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xStatic
07-16-2012, 07:49 PM
I went fishing today and didn't catch that many fish, but I did see three snakes and managed to catch the third one. I'm pretty sure it was a DeKay's Brown Snake and it was very pretty and friendly. I wanted to take it home with me so bad but I let him go back into his little drift wood hide out. I caught him right at the water's edge. I had no idea DeKay's liked the water...

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/IMG_0911_2_.JPG

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/IMG_0910_1_.JPG

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/IMG_0914_1_.JPG

Earlier I caught a glimpse of a much larger garter. It was dark brown with at least one dark orange/yellow stripe down the back. I'm in western Montana, any ideas what species it might have been? I saw a third snake in the same wood pile as the one I caught. It was just a dark blur but I'm assuming it's was probably another DeKay's. It really could have been anything though.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/IMG_0915_1_.JPG

And since I just have to include it, here's the GIANT Brook Trout I caught today ;)

guidofatherof5
07-16-2012, 08:10 PM
I don't think that's a S.dekayi. I don't think they range in Montana.

Too distinctive of a pattern(blotches) and the head is too large.

Terrestrial Gartersnake - Thamnophis elegans
Common Gartersnake - Thamnophis sirtalis
Both range on the western part of Montana

xStatic
07-16-2012, 08:18 PM
Okay had no idea they weren't here! I just assumed because it was all brown without any striping or anything. He was cute though.

After A reevaluation I'm guessing all three snakes were Thamnophis sirtalis (:

guidofatherof5
07-16-2012, 08:23 PM
Okay had no idea they weren't here! I just assumed because it was all brown without any striping or anything. He was cute though

I by no means am a dekayi expert. Hopefully Wayne will comment to the thread.

infernalis
07-16-2012, 08:57 PM
The snake is too heavy bodied and it looks more like an Elegans to me.

Too big to be a Storeria.

xStatic
07-16-2012, 09:19 PM
The snake is too heavy bodied and it looks more like an Elegans to me.

Too big to be a Storeria.

I think it's about time I stop trying to ID snakes then xD

guidofatherof5
07-16-2012, 09:21 PM
I think it's about time I stop trying to ID snakes then xD

You just keep trying. Practice, practice, practice.;)

ssssnakeluvr
07-16-2012, 09:24 PM
nope, not dekayi, not out west.... its a wandering garter, thamnophis elegans vagrans....

xStatic
07-16-2012, 09:45 PM
It's weird how variable garters can be. Individuals of the same species can look like totally different snakes even when they come from a relatively similar area

i_heart_sneakie_snakes
07-17-2012, 12:48 AM
I think that little snake is super cute. I think I'd have had a new pet if I'd have caught it ;)