Don't know much about that species.
I'm sure some "keeper of the wanderings" will give you some advice.

[Steveo]

Stories of their cannibalism seems to be few and far between, but I play it safe anyway.

Then again, my Sinaloan milk snakes are also said to be occasionally cannibalistic, but they're the same size and I keep them together without issue.

Full disclosure: I'm not as attached to the milk snakes because they hide all day and refuse to let me hold them :(

[Mommy2many]

Congratulations! We need pictures, you know :)

[Stefan-A]

Stories of their cannibalism seems to be few and far between,
Not really, considering how few people keep vagrans and how many of them solo house them.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/snakes2012/056.jpg

[Light of Dae]

Would they be so Cannibalistic if always fed lots n no shortage of food? Just separate them for feeding?
I would think they'd rather have a nice thawed mouse n worms rather than their roommate....

But I've never kept a wandering so ... what do I know eh?

[Stefan-A]

Would they be so Cannibalistic if always fed lots n no shortage of food? Just separate them for feeding?
I would think they'd rather have a nice thawed mouse n worms rather than their roommate....

But I've never kept a wandering so ... what do I know eh?
The two times I had attempts here, there had been no shortage of food.

[i_heart_sneakie_snakes]

Congrats on the babies. Can't wait to see some pictures :D

I have two Wanderings and I keep each in their own cage. Better safe than sorry!!

[thamneil]

I was at Reptile Gardens while visiting South Dakota. Found it interesting that they housed vagrans and radix together. Both snakes were the same size and I was told that they never caused a problem.

[norcalj]

I think that the entire Elegans group may have a tendency towards cannibalism. Several years ago, I had a coast garter that attempted to eat one of my bluestripe garters. Luckily, I noticed the commotion in the terrarium, and was able to intervene. He already had the other snake's head down his throat.

[Stefan-A]

I was at Reptile Gardens while visiting South Dakota. Found it interesting that they housed vagrans and radix together. Both snakes were the same size and I was told that they never caused a problem.
The parents of my oldest male were kept together for a long time, without a problem. Some time after giving birth, the mother ate the father.

I kept two vagrans together with a tetrataenia without problems for a year. Then, one day, the smaller of the vagrans tried to kill the 5-10 cm longer tetrataenia.